Grats Rot - Rubi BP

[Dreenk317]

guildy was at rubi BP camp tonight, #1 on list is asleep or AFK when BP drops, it rots.

I know that they are now off the list, because there item dropped, and they are also probably locked out for a week like they had looted the item. But why is this allowed to happen? Why not implement a ready to loot check when the item drops, they have 1 min to click yes, otherwise the list moves on to the next person. Something to make sure a legacy item, from a potentially excruciatingly long camp doesnt just rot....

[Madbad]

Imagine NOT rotting rubi BPs in 2019

[Nirgon]

Poured out a lil apple juice n liquor

The grief of custom EverQuest surely knows no bounds

[gnomishfirework]

No, would lead to slot selling. Let it rot.

Unless didn’t apply to jboots camp. Just rubi/manastone? Might work.

[aaezil]

Maybe a sign from god to stop wasting your life there?

[zillabunny]

No, would lead to slot selling. Let it rot.

Unless didn’t apply to jboots camp. Just rubi/manastone? Might work.

You can just sell the item...

[Swish]

wouldn't happen on the teal server

[Jimjam]

wouldn't happen on the teal server

[vossiewulf]

Imagine NOT rotting rubi BPs in 2019

I can't imagine people worrying at all about Rubicite BPs in 2019, much less the ongoing deranged obsession. They're not even the top armor for very long, as I recall as soon as Kunark comes out they're old and busted.

[Tecmos Deception]

I can't imagine people worrying at all about Rubicite BPs in 2019, much less the ongoing deranged obsession. They're not even the top armor for very long, as I recall as soon as Kunark comes out they're old and busted.

I doubt there will be enough fungis, iksar BPs, class armor chests to replace all the rubicite BPs until like... Velious.

[Dreenk317]

wouldn't happen on the teal server

was on teal

[Cen]

Are you sure? Bad things don't actually occur on teal. Its the utopia server

[Octopath]

That is awful but that’s the way it goes I guess. Imagine how shitty the guy must feel who was afk when his item finally dropped.

[skorge]

That is awful but that’s the way it goes I guess. Imagine how shitty the guy must feel who was afk when his item finally dropped.

This is why I hate the /list. It literally removes what made EQ so fun in 1999. This would have never happened on real classic. Grrrrrr. Not the guy's fault who went afk it's the /list's fault. Remove /list and the game will be restored. It's not too late!

[Tilien]

This is why the AFK timer needs to be tightened. 2 minute AFK check. Person would have failed the AFK check and then this wouldn't have rotted.

All these people claiming to shower in 5 minutes are lying anyway and just not showering, let them be honest about living in their own filth (or using screen sharing software with friends to camp it).

[bum3]

Yo.. I have a new list proposal... everyone on list gets the item when it drops... IE 6 people on list and it drops 6. In order to loot it you have to heal someone killing it or dmg it yourself, as in get flagged for the mob. Add a 6 month lockout. This way you only get 1 per character. Yeah. Problem solved for everyone but that one guy on teal who has listed 4x already and sold 3 bps.

[bbsmitz]

This is why I hate the /list. It literally removes what made EQ so fun in 1999. This would have never happened on real classic. Grrrrrr. Not the guy's fault who went afk it's the /list's fault. Remove /list and the game will be restored. It's not too late!

As a level 17 who'll never camp any legacy items I have no dog in the fight either way, but if this was the case wouldn't the top guild simply lock up the camp until the items stopped dropping? Not sure that's fun for everyone else.

[Kron]

As a level 17 who'll never camp any legacy items I have no dog in the fight either way, but if this was the case wouldn't the top guild simply lock up the camp until the items stopped dropping? Not sure that's fun for everyone else.

Yes if there was no list a few more hardcore players have said they would lock that sh** down so hard that you would have to buy from them if you want X item.

Even with non list camp's I've already found groups of 2-3 players who are working in rotation holding down the spots for a good 12-14 hrs per day.

[Fragged]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsY0J5SkQz8

[bum3]

Yes if there was no list a few more hardcore players have said they would lock that sh** down so hard that you would have to buy from them if you want X item.

Even with non list camp's I've already found groups of 2-3 players who are working in rotation holding down the spots for a good 12-14 hrs per day.

