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chaos1990
10-30-2019, 03:52 PM
Every 6 man camp within my level range (Im a druid, i checked them all) is taken by a duo of 1 mage + 1 other class or swapped between infinite guild mates. Noone answers tells for the most mundane of questions leading to wonderful adventures ending in 5+ all anons after a 20 minute trip and movement patterns appearing to be a box.

Im at an unfortunate level range where root rotting or quadding isnt possible just yet.

magusfire24
10-30-2019, 03:54 PM
Hopefully this will slow down as some of the neckbeards out level stuff and either move on or get bored and leave.

Cen
10-30-2019, 03:57 PM
I was actually very hopeful it wouldn't be tremendously toxic. Now to be fair, it is more toxic then I expected, but its not the worst thing ive seen ;P haha

Ive run into nice people, but a very large amount of angry people who at the drop of a hat or any mistake being made drops group after ranting, or argues with every other person or group nearby pulling a mob anywhere in view, etc. Its crazy how crazy people get

greatdane
10-30-2019, 04:09 PM
This community has always been a minefield of psychological disorders. The prospect of a fresh server that can be "won" is just amplifying the unhinged nature of the playerbase more than usual.

Vizax_Xaziv
10-30-2019, 04:11 PM
Hopefully this will slow down as some of the neckbeards out level stuff and either move on or get bored and leave.

LMAO. What's ACTUALLY gonna happen is they will be perma-camping every droppable item in the game.

Jimjam
10-30-2019, 04:12 PM
You think it is bad 1 Week in?

Imagine what these hardcores will be like in 1 month when they are level 50 and there is literally ZERO content for them to do for the next 12 months.

Vizax_Xaziv
10-30-2019, 04:15 PM
You think it is bad 1 Week in?

Imagine what these hardcores will be like in 1 month when they are level 50 and there is literally ZERO content for them to do for the next 12 months.

They're all enchanters - theyll be solo-camping every droppable item in the game whilst Mages cant even summon a pet that isnt 20 levels under him :)

Baler
10-30-2019, 04:17 PM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.

Jimjam
10-30-2019, 04:18 PM
They're all enchanters - theyll be solo-camping every droppable item in the game

It's a fine line between providing a service to source items and holding items hostage.

Magerin
10-30-2019, 04:18 PM
Dude, boxing on this server is huge right now. Turn on OBS, take down names, dates, locations, and report them. TONS of boxers are on this server right now. Its really sick.

bigjeff100
10-30-2019, 04:22 PM
Yup, no matter how many servers you make. No matter the rule set, classic or not. There is always going to be that breed of human that goes overboard.. But it takes minimal imagination to wonder what their life is like.... Seriously, let that put a smile back on your face, and a surge of joy back into the game for you.

Login, enjoy your time, and the healthy people you meet. Log out, and continue on with your life :)

chaos1990
10-30-2019, 04:23 PM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.

Check my join date I remember. People were assholes but they didnt have camp denial and handoffs down to a science. I can handle an asshole in group chat or ooc. I can't do anything about being locked out of my experience bar. Green 2 needs to happen I think

Sonark
10-30-2019, 04:25 PM
This community has always been a minefield of psychological disorders. The prospect of a fresh server that can be "won" is just amplifying the unhinged nature of the playerbase more than usual.Possibly the most accurate post I've ever seen on these forums.

AegnorP99
10-30-2019, 04:26 PM
Man, if all I did was read the forums, I'd think Green was a total cesspool. Luckily, having actually played it, this has not been my experience at all. With very few exceptions, the people I've met have been kind and helpful and willing to group with just about anyone.

Is it different on the non-Qeynos side of the world or am I just oblivious to this toxicity?

chaos1990
10-30-2019, 04:28 PM
Man, if all I did was read the forums, I'd think Green was a total cesspool. Luckily, having actually played it, this has not been my experience at all. With very few exceptions, the people I've met have been kind and helpful and willing to group with just about anyone.

Is it different on the non-Qeynos side of the world or am I just oblivious to this toxicity?

Under level 20 the server is quite pleasant. I have nothing but good things to say until I dinged 20. Classic isn't very big at all which leads to the top end being all but cut off from anyone who doesnt roll in with a premade 2 or 6 which they all do. I'm not risking my account to contest the mobs because GM decisions on what constitutes a camp changes like the weather

bigjeff100
10-30-2019, 04:29 PM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.

"Those who cannot learn from history, are doomed to repeat it"

Glarkus31
10-30-2019, 04:34 PM
I have had nothing but pleasant experiences with people. Granted, my characters are still low level, but it has been fun.

