Who is ready for a 3rd server?

[Visual]

Every high end camp is being perpetually camped now and most of the player base is still sub 40. This gonna get real bad.

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Brown PvP server

[YatilGoldenborn]

I think as they add the expansions, it'll work itself out though. I know when Kunark came out for real back in the day, things opened up significantly.

[Jamz Hopeslayer]

Every high end camp is being perpetually camped now and most of the player base is still sub 40. This gonna get real bad.

+1

[Danger]

Brown PvP server

[Jamz Hopeslayer]

Brown PvP server

It would be brown for sure.

[RipVanFish]

What kind of population did classic have during live? I feel like I remember seeing numbers as high as 1500 concurrent pre-Kunark.

[El-Hefe]

Honestly, if it was another standard ruleset PVE server I’d switch. 750 people seems like the sweet spot IMO. With the population on Green and Teal we could probably end up with three servers around 700 people at peak times.

Less drama, more fun. It won’t happen, but I’d probably be the first one to switch.

[Jamz Hopeslayer]

Honestly, if it was another standard ruleset PVE server I’d switch. 750 people seems like the sweet spot IMO. With the population on Green and Teal we could probably end up with three servers around 700 people at peak times.

Less drama, more fun. It won’t happen, but I’d probably be the first one to switch.

I would move as well. How likely is this going to happen though?

[LostCause]

Brown PvP server

[Tecmos Deception]

What kind of population did classic have during live? I feel like I remember seeing numbers as high as 1500 concurrent pre-Kunark.

Even saryrn was 1500 peaks in early kunark and it was the lowest (or nearly lowest) when I started there.

[LostCause]

What kind of population did classic have during live? I feel like I remember seeing numbers as high as 1500 concurrent pre-Kunark.

i know on ECI no mobs were every up it was a battle for xp

def wasn't like green release tho lol

[kaluppo]

Every high end camp is being perpetually camped now and most of the player base is still sub 40. This gonna get real bad.

Another server would not fix that. It would just thin out the player base making pickup groups harder to get and I guarantee the big item/cash camps would still be perma-camped on all servers.

Greed has always been part of the EQ culture unfortunately. It was bad on live in 2000, it was bad on Blue and it's bad on green/teal and likely to get worse. But at least it's classic :D

[Tecmos Deception]

Another server would not fix that. It would just thin out the player base making pickup groups harder to get and I guarantee the big item/cash camps would still be perma-camped on all servers.

Greed has always been part of the EQ culture unfortunately. It was bad on live in 2000, it was bad on Blue and it's bad on green/teal and likely to get worse. But at least it's classic :D

Yeah, pretty much this. You'd have to spread the pop so thin to get to the point where there aren't solos and duos locking down most of the valuable stuff most of the time that the rest of the world would look even less like live eq than the money camps do now.

[zillabunny]

Spolier alert it's the same people on green and teal camping them...

Shut down IP restrcitons on 2 servers and you'll fix part of the issue.

I know a few people with 40+ necros on both servers locking down the same spawn on both

[RipVanFish]

Spolier alert it's the same people on green and teal camping them...

Shut down IP restrcitons on 2 servers and you'll fix part of the issue.

I know a few people with 40+ necros on both servers locking down the same spawn on both

[this user was banned]

Spolier alert it's the same people on green and teal camping them...

Shut down IP restrcitons on 2 servers and you'll fix part of the issue.

I know a few people with 40+ necros on both servers locking down the same spawn on both

Anyone doing this is either RMTing or are just plain cancer.

[solleks]

Thou shall not judge nerds

[astuce999]

Honestly, if it was another standard ruleset PVE server I’d switch. 750 people seems like the sweet spot IMO. With the population on Green and Teal we could probably end up with three servers around 700 people at peak times.

Less drama, more fun. It won’t happen, but I’d probably be the first one to switch.

Only because I'd be busy donating again before switching. 700 at peak times can give a glimmer of hope of raiding content.

cheers,

Astuce

[vossiewulf]

Unless you find some honeypot that will make the problematic min/maxers and raid crowd stay behind, you're just delaying the inevitable with another server, unless you create several to the point that server populations are low enough so they can't keep everything camped.

