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eisenfaust
04-30-2011, 04:58 PM
but I thought it was alot harder to see at night in classic EQ if you were a blind race or didnt have a lightstone. For some reason I remember my monk not being able to see at all at nightime back in day, or is it just now that computer screens are brighter ?

EvilMallet
04-30-2011, 05:00 PM
but I thought it was alot harder to see at night in classic EQ if you were a blind race or didnt have a lightstone. For some reason I remember my monk not being able to see at all at nightime back in day, or is it just now that computer screens are brighter ?

Are you running on a Vista machine? EQ has the habit of blowing your brightness way up when you run the game.

Vendar
04-30-2011, 05:04 PM
but I thought it was alot harder to see at night in classic EQ if you were a blind race or didnt have a lightstone. For some reason I remember my monk not being able to see at all at nightime back in day, or is it just now that computer screens are brighter ?

you are correct, night time for human based (human, erudite, barb) was all horribad.

im not sure on the others, and im pretty sure that it was killed with with changes that allowed players to make adjustments to gamma/brightness.

on p99 my gnome has infravision and when i lich i get ultravision. its a noticeable difference so the vision enhancements do indeed work, however i still haven't had a humanoid type toon on p99 so i cant say just how bad it is/was/shouldbe

eisenfaust
04-30-2011, 05:08 PM
yes Im running vista.

Swish
04-30-2011, 09:02 PM
I once rolled a dark elf wizard... dark elf only because my eyes were streaming from having the monitor brightness up so high on my main - ultravision really was a godsend :D

Fuzzi
04-30-2011, 09:20 PM
It could be a client thing, I know titanium is weird with its hardcoded things.

Mcbard
04-30-2011, 10:54 PM
I think back in the day most people just didn't know that turning their gamma to 11 would basically give any race the ability to see well at night. In fact I'm not even positive there was an in game gamma control way back then, I can't remember.

Now the first thing someone would most likely do when encountering the night or something that is hard to see would be to tweak their gamma and make it more workable.

Ralexia
05-01-2011, 12:10 AM
The titanium client is a lot brighter than the older clients. The Shards of Dalaya server is really dark compared to this and thats on a luclin or PoP era client.

Also there's this weird bug where you'll gain ultravision even if you're a blind as a bat human/erudite. It cycles on and off but its on enough.

I'm so glad its this way too. Turning up the gamma allows you to see well but it also makes the game look way shittier than it already is.

Gorgetrapper
05-01-2011, 12:13 AM
I remember it was near impossible to run the blackburrow tunnel from halas as any race without some type of vision enhancement or light source (before you memorized it).

utenan
05-01-2011, 12:33 AM
The game was much darker..... I remember hiding at inn 1 in EC, not being able to see very far, and being afraid of the ambient sounds : D Also itmes that gave off light were slightly useful. I have noticed, though, that when I run eqemu it turns my monitor's brightness up. First noticed this when I went to play minecraft and could see well at night. I have to restart my comp to get the regular brightness, happens on every computer Ive played on.

jimm0thy
05-01-2011, 12:44 AM
The game was much darker..... I remember hiding at inn 1 in EC, not being able to see very far, and being afraid of the ambient sounds : D Also itmes that gave off light were slightly useful. I have noticed, though, that when I run eqemu it turns my monitor's brightness up. First noticed this when I went to play minecraft and could see well at night. I have to restart my comp to get the regular brightness, happens on every computer Ive played on.

This glitch has been around in EQ for years. Its due to the way EQ handles gamma adjustment and the player not properly closing the client. I use to have this happen to me constantly when I would just X out of the game , however I've never had this happen doing a /camp desktop.

Ruinous
05-01-2011, 12:53 AM
I remember it was near impossible to run the blackburrow tunnel from halas as any race without some type of vision enhancement or light source (before you memorized it).

This. For real. That tunnel hated me.

moklianne
05-01-2011, 12:32 PM
I remember it being near impossible to get out of Surefall Glade at night as a human without a light source. As a complete newb, I didn't realize that Druids could summon a light source at level one. I guess there was a reason they put that in so early.

toddfx
05-01-2011, 04:00 PM
Yeah the wide range of gamma correction really leaves no excuse not to see well at night.

However I have actually gotten used to playing the game without the added gamma. The shift in brightness in overall monitor brightness really annoys me, as I often like to watch Netflix in the background and this gamma shift destroys the image quality. Not to mention I enjoy the deeper contrast in EQ, even the dark zones. It adds some immersion back into the mix!

I find it strange though that 0% gamma isn't the same as "off" but actually SUBTRACTS gamma from the game and entire desktop. It seems to me like 26% or so makes my background desktop appear normal.

Kharzette
05-02-2011, 02:53 AM
Back when eq came out nobody really cared about gamma correction really. It just meant "brighter", but games nowadays try to match the gamma curve of monitors and tvs. They are mostly the same, though older macs are different.

It seems like as a human when I first log in I sometimes get the original EQ darkness, then when the next hour tics over it goes sort of half ultravision.

I agree for sure about the richness of the colors as a human.

More info on games and gamma if you are curious:

http://www.technofumbles.com/weblog/2011/01/21/intuition-for-gamma-correct-rendering/