Yeah. This is so common. Make all legacy items no drop. Fix this in a heartbeat. #notclassic but it's for the betterment of p99 civilization.

[YendorLootmonkey]

if this was the case wouldn't the top guild simply lock up the camp until the items stopped dropping?

Yes. And this is exactly what people who want /list to go away want. Do not for a second believe their motives are based on purity of classicness.

[Jean-Baptiste Cutting]

This is why I hate the /list. It literally removes what made EQ so fun in 1999. This would have never happened on real classic. Grrrrrr. Not the guy's fault who went afk it's the /list's fault. Remove /list and the game will be restored. It's not too late!

So Seal Team and Kingdom can lock down the camp until the items are removed? Great idea Skorge.

[MasterCS]

Yeah. This is so common. Make all legacy items no drop. Fix this in a heartbeat. #notclassic but it's for the betterment of p99 civilization.

This. It’s such an easy fix, yet won’t be done because it’s “not classic”, when in fact there are PLENTY of non-classic things implemented.

[silo32]

don't let skorge fool you he hasn't played on this server in years he is one of those forum trolls that just want people that continue to play this server to suffer

lots of people like that around here...weird fucking guys man

[gkmarino]

Wow imagine being ready to kill the named spawn or PH when you're #1. So hard to look at the time and predict a static spawn? MEGA OOF!

[skorge]

So Seal Team and Kingdom can lock down the camp until the items are removed? Great idea Skorge.

Better than what it is now, tbh...at least then people like me could buy one. This is all under the assumption they would remove the nerfed drop rate of the manastone itself. If manastones were dropping with classic drop rates, even with a guild poop socking it, it would be a better outcome than the /list + nerfed drop rate combo.

Also, the /list removes a freedom from us - the reason why EQ was successful and all other mmorpgs have failed including EQ2. Having no list is in the spirit of EQ. We are now being forced to participate in something if we want to camp any of the legacy items.

In my eyes the /list function is a total fail. I don't care what anyone else thinks. That is my opinion on the matter. I don't care if guilds poop sock it. Now that's classic. I dealt with that in 99, I dealt with that in 09, I can deal with that now.

I have zero intention on poop socking any item myself but if people or guilds want to do that, then so be it. All I know is if player A has 30 manastones my chances of actually buyone one goes up 10 fold. Right now there are going to be very few manastones for sale, like ever here.

Wanted to add too that my odds of getting one with this /list are actually lower than without one. I can't poopsock an item for 70 hours straight and I don't want to share my account with anyone. If a guild was poop socking a camp at least there would be small gaps in between of getting a spot.

[skorge]

don't let skorge fool you he hasn't played on this server in years he is one of those forum trolls that just want people that continue to play this server to suffer

lots of people like that around here...weird fucking guys man

I'm weird because I haven't played here in a few years? I hate to see your definition of normal, lol.

[Madbad]

I'm weird because I haven't played here in a few years? I hate to see your definition of normal, lol.

What is wierd is that you still waste your mental energies here even though you dont play.

Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you.

[Tecmos Deception]

Better than what it is now, tbh...at least then people like me could buy one. This is all under the assumption they would remove the nerfed drop rate of the manastone itself. If manastones were dropping with classic drop rates, even with a guild poop socking it, it would be a better outcome than the /list + nerfed drop rate combo.

Also, the /list removes a freedom from us - the reason why EQ was successful and all other mmorpgs have failed including EQ2. Having no list is in the spirit of EQ. We are now being forced to participate in something if we want to camp any of the legacy items.

In my eyes the /list function is a total fail. I don't care what anyone else thinks. That is my opinion on the matter. I don't care if guilds poop sock it. Now that's classic. I dealt with that in 99, I dealt with that in 09, I can deal with that now.

I have zero intention on poop socking any item myself but if people or guilds want to do that, then so be it. All I know is if player A has 30 manastones my chances of actually buyone one goes up 10 fold. Right now there are going to be very few manastones for sale, like ever here.

Wanted to add too that my odds of getting one with this /list are actually lower than without one. I can't poopsock an item for 70 hours straight and I don't want to share my account with anyone. If a guild was poop socking a camp at least there would be small gaps in between of getting a spot.

My man.

[Siege]

guildy was at rubi BP camp tonight, #1 on list is asleep or AFK when BP drops, it rots.

