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unleashedd
11-12-2019, 03:07 AM
lotsa ppl complain about cash to start:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Deputy_Tagil%27s_Debt takes literaly 90 seconds for the whole quest, fishing rod sells for a few gp, potion is 1pp

http://wiki.project1999.com/Knight_Card_Quest ringmail, blackiron, bronze; you'll be Scrooge McDuck coin diving soon

something in qeynos area for sure too but im not down with that

Pyrion
11-12-2019, 04:06 AM
That knight card quest seems to be pretty involved. Looks like you need to do 2 quests before and you need a boat trip to finish, looks like several hours of work.

Vormotus
11-12-2019, 04:09 AM
lotsa ppl complain about cash to start:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Deputy_Tagil%27s_Debt takes literaly 90 seconds for the whole quest, fishing rod sells for a few gp, potion is 1pp

http://wiki.project1999.com/Knight_Card_Quest ringmail, blackiron, bronze; you'll be Scrooge McDuck coin diving soon

something in qeynos area for sure too but im not down with that

Hmmm Interesting anything for us evil types that love to praise Berties Drunken songs in Qeynos?

A bit short of cash for my level 8 spells and the price spike is real from level 1 and 4 ...
https://i.imgur.com/b5k7bj3.gif

Tyro
11-12-2019, 05:36 AM
Rolled my first Ogre.. the lizard tails and meat quest.. 2g a turn in and more lizard broodlings then you can shake a stick at, plus they drop weapons and cloth on top of that.

By 5 I had full banded, forged wep, and 50p to spare.

Life’s been disappointing after that though, farming bear pelts in commonlands way less efficient.

Any other good ones? Planning to switch to wisp hunting once I reach 9 or so.

Tethler
11-12-2019, 05:45 AM
Rolled my first Ogre.. the lizard tails and meat quest.. 2g a turn in and more lizard broodlings then you can shake a stick at, plus they drop weapons and cloth on top of that.

By 5 I had full banded, forged wep, and 50p to spare.

Life’s been disappointing after that though, farming bear pelts in commonlands way less efficient.

Any other good ones? Planning to switch to wisp hunting once I reach 9 or so.

Greater lightstones vendor for over 4p, though everyone with a magic weapon is beelining for wisps as soon as they see them.

cd288
11-12-2019, 07:08 AM
The Tagil quest is completely inconsistent though. You can get rewards that are worth coppers. It's also really mind numbing. Honestly, you'll make more plat in an hour in a group killing Karana bandits than you would doing the Tagil quest. You'd be very lucky to hit 30-40pp in an hour with the Tagil quest.

unleashedd
11-12-2019, 07:22 AM
re: Tagil - i did it for an hour as lvl1. made like 30pp. enough to buy all spells for lvl1 and lvl5 and 8 medicine bags and scarab armor and still had plenty leftover. sure, could have been mob grinding but then i wouldnt have the cash

re: Knightcard - no prequest needed. while camping Cleaner, collect giant rat pelts to turn in 4 at a time to same guy (if theyd stack, id save them for later cause still good exp at lvl10)

Wallicker
11-12-2019, 08:14 AM
Qeynos:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Karana%27s_Blessing
+
https://wiki.project1999.com/Broken_Lute

Grab your two notes from Qeynos and 12minute run to WK and SK great xp and 3-5pp per run.

Tecmos Deception
11-12-2019, 09:05 AM
What the hell are you guys doing that killing newbie mobs isn't enough income to afford your essential spells? Stop spending all your coin on hookers and blow.

cd288
11-12-2019, 10:06 AM
Qeynos:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Karana%27s_Blessing
+
https://wiki.project1999.com/Broken_Lute

Grab your two notes from Qeynos and 12minute run to WK and SK great xp and 3-5pp per run.

