Thoughts on mega guilds?

[Rust1d?]

Red was pretty much wrecked due to a mega guild..similar is going on with Teal atm. Not sure why after what happened to Red there was not a limit put on the number of people a guild can have. Basically anything high end is perma camped.

Any thoughts on this aside from simply joining the mega guild?

[kaluppo]

What's the mega guild on Teal? All the big guilds I see talked about here are on Green.

[Bazia]

really dude you made a thread about <kingdom> its the only end game guild because teal pop is low and casual

[Expediency]

This problem may sort itself out if teal/green merge and we get <seal team> v <kingdom>

[Roth]

This problem may sort itself out if teal/green merge and we get <seal team> v <kingdom>

Would be nice. Kinda getting tired of my server not breaking 700 people at peak hours lately. Not really the fresh classic server experience I signed up for. Kinda getting nostalgic for a new tlp which I never thought would happen...

[YendorLootmonkey]

Each server should create their own alliance of guilds pre-merge, because you know post-merge green players and teal players are both gonna be like "who are these clowns, thinking they're gonna run the show around here on our server?" towards each other. Strategize now.

[Evia]

Each server should create their own alliance of guilds pre-merge, because you know post-merge green players and teal players are both gonna be like "who are these clowns, thinking they're gonna run the show around here on our server?" towards each other. Strategize now.

[Zeboim]

Please no, the raid scene on Teal is shaping up to be nice and relatively poopsock free so far.

[El-Hefe]

I’ve seen Kingdom as mostly benevolent overlords.

[Siege]

You're complaining about a symptom of Classic EverQuest's open-world design. Any MMO without instancing is inevitably going to be dominated by mega-guilds. Aside from opening a new server with instanced dungeons, nothing can be done to combat the zerg.

[Natewest1987]

I’ll say this much - the problem with these “mega guilds” is the entitlement that they breed, and with that, lack of actual consideration for anyone else’s play time.

[Tethler]

My interactions with Kingdom players so far has been limited, but also have not had any negative experiences with them.

[Rust1d?]

My interactions with Kingdom players so far has been limited, but also have not had any negative experiences with them.

Not calling anybody out. In fact everyone I grouped with so far has been great. But when people are in their 40s and lguk/solb are the only game in town, it will be interesting to see how everything is camped 24/7.

[Veeshan31]

Not calling anybody out. In fact everyone I grouped with so far has been great. But when people are in their 40s and HHK is the only game in town, it will be interesting to see how everything is camped 24/7.

FTFY

[hillgiantchamp]

At least Teal got a cool immersive name like Kingdom. Green zerg guild name is Seal Team. What are we playing a first person shooter? Some War game? FYI my favorite hobby is fishing mostly for salmon. I HATE SEALS! Always taking my fish! AAHH.

[uygi]

I don't see either server getting as crowded and poopy as blue was in any given era, but there will be at least some muted competition for mobs before too long.

Just watch what'll happen if anybody breaks the portal; smart move is gonna be to set up at NW, even though getting there will be messy...

[loramin]

everquest is zerg oriented until instances

You're complaining about a symptom of Classic EverQuest's open-world design. Any MMO without instancing is inevitably going to be dominated by mega-guilds. Aside from opening a new server with instanced dungeons, nothing can be done to combat the zerg.

Mostly this: zerg guilds are classic as fuck. Really the only unclassic thing is the exact size: I don't think pre-Kunark guilds ever got quite this big, but that's a classic environment, not mechanics issue.

That being said, all humans in systems behave according to how those systems lead them to behave. If Rogean starts punishing guilds for ____ this week, you can guarantee those guilds won't do _____ again next week (though they'll probably try doing it again in a few months).

My point is, Rogean could solve this extremely easily. He could limit guilds to a certain number and not let invites work after that. Raid zones could simply start zoning out every guild member after the Nth that enters. And there's probably at least ten other different options I'm too lazy to think up right now.

If Rogean wanted, he could make everything MUCH more about skill and playing the game well, and MUCH less about uber nerds recruiting as many other nerds as they possibly can to make things as easy as possible.

But again, the reason I think he'll likely never do that (or at least, not on Green/Teal) is ... zerg guilds are classic as fuck.

[Solist]

I left green due to shitlords in seal team autofiring afk, skipping people on lists.

And now pretty much given up on teal due to a few the scum sucking pieces of shit in kingdom doing the same.