I know that they are now off the list, because there item dropped, and they are also probably locked out for a week like they had looted the item. But why is this allowed to happen? Why not implement a ready to loot check when the item drops, they have 1 min to click yes, otherwise the list moves on to the next person. Something to make sure a legacy item, from a potentially excruciatingly long camp doesnt just rot....
Why didn't somebody loot it and give it to him when he woke up?

[Erati]

Why didn't somebody loot it and give it to him when he woke up?

No one but #1 can right click a list item corpse when the item drops.

[Bardp1999]

Can't wait for the Fungi King camp, that's the spot where real mental illness is highlighted.

[stewe]

Your guildie was afk long enough to not help with the kill and also for the body to rot, grats rot, well deserved loot

[Cen]

there should not be a list , worst idea ever

what you need is a pvp list

basically people kill eachother till theres only a few left then they get the loot

well thats how we did it on rallos

What's funny is on Rallos, we kind of didn't do it that way. When it came to camps and stuff, people had reputation and we sort of had our own laws. People with enough bad rep labeled as player killers would be killed on sight by everyone working together. It was weird that we had "PKers" on a PvP server.

There would be isolated incidents of camps taken by pvp force but usually vengeance came with enough witnesses.

[Buellen]

So not exactly same item BUT

it does have the weird variance in drop rates.

over 2days i spend 5 to 6 hours total for my boots with 2 boots dropping in a row in front of me. one enchanter after me spent only 2 hours to get his boots and a poor warrior spend 6 hours more before he finished 36 hours over various days to get his.

The list from short experience seems to work. Yes i was lucky in my short camp vs that poor warrior. The variance can be long but range is a b#tch sometimes on this sever <shrug>

Ps never plan to do mana stone camp here it just not worth it to me.

[skorge]

What's funny is on Rallos, we kind of didn't do it that way. When it came to camps and stuff, people had reputation and we sort of had our own laws. People with enough bad rep labeled as player killers would be killed on sight by everyone working together. It was weird that we had "PKers" on a PvP server.

There would be isolated incidents of camps taken by pvp force but usually vengeance came with enough witnesses.

This. If a pvp server could work together on item camps why can't we? I know there are a few greedy people out there, but I am confident our server could work together on these 3 camps.

In the first few days, we all formed lines and waited our turn for the Thex Dagger quest. At this point in time it was considered an epic item (we all didn't know when the quest would get removed).

On Red we all were respectful of each other when it came to the manastone camp and other camps. People basically let each other camp the manastone.

I think the problem here on Green/Teal is that nobody trusts each other, not even the devs. Nobody wants to give us a chance. I believe we can make it work. I'm not trying to sound cheesy but I honestly feel we, as a server, can make these camps work.

There are already server rules set up, if we follow these and then put a special agreement together (like a few camps on blue) I feel we don't need the list, on all 3 camps.

I feel like this should have been approached earlier in the cycle and an in-game script/function should not have been the solution. It's just not in the spirit of EQ to force these things on players. We all love EQ because of no restrictions. It's one of the only games where you can drop a level 50 item on a level 1, for example. This is no different then putting a level requirement on an item.

[greenspectre]

Grats Bladefrenzy on the Rubi BP. Took it from beyond the grave.

[Fammaden]

Seems like working as intended, dude didn't get the item, still gets locked out so he can't relist. The list moves on to the next person and if the guy was being a mooch then he got what he deserved.

The only reason to care is "omg but the BP ROTTED THE PRECIOUS BP"...guess what that guy selling or hoarding that one BP of many isn't going to mean jack shit to you in a week much less in five months, and none of these items really mean jack shit to anyone in the grand scheme of things. Keep plugging away to get one by all means but spare us the righteous indignation over your pixel idealism please.

[RipVanFish]

This. If a pvp server could work together on item camps why can't we? I know there are a few greedy people out there, but I am confident our server could work together on these 3 camps.

In the first few days, we all formed lines and waited our turn for the Thex Dagger quest. At this point in time it was considered an epic item (we all didn't know when the quest would get removed).

On Red we all were respectful of each other when it came to the manastone camp and other camps. People basically let each other camp the manastone.

I think the problem here on Green/Teal is that nobody trusts each other, not even the devs. Nobody wants to give us a chance. I believe we can make it work. I'm not trying to sound cheesy but I honestly feel we, as a server, can make these camps work.