What's the EXP per turn in? Because 3-5pp for a 24 minute round trip is absolutely awful lol

Vormotus
11-12-2019, 07:03 PM
What the hell are you guys doing that killing newbie mobs isn't enough income to afford your essential spells? Stop spending all your coin on hookers and blow.

I dont know about you man, but I have barely enough pp to buy 2 level 8 necro spells at 8 in qeynos ... dunno how people make that much money to be honest.

Only thing that saved me a BIT was that I sold all my earrings and rings for 10pp from sewers, and I am still broke, as level 8 spells are all 4p6g+ EACH, so I only could afford pet and deadeye as I see crap as a human. Currently saving up to buy dark pact and then gather shadows, the rest I will leave when I am rolling in dough

Honestly wish I knew how to make phat cash like you all do, but it is baffling to me HOW.:confused:

kaluppo
11-12-2019, 07:07 PM
What the hell are you guys doing that killing newbie mobs isn't enough income to afford your essential spells? Stop spending all your coin on hookers and blow.

LOL!

I don't get it. I ignored bats and killed wasps for venom sacs and skeletons for weapons and cloth gear. By the time I reached lvl 5 I had already made 20 pp which was more than enough for my lvl 5 spells.

Just fight stuff that can drop things that sell for 1 gold or better and you'll be fine in the lower levels.

Swish
11-12-2019, 07:11 PM
Qeynos does seem more difficult to get some coin together. Not sure about the aqueducts but out in the newbie area/Qhills there's not much unless you want to be killing level 1 skeletons at level 3-4 for potential coin/cloth/etc.

Easy to make money in Crushbone, just need to get a group and get a belt rotation going.

Vormotus
11-12-2019, 07:16 PM
Qeynos does seem more difficult to get some coin together. Not sure about the aqueducts but out in the newbie area/Qhills there's not much unless you want to be killing level 1 skeletons at level 3-4 for potential coin/cloth/etc.

Easy to make money in Crushbone, just need to get a group and get a belt rotation going.

This is what I believe people are missing out being so accustomed to ultra rich bourgeois Faydwer and other areas.

Back in QEYNOS we actually have to WORK HARD the way it really needs to be done as we are not pampered by the Elf Hippy Government with those ridiculous drops that give GOLDS so you can have PLATINUM pieces to spare at level 5...

meh ;)

zodias
11-12-2019, 07:25 PM
once you hit 8+ in Qeynos though you can get bandit groups which makes for the best plat generation in the 8 to 14ish range. Bandits happen to be the most liberal droppers of bronze weapons and every sash = a bronze weapon. i moved from Qeynos to Commonlands at 13. the exp was better in befallen but the money was scarce. I brew through 200 plat i had saved from bandts and haven't made hardly anythign back.

amnesia998
11-12-2019, 08:02 PM
I'm level 8 currently and did the lizard meat/tail quest and killed skellies, and only earned 50p, rough.

Vormotus
11-13-2019, 02:13 AM
once you hit 8+ in Qeynos though you can get bandit groups which makes for the best plat generation in the 8 to 14ish range. Bandits happen to be the most liberal droppers of bronze weapons and every sash = a bronze weapon. i moved from Qeynos to Commonlands at 13. the exp was better in befallen but the money was scarce. I brew through 200 plat i had saved from bandts and haven't made hardly anythign back.

Wow! I guess I will have to go there and LFG ... money is ultra crap near qeynos or below it.

Wonder if there is any quest as well I can repeat on off hours where I want to do something diff

unleashedd
11-13-2019, 03:18 AM
Nybright camp: 10 hours, 4 levels (14-18), 500pp. could have been more exp and cash and less time, but the camp is TOO popular

cd288
11-13-2019, 07:43 AM
once you hit 8+ in Qeynos though you can get bandit groups which makes for the best plat generation in the 8 to 14ish range. Bandits happen to be the most liberal droppers of bronze weapons and every sash = a bronze weapon. i moved from Qeynos to Commonlands at 13. the exp was better in befallen but the money was scarce. I brew through 200 plat i had saved from bandts and haven't made hardly anythign back.