Plenty of nice folks out there.

Tecmos Deception
10-30-2019, 04:37 PM
I have had nothing but pleasant experiences with people. Granted, my characters are still low level, but it has been fun.

Plenty of nice folks out there.

Even the few confrontations I've had ingame settled up well in the end. Im sure there's some issues around, but I think sometimes the people finding them are the people who TRY to find them.

Palemoon
10-30-2019, 05:29 PM
Every 6 man camp within my level range (Im a druid, i checked them all) is taken by a duo of 1 mage + 1 other class or swapped between infinite guild mates. Noone answers tells for the most mundane of questions leading to wonderful adventures ending in 5+ all anons after a 20 minute trip and movement patterns appearing to be a box.

Im at an unfortunate level range where root rotting or quadding isnt possible just yet.

This is why i always found red servers to be more classic in the community sense. There is no blank ignoring others on red because thats how you get attacked. I know it sounds like a paradox, but people were actually more considerate and polite on red.

WaffleztheAndal
10-30-2019, 05:34 PM
This is why i always found red servers to be more classic in the community sense. There is no blank ignoring others on red because thats how you get attacked. I know it sounds like a paradox, but people were actually more considerate and polite on red.

The forums certainly didn't show it. By far the most toxic group of people I've ever seen in a community lmao.

Palemoon
10-30-2019, 05:42 PM
The forums certainly didn't show it. By far the most toxic group of people I've ever seen in a community lmao.

Thats the forums, it was always dominated by a dozen toxic assholes. Another reason why red should of never gotten global /ooc (it let them continue their forum shitalking in game) and should link character accounts to forum accounts and chain ban both for respective infractions.

Anyways, ignore those forums. If a new red server opens you will see its a different experience in game.

Lamil
10-30-2019, 05:44 PM
I don't think people were ready for every mob to be contested and it being super slow to lvl. It causes people to get all toxic and angry in game. I will say just do a /who all lfg and your lvl range and create a group. Most of these people just sit with LFG up but aren't proactive at all for making one.

Zadrian
10-30-2019, 05:50 PM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.

Can confirm that time frame on p99 was true toxicity

Sykem
10-30-2019, 05:51 PM
Agreed ^^

FatherSioux
10-30-2019, 05:55 PM
In the Vale I have encounted almost no toxicity issues, sure some sore egos after losing a Ruined Wolf pelt or Spiderling Silks. Nothing a little bind wound can't heal. This is EQ folks, toughen up and make your own fun.

Ivory
10-30-2019, 06:14 PM
https://imgur.com/S17vtGW.jpg

kotton05
10-30-2019, 06:16 PM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.

I was there for the madness

Lammy
10-30-2019, 06:25 PM
The server is fun so far and the hard work is appreciated. Also merkk is so cool.

zaneosak
10-30-2019, 06:47 PM
Problem is that 6 man groups are really bad XP at lower levels, really the entire game until Kunark comes around. Duo / Trio is so much more efficient. I understand the frustration though as a classic cleric player who always had to group.

aaezil
10-30-2019, 06:48 PM
Sorry you didnt get goblin camp

ChairmanMauzer
10-30-2019, 06:49 PM
You're not kidding. You should see the way some people treat us Daniels sometimes. You'd think we kicked their dogs or something. So salty.

https://i.imgur.com/6sCsOuA.png
https://i.imgur.com/u2JOyWv.png

Jibartik
10-30-2019, 06:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iHyBw2o.png

fortior
10-30-2019, 06:56 PM
ugly words from an ugly face

FungusTrooper
10-30-2019, 07:04 PM
this prejudice against daniels has to end

Jibartik
10-30-2019, 07:12 PM
Watching players play everquest is like watching drivers try to get through a roundabout.

Niedar
10-30-2019, 07:14 PM
no it doesnt

Toxic

Lulz Sect
10-30-2019, 08:11 PM
ugly words from an ugly face

Toxic

https://i.imgur.com/zvOWL03.gif

clacbec
10-30-2019, 08:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zvOWL03.gif

that one of a famous

ChairmanMauzer
10-30-2019, 08:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zvOWL03.gif

So good I had to signature it. (Badly.)

gundumbwing
10-30-2019, 10:32 PM
You're not kidding. You should see the way some people treat us Daniels sometimes. You'd think we kicked their dogs or something. So salty.

https://i.imgur.com/6sCsOuA.png
https://i.imgur.com/u2JOyWv.png

Hrm. I think i might just agree with that upset manchild.

The only similarity is the mustache. Hairstyles And facial hair do not make someone's face look like someone else. It only makes their facial hair look like someone else's facial hair.

