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Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 06:10 PM
I have a 45 Ranger on Blue, slowly working on a Bard and trying out a Shadowknight as well, but I see that there's more people on Green.

Would it be worth my time to play on Green instead of Blue and just start over?

loramin
05-29-2020, 06:12 PM
What do you want?

No, serious question: you've seen what Blue is like. Does the idea of starting over in a similar game, but in a more classic environment, with content released in patches, appeal to you?

If not, are you hurting for finding a group on Blue, and does the idea of a more populated server, with less places for people to go (making it easier to find a group) appeal to you?

If the answer to either question was yes, go make a Green toon and see what you think :) If not, I'm not sure what you'd gain.

Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 06:16 PM
What do you want?

No, serious question: you've seen what Blue is like. Does the idea of starting over in a similar game, but in a more classic environment, with content released in patches, appeal to you?

If not, are you hurting for finding a group on Blue, and the idea of a more populated server, with less places for people to go, making it easier to find a group, appeals to you?

If the answer to either question was yes, go make a Green toon :) If not, I'm not sure what you'd gain.

1. A Beer.

2. Not really, not if the gear available is going to be absolute junk compared to what's available for twinking in Velious.

3. No, finding a group isn't particularly hard, and soloing actually seems to be better on Blue these days because there isn't so much competition for hot spots, like Sisters in Lfay.

Baler
05-29-2020, 06:19 PM
quit blue, make an erudite and join DMO

Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 06:20 PM
quit blue, make an erudite and join DMO

If I play anything on Green it'll either be a Half Elf Bard or a Wood Elf Ranger.

loramin
05-29-2020, 06:21 PM
2. Not really, not if the gear available is going to be absolute junk compared to what's available for twinking in Velious.

3. No, finding a group isn't particularly hard, and soloing actually seems to be better on Blue these days because there isn't so much competition for hot spots, like Sisters in Lfay.

I think you just answered your own question then :D

1. A Beer.
https://i.imgur.com/vZlMrQ7.gif

Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 06:22 PM
I think you just answered your own question then :D


https://i.imgur.com/vZlMrQ7.gif

Sounds good then, Blue still has a solid player base so unless everyone abandons it overnight, it should be good for quite a while to come. If I get really bored I might roll a toon on Green and just play it casually on and off.

Baler
05-29-2020, 06:23 PM
don't buy into Loramins anti DMO propaganda ;)

Roll Erudite and win Green.

Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 06:30 PM
don't buy into Loramins anti DMO propaganda ;)

Roll Erudite and win Green.

Is DMO the new TMO (The Mystical Order)? Gonna put all nameds and raid mobs on 24/7 lockdown, batphones going out to 5,000 members within 2 minutes of a pop?

ChooChoo Train
05-29-2020, 06:33 PM
If I play anything on Green it'll either be a Half Elf Bard or a Wood Elf Ranger.

Half elf bard can never wear a PD robe so that’s like yea no. Human bard is much sexier.

Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 06:38 PM
Half elf bard can never wear a PD robe so that’s like yea no. Human bard is much sexier.

Human nothing for me. I'm a Human every day in real life. Why would I want to be one in a fantasy game that I play to escape reality?

Cen
05-29-2020, 07:10 PM
Its fine he can still get a guardian robe, equip 2 cups, an erudite mask, then go to tunnel and offer group clarity, cast his group manasong one time to apply buff, leave party and very quickly run off before 18 seconds is up and everyone is confused.

ChooChoo Train
05-29-2020, 07:36 PM
Water elemental illusion is even better for that trick lol

Loadsamoney
05-29-2020, 07:40 PM
Hey, if you're bringing me into a party as a Bard, you're keeping me. You're not just gonna use me as a portable mana battery and then throw me away.

Hybrids can't be that trodden upon in green, the experience penalty can't bug people that much.

eqravenprince
05-29-2020, 08:03 PM
Blue is easier since you can way more easily twink a character out. If you want harder, more people, and more traditional leveling up, then Green. I prefer Green as I like a challenge.

cd288
05-29-2020, 08:28 PM
I have a 45 Ranger on Blue, slowly working on a Bard and trying out a Shadowknight as well, but I see that there's more people on Green.

Would it be worth my time to play on Green instead of Blue and just start over?

Depends. I wouldn’t say the Green is really “fresh” anymore. Many people have multiple chars, there’s a lot of max level chars, twinks exist (to the extent thinking is possible in pre-Kunark), and there’s tons of play already in circulation so the economy is starting to get inflated faster than you would think.

The EXP penalties can be sizable for multiple classes so I would take that into consideration if it’s important to you. The original legacy items are no longer dropping. I guess most of the lower level old world zones are crowded which is nice, so that’s a plus versus Blue.

