Kunark eq is the best version of the game

[Roth]

Every new server starts with just classic, or eventually wants to go to velious, or pop, or whatever the server's end goal is. I think kunark eq is the ONLY really good version of the game. Here's why:

-blue had the highest population when only kunark was out
-kunark balanced a lot of classes, added needed spells, gave some qol changes that made the game not garbage
-actually gave outdoor zones past level 20 to group in, an entire continent with fun and challenging dungeons. this fixes over population and actually gives you things to do as well as a lot more raid content
-level 50-60
-iksar

So why not velious? People have hyped up velious since forever since it has the most depth for end game raid content. But for the normal or casual player, it's just not that interesting. Velk's is one of the main dungeons that people can actually use to level without jumping through a bunch of hoops. Overall, a lot of the content is gated or similar in feel(mostly ice or snow). I just think if you look at the content in kunark, it just feels better and more fun to play in generally. The zones are more unique and feel more nostalgic overall.

So how does this effect green? I think it was a huge missed opportunity to launch without kunark in the game. Kunark fixed a lot of issues to make the game more playable and add depth. Classic eq without kunark honestly just sucks as a game and the expansion did a lot to fix it.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Green will be under 1000 daily population when Kunark releases. I doubt it'll break 2k in either Kunark or Velious.

[Roth]

Green will be under 1000 daily population when Kunark releases. I doubt it'll break 2k in either Kunark or Velious.

I don't see how that's relevant to the post.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

I don't see how that's relevant to the post.

He asked how it will effect Green. The server population will be MUCH lower by then and, ironically, will make the game world feel very empty. As opposed to now where everything is extremely overcrowded.

[Roth]

He asked how it will effect Green. The server population will be MUCH lower by then and, ironically, will make the game world feel very empty. As opposed to now where everything is extremely overcrowded.

So first off I'm the op, and I didn't ask how it would effect green. I stated that it was a missed opportunity to not launch with kunark. I was using the question as a way to present my next point.

[E-Queue]

Green will be under 1000 daily population when Kunark releases. I doubt it'll break 2k in either Kunark or Velious.

Citation needed.

[Raclen]

So first off I'm the op, and I didn't ask how it would effect green. I stated that it was a missed opportunity to not launch with kunark. I was using the question as a way to present my next point.

This staff has been working towards a classic to velious server for 10+ years. This was the plan 10 years ago. They would never change that because one expansion is better than the other. Just skipping stuff or leaving other stuff out so you can jump to the best part isn't always best. The best expansion is also subjective.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

This staff has been working towards a classic to velious server for 10+ years. This was the plan 10 years ago. They would never change that because one expansion is better than the other. Just skipping stuff or leaving other stuff out so you can jump to the best part isn't always best. The best expansion is also subjective.

Yet thye launched Green with NUMEROUS game-changlingly unclassic features! lol!

[Lordgordon]

The op clearly stated he thinks humans are superior to vahshir and that racial exp is a joke

[Pilgrimzero]

Velious is my fave expansion. I really wish I could make a Coldain Dwarf character.

[Tyronius of Midnight]

That's like, your opinion man.

[Keza]

I don't see how that's relevant to the post.

It's not, he's just posting the same thing in every thread so that everyone knows how smart he is.

Also yes ofc Kunark is the best version of EQ. Iksars.

[Cen]

I think Kunark is probably the best era too. There's a lot of lore stuff that makes velious really interesting, but the content wasn't as amazing as Kunark's content.

[Izmael]

I love Velious but have to admit it has one flaw: end game loot is WAY overpowered.

[Teppler]

I've seen so much hate for Kunark on this forum but honestly I agree. I think Kunark in particular is pinnacle EQ.

[douglas1999]

Love all the fortune tellers and mind readers itt

[douglas1999]

Velious has tons of awesome content from like lvl 35 on. If you can't get to level 35 in 2 years I dunno man.

[Taryth]

I think Kunark feels like an evolution of Classic, which makes it more nostalgic for me. Velious feels very distinct from the rest of the world, which is nice for variety, but it isn't as fun for me.

I imagine people who raid a lot see it differently, as that's where the majority of the interesting Velious content is. I got to experience that progressing on PEQ long ago, but I haven't had the desire to do it here. I like grouping and leveling more.

[Vexenu]

Cut Velious in half. Limit it to IC, EW, GD, Thurg and Kael. That removes all the OP gear and makes Velious more of a leveling and grouping expansion with just a handful of new raid targets.

[Roth]

Cut Velious in half. Limit it to IC, EW, GD, Thurg and Kael. That removes all the OP gear and makes Velious more of a leveling and grouping expansion with just a handful of new raid targets.

I'm not really anti velious specifically, I just think green server should have/needed to launch with kunark in the game with no patches/progression from that point. I think that would have given us the best launch experience possible and best server long term.

[Wenai]

+1

Kunark era is by far the best. Velious is pretty terrible and EQ lost part of its charm in Velious.

[greatdane]

One of the most important things about Kunark is that a lot of the best gear is tradeable. While there's some pretty great stuff in VP, it's mostly weapons, and epics are worthwhile alternatives to those. Once you get to Velious, there's a gigantic divide between raiders and the rest as the gear from raid content becomes so overpowered. Since the game simply doesn't have enough raid content for everyone who would like to raid, that creates a highly toxic situation where a lot of players are prevented from "competing" (insofar as you can compete on a PvE server) simply because the content isn't available to them, and there's nothing they can do about it because there's a hard limit on the amount of raiding that a server can accomodate. In Kunark, you don't quite have the same issue as anyone with enough money can buy almost everything.

In some ways, Velious was the worst thing that ever happened to Everquest, and to MMORPGs in general. It turned the game from "the world belongs to you" to "you're part of the 5% that raids or you're literally worthless." The gear from Velious raid content is just too far ahead. It especially destroyed the PvP scene, but it's also a blemish on PvE. It really ruined the game on a fundamental level. Don't know what they were thinking. Non-raiders in Velious have no reason to exist at all.

[Jibartik]

Mechanically I totally agree, although I dislike the artwork in Kunark quite a bit compared to Classic/Velious (Those snow dwarves are an abomination though)

EQ lost part of its charm in Velious.

I both 100% agree with you and, only very slightly disagree, in that I think the art steered a bit more in line with what I thought classic artwork should look like, although those dwarfs = no. :o

[wildstar]

I wouldn't say Kunark is my favorite expansion of EQ but I like it more than Velious.

[Jibartik]

I would have preferred existing in the timeline where kunark was instead:

- only new zones built into the original continents, focusing on dungeons & raid bosses (both indoor and out) The frigid planes, Winters Deep, The Nest, The Northlands, Unkempt woods, jaggadpine, Life fire River, The Serpant and the Serpants Spine to name a few locations!
- level 55 max
- focus on expanding the quests and making many more of them, including epics
- New type of armor appearance
- actual froglok city and playable race that looks like froglocks. (sorry lizards :o)