It's highly unlikely to happen, but I used to work in the games industry where we did MMOs and I would have called much of this griefing and would be making some significant changes to looting to make much of what is happening unworkable. The EQ design as is didn't anticipate this situation and has insufficient defenses against small numbers of highly knowledgeable organized players monopolizing content and bending every rule possible to continue to do so.

[Swish]

Spolier alert it's the same people on green and teal camping them...

Shut down IP restrcitons on 2 servers and you'll fix part of the issue.

I know a few people with 40+ necros on both servers locking down the same spawn on both

Prove it

[SamwiseRed]

That is most definitely the case.

[Swish]

Also if they're releasing a pvp server it'll be the gold server - I've got this from a credible inside source.

[El-Hefe]

Also if they're releasing a pvp server it'll be the gold server - I've got this from a credible inside source.

It’ll be the vermillion server and you bes’ get used to it.

[nicemace]

Anyone doing this is either RMTing or are just plain cancer.

6 years of blue wasn't enough for you to figure that out? lol.

anyone who has played blue should know this is what it was going to be like. this shit was happening in classic on blue.

[bwe]

Without rotating the zems the new server will be the same, everyone in guk unrest and hhk no one in runnyeye

[Corbin]

Definitely, would like to see a third server.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Also if they're releasing a pvp server it'll be the gold server - I've got this from a credible inside source.

cant wait until i add my gold badge to my collection of red and green badges.

[TripSin]

I think as they add the expansions, it'll work itself out though. I know when Kunark came out for real back in the day, things opened up significantly.

that's like an entire year away though :(

[Ltldogg]

This is why I have not played on Green/Teal. EQ would be much better if they changed ZEM and loot tables to reward people for playing in low pop dungeons and outland zones. I'll keep waiting for this version of EQ before playing on a toxic server again.

[Kyff]

Every high end camp is being perpetually camped now and most of the player base is still sub 40. This gonna get real bad.

And what would people do on a new server? -> Make a lvl 1 toon and start in the newbie zones.
Anybody angered by high end content being camped can already make a new lvl 1 toon on Green/Teal and start in the newbie zones.
I don't see any difference.

[aaezil]

What happened to all the posts about how a new sever would fix all the problems of camps being locked down all the time?

[randal.flagg]

What happened to all the posts about how a new sever would fix all the problems of camps being locked down all the time?

THIS.

Also i'm not sure what high end camps you're talking about, but sol b has been consistently empty every morning for the last week.

CT is empty.

Lguk is empty.

Which "high end" camps are u talking about?

[azeth]

Greed has always been part of the EQ culture unfortunately. It was bad on live in 2000, it was bad on Blue and it's bad on green/teal and likely to get worse. But at least it's classic :D

I don't understand this perception that players occupying a space you want is "greedy". In fact I find you perceiving it as greedy, to be greedy. Those individuals are playing a video game the way they'd prefer - why should anyone be forced to do something they don't want to do when they're entertaining themselves?

TLDR - If you think someone is being "greedy" in EQ, you actually have a greedy line of thought in that you are entitled.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Spolier alert it's the same people on green and teal camping them...

Shut down IP restrcitons on 2 servers and you'll fix part of the issue.

I know a few people with 40+ necros on both servers locking down the same spawn on both

[stowned]

TLDR - If you think someone is being "greedy" in EQ, you actually have a greedy line of thought in that you are entitled.

is it greedy to want azeth back?

[Warioc]

I don't understand this perception that players occupying a space you want is "greedy". In fact I find you perceiving it as greedy, to be greedy. Those individuals are playing a video game the way they'd prefer - why should anyone be forced to do something they don't want to do when they're entertaining themselves?

TLDR - If you think someone is being "greedy" in EQ, you actually have a greedy line of thought in that you are entitled.

depends, if a solo necro is camping a spawn and therefore locking out a full group of none overpowered players that is greedy. Greedy is to not share, solo camping is not sharing.
Its even more annoying when these OP classes do this for drops that are primary ment for none OP classes (see melee)

[Siege]

I think as they add the expansions, it'll work itself out though. I know when Kunark came out for real back in the day, things opened up significantly.