People let level 8s into the Bandit groups? In my experience it's level 10 minimum

Dirkdaring
11-13-2019, 07:49 AM
People let level 8s into the Bandit groups? In my experience it's level 10 minimum


The bandits on average are lvl 9- 12 , the reason people arent letting people join until lvl 10, is because you have people not leaving, there are people 15 to 18 still farming the bandits, instead of moving on to new areas .

they could move to east karna, or lake Rath, Everfrost, even high hold pass gnolls, orcs etc,

beeshma_nameless
11-13-2019, 08:12 AM
once you hit 8+ in Qeynos though you can get bandit groups which makes for the best plat generation in the 8 to 14ish range. Bandits happen to be the most liberal droppers of bronze weapons and every sash = a bronze weapon. i moved from Qeynos to Commonlands at 13. the exp was better in befallen but the money was scarce. I brew through 200 plat i had saved from bandts and haven't made hardly anythign back.

Sadly, this is not good for a Bertoxx (Qeynos) necro, as each sash turn-in has a huge negative hit with bloodsabers (necro/SK Guild) :(

For everyone else who dont care about qeynos sewers bloodsabers faction, bandits are just a huge exp and cash machine heh.

I just killed only gnolls, skellys to get the most coin/cloth armor/rusty armor to sell.

Lhord99
11-13-2019, 10:17 AM
Nybright camp: 10 hours, 4 levels (14-18), 500pp. could have been more exp and cash and less time, but the camp is TOO popular

A whole camp clear is like 12pp - x8 (not efficient enough to get all spawns in, in the hour), you’re lookin at 96pp an hour. How’d you only snag 500pp?! Or are you only allowed one kill now that they’re locked up?

Baler
11-13-2019, 10:19 AM
Kaladim guards 300-400p per hour
Sell at the druid ring in butcher

cd288
11-13-2019, 10:47 AM
A whole camp clear is like 12pp - x8 (not efficient enough to get all spawns in, in the hour), you’re lookin at 96pp an hour. How’d you only snag 500pp?! Or are you only allowed one kill now that they’re locked up?

The Wiki seems to indicate that they don't always spawn with the bronze weapons, so maybe that's what it was?

Evia
11-13-2019, 12:56 PM
I dont know about you man, but I have barely enough pp to buy 2 level 8 necro spells at 8 in qeynos ... dunno how people make that much money to be honest.

Only thing that saved me a BIT was that I sold all my earrings and rings for 10pp from sewers, and I am still broke, as level 8 spells are all 4p6g+ EACH, so I only could afford pet and deadeye as I see crap as a human. Currently saving up to buy dark pact and then gather shadows, the rest I will leave when I am rolling in dough

Honestly wish I knew how to make phat cash like you all do, but it is baffling to me HOW.:confused:


Karana Bandits. In 3hrs of farming a 5 spawn camp i made 250p. It's not the greatest spot but its easy and you can solo the camp around lvl 15.

Vormotus
11-13-2019, 02:43 PM
Sadly, this is not good for a Bertoxx (Qeynos) necro, as each sash turn-in has a huge negative hit with bloodsabers (necro/SK Guild) :(

For everyone else who dont care about qeynos sewers bloodsabers faction, bandits are just a huge exp and cash machine heh.

I just killed only gnolls, skellys to get the most coin/cloth armor/rusty armor to sell.

wow no, guess bandits is not an option then meh ...

I really really like my bloodsabers faction, banking, spells, a cool roomy area and some peace and quiet, as sewers is hardly full of people unlike the other areas.

Meh ...

Guess I am stuck here for a while on plat then, dinged 9 on my necro and still dreading my level 12 spells cash fund.

toddfx
11-13-2019, 03:44 PM
Rolled my first Ogre.. the lizard tails and meat quest.. 2g a turn in and more lizard broodlings then you can shake a stick at, plus they drop weapons and cloth on top of that.