There are already server rules set up, if we follow these and then put a special agreement together (like a few camps on blue) I feel we don't need the list, on all 3 camps.

I feel like this should have been approached earlier in the cycle and an in-game script/function should not have been the solution. It's just not in the spirit of EQ to force these things on players. We all love EQ because of no restrictions. It's one of the only games where you can drop a level 50 item on a level 1, for example. This is no different then putting a level requirement on an item.

Do you seriously think Seal Team wouldn’t have the camps on lockdown? You are dreaming man.

[Tilien]

Do you seriously think Seal Team wouldn’t have the camps on lockdown? You are dreaming man.

They already try to have other camps on lock down, sometimes to fleece prospective members with item requirements.

So no... I do not think that guilds that attempt to monopolize money/item camps would ever try to monopolize manastone camps. They'd be waaaay too busy monopolize net camps for that. /s

[derpcake2]

Do you seriously think Seal Team wouldn’t have the camps on lockdown? You are dreaming man.

Given how successful the TMO move to red was, I don't have a single doubt that red players would destroy Seal Team.

1 group of pvp veterans vs a 60 person raid, raid won't have the slightest chance.

[RipVanFish]

Given how successful the TMO move to red was, I don't have a single doubt that red players would destroy Seal Team.

1 group of pvp veterans vs a 60 person raid, raid won't have the slightest chance.

I was just speaking on green, I’m sure pvp would be fine with no list feature.

[Izmael]

I pray all gods for the next iterations of P99 classic servers to not have any legacy items dropping at all.

[Haynar]

Those random spawn timers will get you every time.

[Ivory]

Should create an NPC some day....wearing all the rot items to have every rotted....the great rot king! Back from the dead!! Wearing the items of the dead!!!

And his army? Made of the PC bodies that were left to rot away.

[Haynar]

Multiple people were waiting hours for the item and it rotted, if you think this is working as intended you have brain rot. There should never be any kind of list.

What should it be? Hit level 50. Login.

“You have item waiting for you. Type /claim to receive your free Manastone!”

If it were a real camp. You go afk. Miss the spawn. Do you have any claim on the item? It rotted. So they would have missed the engage by more than 8 minutes. Guess what? Camp has named up for almost 10 minutes. Pretty much ffa.

Don’t be afk at #1 when spawn is due.

[Batso]

You snooze, you lose.

[Erati]

You snooze, you lose.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8MrLZP_agwE

[Erati]

roll at corpse when it rots, camp as a raid

and please make it 10x more rare, no one is supposed to "Camp" a manastone

its a special item .001 % of players had on retail

Participated in Manastone camps on live.

Friends had em, offered to help me, spent some time in Lguk got several then moved on.

Nothing outrageous to camp them at all, semi rare drop from uncommon mob.

[Dreenk317]

Your guildie was afk long enough to not help with the kill and also for the body to rot, grats rot, well deserved loot

Grats on not having reading comprehension? My guildy was in line, not number one. The person in number one slot was afk when item dropped and it rotted. Everyone else had to sit and watch it rot with no other option.
But good try, not everyone has good teachers.

[Phaezed-Reality]

My question is how is he afk hitting the afk checks and doesn't loot the corpse yet he is checking the afk boxes?

I know the answer to this and how its done. Just posing the question that actually matters here. Not the rot, not the people who are mad about the rot, how was he passing the afk checks, are you telling me he passed all the AFK checks and then in the span of a few minutes went afk and it rotted?

more like something smells rotten if you ask me.

[Dreenk317]

My question is how is he afk hitting the afk checks and doesn't loot the corpse yet he is checking the afk boxes?

I know the answer to this and how its done. Just posing the question that actually matters here. Not the rot, not the people who are mad about the rot, how was he passing the afk checks, are you telling me he passed all the AFK checks and then in the span of a few minutes went afk and it rotted?

more like something smells rotten if you ask me.

I dont know, I do know, that according to my guildy the guy had said he was passing out. And that the last afk check was about 10 minutes before it dropped. So the person either passed that last afk check, or didnt get kicked from the list because the next afk check didnt come till after it had rotted. And you dont get kicked till the next afk check, after the one you failed to respond too.