AND you are saying he looks like Daniel, which it 1000% does not, because Daniel Day Lewis doesn't walk around in his William Poole costume from Gangs of New York.

Cease and desist your harrasment of 20/20 individuals you blind heathen!

FungusTrooper
10-30-2019, 10:36 PM
as i said previously
so sad to see one so misinformed

Fammaden
10-30-2019, 10:53 PM
Much of the community is dogshit right now. Between greed, competition over camps and spawns, and level/achievement racing, everything good about old EQ communities has been thrown out the window and the bad stuff has been amplified tenfold. Everyone's just trolling and memeing in the thread, but if OP's point continues to hold true you'll start to hear about it more and more.

All the forum troll brigade is painting blue as the toxic place, but it used to be any new player posting here or on reddit would rave about how great the community on blue was to them. I realize the raid scene was pretty diseased in a lot of ways, and there was a lot of exploiting and cheating in blue's past...but the state the server had settled into felt far more like an old school EQ server during Velious than whatever's going on with green right now resembles a classic server dynamic. The dude comparing it to live Velious in some thread today was dead on, I played then too. Yes blue's had far higher levels of twinking and alts and raid bot toons, but the feel of the server's pulse was still quite accurate.

This feels like the beautiful thing that was P99 has been turned into just another progression server. Maybe as some player attrition happens this could turn around, but I'd expect that to be three months at least or as much as the seven when the legacy items are gone. I guess things also might get sorted more once the playerbase settles into a farm routine in the 40+ scene and staff starts to ban people for boxing, training, ks'ing etc. Right now though there probably isn't enough coverage to push out the negative elements through bannings and discipline.

Meiva
10-30-2019, 10:56 PM
This community has always been a minefield of psychological disorders. The prospect of a fresh server that can be "won" is just amplifying the unhinged nature of the playerbase more than usual.

Most of us were quarantined on Red for a while. Then one extra chromosome loon makes an anti semitic remark. The top guild is flipped upside down and shook. Then the mass exodus that felt as though we went from 500 to 20 players over night. Red never recovered.

I've never preached for a fresh pvp server, but it makes more sense now than ever. It may relieve Green of a few hundred ultra nerds that can't afford our medication.

Fammaden
10-30-2019, 10:59 PM
I've never preached for a fresh pvp server, but it makes more sense now than ever. It may relieve Green of a few hundred ultra nerds that can't afford our medication.

This too. There are so many red refugees on green, not that I've had a specific problem with them. As much as I'm sick of the red people's posts begging for a new server, if they merged red to blue right now and just reset red as a classic era green-timeline teams PVP server (or whatever ruleset) that would go a LONG way to easing green's sheer numbers at least.

Giovanni
10-30-2019, 11:43 PM
Dude, boxing on this server is huge right now. Turn on OBS, take down names, dates, locations, and report them. TONS of boxers are on this server right now. Its really sick.

https://i.imgur.com/BDFXa0C.jpg

Wilbus
10-31-2019, 12:14 AM
This server is very toxic. I sat at a camp for two hours waiting on "list" even dropping heals sometimes just to have two of the parties friends jump in ahead of me.

And yes I know they jumped line because the guy with the list told me the 4 names ahead of me, none of which are the two that joined.

I would just like to add, since the only way to fix the community is to name and shame. The issue was with Trogdar <Auld Lang Syne> as he was the one to /t me when I asked to join list and he said sure I would be 5th after 4 others. Once they added the first not on the list I was given I asked "Guys not doing list then?" which he said it was someone else who said that person was replacing them, he then added another member from his guild to group.

Widan
10-31-2019, 12:18 AM
No one is obligated to group with rando's over their friends sorry pal

Wilbus
10-31-2019, 12:37 AM
No one is obligated to group with rando's over their friends sorry pal

You are right they are not but your statement is part of the reason this server is toxic. If you want to add friends to a group don't start a list publicly and let people waste their time thinking they will get a group.

gundumbwing
10-31-2019, 12:56 AM
as i said previously
so sad to see one so misinformed

This could be very accurate considering I've only learned of this potential atrocity via the forums and a single image.

I would honestly appreciate you informing me of what's what and curing my likely ignorance. You may continue with said knowledge!

FungusTrooper
10-31-2019, 01:17 AM
This could be very accurate considering I've only learned of this potential atrocity via the forums and a single image.