By 5 I had full banded, forged wep, and 50p to spare.

Life’s been disappointing after that though, farming bear pelts in commonlands way less efficient.

Any other good ones? Planning to switch to wisp hunting once I reach 9 or so.

Yeah I too am playing my first Ogre since live, and have been raking it in thanks to those lizards in Feerrott. Running around killing broodlings and decaying skeletons fills 6 backpacks with rusties, cloth, and tails in under 45 minutes. Brings in nearly 10pp a haul. I'm about to ding level 5 and have made over 100pp.

You start to zero in on some specific locs where the lizards path through in masses, and they literally just come to you. I'll be bummed when they all probably turn green to me after I ding!

Polycaster
11-13-2019, 05:15 PM
What the hell are you guys doing that killing newbie mobs isn't enough income to afford your essential spells? Stop spending all your coin on hookers and blow.

What?! Someone has found a way to RMT plat into hookermoney?! Tell me! So I can, um, inform the proper authorities... to get it shut down. And for science.


Pretty sure the real reason paper money was invented was because its so much easier to tuck a dollar bill in a garter than a gold piece.

Polycaster
11-13-2019, 05:17 PM
This is what I believe people are missing out being so accustomed to ultra rich bourgeois Faydwer and other areas.

Back in QEYNOS we actually have to WORK HARD the way it really needs to be done as we are not pampered by the Elf Hippy Government with those ridiculous drops that give GOLDS so you can have PLATINUM pieces to spare at level 5...

meh ;)


Buncha punks. The Karanas are uphill, traveling both east and west.

dekova
11-13-2019, 08:23 PM
Drop 20 points or so into Tailoring and turn every ruined Pelt into tattered armor. The pattern costs about 5 silver and the vendor buys the tattered armor for about 1.5 gold. Buy a stack of patterns and carry them in your sewing kit. Protip: gorgets only weigh 0.4 stone.

larper99
11-13-2019, 09:00 PM
Drop 20 points or so into Tailoring and turn every ruined Pelt into tattered armor. The pattern costs about 5 silver and the vendor buys the tattered armor for about 1.5 gold. Buy a stack of patterns and carry them in your sewing kit. Protip: gorgets only weigh 0.4 stone.
That's my method. Once at trivial, guaranteed tripling of money. Turn 1 plat for 20 patterns into 3 plat for crafted items. It's slow, but a constant trickle of plat into my purse. Side benefit: I also turn the meat into sandwiches and steaks for minimal cost.

Aaramis
11-13-2019, 09:06 PM
Lavastorm drakes / dervishes / imps and elementals have been good to me.

No issues for plat on my Necro in his teens.

For the Faydwer folk, Steamfont offers similar plat in the form of harpies, drake's and the odd mino slaver.

unleashedd
11-14-2019, 12:14 AM
A whole camp clear is like 12pp - x8 (not efficient enough to get all spawns in, in the hour), you’re lookin at 96pp an hour. How’d you only snag 500pp?! Or are you only allowed one kill now that they’re locked up?

i was almost always duo at this camp, cause its so popular even when there only 200 ppl online, someone is there

TheRusty
11-14-2019, 01:49 AM
#1: Loot everything. if it's not no-drop, then it has value on a merchant.

#2: Newbie Yard target priority: Decaying Skeletons > Humanoid mobs > Bears / Wolves > Bats > Bugs > Snakes

#3: learn what quests give what rewards. Just because the bone chip quests XP has been destroyed on Green (because classic has an asterisk!) doesn't mean the monetary rewards should be overlooked. Four bone chips can translate into a four GP tattered tunic in Kaladim; six bone chips can net a rawhide tunic worth a plat in Erudin!

