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Broor
04-29-2020, 01:48 AM
Hey guys,
I'm a 40 DRU on Green and one of my best buds(EQ noob that started on green launch with me) is playing a 39 WAR. We've gotten his crafted armor done, he's rocking an axe of the slayers (we've got an enchanter buddy playing with us so I thought that the haste from the exe axe was wasted on top of ENC haste), and I feel like his gear is mostly in order except for equipped haste.
I feel like the Swirlspine isn't the solution we're looking for at 16% for 8.5k, when we could get a Mithril 2hs at 31% Haste for (optimistically) 7.5k. Also, Mithril 2hs still dominates classic ratios (pre-raiding). My concern, however, comes with how much the value of the Mithril 2hs tanks come december when Kunark arrives. Therein lies the value of the FBSS (15-16k), which at 21% maintains its value much better post-expansion. Any recommendations from the vets? My thought is that with the Mithril 2HS he's sitting pretty until December, and then a TBB could fill that waist slot nicely, but I've never mained a warrior before... We've saved enough for the sword but not the FBSS.
Thanks ya'll,
Broor

BlackBellamy
04-29-2020, 01:27 PM
Allow me to whip this out https://wiki.project1999.com/Belt_of_the_Four_Winds

Broor
04-29-2020, 01:47 PM
That's incredibly badass but we're as casual as you can possibly imagine, not sure if we'll ever see the planes (sadly)! I guess the question is, do I buy the sword now and potentially lose the investment when kunark hits and we get him properly weaponized, or save for the FBSS which he'll likely continue to use for the duration of our time on the server?

Alphablue
04-29-2020, 02:53 PM
FBSS due to the versatility of using different weapons, especially as a warrior. Don't lock him into the Mithril 2-Hander just to re-spend the plat later when he needs to use other weapons.

Broor
04-29-2020, 02:55 PM
Oh yeah if he switches to his aggro weapon set instead of DPS he'd gain no benefit! Appreciate the advice, looks like we've got some more plat to farm haha-

Vexenu
04-29-2020, 06:25 PM
FBSS will hold value much better. Mith 2h is still a good weapon even in Kunark actually, but not a great one. And with each passing day once Kunark drops the market will be absorbing more and more very good Kunark weapons, which will put downward pressure on the Mith 2h price. But the FBSS has no Kunark equivalent. In fact, demand for it might even spike in Kunark given the inevitable surge of Iksar Monk twinks. I'd go FBSS for the long-term investment. It will remain a very liquid and valuable item for the entire life of the server.

Broor
04-29-2020, 06:35 PM
FBSS will hold value much better. Mith 2h is still a good weapon even in Kunark actually, but not a great one. And with each passing day once Kunark drops the market will be absorbing more and more very good Kunark weapons, which will put downward pressure on the Mith 2h price. But the FBSS has no Kunark equivalent. In fact, demand for it might even spike in Kunark given the inevitable surge of Iksar Monk twinks. I'd go FBSS for the long-term investment. It will remain a very liquid and valuable item for the entire life of the server.

Excellent advice, thanks Vexenu-

Jibartik
04-29-2020, 11:50 PM
If you have to wait until kunark to afford the FBSS but can get the mith2h now Maybe consider that, because you've now kind of got diminishing returns on that fbss with all the plat you had to farm without haste!

Mith 2h will take a warrior well into kunark for DPS to be totally fair, especially casually.

It is also a bad ass sword :o

But I agree with Vex overall, if you can save up after just a couple of weeks between your group, get the FBSS!

Broor
05-07-2020, 09:54 PM
OK Boys I got the job done, FBSS purchased, but now I have need of your collective bro wisdom. We've got an enchanter with 50% haste, which stacks with 21% FBSS, so is it now more effective DPS for our 40 WAR with his damage bonus of five to wield two EBWs at an effective ratio of 7/12 or his axe of the slayers at 23/28? Aggro not much of an issue, thanks again-

Videri
05-08-2020, 01:01 AM
Really good job raising funds for your warrior's FBSS. It's cool to see a small team put that kind of teamwork into play.

I just saw this thread and was thinking you should go with the sash because then he could use any weapons and still have that 21% haste. I'm glad you chose it instead of the Mith 2-hander.

It sounds like you're casual but you have plans and goals. We could use players like you in the <Castle>. Feel free to ask any Castler to refer you to an officer if you're interested in learning more.

kaizersoze
05-09-2020, 08:40 PM
FBSS will hold value much better. Mith 2h is still a good weapon even in Kunark actually, but not a great one. And with each passing day once Kunark drops the market will be absorbing more and more very good Kunark weapons, which will put downward pressure on the Mith 2h price. But the FBSS has no Kunark equivalent. In fact, demand for it might even spike in Kunark given the inevitable surge of Iksar Monk twinks. I'd go FBSS for the long-term investment. It will remain a very liquid and valuable item for the entire life of the server.

I mean theres sash of the dragonborn. But its only 2% more haste. and im sure Howling Stones is gonna be a real FUN zone right away lol

Lartanin63
05-11-2020, 01:18 PM
I'd continue to use the axe, the str dmg sheild buff it procs causes agro and is most likely better dps with the stacked haste.

Broor
05-11-2020, 01:21 PM
Thanks Lartanin, through a little testing it seems like the only clear cut advantage of the fast one handed weapons is immense melee push, nice when fighting casters. The proc from axe of the slayers still seems incredibly useful and he hits like a truck!

Kirdan
05-11-2020, 04:10 PM
swirlspine is all you need to hit the haste cap with enchanter

Lartanin63
05-11-2020, 04:15 PM
What race is the warrior broor? If he has slam I wouldn't worry to much with the push. Plus if enchanter can help with interrupt, he can just lay the hurt. Should let him try sitting in crippling mode and see how he does with haste and the axe plus the crips.

Broor
05-11-2020, 04:52 PM
(Unfortunately) He's a human warrior, so no slam. We rolled on launch day and it was impossible for me to get his barbarian warrior to Qeynos through BB, thus we all rolled humans so we could charge those decaying skellies together! I thought about Swirlspine Kirdan but we duo often enough (without our Enchanter) where I thought it would be nice to have the 21% when it's just the two of us. Crippling blows are absolutely insane, prior to getting the FBSS we were aggro kiting ice giants and he hit a couple 240 damage crips :0