Do pets eat xp?

[Hawkwood]

Sorry if this is already posted somewhere but on Green/Teal do pets take xp? If so how much and is there a formula?

[Somekid123]

If your pet does 51% of the damage you lose 50% of the experience, UNLESS you are grouped then the penalty goes away. This effects all classes including charming.

[cubiczar]

If your pet does 51% of the damage you lose 50% of the experience, UNLESS you are grouped then the penalty goes away. This effects all classes including charming.

I haven't done significant testing but it feels more like 90% of the exp not 50%. Either way though it is a lot of xp loss if you aren't out damaging your pet.

[Cen]

Mages and Necros are wonderful duo partners :p

[Hawkwood]

If your pet does 51% of the damage you lose 50% of the experience, UNLESS you are grouped then the penalty goes away. This effects all classes including charming.

Thanks! That helps a ton.

[Dolalin]

Yes they will eat 50% of xp if they do 51% of the damage to a mob, solo.

They are also supposed to take a share if any individual pet does 51% of the damage in a group situation. Evidence here:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338377&highlight=Pets+experience

[cd288]

I haven't done significant testing but it feels more like 90% of the exp not 50%. Either way though it is a lot of xp loss if you aren't out damaging your pet.

It's not 90%. It may seem like that because we don't have the blue line on the EXP bar yet, so it's kind of tough to gauge how much EXP you received. When you lose have the EXP on the kill, the yellow bar is barely going to move at all (depending on the level, it will look like it didn't move whatsoever). Much easier to tell when you have that little blue bar moving a lot more.

[loramin]

Yes they will eat 50% of xp if they do 51% of the damage to a mob, solo.

They are also supposed to take a share if any individual pet does 51% of the damage in a group situation. Evidence here:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338377&highlight=Pets+experience

Yes, after the initial classic period. But originally at launch pets didn't steal XP ever, right?

It was my understanding that our classic servers unclassically correct this as an exploit?

[Dolalin]

Yes, after the initial classic period. But originally at launch pets didn't steal XP ever, right?

It was my understanding that our classic servers unclassically correct this as an exploit?

There were people talking about pets stealing XP right after EQ launch, I dug them up before. It has always been the case that they've stolen XP.

They only stopped stealing XP waaaaaay later on in the PoP days after changes to nerf charm / Dire Charm. Regular pet classes were given a break.

[Somekid123]

They put the penalty in due to back in 2009/10 of blue server mages would park their pet on a low blue con it could solo and regen back to full health before repop to get exp while sleeping.

[Benanov]

They only stopped stealing XP waaaaaay later on in the PoP days after changes to nerf charm / Dire Charm. Regular pet classes were given a break.

Yeah, early days of PoP the ideal 'solo' situation for charmers was to find a really bored tradeskiller/roleplayer/friend and 'duo' with them in places like Plane of Nightmare.

The second player sitting there doing nothing (literally nothing) caused the pet to not steal any XP, and so the xp rate was higher due to the pet not stealing xp and the small group bonus.

[Dolalin]

The second player sitting there doing nothing (literally nothing) caused the pet to not steal any XP, and so the xp rate was higher due to the pet not stealing xp and the small group bonus.


The link I posted has evidence that directly contradicts this.

Pets ate a share of xp. All pets, if they did 51% of damage, whether in group or solo. Solo the share was 50% of xp, and in group the pet took a share as if the group had an extra member.

They nerfed it simply due to the extreme xp/hour and DPS of charmed mobs.

[Benanov]

The link I posted has evidence that directly contradicts this.

Pets ate a share of xp. All pets, if they did 51% of damage, whether in group or solo. Solo the share was 50% of xp, and in group the pet took a share as if the group had an extra member.

They nerfed it simply due to the extreme xp/hour and DPS of charmed mobs.

The XP share was so small that it really was the most efficient way to 'solo'

[Dolalin]

The XP share was so small that it really was the most efficient way to 'solo'

Maybe on p99. But in classic, we are talking about 50% vs 33%. An improvement but still a significant penalty.

[loramin]

There were people talking about pets stealing XP right after EQ launch, I dug them up before. It has always been the case that they've stolen XP.

They only stopped stealing XP waaaaaay later on in the PoP days after changes to nerf charm / Dire Charm. Regular pet classes were given a break.

Gotcha. TIL ...