I would honestly appreciate you informing me of what's what and curing my likely ignorance. You may continue with said knowledge!

it looks like daniel

gundumbwing
10-31-2019, 01:41 AM
it looks like daniel

I gave you the benefit of doubt, my tiny friend. But you failed me. According to your mustache based logic, this is also Daniel.

http://imgur.com/a/U7JxQiB

You and your ilk may now begin the schism over which Daniel to worship.

FungusTrooper
10-31-2019, 02:05 AM
I gave you the benefit of doubt, my tiny friend. But you failed me. According to your mustache based logic, this is also Daniel.

http://imgur.com/a/U7JxQiB

You and your ilk may now begin the schism over which Daniel to worship.

literally the same face

Ratchet51
10-31-2019, 02:13 AM
This server is very toxic. I sat at a camp for two hours waiting on "list" even dropping heals sometimes just to have two of the parties friends jump in ahead of me.

And yes I know they jumped line because the guy with the list told me the 4 names ahead of me, none of which are the two that joined.

I would just like to add, since the only way to fix the community is to name and shame. The issue was with Trogdar <Auld Lang Syne> as he was the one to /t me when I asked to join list and he said sure I would be 5th after 4 others. Once they added the first not on the list I was given I asked "Guys not doing list then?" which he said it was someone else who said that person was replacing them, he then added another member from his guild to group.

Trogdar <ALS> seems to be a very cancerous character on p99. I have no idea how he's been guilded for this long, and how they deal with his abhorrent behavior. I say cancel that loser.

gundumbwing
10-31-2019, 02:22 AM
literally the same face

I agree the haircut and facial hair is similar, as I stated (more so the mustache than the hair, which any sweaty dark haired individual with hair a similar length can mimic after wearing a hat for 30 minutes).

However this is what Daniel looks like.

http://imgur.com/a/o4kF9Fq

As I suspected, this is a case of the semi blind seeing familiar shapes (mustaches) and applying it to any canvas they "see" fit!

Wilbus
10-31-2019, 02:33 AM
Trogdar <ALS> seems to be a very cancerous character on p99. I have no idea how he's been guilded for this long, and how they deal with his abhorrent behavior. I say cancel that loser.

I am "happy" to hear I am not the only one to have had an issue with him then. I did let an Officer in his guild know, who knows what good it will do

Cen
10-31-2019, 02:35 AM
I agree the haircut and facial hair is similar, as I stated (more so the mustache than the hair, which any sweaty dark haired individual with hair a similar length can mimic after wearing a hat for 30 minutes).

However this is what Daniel looks like.

http://imgur.com/a/o4kF9Fq

As I suspected, this is a case of the semi blind seeing familiar shapes (mustaches) and applying it to any canvas they "see" fit!

You haven't made your point until you shave the halfling too.

FungusTrooper
10-31-2019, 02:35 AM
However this is what Daniel looks like.
http://imgur.com/a/o4kF9Fq

are you saying the character an actor plays is their own physical being and is not actually the actor anymore

because i got very sad news for you

gundumbwing
10-31-2019, 02:57 AM
are you saying the character an actor plays is their own physical being and is not actually the actor anymore

because i got very sad news for you

This is a weird response. But ill answer with a stern negative, I'm not saying that at all!

The actual actor and the character he is playing are woefully different. That's why it makes no sense to claim some large footed half-human looks like Daniel Day Lewis in a game when it doesn't at all, but does indeed share a single similar facial hair feature from a role said actor dressed up and styled to purposely mimic his role as a character he isn't in real life, even though it looks nothing like him outside of the movie.

Based on your recent logic I could post a pic of every single character Daniel has ever been in and claim they all look like your halflings face, because it's Daniel. Sound silly? Sure does!

Tenlaar
10-31-2019, 02:58 AM
Trogdar <ALS> seems to be a very cancerous character on p99. I have no idea how he's been guilded for this long, and how they deal with his abhorrent behavior. I say cancel that loser.

It is hilarious to see you saying this because you are such a wretched person that you personally lessened my enjoyment of being in The Second Sons. Their prolonged acceptance of your childish edgelord routine actually made me skip events that I knew you were attending on more than one occasion.

gundumbwing
10-31-2019, 02:59 AM
You haven't made your point until you shave the halfling too.

This is excellent! I'll consult the Oracle's of Photoshop to see what can be done.

Vormotus
10-31-2019, 03:01 AM
https://imgur.com/S17vtGW.jpg

This hit me hard

Keza
10-31-2019, 03:08 AM
How is someone holding a camp toxic? It would be great if there was a checkable list for camps and you couldn't pass them on to whoever you want, but it's hardly toxic. People need to stop using this word. Toxicity is being prejudice and telling someone to kill themselves, not playing the game a way you dislike.

