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Mankong
11-08-2019, 02:17 PM
Hi, I was wanting to get into Project1999 and now that Green/Teal is out, I feel like now is my chance. I really want to be a Half Elf Paladin, and was wondering the pros and cons of it. I heard about the exp penalty, but that's okay! :D

What deity should I pick? Best place to go to level? Hints and good lowbie items?

chaos1990
11-08-2019, 02:25 PM
if you go tunare as a diety you get a sick tunare only 2hander nature's defender thats all gold covered in gems later on. also all the tunare only items.

also high elves look like dorks

Coridan
11-08-2019, 02:28 PM
Erollisi Marr is the best choice so you can wear that nice pink armor.

Baler
11-08-2019, 02:32 PM
Half Elf has really good avg stats.
GO TUNARE GO TUNARE GO TUNARE

https://wiki.project1999.com/Natures_Defender

it's worth it & the quest is not all that hard.
It's basically a 2nd epic weapon come velious.

Edit: If you didn't roll Tunare, Re-roll tunare now.

dekova
11-08-2019, 02:32 PM
Welcome! You couldn't have picked a better time to join.

Tunare is a really solid pick for deity. I highly suggest you read through the p99 wiki page on paladins and google p99 paladin guid for some light reading.

Hope to see you in game.

Khorza
11-08-2019, 02:58 PM
I really want to be a Half Elf Paladin, and was wondering the pros and cons of it. I heard about the exp penalty, but that's okay! :D

Cons:

40% experience penalty. This is shared with your group so people may be less inclined to invite you. However they may have no choice, because you're a tank.
Half Elves kinda have poor stats overall. They get some boosts to Agility and Dexterity, but those aren't generally stats that you want to prioritize.
General melee problems. You're gear dependent and you tend to rely on groups to accomplish anything.


Pros:

You're a tank, and not many people play tanks. Therefore, it should be easy to find groups.
You're a hybrid, so your melee problems aren't as bad as say a Warrior's or a Rogue's. You can hold threat on mobs with just your spells, while a Warrior has to rely on specific magical weapons to perform their role in a group. And while Paladins aren't generally a good solo class, your anti-undead spells may allow you to solo undead mobs.
There's some cool exclusive gear you can get way later if you choose Tunare as your deity.
A lot of people think that Half Elves have the best looking armor graphics, especially plate armor.
Playing a Paladin has really cool class fantasy stuff. You get access to some pretty big quests in vanilla EQ like SoulFire and Fiery Avenger that other classes don't really get. The Kunark epics were based on these vanilla Paladin quests.

Maybe:

I can't remember if Half Elf Paladins of Tunare can start in Qeynos, but if you can this becomes a pro since it's the best starting area in the game.

Baler
11-08-2019, 03:17 PM
*Half Elves kinda have poor stats overall. They get some boosts to Agility and Dexterity, but those aren't generally stats that you want to prioritize.

I strongly disagree. Agi is used in the hidden evasion mechanic that determines when a mob misses you. Dex is used in the proc mechanic to ensure more procs.

Half Elf has excellent average stats.
They have Great CHA which is in high demand for the paladin's lull spells.

A paladin can pull/split mobs so damn good with later lull spells if they have CHA.

Khorza
11-08-2019, 03:19 PM
I strongly disagree. Agi is used in the hidden evasion mechanic that determines when a mob misses you. Dex is used in the proc mechanic to ensure more procs.

Yeah I didn't say they were worthless. But Agility and Dexterity play a small role in avoidance and proc rate. Dexterity isn't going to do anything for him until he gets a weapon that procs, which could be never, and Paladins don't rely on their procs like Warriors do. The benefit of Agility is very small once you're above 75.

They're very minor stats. Stamina, Wisdom, and Strength are all much more important, and Dwarves and Humans start with better Strength, Stamina, and Wisdom. High Elves and Erudites start with better Wisdom. Half Elves are definitely a bit below average for Paladin stats, but it's not that significant since Paladins can't be the best races (large races) anyways. Half Elf Paladin is viable, but not optimal.

bum3
11-08-2019, 03:23 PM
Pallies are awesome. We need more tanks. Half elves are sexy average stat race that you can't go wrong with. Pick Tunare! There are only 2 cons IMO. Exp penalty and you aren't picking dwarf.