Shame that super zergs can thoroughly fuck the gameplay experiences of others just by protecting their most scummy members.

/smallest violin and all.

[Fammaden]

I left green due to shitlords in seal team autofiring afk, skipping people on lists.

And now pretty much given up on teal due to a few the scum sucking pieces of shit in kingdom doing the same.

Shame that super zergs can thoroughly fuck the gameplay experiences of others just by protecting their most scummy members.

/smallest violin and all.

What camps are people autofiring afk on that you left the game over?

[aaezil]

Its a place for noobs who are bad at the game to zerg down content with zero risk. Always been attractive to your basic bad eq player since 99.

[Maker_Mayhem]

Solist, message me if you are being griefed by <Kingdom> members. I will enforce anything that can be substantiated with logs / pics and not just one player’s word vs another - but I do not want “elitist” mentalities here or griefers and I apologize if you’ve had any negative encounters. Overall, the majority of feedback I get is immensely positive from outside players.

Sincerely,

Arathorn,
Leader of <Kingdom>

[Nirgon]

really dude you made a thread about <kingdom> its the only end game guild because teal pop is low and casual

[kotton05]

Would be nice. Kinda getting tired of my server not breaking 700 people at peak hours lately. Not really the fresh classic server experience I signed up for. Kinda getting nostalgic for a new tlp which I never thought would happen...

Dude 700 in classic is too much what a snow flake

[ralyn]

I don't think Zerg guilds are classic, at least now when I played on Karana. There were 3 very powerful guilds (I was in one of them), and obviously many more "high-middle" tier guilds. But you know what WE did on Karana?? Every raid target was on a rotation. There was no poop-socking or Zerging into Fear to kite the zone just to rip CT or Dread, kill it and leave. The planes and everything was on rotation and when it was your turn, you went in, cleared the zone as a guild, spent some good time together and every able guild had an opportunity to kill a CT or Naggy, etc ...

I wish there was a rotation on this stuff instead of the batphones at 3am because Prog popped and there is a race between 2/3 guilds.

Just my 2.5 copper

[Zeboim]

Absolutely was Classic on Veeshan. The squabbles between FoH and assorted other contenders were intense.

There were a lot of different servers. Classic can vary between people.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Solist, message me if you are being griefed by <Kingdom> members. I will enforce anything that can be substantiated with logs / pics and not just one player’s word vs another - but I do not want “elitist” mentalities here or griefers and I apologize if you’ve had any negative encounters. Overall, the majority of feedback I get is immensely positive from outside players.

Sincerely,

Arathorn,
Leader of <Kingdom>

/applaud

[loramin]

I don't think Zerg guilds are classic, at least now when I played on Karana. ...

Absolutely was Classic on Veeshan. The squabbles between FoH and assorted other contenders were intense.

There were a lot of different servers. Classic can vary between people.

This. Classic was many things to many people, and the sad part of all of it is that if Rogean and Nilbog had just wound up on a live rotations server (like Karana) and not on a "competition" server (like Veeshan) ... we'd have probably rotations here today.

[Keebz]

if Rogean and Nilbog had just wound up on a live rotations server (like Karana) and not on a "competition" server (like Veeshan) ... we'd have probably rotations here today.

If we stay with the Green/Teal split, let's make one of the servers rotation (Teal) and one competitive (Green).

Players are happy and less support load for the p99 GMs.

[Whirled]

If we stay with the Green/Teal split, let's make one of the servers rotation (Teal) and one competitive (Green).

Players are happy and less support load for the p99 GMs.

Would be interesting to see the differences between players & server health if this became true.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Would be interesting to see the differences between players & server health if this became true.

If this whole project is a sociology experiment to begin with, that would be the logical next step. Look for nilbog and Rogean, Nobel Peace Prize winners in mid-2020s for groundbreaking work in human nature in online interactions.

[Fammaden]

All the people who didn't /move would lose their shit about not being able to choose rotation server. Did they ever even disable /move? Seemed like it was left open well over two weeks.

[cd288]

Mostly this: zerg guilds are classic as fuck. Really the only unclassic thing is the exact size: I don't think pre-Kunark guilds ever got quite this big, but that's a classic environment, not mechanics issue.

That being said, all humans in systems behave according to how those systems lead them to behave. If Rogean starts punishing guilds for ____ this week, you can guarantee those guilds won't do _____ again next week (though they'll probably try doing it again in a few months).

My point is, Rogean could solve this extremely easily. He could limit guilds to a certain number and not let invites work after that. Raid zones could simply start zoning out every guild member after the Nth that enters. And there's probably at least ten other different options I'm too lazy to think up right now.

If Rogean wanted, he could make everything MUCH more about skill and playing the game well, and MUCH less about uber nerds recruiting as many other nerds as they possibly can to make things as easy as possible.

But again, the reason I think he'll likely never do that (or at least, not on Green/Teal) is ... zerg guilds are classic as fuck.

There were definitely guilds that big in the pre-Kunark days and raiding was certainly a crap show at times. The difference was people didn’t have quite the same amount of knowledge about loot and drops, that these legacy items were going to go away eventually, etc etc; so you didn’t see these huge guilds also trying to monopolize every camp in the game which meant people didn’t focus on the guild size issue as much.

[ScottBerta]

If you want to raid the top mobs of vanilla, why not just join Kingdom? They seem cool as does their leader.

[Phaezed-Reality]

*snortles*

[welly321]

If you want to raid the top mobs of vanilla, why not just join Kingdom? They seem cool as does their leader.

the biggest downside is their raid times have been starting at 9pm EST. Even on Sundays. If your an employed east coaster, forget it.

[Millburn]

the biggest downside is their raid times have been starting at 9pm EST. Even on Sundays. If your an employed east coaster, forget it.

Start times are mostly a luxury of having no competition. That's gonna change in the future, especially with guilds like Lineage on the way up. I'm looking forward to it honestly, it's good to shake things up.

[dalton1981]

The timeframe is, but the experience isn't. When I/most people played, there was a constant flow of new toons to level with. Since i'm more casual and i started on green 1.5 weeks after launch. I only saw the tail end of the level wave and now most people are 30-50 with relatively few at lower levels. It was like a huge race started with all players starting at the same time. Without new people joining constantly (like there was on live), there's no new toons constantly leveling up. Just my two cents. I'm lvl 16 now, and I feel left behind and not engaged.

[bum3]

On Tunare we had 3 big guilds but only 1 zerg guild similar to Seal Team.. it was called Stars.. and GMs disbanded it and told them no more than 20 of them could be in a guild together ever again. No idea if it was enforced. I honestly thought it was racist since Stars was the only HK guild. But they blocked a lot of raiding and ks and trained raid mobs. But the other guilds did it too.. Stars was just better at it.

[Bellringer]

On Tunare we had 3 big guilds but only 1 zerg guild similar to Seal Team.. it was called Stars.. and GMs disbanded it and told them no more than 20 of them could be in a guild together ever again. No idea if it was enforced. I honestly thought it was racist since Stars was the only HK guild. But they blocked a lot of raiding and ks and trained raid mobs. But the other guilds did it too.. Stars was just better at it.

Vae Inimicus and Talisman were the top dogs of the server. Stars was definitely an Asian Zerg but don’t recall them mattering too much and never knew they were disbanded by SOE.. Tide was the Euro guild and also were meh.

[Bazia]

teal is going to be a one guild server for sure

[RipVanFish]

teal is going to be a one guild server for sure

I had a feeling Teal was going to be a bit lifeless compared to Green. Less overcrowding though I suppose.

[Nuggie]

would definitely feel irritated if teal went forced rotation and I wasn't allowed a chance to /move over.

Yendor, you playing on Green or Teal?

[YendorLootmonkey]

would definitely feel irritated if teal went forced rotation and I wasn't allowed a chance to /move over.

Yendor, you playing on Green or Teal?

Teal

[aaezil]

“Competition” aka staring at your screen for 16 hours and batphones is highly unclassic. Yes most servers had rotations. Maybe 1 or 2 servers had no rotations but those were mosty because only 1 guild could clear everything. P99 super unclassic and dissapointing for a lot of us who did play from 99-velious

[Asteria]

Red was pretty much wrecked due to a mega guild..similar is going on with Teal atm. Not sure why after what happened to Red there was not a limit put on the number of people a guild can have. Basically anything high end is perma camped.

Any thoughts on this aside from simply joining the mega guild?

PARTNER, if I hate my life enough and flush down toilet, I will join the Squeal Team 0s or equivalent on teal.

SOUNDS DANGEROUS!

[Mercius]

teels been great but if green teal combined would be less than 1.5k people they should be a single server

[Phaezed-Reality]

i don't even want to talk about red, because PTSD but let me assure you, as someone who hated the top guild. It was not a mega guild that killed it. And no, i won't tell you what did.

GL HF

[silo32]

i don't even want to talk about red, because PTSD but let me assure you, as someone who hated the top guild. It was not a mega guild that killed it. And no, i won't tell you what did.

GL HF

Pretty sure you were a non factor on red but I will spill the beans.

The server died when The staff on this project did a corpse recovery in a NO CSR zone. For the opposing guild who claimed they died due to a bug. When it was a carefully placed multiple wyrm spawn by PD door. Staff rezzed them up, and the wyrms were despawned. Resulting in a huge moral crush and that's when most of us packed up our bags and said yup, that's some bullllshit.

This is when red died.

Anything after this didn't matter at all. Including the sleeper kill.

[silo32]

double post just to be Clear here Phaezed Reality was a complete non factor on red.

[aaezil]

Pretty sure you were a non factor on red but I will spill the beans.

The server died when The staff on this project did a corpse recovery in a NO CSR zone. For the opposing guild who claimed they died due to a bug. When it was a carefully placed multiple wyrm spawn by PD door. Staff rezzed them up, and the wyrms were despawned. Resulting in a huge moral crush and that's when most of us packed up our bags and said yup, that's some bullllshit.

This is when red died.

Anything after this didn't matter at all. Including the sleeper kill.

Sounds like you are mad/bad and gave up when something you didnt like happened.

Poor baby

[Asteria]

double post just to be Clear here Phaezed Reality was a complete non factor on red.

Look at you....PATHETIC!!

[Rust1d?]

Want a peggy cloak? Nope. On lockdown.
Want a Oracle robe? Locked down.
Lots of stuff on lockdown. Shit, there was even a high lv kingdom dude farming orc belts in EC.

When newbie camps are in lockdown you know something needs to be done.

[Rust1d?]

If you want to raid the top mobs of vanilla, why not just join Kingdom? They seem cool as does their leader.

Because you would be on a list. Imagine being a cleric that is #20 for your dragon loot. That means you need to kill naggy 20 times minimum to get your item

[Grimgor]

Because you would be on a list. Imagine being a cleric that is #20 for your dragon loot. That means you need to kill naggy 20 times minimum to get your item

It's Seal Team that has a list or w/e. Kingdom is DKP with loot council on certain Raid items like Prayers of Life and epic pieces.

[drackgon]

Rust its dkp.. so like 90% raiding guilds out there..

[Rust1d?]

It's Seal Team that has a list or w/e. Kingdom is DKP with loot council on certain Raid items like Prayers of Life and epic pieces.


Loot council? Lol

[YendorLootmonkey]

Loot council? Lol

Gotta make sure your main tanks get geared first.

[Hazek]

devs please add instances and group finder.

[Solist]

The problem with both servers (I have a 50, and alts on both) is the insular nature of both shitty mega zergs.

Spam guild invites on random people in noob zones 6 weeks ago, and now only group with ‘those’ people. Never invite non guildies, duo/trio every camp, never try and interact within community. The whole reason of a new server is to spend bulk hours weeding out the bads and making lasting friendships. Teal for instance you can not group anywhere in a pug except highkeep as for no reason, kingdom only group with kingdom. I have 4-5 blue guildies and long p99 friends from the top end who are in Kingdom and are just amazed at the amount of outright terrible players they have.

Seal team is identical, just more malicious and entitled in general. You will 100% be trained out of a camp by seal team dudes if you step on their turf. 80% are really, really bad at eq. A few are legit brilliant, some top folk. Easy to give both a miss as classic raiding right now in both guilds is literally afk auto attack snooze Zerg to farm stoppers and scales.

[Solist]

Also grimgor and schtoppa are in kingdom and are legitimate the two worst people to have played a warrior in the entire projects history. I don’t know a single person who doesn’t have a horror story about how shit they are at eq during leveling up the first few weeks. Hyper zergs allow bads to hide in the crowd.

[Grimgor]

Also grimgor and schtoppa are in kingdom and are legitimate the two worst people to have played a warrior in the entire projects history. I don’t know a single person who doesn’t have a horror story about how shit they are at eq during leveling up the first few weeks. Hyper zergs allow bads to hide in the crowd.

So many haters for Kingdom lately. Maibben needs to stop making those alt forum accounts.

[Chocolope]

please let this go to RnF

/hugs for now

[Phillosopher27]

I mean this picture would suggest otherwise.