I'll give you an example. Play any Battlefield game and you'll find that half of your team will spend the majority of the game camping in tanks, waiting for vehicles to spawn or sitting a mile away on top of a skyscraper sniping all game. This is bad design, resulting in people playing the game in an unintended way, but it's not toxic. It's just people having fun however they want to have fun. Yes, them sitting on top of a building with a sniper all match long sucks for everyone else, but they aren't toxic. It's just bad design.

I'm also disbelieving that every "6 man camp" (that's totally made up btw) is permanently duo'd. The server may be saturated but that's obviously a lie. Even if it was you can solo to 24 as a druid and the exp isn't even that bad. I've done it. I don't know about them not responding to you. You say none of them ever respond, which is another suspicious claim, but if you're insisting that they need to invite you and saying they are toxic I would bet they all put you on ignore, especially if they are all guilded.

Ratchet51
10-31-2019, 03:32 AM
It is hilarious to see you saying this because you are such a wretched person that you personally lessened my enjoyment of being in The Second Sons. Their prolonged acceptance of your childish edgelord routine actually made me skip events that I knew you were attending on more than one occasion.

I thought we were friends, this hurts. They accepted my "childish edgelord routine" because they cared about me, and I thought you did too. Guess I was wrong about you. I hope you're doing well, hit me up if you need anything.

Meiva
10-31-2019, 03:48 AM
How is someone holding a camp toxic? It would be great if there was a checkable list for camps and you couldn't pass them on to whoever you want, but it's hardly toxic.

This sounds terrible.

I'm not sure the point trying to be made here, but one thing is known for sure. EverQuest existed before Daniel Day Lewis.

Ivory
10-31-2019, 04:35 AM
I'm not sure the point trying to be made here, but one thing is known for sure. EverQuest existed before Daniel Day Lewis.

Daniel Day-Lewis
Actor

Born: April 29, 1957 (age 62 years), Kensington, London, United Kingdom

.....

seanidor
10-31-2019, 05:07 AM
I don't think people were ready for every mob to be contested and it being super slow to lvl. It causes people to get all toxic and angry in game. I will say just do a /who all lfg and your lvl range and create a group. Most of these people just sit with LFG up but aren't proactive at all for making one.

Instead of being pro-active I'm more like anti-active when it comes to making groups... Some people just aren't cut out for leader roles, especially introverts. :-/

greatdane
10-31-2019, 06:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/hvzZGHE.png

zodium
10-31-2019, 08:14 AM
This is a weird response. But ill answer with a stern negative, I'm not saying that at all!

The actual actor and the character he is playing are woefully different. That's why it makes no sense to claim some large footed half-human looks like Daniel Day Lewis in a game when it doesn't at all, but does indeed share a single similar facial hair feature from a role said actor dressed up and styled to purposely mimic his role as a character he isn't in real life, even though it looks nothing like him outside of the movie.

Based on your recent logic I could post a pic of every single character Daniel has ever been in and claim they all look like your halflings face, because it's Daniel. Sound silly? Sure does!

silence, uggo

saftbudet
10-31-2019, 08:28 AM
I am suprised people are suprised about things being competitive. What did people expect, 2000 players to sing come along and share equally?

Cuktus
10-31-2019, 08:55 AM
Keza brings up something I find pretty interesting. What is the definition of toxic behavior on P99? Some things, I think, most of us will agree on. KSing is toxic. Insult, verbal abuse, etc, we can lump into toxic chat behavior. But then we start getting into grey areas. Is ignoring someone's tell toxic? What about not sharing. Mobs are at a premium right now. If I am holding down 3 or 4 static spawns and someone comes and asks to join me, should I have to accept?

I would love to hear some of your guys thoughts on this.

Dulian
10-31-2019, 09:02 AM
If you are outdoors, aren’t you obligated by the rules to share those spawns?

Mblake81
10-31-2019, 09:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/zOJTdL2.jpg

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Created by Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird in 1984, TMNT was never intended to become a global phenomenon. With a print run of just a shade over 3,000 copies, and published in a black and white magazine format, the first issue of the series reads more like a send-up of other, more established comic book characters like Daredevil and the New Mutants. As a result, Eastman and Laird never held back with their series, filling it with gratuitous violence, grotesque imagery and wild and irreverent plot points. Those who first became familiar with the ninja turtles with the rest of the universe in the late 1980s after the launch of the TMNT animated series, will in all likelihood find Eastman and Laird’s comic book characters to be completely unrecognizable. In fact, with the black and white format, the reader can’t even tell which turtle is which unless they were holding a weapon.

