Being a Necro pre-Kunark?

[Vanessa]

I've read that Necros and Mages are the two best classes to play / farm money with in short 1-2 hour play sessions. I've also heard that Necros are not really worth playing until Kunark because Iksar is super super good for Necros.

I was just wondering, for those of you who are currently playing Necros now on Teal and Green. How has it been so far? Do you feel like you could do much more, or be much more stronger if you had the Iksar Regen?

[WaffleztheAndal]

Aren’t Necros actually stronger relative to other classes pre Kunark? I thought the Necro class began to fall behind starting in Kunark and continuing on into Velious.

[Wwen42]

It's mostly that Iksar regen is just really great with the Nec tools. My gnome nec is chugging along like a champ solo.

[tsuchang]

Yup. Ikis are the best in my book.
You just have to keep in mind, nobody likes you. You have to earn faction everywhere except iki town.
Later in game, the litch line of spells along with your regeneration and life tap spells are a nice cheat. You get to take their hp and add it to yours, use that hp to make mana to take more of their hp.

[WaffleztheAndal]

To answer the op, anytime I see a tier list of class strength by expansion/era, Necromancers always starts high in classic and falls to lower tiers in Kunark and then again lower in Velious. I would think this means there is no reason not to roll a Necro now if all you are worried about is their strength pre-Kunark.

[Robersonroger38]

I’ve leveled a gnome necro and a iksar necro, the regen is super nice no doubt, but being able to bank in almost all city’s is nice also. The exp is noticeable in the hell lvl’s between the two. I liked gaining more exp as a gnome while lvling, but which ever flavor you like I guess. They both have there Cons and advantages. In classic at the moment no problems here lvling, I’m super casual only about 3-4hrs of play time since working 6 days a week. Level 29 using the lvl 24 pet doing just fine. Going to skip 29 pet most likely, have lvl 34 pet and CoB bought already.

[bwe]

This game is not difficult so minmaxing with an iksar and looking like a dumb lizard is not necessary

[Chocolope]

I currently have a L50 necro that I will reroll iksar.

[Vanessa]

Wow, I'm surprised Iksar isn't considered a must. I remember reading before people saying it wasn't even worth making a Necro if not Iksar and that you'd be better off as a Mage than a non-Iksar Necro. Happy to see that not everyone agrees with that though haha.

Alright then, if not Iksar... I guess its between Erudite, Gnome, and Dark Elf?

[Zeboim]

Gnome has wallhacks. Solid #2.

Pet classes in general are wildly OP in Classic. Ench and Necro are powerful regardless of race. Mage will be too once they get all their pets. Druids charming can be stupid powerful... hell even the Shaman doggo is relatively strong. NPC scaling vs Player scaling is total whack.

A lot of this is just because Melees before Kunark are pretty bad. Hence, while Iksar will stand far above other races for Necro - it's in an era where melee are able to compete because of gear and those extra bits of toolkit they get 50+.

[cd288]

Wow, I'm surprised Iksar isn't considered a must. I remember reading before people saying it wasn't even worth making a Necro if not Iksar and that you'd be better off as a Mage than a non-Iksar Necro. Happy to see that not everyone agrees with that though haha.

Alright then, if not Iksar... I guess its between Erudite, Gnome, and Dark Elf?

I wouldn't say it's a must, but the Iksar regen is definitely a huge boost for Necros. Not so much 1-50, but it's definitely noticeable in the 51-60 level range, especially while solo grinding that long road to 60 once you hit level 51. Are you going to be hugely hamstringed by not being an Iksar? Not at all. But as an Iksar you'll definitely love that regen at higher levels.

I suppose there's an argument that the lower Iksar downtime is somewhat offset by their XP penalty though, and that maybe it takes you just as long on an Iksar to level as it would on a non-Iksar. Would be interesting to see a data comparison lol

[Polycaster]

Iksar is by far the best race for a necro.

Necro is by far the best class in classic due to being able to solo most of the end game group camps.

In Kunark necros are not the best class as they can't solo any of the end game group camps, while other classes like shaman & ench can.

[flacidpenguin]

Iksar are the best necros but non iksar are still fine, they just dont have as good a regen at later levels. A non iksar will solo slightly slower.

[fadetree]

seriously, saying Iksar is the best race for necroes is true enough, *IF* you care about slightly faster potential for mana regen above all else, which is probably not worth caring about all that much. It's not like you have perma clarity or anything. Yes, it's better, but it's like saying one car is 'the best' because it goes 2-3 mph faster than the other cars while ignoring the fact that you will be hated by all cops if you drive the 'best' car. It's true, but maybe not all that important.

[kingpoiuy]

Gnomes are the best because I like them.

[vossiewulf]

I've always played DE necros and have never felt that Iksar regen was a requirement, and in fact the hassle of being an Iksar outweighed any benefit in my mind.

[Mirakk82]

Necromancer is great, just don't raid.

NEC raiding is pure cancer. /target cleric. Spam Subversion. Yay. Super immersive.

[Lordgordon]

Necro is easy mode class , playable naked until 50. Iksar makes it easier.

[Swish]

Necromancer is great, just don't raid.

NEC raiding is pure cancer. /target cleric. Spam Subversion. Yay. Super immersive.

Most raid roles can be summed up similarly.

[Krone90]

Most raid roles can be summed up similarly. Very True =)...Now the tank he gets to see the good action

[sentinel]

I mained an erudite necro from release to OoW. It was nice having high INT so I could invest in other items, like HP. Between that and being able to bank anywhere, I loved it.

No doubt regen is great for a necro, though. I'm tempted to roll one eventually just to see the difference from my erudite.

[GinnasP99]

Iksars can't wear golden efreeti armor, obv trash race.

[Arakash]

Wow, I'm surprised Iksar isn't considered a must. I remember reading before people saying it wasn't even worth making a Necro if not Iksar and that you'd be better off as a Mage than a non-Iksar Necro. Happy to see that not everyone agrees with that though haha.

Alright then, if not Iksar... I guess its between Erudite, Gnome, and Dark Elf?

Must is a strong word, but there are literal books written on this subject. Just type in sesserdrix necro or something close to that for further enlightenment.

I do like your question regarding the other necro races, erudite, gnome, dark elf, and human and if there is any hierarchy there. I've played human and erudite and I could not see any difference.
But I only played them to the mid 30's.

[tsuchang]

If you are gona be a gnome on green then you get to join the Grumpy Old Gnomes. Who would want to be a longstrider anyway.