Regarding the manastone

[korzax]

Make it no drop and lore, end the madness.

[Swish]

Not classic

[Whirled]

agreed. make certain items one per account even to further end the madness.

[zodium]

make legacy items drop 6 at a time

[stakka]

Not classic


this counterpoint left the chat awhile ago

[Lojik]

I mean does it need to be lore if it's no drop?

[baakss]

We haven't seen a Manastone on Green in 36 hours now. Lore / No Drop isn't the issue here.

[Khaleesi]

Not classic

Neither is the list system...
Or injecting no longer available items back into Blue later on.

[Baa]

Hand in note to your GM when you start a new char, get manastone. Problem solved.

[Acidreams]

I cant see how not allowing people to hoard 5 manastones for the lulz is in any way bad. Your probably doing someones health a favour.

[Gorster]

Hand in note to your GM when you start a new char, get manastone. Problem solved.

I’m a fan of this, if just to see all the newbies stone themselves to death.

[Cen]

Protip, you don't need a manastone if you don't use mana to beat asses.

[Izmael]

Just don't merge Green to Blue. Legacy items are supposed to never drop again.

If they cyclically drop instead, they are no longer legacy.

Removing the whole idea of legacy items from P99 is IMO very wrong and goes against the whole vision (tm) of having a museum-quality up-to-Velious EQ clone.

Just merge new Green servers to the current Green.

[Tilien]

Just don't merge Green to Blue. Legacy items are supposed to never drop again.

If they cyclically drop instead, they are no longer legacy.

Removing the whole idea of legacy items from P99 is IMO very wrong and goes against the whole vision (tm) of having a museum-quality up-to-Velious EQ clone.

Just merge new Green servers to the current Green.

Isn't this just merging blue and green with extra steps?

[jacob54311]

Just don't merge Green to Blue. Legacy items are supposed to never drop again.



Wouldn't merging new green servers to current green have the same issue? You'd take a newer server where legacy items only stopped dropping more recently with an older server. Same thing.

[Danth]

Isn't this just merging blue and green with extra steps?

Not quite, he's suggesting that Blue should remain permanently separate from the recycle servers. I think the idea is that it lowers the motivation of some of the folks camping manastone due to seeing virtual dollar signs in their heads. It's not a bad idea, but I suspect he's under-estimating the power of the pixel sickness.

Danth

[Tilien]

Not quite, he's suggesting that Blue should remain permanently separate from the recycle servers. I think the idea is that it lowers the motivation of some of the folks camping manastone due to seeing virtual dollar signs in their heads. It's not a bad idea, but I suspect he's under-estimating the power of the pixel sickness.

Danth

But Green 2.0 merging into Green 1.0 in 6 years will have the same problem that green 1.0 has merging into Blue... new legacy items introduced into a locked server. You're only kicking the can down the road, so to speak and seems a lot more like a "fuck blue" comment then actually solving the supposed problem which is only solved by having no merges ever, including no teal/green merge because of the extra manastones that will exist after that.

[Grakken]

Protip, you don't need a manastone if you don't use mana to beat asses.

Its quite useful on a warrior maintaining 40% zerker status. I remember seeing a warrior get 229 crippling blow xping at 35.

[Izmael]

But Green 2.0 merging into Green 1.0 in 6 years will have the same problem that green 1.0 has merging into Blue...

Not really.

Green 1.0 will have a shitload of stones, guises and such items farmed. Thousands of people are trying to get one as we speak. Green 2.0 will bring more, but that won't count as 1.0 will have so many already.

Blue, on the other hand, has few stones and even fewer active guises remaining.

It's a world of difference.

[Tilien]

Not really.

Green 1.0 will have a shitload of stones, guises and such items farmed. Thousands of people are trying to get one as we speak. Green 2.0 will bring more, but that won't count as 1.0 will have so many already.

Blue, on the other hand, has few stones and even fewer active guises remaining.

It's a world of difference.


So you're afraid that the value of the manastone will go too high if it merges with blue? Or are you afraid that green merging with blue will upset the ..uh...healthy economy of blue?

Teal and green merging is gonna have a far greater "anti classic" effect than blue and green merging, and servers being locked at pre luclin isn't gonna be classic anyway, separating rot servers is just gonna kill them faster, merge rot servers or eliminate them altogether. Pick one.