Cen
11-08-2019, 03:26 PM
Paladin race doesn't matter as much as other classes. None of their races have significant special abilities, so pick your favorite fashion. However, as is usual with the typical class/diety hierarchy Paladin starts with Tunare as everyone said.

bum3
11-08-2019, 03:31 PM
Paladin race doesn't matter as much as other classes. None of their races have significant special abilities, so pick your favorite fashion. However, as is usual with the typical class/diety hierarchy Paladin starts with Tunare as everyone said.

Barrel Roll? The most important special ability.

Baler
11-08-2019, 03:45 PM
Barrel Roll? The most important special ability.

Arguably dwarf CHA is bad which will lead to many lull resists and deaths.

Mankong
11-08-2019, 03:47 PM
Cons:

Maybe:
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I can't remember if Half Elf Paladins of Tunare can start in Qeynos, but if you can this becomes a pro since it's the best starting area in the game.

Sadly we start in Felwithe. Any path you’d recommend to get me to Qeynos? :D

Also to anyone else, are there any newbie quests I should look out for? I heard about Trumpy Irontoe.

bum3
11-08-2019, 03:55 PM
Sadly we start in Felwithe. Any path you’d recommend to get me to Qeynos? :D

Also to anyone else, are there any newbie quests I should look out for? I heard about Trumpy Irontoe.

Scarab quests are good. Turn in crushbone belts/pads in kaladim as well.

bum3
11-08-2019, 03:57 PM
Arguably dwarf CHA is bad which will lead to many lull resists and deaths.

hehe wife's ench has 95 cha and it gets crit resisted 50% of the time. Not sure any pally can do it well.

Baler
11-08-2019, 04:03 PM
hehe wife's ench has 95 cha and it gets crit resisted 50% of the time. Not sure any pally can do it well.

Someone did a self study recently that they found each point of CHA = 0.25% less resist

so at according to their info 95 CHA = 23.75% less chance for resist.

I can't verify but it's better than nothing I guess.

bum3
11-08-2019, 04:04 PM
Someone did a self study recently that they found each point of CHA = 0.25% less resist

so at according to their info 95 CHA = 23.75% less chance for resist.

I can't verify but it's better than nothing I guess.

Man.. i'm sure that is a much drastically lower number when trying on yellow mobs. Let alone red ones.

Baler
11-08-2019, 04:05 PM
Lull line -- some empirical testing on CHA and crit resist rates
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327383

Yorkshire
11-08-2019, 04:07 PM
All that matters is you walk in the ways of Rodcet Nife the Prime Healer. You cannot go wrong by ridding Norrath from death and disease!

bum3
11-08-2019, 04:07 PM
Lull line -- some empirical testing on CHA and crit resist rates
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327383

Thanks

Dirkdaring
11-08-2019, 04:19 PM
if you go tunare as a diety you get a sick tunare only 2hander nature's defender thats all gold covered in gems later on. also all the tunare only items.

also high elves look like dorks


Can get a 2 Hander that looks almost as good as Natures Defender off Tunare , Petrified heartwood Flamberge, was my fav weapon before getting 2h off Bertox Greatblade of Chaos .


http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7040

stewe
11-08-2019, 05:22 PM
Natures Defender doesnt come out til Velious, i doubt youll be playing a pally by then, just saying

Baler
11-08-2019, 05:23 PM
Natures Defender doesnt come out til Velious, i doubt youll be playing a pally by then, just saying

That's cold. Just as cold as velious's amazing gear and weapon selection!
Tunare is introduced in velious. Roll Tunare today for a future you can believe in.

Velious will save project 1999

Mankong
11-08-2019, 06:16 PM
Natures Defender doesnt come out til Velious, i doubt youll be playing a pally by then, just saying

I can wait. :)

Caledore
11-08-2019, 06:43 PM
It's been working well for me! No plate armor yet, but they have peak fashion for plate.

Tanks seem to be in short supply; I've gotten unsolicited tells asking if I was LFG. So while the penalty sucks for soloing, you shouldn't have any issues finding groups.

Mankong
11-08-2019, 06:59 PM
It's been working well for me! No plate armor yet, but they have peak fashion for plate.

Tanks seem to be in short supply; I've gotten unsolicited tells asking if I was LFG. So while the penalty sucks for soloing, you shouldn't have any issues finding groups.

That’s a relief! Half Elf bros, unite!