Anytime I see someone say Toxic I get visions of Reddit memes and Canadian female hobbits running around with "No Hate in Norrath" signs.

Cuktus
10-31-2019, 09:15 AM
If you are outdoors, aren’t you obligated by the rules to share those spawns?

The rules say you can only camp a single spawn in an outdoor zone. So if someone is camping more then one mob and someone else engages a spawn first, you have to accept you lost the mob. Not the same as sharing, however. Now you just fighting over spawns. If your are a higher level, or a more solo suitable class, you will more then likely come out on top. Same question applies, in my mind, is that toxic?

Baler
10-31-2019, 09:18 AM
I'm camping all the hill giants in rathe mountains. Please respect me and play nice somewhere else. :rolleyes:

Cuktus
10-31-2019, 09:29 AM
I'm camping all the hill giants in rathe mountains. Please respect me and play nice somewhere else. :rolleyes:

You are poking fun, but let us dig deeper. A realistic situation many of us have seen before. Hill giants are being farmed by two or three lvl 50s. You arrive on scene to see NO hill giants are up. Not one.

Now, I agree that if you are first to engage, you have rights to that mob. My question isn't about that. My question, is it toxic if the over-leveled individuals do everything (allowed by the rules) in their power to limit your ability to pull? They don't share. They don't leave you one or two mobs to hunt. They continue the slaughter to the absolute best of their abilities. Is that toxic? Or is that normal behavior?

Tecmos Deception
10-31-2019, 09:50 AM
Is that toxic? Or is that normal behavior?

This is the issue I think. Behavior isn't a yes or no, on or off, 1 or 0 thing. You can fall inbetween "polite, civilized behavior" and "toxic cod kiddy cesspool." But people are quick to label either one or the other.

Imo, simply not being polite and helpful and perhaps selfless (if you're acting within the rules, then ceding anything IS basically selfless) is one thing. Actively being a dick (like forcing your way in on someone else just because they weren't willing to be selfless and helpful, let alone something like training with intent to kill or KSing by outdamaging or whatever) is the toxic stuff.

oldhead
10-31-2019, 10:09 AM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.


pepperidge farm remembers. :D


Would like to add... its not "This game" or "This server" is toxic. It is people. People online. Was reading the classic patch notes and a couple made me laugh about the mentality of some of the gamers even back in the heyday and innocents of the Internets. People will find ways to have an advantage. Any advantage.


This is classic toxic.

*Corpse Looting Exploit*

Recently, an exploit was discovered that allowed certain unsavory
individuals to loot the corpses of other players without their consent.
The precise symptom of this is that the owner would find their corpse
stripped of everything except for no-drop items, and items in a bag
with no-drop items. This exploit was fixed in this patch.

We received word a few weeks ago that some people were using these
items to "spam" other players with their spell-effect messages, causing
them to disconnect. Though /ignore will allow you to filter out text
messages caused by people on your /ignore list, it will not allow you
to filter out spell-effect messages for spells cast upon you.


Some people were spamming others with /consent, causing them to
disconnect. As a result, /consent can now only be done once every two
seconds. Should you be harassed via this tool, please use /report.
Also, please take care to avoid accidentally /consenting someone, as it
will be two seconds before you can undo it.

Tenlaar
10-31-2019, 10:28 AM
I thought we were friends, this hurts. They accepted my "childish edgelord routine" because they cared about me, and I thought you did too. Guess I was wrong about you. I hope you're doing well, hit me up if you need anything.

The last time I grouped with you I left because you and your friend started making jokes about not liking jews and black people, and when I said something about it you told me that if I didn't like it I should leave.

You are a piece of shit and I will never have anything to do with you beyond telling people that you are a piece of shit.

Danger
10-31-2019, 10:29 AM
The last time I grouped with you I left because you and your friend started making jokes about not liking jews and black people, and when I said something about it you told me that if I didn't like it I should leave.

You are a piece of shit and I will never have anything to do with you beyond telling people that you are a piece of shit.

https://i.imgur.com/LzcWIPt.png

FatherSioux
10-31-2019, 10:40 AM
This server is very toxic. I sat at a camp for two hours waiting on "list" even dropping heals sometimes just to have two of the parties friends.

Yikes, time to reconsider your life.

bomaroast
10-31-2019, 10:45 AM
Trust me when I say this server has come a LONG way from being truly toxic. Most of the ill minded people have burned out or been banned.

back in 2010-2014 was probably the most toxic period of this server. And the fact that they had to clean up the forums is proof of this.

Many of you will never know just how crazy things on p99 and p99 forums use to be. I was lucky to catch the tail end of the madness.