#4: Stockpile cash. The levels between fifteen and thirty are kind of a ghost town for money due to the necessity of grouping and the absolute guarantee your groupmates will be instantly-clicking the cash out of every mob while you med, believing that autosplit actually splits money. It doesn't matter if those bandits in Lake Rathe are XP greens to you - grab all the sashes and bronze you can for as long as the camp is viable.

#5: Don't be afraid to auction stupid stuff (just don't expect much for it.) Someone out there wants a bunch of spiderling silk. Someone out there wants that Rune of Al'Kabor. Someone out there wants that Clay Idol. it never hurts to let people know you have something before you merchant it off.

#6: Prioritize your purchases. Spellcasters need spells before they need any gear. Melee characters need weapons before they need armor. Casters need their casting stat before they need other stats. Melee characters need armor class before they need other stats (at least, for now.) If the upgrade you're looking at isn't a strong one, then it's a sidegrade and you should save your money (Upgrading from tattered armor to banded is a big upgrade. Upgrading from chainmail to banded is only an upgrade if you really have the cash to spare, otherwise it's a sidegrade.)

#7: Decide what cities you don't care about. Kill their guards. City guards are usually pretty well-paid, dropping several plat in cash, plus weapons of at least fine steel quality. Oggok, Felwithe, and Misty Thicket wall guards are the easiest ones here, but almost all of them are viable.

Grobb (levle 40): 3pp cash, Longsword (11p), round shield (1.5p) guaranteed; assorted gems & research, rarely fine steel .
Neriak (levels 35-40): fine steel great staff and round shield guaranteed; research and gem drops as per level; occasional extra fine steel. Average 5pp cash
Nektulos (levels 16-22): Bronze long sword guaranteed; level-appropriate cash, gems, research
Feerott (level 37): Fine steel longsword and round shield guaranteed; low cash (1pp average)
Oggok (level 37): Fine steel longsword and round shield guaranteed; 90% chance of a Crude Stein; 3-7pp and level-appropriate gems / research
Steamfont Mountains (level 35): Short sword (2p) and small round shield guaranteed; chance at ringmail armor; 3-ish PP.
Ak'Anon (level 37): Short sword and small round shield guaranteed; assorted clockwork junk and low-level research. Very low cash.
Qeynos (level 8 - 15): Guaranteed Rusty longsword and ~1gp cash for both corrupt and legit guards. Was unable to kill Arathur or Lancot while collecting data (level 50's, immune to all spells I threw at them as 65 Beastlord, high HP regen; essentially they have the gate guard buff)
Erudin (level 30) 3pp and a LORE item battle Staff (4pp to a merchant) guaranteed. These guys are all Paladins and LoH themselves. (Also, maybe a Live-only feature, but they carry a truly MASSIVE -300 faction hit to the High Guard of erudin and -255 to the merchants of erudin; also a +45 to Heretics faction if that's your jam)
Felwithe (level 42): Guaranteed Two-Handed Sword (21p); 5-9pp, level-appropriate jewelry and research. Like erudin these are all paladins and will LoH and cast healing on themselves and each other.
Kelethin (level 40-42) Guaranteed fine steel long sword and round shield; Some dual weild another fine steel. ~5pp cash. Captain Silverwind is level 44, dame drops, but with a guaranteed non-FS longsword (11p)
Everfrost peaks (level 40) Guaranteed fine steel two-handed sword; very low cash (max 4pp).
Halas (level 40):guaranteed fine steel two-handed sword; 4-5pp average cash
Butcherblock Mountains (level 40): Guaranteed Dwarven Axe (4pp); ~5p cash; semi-rare chance at fine steel weapons.
Kaladim (level 38-40): Guaranteed drop of battle Axe (9.5pp) and small kite shield (4pp) ~5pp in cash, mid-range gems and research. Occasional fine steel.
Misty Thicket (level 25-30): Guaranteed Spear (10p) and small Round shield. Got the other occasional non-FS weapon; also a few bronze weapon drops. Averaged 1pp cash. (Loot may be quite different; Misty is one of the revamped zones on live)
Rivervale (level 37): Guaranteed short sword drop. Average cash of 9 silver (good lord)