Nah, Kunark just gives people more stuff to poopsock, which allows the poopsockers to spread out a bit.

Basically, you should never roll on any P99 server thinking that you will ever be able to camp anything semi-valuable. Nothing short of instancing will ever address the poopsocker question, and that ain't happening 'round here.

[TripSin]

Basically, you should never roll on any P99 server

[TripSin]

I'm on teal and lower level and still every good solo spot I try to go to is also almost always already camped. It's ridiculous.

[Bazia]

teal is completely dead 35+ i spent more time 35-45 than 1-35 easily

almost nothing is happening expwise in a group format

45+ gets a "little" better

[GinnasP99]

P99 Clear. Clicking enter world removes all Everquest files from your computer

[Cen]

teal is completely dead 35+ i spent more time 35-45 than 1-35 easily

almost nothing is happening expwise in a group format

45+ gets a "little" better

Thats fucking normal lol!

[Bannen]

Ready for another server! Both are too crowded!

[Bazia]

Thats fucking normal lol!

i spent 80% of that time LFG

[uygi]

Announcing P99 Essence Emerald!

A new Green server for those willing to sacrifice, it should alleviate some crowding issues.

To create a character on P99EE, you must sacrifice (delete)
-At least one Green or Teal character with a minimum level of 40 and a minimum of 10kpp in bank
-At least 2 lvl 60 characters on Blue, with epic (rogue/shaman epics do not count) and a minimum of 500kpp in the bank

[Zeboim]

You spend a lot of time LFG in that range because classic barely has any content after 35, and everyone crams into HHK anyways because its ZEM is fucking broken.

[uygi]

Plenty of 35+ content is being ignored, if the people LFG in an overcrowded spot or waiting on solo camps formed up they could go kill it. A low ZEM kill is 100% more XP than a high ZEM non-kill.

[Zeboim]

Nobody is going to run to Permafrost or Kedge to pick up group. It's not happening and is never going to happen. The game actively discourages it and the opportunity cost is too high.

You can spend 30 minutes running there and have your pug break up on death 1 (or tpk 1 for Kedge)... or maybe you wait in HHK or LGuk or SolB and get a revolving door group that will last until you want to leave. Which bet are you going to take if you're an unguilded melee?

[uygi]

if you're an unguilded melee?

Okay, I think I found the problem! If you're a non-solo class, and you're not developing some kind of network (friends, PUG cohort, guild) then... I guess you lose? I mean, at that point you're soloing in a social sense which might be almost as bad as straight up soloing.

A third server isn't going to help you make friends.

Also, KK and Perma aren't the only empty places. There are camps in SolA, SolB, LGuk, CT, Giants, guards etc that aren't consistently camped.

[lordpazuzu]

Green is no longer consistently sitting at above 1000 people at peak time, Teal is even less. It's not time to add a new server, it's time to think about merging them back.

[Hagglebaron]

“Teal is too crowded! We need a third server!”

“No Teal is too low pop, remerge them!”

I can only imagine what it’s like being staff on this project and having to deal with this stuff lol.

[Veeshan31]

“Teal is too crowded! We need a third server!”

“No Teal is too low pop, remerge them!”

I can only imagine what it’s like being staff on this project and having to deal with this stuff lol.

Its actually hilarious. I just checked the forums and the top posts are...
"Who is Ready for a 3rd server"
"Teal is Dead"
"Its time to merge"

[El-Hefe]

Green is no longer consistently sitting at above 1000 people at peak time, Teal is even less. It's not time to add a new server, it's time to think about merging them back.

There is zero upside to merging the servers.

My theory is anyone who thinks otherwise is high on prescription opiates and has no idea what they’re talking about.

[Frug]

I'm on teal and lower level and still every good solo spot I try to go to is also almost always already camped. It's ridiculous.

The solo spots are taken on a socially based MMORPG? Outrageous!