I lost a friend in RL when he sat down at my computer with the P99 forums loaded up in 2010. I walked into the room with the computer and he slowly turned to look at me with the most aghast look of horror on his face. He never came over again.

Jibartik
10-31-2019, 10:50 AM
lol dial a daniel how frustrating that must be for the right brained trying to move from one camp to another :D

BlackBellamy
10-31-2019, 11:05 AM
You are poking fun, but let us dig deeper. A realistic situation many of us have seen before. Hill giants are being farmed by two or three lvl 50s. You arrive on scene to see NO hill giants are up. Not one.

Now, I agree that if you are first to engage, you have rights to that mob. My question isn't about that. My question, is it toxic if the over-leveled individuals do everything (allowed by the rules) in their power to limit your ability to pull? They don't share. They don't leave you one or two mobs to hunt. They continue the slaughter to the absolute best of their abilities. Is that toxic? Or is that normal behavior?

I want to make a blueberry pie. I go outside and find a blueberry patch. After a while another berry picker arrives and asks if they can pick from the same patch because they're making jam. If I share the patch, I won't have enough for the pie I want to make. I'll have to spend more time finding another patch. Should I inconvenience myself so another doesn't have to? What is my duty to their wants?

No one here needs pie or jam. There is no prize for the best pie. No award for the jam. We just want it because it's tasty.

It's normal human behavior. People set goals for themselves, other people do too, and sometimes these goals conflict. Then they argue about it, someone wins or loses or there is a compromise. "Toxic" should not be used to describe human behavior because it dehumanizes it and it dehumanizes the person it describes.

Khorza
10-31-2019, 11:07 AM
Every 6 man camp within my level range (Im a druid, i checked them all) is taken by a duo of 1 mage + 1 other class or swapped between infinite guild mates. Noone answers tells for the most mundane of questions leading to wonderful adventures ending in 5+ all anons after a 20 minute trip and movement patterns appearing to be a box.

None of this stuff is toxicity, it's EverQuest. If you want a group, sometimes you have to work for it or foster relationships with other players to receive invitations.

This isn't like other MMOs. Sometimes a group becomes a lot less efficient when they add new people. Some people are okay with gaining less experience, but other people are not. You are not entitled to join a group just because you feel like the group is being "greedy" by killing "too many" mobs.

Just because the game mechanics are different from other games and those game mechanics have created a different culture, doesn't mean that any of it is toxic. It's just a different experience that's mostly unique to EverQuest.

Mblake81
10-31-2019, 11:12 AM
Pre and Post social media Internet.

ravelcrew
10-31-2019, 11:38 AM
This server is very toxic. I sat at a camp for two hours waiting on "list" even dropping heals sometimes just to have two of the parties friends jump in ahead of me.


It is hilarious to see you saying this because you are such a wretched person that you personally lessened my enjoyment

both these people play paladins

Yikes, time to reconsider your life.

Lamil
10-31-2019, 11:44 AM
Instead of being pro-active I'm more like anti-active when it comes to making groups... Some people just aren't cut out for leader roles, especially introverts. :-/

Which is where some of us more outgoing people reach out to you and get a group going!

ChairmanMauzer
10-31-2019, 11:49 AM
lol dial a daniel how frustrating that must be for the right brained trying to move from one camp to another :D

What?

Jibartik
10-31-2019, 11:52 AM
I think left brained people will laugh while the more analytical will be frustrated at the inefficiency they must suffer through to find a dial a port when the camps at their current local are full up.

sedrie.bellamie
10-31-2019, 11:53 AM
This server is very toxic. I sat at a camp for two hours waiting on "list" even dropping heals sometimes just to have two of the parties friends jump in ahead of me.

It is hilarious to see you saying this because you are such a wretched person that you personally lessened my enjoyment

both these guys are paladins

Yikes, time to reconsider your life.

Lulz Sect
10-31-2019, 11:56 AM
https://imgur.com/S17vtGW.jpg

kauvian
10-31-2019, 12:10 PM
Once they added the first not on the list I was given I asked "Guys not doing list then?" which he said it was someone else who said that person was replacing them, he then added another member from his guild to group.

Not just someone from his guild, but his Hammerbro!

Zeboim
10-31-2019, 12:24 PM
/who all dial

By god, its full of furfoots

bum3
10-31-2019, 12:47 PM
I have met some good people.. i have met some toxic people.. I have met more classists than anything. Had people leave groups because I wouldn't invite more pet classes. Sorry but i'm inviting tanks cause we gonna need them soon.

kylok
10-31-2019, 01:13 PM
I want to make a blueberry pie. I go outside and find a blueberry patch. After a while another berry picker arrives and asks if they can pick from the same patch because they're making jam. If I share the patch, I won't have enough for the pie I want to make. I'll have to spend more time finding another patch. Should I inconvenience myself so another doesn't have to? What is my duty to their wants?

