reJoining Blue

[Kremlok]

Took a break and im returning.. i have a 45 monk but i am bringing my dad / brother / RL friend. I will be making a shaman to lvl up with them here is my question. Is Race that big of an issue? will it hold me back if i choose iksar and loose out on JBB? i am play 12+ hours a day and am disabled so im not worried about anything but end game. Look Forward to hearing from you all!

[Tilien]

Welcome back. I've heard that Ogres are the min/max choice for frontal stun immunity. That being said most end game shamans I've seen seem to be iksar and barbarian, maybe I have a biased sample.

Are your dad/bro/friend also playing 12 hours a day? If not will you be cutting ahead of them? Might want to consider how you'll be pacing the guy leveling with them and focus power gaming on someone you're free to play whenever. Just a thought. Welcome back again :)

[Kremlok]

Tyvm, I figure even if i pull ahead of them on the shaman, i can just sit out of group and heal them, Or i just play sham with them and continue trying to lvl the monk. i appreciate the advice! And thank you I'm excited to be back!

[ScottBerta]

JBB isn’t all that good tbh. Especially if you grouping. If you want Iksar go Iksar. Ogre is best race for Shaman but can’t go wrong with troll or Iksar either.

Cisco 60 Ogre Shaman

[kjs86z]

Took a break and im returning.. i have a 45 monk but i am bringing my dad / brother / RL friend. I will be making a shaman to lvl up with them here is my question. Is Race that big of an issue? will it hold me back if i choose iksar and loose out on JBB? i am play 12+ hours a day and am disabled so im not worried about anything but end game. Look Forward to hearing from you all!



edit: crap, there's a 4th. Oh well, do whateva.

(Was going to suggest all iksar necro / monk / shaman)

[Crede]

Krem you asked me this on my SK in HHK the other day lol.

Play what you want to stare it IMO. Everything else comes second. Jbb probably won’t make much of a difference in your situation you’ll probably be busy doing other stuff in that quad if I remember correctly Being the only healer/buffer.

Troll is the best shaman race IMO in 99% of situations. Regen, jbb, and snare necklace can come in handy. Having a clicky nuke is just too fun IMO to pass up, So I could never play iksar so I think in a way you do lose out if you don’t have it.

Good luck

[Troxx]

JBB isn’t all that good tbh. Especially if you grouping. If you want Iksar go Iksar. Ogre is best race for Shaman but can’t go wrong with troll or Iksar either.

Cisco 60 Ogre Shaman

This.

I’ve won a JBB on 3 separate occasions, played around with it, but then sold it. In the narrow focus on “end game” ... it doesn’t really have a place on raids where all the good stuff is. If by “end game” you mean high end solo trophy kills it has a place but smart minds have run the math showing that simply using your dots and managing health instead of lots of long chain clicks is every bit as good.

The 2 shamans I’ve personally witnessed soloing Ayliish in WW were Iksar (no JBB/FSI) and Barbarian (no FSI/Regen). Neither used strings ... just their spells and personal skill.

Play whatever race you want. JBB is a toy. It’s useful for sure 45-50 but at the high end it’s overrated.

[Tilien]

edit: crap, there's a 4th. Oh well, do whateva.

(Was going to suggest all iksar necro / monk / shaman)

Necro/monk/shaman/sk....

You get the OP trio and you get someone with one of the coolest 1hs weapons in the game to show off as a trophy.

[Master Roshi]

go SK/War/Shm/Shm and everyone runs ogres!

[Tilien]

go SK/War/Shm/Shm and everyone runs ogres!

4 ogres trying to fit through Unrest, mistmoore or any other "outside" dungeon where shrink isn't allowed. Literally unplayable. Lmao.

[kjs86z]

Necro/monk/shaman/sk....

You get the OP trio and you get someone with one of the coolest 1hs weapons in the game to show off as a trophy.

Yeah, just so many better 4 man compositions out there.

[Dman2701]

People who say Ogre frontal stun immunity isn't that big of a deal, obviously don't play an ogre shaman, having your spell interrupted is the difference between living and dying.
It's by far the best racial ability for a shaman, ogres allow you to use JBB which at level 45 is incredible overpowered, you will fly through levels with it.
It's even useful after you get your epic for finishing off mobs at low life instead of re-epicing it since epic damage starts very low and builds up.

On Blue starting all together isn't that big of a deal since it's quite easy to get ports around to anywhere

[Vexor777]

Ogres for the frontal stun immunity...or troll/iksar for the hp regen.

[Crede]

People who say Ogre frontal stun immunity isn't that big of a deal, obviously don't play an ogre shaman, having your spell interrupted is the difference between living and dying.
It's by far the best racial ability for a shaman, ogres allow you to use JBB which at level 45 is incredible overpowered, you will fly through levels with it.
It's even useful after you get your epic for finishing off mobs at low life instead of re-epicing it since epic damage starts very low and builds up.

On Blue starting all together isn't that big of a deal since it's quite easy to get ports around to anywhere

Can anyone speak about FSI since the latest patch? To my understanding one of its biggest advantages was nerfed, being able to actually channel through bashes vs now just being immune to frontal stun.

Either way, in a 4 man comp, FSI means nothing. Troll wins all day here. JBB isn't necessary, but free dmg clickies make shaman play a lot more fun IMO.

[Kremlok]

Huge Ty to you all for being such a great community of people! just giving u all a update I made a iksar got it to 15! and Then hated it lol, I loved the look etc... but i was geting stund so much i deleted him and remade a ogre... Even if FSI doesnt continue my spell casting, i got so frustrated being bash stund i decided to roll ogre! gonna relvl and get to 60.. Ty all so much and hope you guys are having a great day!

[Kremlok]

Update, So glad i went ogre just hit lvl 26! so excited for when i can afford a fungi / JBB. Thank again Everyone And Hope you all are having a great Time! If anyone ever needs a hand just / all krem on blue and ill try to help in anyway i can!