And just for completeness:
Paineel (levels 15-27): Bronze bastard sword and kite shield (4pp) guaranteed; upwards of 3 plat cash. VERY low HP for their levels (pet killed a level 23 guard with a 75 hit and 155 Relic blast).
Freeport: I collected all this data on live servers; Freeport is a stupid mess with level 99 guards roaming in packs of up to ten. No data collected.
Cabilis (level 50): My beastlord's hometown, but i still tried; seems that attacking a guard causes a pretty high aggro radius, I could never pull one without at least two more coming in. Very high HP, very resistant; not gate guard level, but still tough enough that three was more of a challenge that I wanted to put up with.

Spock2020
11-14-2019, 02:27 AM
I am wondering 1 thing I saw a dark elf killing his own guards in neriak. Wouldn't it be better to kill guards that hate you in that case in good city then killing your faction in your home town or in town of the same side.

cd288
11-14-2019, 07:40 AM
#4: Stockpile cash. The levels between fifteen and thirty are kind of a ghost town for money due to the necessity of grouping and the absolute guarantee your groupmates will be instantly-clicking the cash out of every mob while you med, believing that autosplit actually splits money. It doesn't matter if those bandits in Lake Rathe are XP greens to you - grab all the sashes and bronze you can for as long as the camp is viable.

There's actually a good number of places in classic to farm plat between 15-30

Frug
11-14-2019, 07:44 AM
On a whim, I looked at all my logs for my new Druid. He is a halfling, went immediately to Steamfont to level, got to level 4, went to Kaladim and turned in 6 stacks of collected bone chips, got to level 4.6, went back out to BB and leveled to about 4.85, turned in another 2 stacks, and leveled to 5. So at level 5 from all that, I had about 40 plat, which got me my level 5 spells I wanted, and a couple level 1's.

In that time, I killed basically just skels and kobs in SF, and skels, gobs, and the off scarab and spider since they were level 2.

Here's the count of what gets you to 30-40 plat by level 5.

224 a decaying gnome skeleton
99 a kobold runt
65 a decaying dwarf skeleton
53 a goblin whelp
17 a worker scarab
10 a large rat
8 a rock spiderling
7 a gnome skeleton
4 a decaying skeleton
2 a giant wasp drone
1 orc pawn
1 an infected rat
1 a snake

turbosilk
11-14-2019, 08:38 AM
On a whim, I looked at all my logs for my new Druid. He is a halfling, went immediately to Steamfont to level, got to level 4, went to Kaladim and turned in 6 stacks of collected bone chips, got to level 4.6, went back out to BB and leveled to about 4.85, turned in another 2 stacks, and leveled to 5. So at level 5 from all that, I had about 40 plat, which got me my level 5 spells I wanted, and a couple level 1's.

In that time, I killed basically just skels and kobs in SF, and skels, gobs, and the off scarab and spider since they were level 2.

Here's the count of what gets you to 30-40 plat by level 5.

224 a decaying gnome skeleton
99 a kobold runt
65 a decaying dwarf skeleton
53 a goblin whelp
17 a worker scarab
10 a large rat
8 a rock spiderling
7 a gnome skeleton
4 a decaying skeleton
2 a giant wasp drone
1 orc pawn
1 an infected rat
1 a snake

Great example. Thank you.

oldhead
11-14-2019, 10:54 PM
Rolled my first Ogre.. the lizard tails and meat quest.. 2g a turn in and more lizard broodlings then you can shake a stick at, plus they drop weapons and cloth on top of that.

By 5 I had full banded, forged wep, and 50p to spare.

Life’s been disappointing after that though, farming bear pelts in commonlands way less efficient.

Any other good ones? Planning to switch to wisp hunting once I reach 9 or so.

I can tell you did roll him the first week. Every spawn was perma camped in the noob area.