No one here needs pie or jam. There is no prize for the best pie. No award for the jam. We just want it because it's tasty.

It's normal human behavior. People set goals for themselves, other people do too, and sometimes these goals conflict. Then they argue about it, someone wins or loses or there is a compromise. "Toxic" should not be used to describe human behavior because it dehumanizes it and it dehumanizes the person it describes.

Very well put, thank you for that.

Danger
10-31-2019, 01:15 PM
using the term toxic is toxic, got it.

Lamil
10-31-2019, 01:57 PM
I think left brained people will laugh while the more analytical will be frustrated at the inefficiency they must suffer through to find a dial a port when the camps at their current local are full up.

You will just get a list of the ugliest Halflings.. It is sad

cd288
10-31-2019, 01:58 PM
I want to make a blueberry pie. I go outside and find a blueberry patch. After a while another berry picker arrives and asks if they can pick from the same patch because they're making jam. If I share the patch, I won't have enough for the pie I want to make. I'll have to spend more time finding another patch. Should I inconvenience myself so another doesn't have to? What is my duty to their wants?

No one here needs pie or jam. There is no prize for the best pie. No award for the jam. We just want it because it's tasty.

It's normal human behavior. People set goals for themselves, other people do too, and sometimes these goals conflict. Then they argue about it, someone wins or loses or there is a compromise. "Toxic" should not be used to describe human behavior because it dehumanizes it and it dehumanizes the person it describes.

Fair point, except the analogy isn't completely on point because sharing a camp doesn't prevent you from getting enough EXP. So by sharing a camp you can still "make your pie" so to speak (i.e. achieve your goal of getting XP to level).

Nothing wrong with someone being nice and sharing the camp instead of refusing to because splitting would slow down their XP such that it would take them like an extra 30-60 minutes to level.

ChairmanMauzer
10-31-2019, 02:31 PM
You will just get a list of the ugliest Halflings.. It is sad

They hate us because they ain't us.

zodium
10-31-2019, 02:37 PM
You will just get a list of the ugliest Halflings.. It is sad

it's not too late to reroll daniel

magusfire24
10-31-2019, 02:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU

We are toxic! LOL

Jibartik
10-31-2019, 03:16 PM
Lol every time I see that WHOOPSIE DAISY sig when I click this thread it gets me.

Jibartik
10-31-2019, 03:16 PM
'server toxic'

WHOOPSIE DAISY

'im mad'

WHOOPSIE DAISY

'u ks!'

WHOOPSIE DAISY

lol love this

WHOOPSIE DAISY

torts
10-31-2019, 11:18 PM
Everyone I've run into has been nice and friendly. I died twice in a group and nobody got mad. No one has ks'd me. One time me and someone else started casting on the same mob at the same time and we both stopped and walked away lol.

Is Faydwer just polite? Am I just lucky?

Roth
10-31-2019, 11:55 PM
Everyone I've run into has been nice and friendly. I died twice in a group and nobody got mad. No one has ks'd me. One time me and someone else started casting on the same mob at the same time and we both stopped and walked away lol.

Is Faydwer just polite? Am I just lucky?

Go to guk from 15-20 right now and you'll experience it.

Cen
11-01-2019, 12:12 AM
I have my ranger, and now a cleric.. and im starting to think that maybe I need to just be a solo class and only solo, because.. groups just aint happenin ;p

Though I know Clerics are sort of undesirable until superior/complete/rez levels.

Bazia
11-01-2019, 12:30 AM
I have my ranger, and now a cleric.. and im starting to think that maybe I need to just be a solo class and only solo, because.. groups just aint happenin ;p

Though I know Clerics are sort of undesirable until superior/complete/rez levels.

clerics can solo p good

saftbudet
11-01-2019, 02:15 AM
I have my ranger, and now a cleric.. and im starting to think that maybe I need to just be a solo class and only solo, because.. groups just aint happenin ;p

Though I know Clerics are sort of undesirable until superior/complete/rez levels.

Yeah clerics not fastest soloers, but they are robust and can take on pretty strong foes. You can def solo while waiting for group.

Deadfather
11-01-2019, 02:42 AM
it's not too late to reroll daniel

Word. Dont play for /list loot. Daniel

Muggens
11-01-2019, 08:25 AM
My love is toxic

DMN
11-01-2019, 08:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU