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GigasLugian
12-20-2019, 03:26 PM
I decided to roll a necro, either Gnome or Human. I know gnomes have higher int starting, but humans have more hp/overall stats and I kinda know their starting area. I don't think I've ever been around Gnome starting area.

Can someone explain the hate aspect that necros get? Like, what cities are off-limits the entire game? I know you can do quests or turn ins to increase faction at certain places. Also, how hard is it to deal 50% dmg to a mob so you get full exp?

Any tips greatly appreciated!

Cen
12-20-2019, 03:54 PM
Human necros are the least hated across the board, with gnomes and erudites pretty close as well. Always /consider things

50% isn't too tough on necro from mid levels on

flacidpenguin
12-21-2019, 08:14 AM
Past like level 12 I never had a problem out damaging my pet. Or just duo.

BlackBellamy
12-21-2019, 09:48 AM
Can someone explain the hate aspect that necros get?

I don't like you either.

https://i.imgur.com/QsYsgwz.png

Fireblade7
12-21-2019, 02:08 PM
Past 12, it’s dot dot fear, send in pet at 50%, med. full exp. 8- 12 I just killed skeletons mostly and used ward undead and got full exp most of the time.

I’ve never played a gnfome before and Looking. Through walls is pretty fun.

Tecmos Deception
12-21-2019, 02:15 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Sesserdrix%27s_All_in_One_Necromancer_Strategy_Gui de

EQBallzz
12-21-2019, 07:16 PM
Tip for a brand new necro? Roll up an alt now and start collecting necro items for your Iksar necro when Kunark is released.

Balimon
12-22-2019, 04:14 AM
Tip for a brand new necro? Roll up an alt now and start collecting necro items for your Iksar necro when Kunark is released.

C'mon man that's not the advice people are looking for. Kunark is 11 months away.

Madbad
12-22-2019, 04:18 AM
Gnome for wall hax and tinkering

Vormotus
12-22-2019, 05:18 AM
Gnome for wall hax and tinkering

https://i.imgur.com/Q9jpXLF.jpg

arkylady
12-22-2019, 05:48 AM
Tip for a brand new necro? Roll up an alt now and start collecting necro items for your Iksar necro when Kunark is released.

I would have by far preferred an Iksar, that's the only necro I ever played and they are the best imo. However, I'm not waiting almost a year to play a necro either :p

vossiewulf
12-22-2019, 06:13 AM
I think there is too much stress on getting 50% dam. For white and yellow cons, ok, you're going in full fangs out and are dropping everything on them that you can, since you're going to use a lot of mana regardless, might as well go all in and make sure you get 50%. But with blue cons I always do what I call (capitalized of course) the Fastest Sustainable Kill Rate where I try to find the best combination of pet and spell dam to kill with as little downtime as possible and not worry as much about doing 50%.

I find that does the best for me when I'm trying to exp. But like someone upstream said, that's also less of an issue from mid 20s on, your spells do relatively more dam and you're in more zones where everything is agro so you'll tend to park your pet somewhere and will be dragging snared mobs some distance before your pet even has a chance.

Swish
12-22-2019, 06:34 AM
The first 11 levels are tough, level 12 you start to feel your power a bit more.

Also, for your pets... if you can find a halberd, scythe or 2h sword early on - that'll help your pet's dps <3

Pyrocat
12-22-2019, 10:49 AM
Read the pet guide on the wiki. Then re-read it.

Read this, it's basically the necro bible:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Sesserdrix%27s_All_in_One_Necromancer_Strategy_Gui de

Also, how hard is it to deal 50% dmg to a mob so you get full exp?

If you're going to be killing the same type of mob for a long time (treants, city guards etc) take the time to figure out exactly how little mana you can use to get a mob to < 50% health. Then, in future fights, cast those dots and send your pet, but don't kill the mob until all of your dots have worn off. This is the most efficient way to max the value of your pet without worrying about losing xp to it.

For example, for hill giants:
Turn pet taunt off. Pull with boil blood (longest duration), pull it to where you want it, send pet, wait for pet to take aggro, cast dooming darkness, cast venom of the snake to pull aggro off pet and aggro kite it, cast vampire dot to regain lost hp from lich form. With full duration dooming darkness, boil blood, venom of the snake, and vampire dot you should have done just over 50% damage. By that time the (unhasted) pet should have it down to ~15-20% hp so let the pet finish it off but not before boil blood runs out.

gnomishfirework
12-22-2019, 11:49 AM
buy bone chips now while they are cheap

EQBallzz
12-22-2019, 12:25 PM
C'mon man that's not the advice people are looking for. Kunark is 11 months away.

How do you know what advice people are looking for? I'm actually following that exact advice myself. I really wanted to make a necro but decided I just can't bring myself to create an inferior necro which is what the options are now.

I know some may say play what you want and that is fine if aesthetics, role playing or something else is more important to you but I don't think it's in dispute that Iksar necro > all other necros with their OP racial regen.

It's also not a trivial matter to level a character to max level so the real question is are you good with spending that much time to level a character knowing that it will always be lacking when compared to an Iksar? If the answer is yes then by all means knock yourself out. I would love to create a gnome necro but not so much that I want to give up on Iksar regen.

Let me put it another way for your consideration. When Kunark expansion releases are you going to be excited to play with the new content that comes out? Are you going to want to partake in the new Iksar classes that will be available and play in the Kunark zones? If the answer is yes are you going to be disappointed that necro isn't an option really because you already leveled another necro? I don't know that I will play continuously until Kunark releases but even if I don't I may start playing again when it does and I will be happy to have the option of Iksar necro as a character choice.

Sorry you don't like my advice but that doesn't mean it's not valid! :D

Balimon
12-22-2019, 01:04 PM
Sorry you don't like my advice but that doesn't mean it's not valid! :D

Your advice is fine when Kunark is out or close to being out. Right now? Not so much.

RipVanFish
12-22-2019, 01:54 PM
Your advice is fine when Kunark is out or close to being out. Right now? Not so much.

I have to agree. Holding off on making a necro for 11 months when you want to play one now...I mean if power gaming is that important to you go for it I guess. There’s too much of it on this server imo though, just my 2C.

EQBallzz
12-22-2019, 02:43 PM
Your advice is fine when Kunark is out or close to being out. Right now? Not so much.

The advice doesn't make any sense once Kunark is out. If Kunark was out the advice would just be to roll an Iksar necro. Not the same advice.

I have to agree. Holding off on making a necro for 11 months when you want to play one now...I mean if power gaming is that important to you go for it I guess. There’s too much of it on this server imo though, just my 2C.

It might not make sense for some (and that is fine) but a lot depends on the person creating the necro. How much will they play? How much will it bother them to not have the most powerful racial for their class? How interested will they be in leveling a Kunark era character when it's released? Is the person only going to play one character or do they plan to have alts?

For instance, if you know you also want to level a shaman and you have an interest in leveling up a Kunark era character it makes sense to just level the alt now and then level your main later. That's what made sense to me and I'm not even sure how much I will play tbh.

Not saying this advice is good for all but worth consideration for some.

TheDudeAbides
12-22-2019, 03:36 PM
The advice doesn't make any sense once Kunark is out. If Kunark was out the advice would just be to roll an Iksar necro. Not the same advice.

What content can an Iksar Necro do that a Non Iksar Necro cannot