View Full Version : Worth the time to make an "intelligence suit" to raise tradeskills?
goldlush
04-08-2020, 08:39 PM
As a bard, if i wanted to take the time to raise brewing and tailoring for say, the coldain ring or shawl, would it be worth it to farm an intelligence suit of a 70ish bonus to intelligence or would the skill gain bonus be negligible? Has anyone ever done this on a traditionally not intelligence class?
Jimjam
04-09-2020, 02:56 AM
I just embrace the ‘throwing money away’ aspect if tradeskills by raising smithing skill on shuriken or javelin combines. This way I can throw my money away in the most literal sense possible.
goldlush
04-09-2020, 03:20 AM
I'm having no trouble raising my smithing because I have a high strength, but when I do not smithing skills it will obviously use intelligence for gains such as pottery, tailoring, and brewing. I am wondering if it's worth the time to throw together making an intelligence suit to help with skill gains, if anyone has any experience.
At least if p99 goes by what eq traders has: http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/article_page.php?article=g256
Baler
04-09-2020, 10:38 AM
Tradeskills are almost entirely platinum sinks. That being said... If you plan to do any tradeskill work determine the core stat. As you know and said already STR for Smithing. So for smithing you want to get to 250 str when you're training smithing. It helps, it really helps to get the skill's core stat as high as possible.
The stat has no affect on success/failure but on skill gain chance.
Int or Wis which ever is cheaper/easier for your class. Bard I presume int is the goto.
I've even gone as far as keeping an int or wis set in my bank.
My priest classes I pump up wisdom, my caster classes I pump up int. I may be repeating myself sorry.
loramin
04-09-2020, 10:49 AM
The stat has no affect on success/failure but on skill gain chance.
This is true, but I should note (in case you, or anyone reading this, tradeskilled on live in classic) that the reverse is unclassically not true. On live, your tradeskill success had no impact on your chance of skilling-up on that attempt (it didn't matter if the trivial level of what you made was 20 or 200: as long as it was above your skill you had the same chance of skill-up). This was widely known by the tradeskill community ... until it changed at some point ... and P99 bases itself off the changed mechanic
Unfortunately no classic researcher has ever dug up proof of how classic tradeskilling worked (likely because the obvious place to find it, EQTraders.com, blocked the Wayback Machine, so there's no way to see old tradeskill forum posts). As a result, it's important to understand that here (again, unlike live) you want to always make the recipe with the lowest "trivial" level, that isn't actually trivial for you, because that will give you a greater chance of success and thus a greater chance of skill-up.
Lartanin63
04-09-2020, 08:16 PM
I have a full suit of wis gear for my paladin for doing shawl tradeskills. It seems to help and be worth it. You can find reasonable items that atleast give you a boost. Don't really need bis int gear. Can always ask for enchanter buffs before you start crafting as well.
goldlush
04-09-2020, 10:15 PM
I appreciate the valuable input. Thank you. It sounds like it's worth it if I'm going to be doing multiple trade skills, but not so much if I'm only going to do one.
ChooChoo Train
04-10-2020, 06:47 AM
the amount of time spent gathering a cheap int suit VS the time saved leveling trade skills is very noticeable.
kitao
04-10-2020, 02:05 PM
I bought one for a monk to do thurg pot and was like ok.
Then tried to do on a rogue without a crafting suit and was like - I need a crafting suit.
Muggens
04-11-2020, 10:50 PM
Some the tradeskills are dex based no? Or am i thinking of poison making...
Droxx
04-14-2020, 11:44 AM
Some the tradeskills are dex based no? Or am i thinking of poison making...
Fletching definitely is dex.
magnetaress
04-16-2020, 07:16 PM
its fun to run around with max int and then go vendor all the stuff u did with max cha, and then buy new mats with max cha, definitely worth it imo
jolanar
04-28-2020, 07:07 AM
All tradeskills will use int or wis for skill ups. Most skills have an additional stat that can be used IF it's higher. Strength for Blacksmithing, Dex for Tailoring and Fletching, etc.
If you are an int/wis caster you are going to be better off using your primary stat and not bothering trying to get the secondary stats higher than your wis/int.
elwing
04-28-2020, 07:40 AM
All tradeskills will use int or wis for skill ups. Most skills have an additional stat that can be used IF it's higher. Strength for Blacksmithing, Dex for Tailoring and Fletching, etc.
Wrong, int/wis work on all teadeskill, but most tradeskills don't use any other stat, in fact there's only 3:
* smithing use the highest between int/wis/str.
* fletching use the highest between int/wis/dex.
* poison making use the highest between int/wis/dex.
No other tradeskill use an alternate stat, it's just int/wis for most of them.
mefdinkins
05-01-2020, 12:54 PM
I was going to try to get up brewing to 248 or whatever max is for 9th ring quest on my monk with 79 intelligence - I gave up at 152 and despised working on the skill. I'd have to swap out bags, move items out of my bank to traders, and take forever to get a skill up.
Then I started working on tradeskills on my wizard (255 int) and saw it was a lot easier. I maxed brewing (one of the more straightforward but carpel tunnel inducing trade skills) in a few days.
Since then I've gotten JC up, have three characters who have done the coldain prayer shawl quests (mostly a crafting skill check) and five characters who have 9th or 10th ring (requires some skillups). For druid/enchanter/wiz I made sure to have 255 int or wis. For other classes I made sure to pick up some cheap +INT items to make the journey smoother. If you're only trying to get a skill to 80 or just make a couple throwing javelins - not really a need. If you're trying to skill things up to mid 100's or beyond, it's def. worth it.
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