[TheDudeAbides]

You people have it easy

Classic Era Blue was way more hardcore than what you're experiencing now

Kingdom is the only guild I've ever seen in the history of P99 that has used Diplomacy and Sharing via player agreed to rotations (when on top) instead of being greedy wank stains.

People are older now and want to enjoy the game at a more laid back pace. The legacy of Blue from the first hardcore guild was nothing more than ego driven poopsocking that became a lust for pixels and RnF bragging rights

I'll be honest with you. I take great joy in seeing Blue a Ghost Town right now. All of that insanity for nothing because at the end of the day his toe slipped over a little. It's just a game, Man

[Chocolope]

You people have it easy

Classic Era Blue was way more hardcore than what you're experiencing now

YEAH. back on blu release we had to shit in two socks at once

[Maelstrom]

Also grimgor and schtoppa are in kingdom and are legitimate the two worst people to have played a warrior in the entire projects history. I don’t know a single person who doesn’t have a horror story about how shit they are at eq during leveling up the first few weeks. Hyper zergs allow bads to hide in the crowd.

Sounds like Solist stuck in Lameage.

Have fun killing FG's in 5 hrs bro.

[Rust1d?]

Not saying any of them are bad people, just that what, 70% of the server is Kingdom? They have everything locked down

[drackgon]

Agian not true. As I was in Lguk earlier we had Frenzy. Every other camp in Lguk was taken by non Kingdom group.. oh we had sent as well along with frenzy sorry. But I believe duo was at lord, Enc solo at king, Duo at AM, Some druid at elder.

[Canelek]

I can verify Kingdom has Beggar Wyllin locked down 24/7. Obviously top 70%.

[Bazia]

everyones in kingdom

[Myea]

Can also confirm. Kingdom has Emperor crush camped 24/7. They are selling Dwarven ringmail tunics for 500p each. Its not fair.

[drackgon]

Oh bout every camp.. Currently in SolB At Efreeti.. kingdom is only at Efreeti.. so rest of zone is open. Oh also didn't linege get Fire giants today? ;)

[Maelstrom]

Can also confirm. Kingdom has Emperor crush camped 24/7. They are selling Dwarven ringmail tunics for 500p each. Its not fair.

Sad troll attempt.

Tunics don't go for more than 200p on Teal.

If you're camping Crush 24/7 name and shame, cause you're bad at EQ.

[Chocolope]

Oh also didn't linege get Fire giants today? ;)

guna have to start raiding FGs with single group to keep up with lineage clear times

[Budder]

Did it ever occur to people that all these same targets would be camped or locked down regardless of guild tag? Those people are going to do it no matter what.
Also, I have seen and grouped with way more Lineage, Black Lotus and Kittens then Kingdom. I guess all those “terrible players” are all level 50 and camping emperor crush so I don’t see them.

[Richco07]

Kittens is a garbage tier guild full of bads.

[Rust1d?]

Agian not true. As I was in Lguk earlier we had Frenzy. Every other camp in Lguk was taken by non Kingdom group.. oh we had sent as well along with frenzy sorry. But I believe duo was at lord, Enc solo at king, Duo at AM, Some druid at elder.

So why is peggy cloak on lockdown? Literally a kingdom guy parked at every quill spawn point. Most of the real important stuff is locked. I guarantee nobody is getting naggy or box anytime soon.

[Tenderizer]

I’ll say this much - the problem with these “mega guilds” is the entitlement that they breed, and with that, lack of actual consideration for anyone else’s play time.

be the change you wish to see in the world, be the robin hood

[Grimgor]

So why is peggy cloak on lockdown? Literally a kingdom guy parked at every quill spawn point. Most of the real important stuff is locked. I guarantee nobody is getting naggy or box anytime soon.

It's not on lockdown. We've camped it as a group a few times is all. Also, one of our members, Harms, camps Groi pretty frequently and then informs people in the zone when Quillmane spawns. The free Quillmanes infuriates certain people for some unknown reason.

[Chocolope]

So why is peggy cloak on lockdown? Literally a kingdom guy parked at every quill spawn point. Most of the real important stuff is locked. I guarantee nobody is getting naggy or box anytime soon.

That's Harms, who is famous for doing the same shit on blue. Spawning QM over and over to give away cloaks, and give away lionhide backpacks from spawning Groi. I think he does sell the ring of shadows, so yeah total asshole keeping those needed rings in circulation like that.

