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Numbers_
04-28-2011, 03:03 PM
Hi,

I'm new to this server. I played back in 99 (cazic-thule server) from launch until about 1 month after kunark released. I was a Half Elf Paladin and enjoyed the game quite a bit, but always envied other classes especially the monk.

Anyway more than a decade later I have another chance to play one so I thought I'd give the monk a shot. The problem is I really want to play a Iksar, but I also want to relive the old school world (especially Unrest).

Is it feasible to make a newbie Iksar and bring him over to the old world at a fairly early level? My main goal is to get to unrest as early as possible (level wise).

I don't really have a clue how to get there from the lizard world. I guess I could ask for a port, but will the people at the spires kill me when I appear? Where would I bank? Who near unrest could I sell too? Anyone else done this?

Thanks for your help.

baalzy
04-28-2011, 03:07 PM
Butchblock, Steamfont and Gfay port-ins are all safe. You can sell at the merchant in Steamfont druid rings (I don't know if BB has a merchant, but could sell there too). You can be bound anywhere in Gfay, so someone could bind you at the zoneline to BB in Gfay.

You'd be screwed for banking on Faydwer though. The gnomes in Ak'anon might tolerate you, but I doubt it. The dwarves/elves definitely would not.

I'm not sure where in old-world Iksars are capable of banking.

quellren
04-28-2011, 03:18 PM
Is it feasible to make a newbie Iksar and bring him over to the old world at a fairly early level? My main goal is to get to unrest as early as possible (level wise).
I don't really have a clue how to get there from the lizard world. I guess I could ask for a port, but will the people at the spires kill me when I appear? Where would I bank? Who near unrest could I sell too? Anyone else done this?

Thanks for your help.

By the time you can really level in unrest (12-14) you can escape the newbie zones fairly easily. As far as getting lost, theres a ton more resources on the internet now than in 2000. Use the maps (http://www.tapr.org/~OutridersKarana/kunark/kunark.html). You should have little trouble getting a port to BB or Gfay once you get to a port location or a boat. Only some spires/rings have NPC's that would attack you. Neither BB or Gfay are. You can be bound in Gfay, just like any troll, ogre, or Dark Elf.
You can sell to the poison merchant on the island, just like everyone else.
You can't bank in Kelethin or Kaladim, without alot of faction work in CB, but that's not any different than any other evil race.

Quite honestly, even though you don't really suffer from any more difficulty getting to Unrest than any Ogre or Troll, you have Kurns literally on your doorstep... why waste that?

Desert
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
As far as my memory serves, my ikky monk was kos in all cities except cab before doing faction work. I would look forward to hours of factioning.

If you're wanting a sell location only in that area, try butcherblock. Run past whichever kos mobs are standing by your vendor, flop behind the vendor. When they path back pop sneak and as long as you're behind him he'll buy/sell from you.

Llabak
04-28-2011, 03:41 PM
I grouped the other night with an iksar necro in Unrest. I think he was around 15 or so, so it's clearly doable. Dunno any of the details about his banking and stuff though.

Swish
04-28-2011, 03:56 PM
You'd be screwed for banking on Faydwer though. The gnomes in Ak'anon might tolerate you, but I doubt it. The dwarves/elves definitely would not.

I'm not sure where in old-world Iksars are capable of banking.

My troll had the same problem, I even managed "warmly" with the Kelethin/Felwithe guards but the bankers were on a different faction.

All you can do is stand outside a city and ask if some passer by heading in is banking and would they mind swapping their PP or GP for your small change. Give them a cut, usually they are very welcoming :)

Numbers_
04-28-2011, 05:57 PM
Helpful advice everyone, thanks.

I think i'm going to try and get my freeport faction up and just take the boat back to bank. Anyone have any idea how long something like that would take from scratch? I've found guides on how to do it, but never a time estimate. Just trying to see what i've gotten myself into here ;)

Kanz
04-28-2011, 09:35 PM
I wouldn't bother factioning with Kelethin via Crushbone. You're only going to be low level for a little while. When you move to Sol A in your 20s, you start non kos with the guards in Neriak (only have to watch out for necro/rogue guild unless you killed cb orcs). Doing the wine quest with like 2 bags full of wine gets you up to warmly with vendors/bankers there.
Also a few hours on orcs in High Hold Pass gives you the rep you need to run around freeport giving you monk trainers and vendors (bandages + throwing weapons) and the closest bank to EC tunnel.

Silverain
04-28-2011, 09:45 PM
I took my monk to Fay at level 6 as iksar. By 8 I could turn in belts/pads in Kaladim, and could bank in Kaladim by 10. I'm warmly in 3 cities, not counting Ak'Anon, and can bank in one of them. So, it's definitely doable and easier at lower level because of CB bein decent from 6+.

guineapig
04-28-2011, 10:08 PM
I can think of quite a few beta-neutral merchants at your disposal.

The poison vendor in DC.
Druid rings in SF.
Druid rings in BB.
2 High Elf vendors, 1 by the docks, 1 near the aqua goblins.
There might be a few more that I'm missing.

Ashane
04-28-2011, 11:05 PM
my iksar necro is warmly with the guards and indifferent to the banker in Kaladim from killing orcs in gfay/cb up to lvl 14 or so. the only NPC you have to watch out for in Kaladim is a wood elf to the left of the opening gate... but if you zone to North Kaladim by going right and then zone back to South from the bank, you can reach the CB belt turn-in guy with no trouble.

i would highly recommend getting a port from kunark (beg or pay someone on your main to pickup.. i ran my iksar to DL outside the yeti cave), as my iksar was kos to everyone on the docks in the OT (live & undead).

good luck leveling your iksar in the old world.. it's not as much of a pain as you might think.

whippetofspades
04-28-2011, 11:52 PM
My Iksar Necro is apprehensive with the guards and merchants outside of Oggok, without having done any faction work. Not sure if monks would be too.

Reptak
04-29-2011, 01:04 AM
Making a monk, right? Sneak to merchants and once you get FD at 17 you can FD at banks. Sell everything and buyback gems to use as currency. You probably won't need to bank too much early on. Have a blast, monks are a lot of fun.

gnomishfirework
04-29-2011, 02:08 AM
Get non-kos with dwarf guards (fairly easy to do) and then buy a bunch of cb belts, get an invis and turn in those belts (drop invis before you do, the turn-in NPC is on dwarf guard faction).

That should make you able to bank, I think. Con the banker first to be safe.

guineapig
04-29-2011, 07:58 AM
My Iksar Necro is apprehensive with the guards and merchants outside of Oggok, without having done any faction work. Not sure if monks would be too.

That seems a tad odd... but then again I can't remember for the life of me how my iksar necro factions were way back then.

Numbers_
04-29-2011, 03:38 PM
Well, after researching the game mechanics a bit more I'm going to have to pass on the Iksar Monk.

I had NO IDEA the experience penalties effect the whole group. Whoaaa. Glad no one knew about that back when I played my Paladin on live. Not to mention -20% experience is just too harsh for me personally to handle. At least I can rule out bard as a possibility also (was a close second choice for class).

Man, that makes me feel bad about holding back my non-hybrid buddies back in 99 that I grouped with everyday. Wow. Not ranting, just honestly shocked. Poor Troll/Iksar Shadowknights, holy s---!

Anyway, I'm sincerely grateful for the information. Maybe it will help someone else who wants to visit the old world as a Iksar.

Rasah
04-29-2011, 03:53 PM
Well, after researching the game mechanics a bit more I'm going to have to pass on the Iksar Monk.

I had NO IDEA the experience penalties effect the whole group. Whoaaa. Glad no one knew about that back when I played my Paladin on live. Not to mention -20% experience is just too harsh for me personally to handle. At least I can rule out bard as a possibility also (was a close second choice for class).
Nobody is going to not take a monk in their group because it's an iksar. They'd rather have an iksar monk killing things fast than a high elf wizard sitting on his butt casting once a mob.

And don't worry about a silly 20% penalty. It's not a race to the finish line, and besides that, once you get to max level, you'll have an iksar monk with regen and innate AC instead of a human monk.

Do what you want, but don't let the exp penalty scare you off. It's not like it will take you twice as long.

Numbers_
04-29-2011, 04:52 PM
Good point about the "journey not the destination". Solo wise, the regen might make up for some of the loss with decreased downtime.

I'm having a lot of trouble leaving kunark though. I can't seem to find anyone to port me over. I tried to walk, but got lost and barely made it back alive. Red con mobs everywhere!

If anyone is bored tonight and doesn't mind porting me over and binding me, I would be grateful. I'll throw in some plat if you want. I have 20pp I would be willing to part with thanks to selling bone chips.

Gris
04-29-2011, 05:18 PM
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Game_Mechanics#How_Experience_Works

Read this and you'll see that experience penalties being shared with the group is not as big a deal as you seem to think it is.