[Lone Gnome]

Make every character start with one and a fungi tunic

[Jimjam]

I'm so confused by something.

Personally, I don't see manastone as a great item, but apparently many people disagree with me, and that is fine. That's not the thing that confuses me.

What confuses me, is the idea that people don't want more useful items.

I appreciate green is about the journey and starting fresh so things are different. That's not what blue is about, though: its an end of life server. I don't even care if it's not me that has the manastones on blue; it's a team game of players versus environment. The better equipped the players are as a whole the better it is for me and the more content is open for me to take part in.

Like, if I was on a Vox raid on blue, I'd definitely rather the cleric had a manastone. Lets get some bards their epics!

What reason is there to not want other people to have better pixels?

[Robersonroger38]

Make it work in all zone all the way to Velious, Problem solve boys!!

[AegnorP99]

Randomize it to drop from any level appripriate mob, a la Box of Abu Kar!

[DemonChocolate]

Make it work only on Kerra Isle.

[Ligma]

Make it act as a magic 8 ball that determines all raid disputes for the next 10 years

[Zeboim]

Its not enough that I succeed, others should fail.

- This server

[Tilien]

That's not what blue is about, though: its an end of life server.


Honestly they're talking about "custom classic" stuff for blue, if that happens then great but Blue never was and never will be classic. And 6 months locked into velious Green will just be a rot server like Blue. What is the fear of them merging? The the price of manastones is gonna explode? Or that Blues will get their claws on mana stones?

Maintaining multiple rot servers to preserve the "integrity" of a server is ridiculous the only way to maintain the time line is... well.. Luclin.

And peace, I'm out before I get pitch forked.

[Khorza]

Blue, on the other hand, has few stones and even fewer active guises remaining

Blue only "has few stones" because it's been around for 10 years and a lot of them are on characters that will never log in again. Manastone was camped 24/7 on Blue too, and it was even a common drop for awhile.

When Green is 10 years old Manastones will be rare again too.

[korzax]

Hand in note to your GM when you start a new char, get manastone. Problem solved.

And to get your robe you have to click until you die, love it!

[korzax]

Isn't this just merging blue and green with extra steps?

It's just slavery with more steps.

[korzax]

Randomize it to drop from any level appripriate mob, a la Box of Abu Kar!

Perfect.

[Swish]

Teal and green merging is gonna have a far greater "anti classic" effect than blue and green merging

This is a good point. Maybe the drop rate of manastones needs to be halved from what it is currently to maintain classic drop rate integrity? :rolleyes:

[Argh]

A lot of bad ideas in here

[Invalid_Bard]

Manastone has two key words in it. Man and stone, so be a fucking man and get some stones. Neckbeard your drop and end this daily thread trend of crying about pixels and how the big kids aren't letting you play.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Manastone has two key words in it. Man and stone, so be a fucking man and get some stones. Neckbeard your drop and end this daily thread trend of crying about pixels and how the big kids aren't letting you play.

Seriously tired of all these crybabies who are used to insta wow rewards, pretending like they didn't know EQ was CLASSIC. This is EQ, THIS is why we play here. THIS is not for your average gamer IF you want to play at the HIGHEST level possible.


The great thing is that you don't have to play at the highest level to have fun, and infact more fun can be had just playing the game casually and not being a basketcase.

[aaezil]

I'm so confused by something.

Personally, I don't see manastone as a great item, but apparently many people disagree with me, and that is fine. That's not the thing that confuses me.

What confuses me, is the idea that people don't want more useful items.

I appreciate green is about the journey and starting fresh so things are different. That's not what blue is about, though: its an end of life server. I don't even care if it's not me that has the manastones on blue; it's a team game of players versus environment. The better equipped the players are as a whole the better it is for me and the more content is open for me to take part in.

Like, if I was on a Vox raid on blue, I'd definitely rather the cleric had a manastone. Lets get some bards their epics!

What reason is there to not want other people to have better pixels?

They dont want manastones to roll into blue because they think they are somehow special that they have something that no one can ever get again

[Swish]

Honestly just grind something that doesn't require staying awake for 3 days and buy one later.