[Myea]

That's Harms, who is famous for doing the same shit on blue. Spawning QM over and over to give away cloaks, and give away lionhide backpacks from spawning Groi. I think he does sell the ring of shadows, so yeah total asshole keeping those needed rings in circulation like that.

Yeah and Afeign, He goes back and forth between Emperor Crush and Scryler camp taking all the fat loots.

[drackgon]

God afeign soooo rude I heard he is stealing all the df pawns in ec he’s soooo evil:)

[Tuljin]

The problem with both servers is the insular nature of both shitty mega zergs.

Spam guild invites on random people in noob zones 6 weeks ago, and now only group with ‘those’ people. Never invite non guildies, duo/trio every camp, never try and interact within community. The whole reason of a new server is to spend bulk hours weeding out the bads and making lasting friendships. I have 4-5 blue guildies and long p99 friends from the top end who are in Kingdom and are just amazed at the amount of outright terrible players they have.

Seal team is identical, just more malicious and entitled in general. You will 100% be trained out of a camp by seal team dudes if you step on their turf. 80% are really, really bad at eq. A few are legit brilliant, some top folk. Easy to give both a miss as classic raiding right now in both guilds is literally afk auto attack snooze Zerg to farm stoppers and scales.

Amen brother

[Grimgor]

The problem with both servers (I have a 50, and alts on both) is the insular nature of both shitty mega zergs.

Spam guild invites on random people in noob zones 6 weeks ago, and now only group with ‘those’ people. Never invite non guildies, duo/trio every camp, never try and interact within community. The whole reason of a new server is to spend bulk hours weeding out the bads and making lasting friendships. Teal for instance you can not group anywhere in a pug except highkeep as for no reason, kingdom only group with kingdom. I have 4-5 blue guildies and long p99 friends from the top end who are in Kingdom and are just amazed at the amount of outright terrible players they have.

Seal team is identical, just more malicious and entitled in general. You will 100% be trained out of a camp by seal team dudes if you step on their turf. 80% are really, really bad at eq. A few are legit brilliant, some top folk. Easy to give both a miss as classic raiding right now in both guilds is literally afk auto attack snooze Zerg to farm stoppers and scales.

Kingdom is a mix of both experienced and inexperienced players; both in terms of raiding and EQ in general. There's nothing wrong with being inexperienced. As long as they listen and learn. Don't know why you're hating on a guild for not being elitist assholes, but you do you man.

As for always grouping with other guildies, of course we're gonna look to group with friends/guildies before looking for people we don't know. That's just human nature. I did the same thing before joining a guild on green/teal. I would always check friends list for replacements or when LFG before trying people I didn't know.

Also, one of the main benefits for doing guild groups is so we can do need before greed to get people geared. Sucks to be camping something like Yak/FBSS or whatever for hours and hours, finally have one drop, and have it go to someone who's just gonna sell it rather than someone who actually needs it.

[Richco07]

and have it go to someone who's just gonna sell it rather than someone who actually needs it.

You mean like selling it to someone who needs it so they can in turn buy something that they need instead?

THE AUDACITY!

You guys were unapologetically training n HHK again today. That doesn't make you look bad at all nope.

[Hazek]

Sad troll attempt.

Tunics don't go for more than 200p on Teal.

If you're camping Crush 24/7 name and shame, cause you're bad at EQ.

Tunic is worth about 1200p because of the resists and sometimes the guard drops fine steel which is great for powerleveling. But of course Kingdom always has it on lock including the taskmaster. Its like they never think that maybe some of us want a chance at the whip he drops too.

[Canelek]

Damn dude you sure whine a lot, on both of your forum accounts.

[Chocolope]

You mean like selling it to someone who needs it so they can in turn buy something that they need instead?

THE AUDACITY!

You guys were unapologetically training n HHK again today. That doesn't make you look bad at all nope.

MOAR HHK TEARS!!!!


you people crying about shit being on lock are in for a rude fuckin awakening when shit is actually on lock.

[Richco07]

MOAR HHK TEARS!!!!


you people crying about shit being on lock are in for a rude fuckin awakening when shit is actually on lock.

hurr hurr you crying hurr hurr

What are you, 12 years old? I wasn't the one getting trained, just watching shit heads like you do it to others.

[Kohedron]

Zergs are not classic. It ruins MY experience. Now things like /list and random turn in exp being gimped is extremely classic, and makes MY classic experience that much more classic.