In a few months Kunark comes out and IMO once the expansions start coming out I don’t think it’s significantly different from Blue.

I still play on Green since I started at launch, but if I were to start now I would probably go Blue.

cd288
05-29-2020, 08:31 PM
Hey, if you're bringing me into a party as a Bard, you're keeping me. You're not just gonna use me as a portable mana battery and then throw me away.

Hybrids can't be that trodden upon in green, the experience penalty can't bug people that much.

Have you not played on Green? They definitely are. Obviously since SK and Pally are great tanks you basically have to have one in your group unless you can find a Warrior. But that leads a lot of groups not to want many more people in the group if they don’t need them, much less another hybrid.

And if there’s a duo or trio that’s getting along just fine without a hybrid good luck getting them to let you join as a hybrid.

Blue is easier since you can way more easily twink a character out. If you want harder, more people, and more traditional leveling up, then Green. I prefer Green as I like a challenge.

People say this but it hasn’t been my experience. It was certainly fun starting from scratch, but I haven’t noticed any difference in group success or ease vs Blue. Groups I was in were chain pulling yellows and reds from pre-level 10 on. The only reason leveling on Green is “harder” is basically because there’s no mana regen until level 29 so the downtime for medding is increased.

El-Hefe
05-30-2020, 02:40 AM
Green is definitely harder. The fight for mobs and camps is night and day compared to Blue. Plus, god tier fungi twinks are hanging out on every street corner on the Blue server making every healer and spell caster completely superfluous.

They’re very different. Sure people pull yellows and reds for full groups on Green. But people solo yellows and reds on Blue. It’s not really comparable.

DMN
05-30-2020, 02:44 AM
keep your SK /ranger on blue, and make a bard over on green.

cd288
05-30-2020, 03:00 AM
Green is definitely harder. The fight for mobs and camps is night and day compared to Blue. Plus, god tier fungi twinks are hanging out on every street corner on the Blue server making every healer and spell caster completely superfluous.

They’re very different. Sure people pull yellows and reds for full groups on Green. But people solo yellows and reds on Blue. It’s not really comparable.

Haven’t noticed any difference grouping. On both Blue and Green we chain pull yellows and reds (in addition to blues of course) nonstop. There’s no difference in the experience (not meaning exp points) that you’ll have groupwise.

Soloing, sure there might be a couple more classes on Blue that you’ll see soloing a yellow than on Green because of the expansion gear being so much better so twinks are a lot more effective. But some of those classes can still solo yellows on Green. And do you know when that difference goes away? In like 3-4 months when Kunark drops and people start farming fungis and other great gear.

So basically we’re left with “if you play Green you’ll see a lower number of classes soloing yellows because pre-Kunark they’re not able to twink themselves such that they can do so. And that ends in a few months.”

I’m enjoying playing on Green, but as I said I don’t think you’re getting any significant experience at this stage on Green then you will on Blue and certainly not once Kunark comes out.

El-Hefe
05-30-2020, 03:39 AM
I mean, I constantly had zero to do in groups as a healer on Blue because of godlike twinks. I also never felt up to par as an intelligence caster because those classes aren’t balanced when compared to melees with endless plat piles.

I think you’re overestimating how common Blue style twinks will be on Green. Blues messed up ten year timeline means a completely different balance. It’s a matter of arithmetic, only a certain amount of Fungi Tunics and Epics will be doled out to twinks on Green during the more accurate timeline.

On Green not everyone who wanted a manastone got one, not everyone who wants a fungi will get one and not everyone who wants an epic will get one either.

cd288
05-30-2020, 10:39 AM
If you don’t think there will be tons of Fungi tunics around by Velious you haven’t played on P99 very long lol

Kerwin 5.0
05-30-2020, 11:25 AM
come over to red, enjoy the fast xp and goodplayers, get loot faster and never wait in line for a camp

Loadsamoney
05-30-2020, 11:34 AM
come over to red, enjoy the fast xp and goodplayers, get loot faster and never wait in line for a camp

I honestly may play Red at some point, but it bewilders me that it has such a tiny player base.

cd288
05-30-2020, 11:38 AM
I honestly may play Red at some point, but it bewilders me that it has such a tiny player base.

As I understand it, there are lots of griefers who will come kill lowbies in the newb yard just for fun. And other issues.

Red players burned their own server to the ground back when people used to play on it

Kerwin 5.0
05-30-2020, 11:41 AM
im lvling up chars right now with a friend or 2 and have seen no griefers at all in any low lvl zones, possibly sometimes 1 asshole that wants to, usually in MM too... but naw man. hit up kerwinx if u come over n try it

Loadsamoney
05-30-2020, 11:48 AM
Well, I'm tempted to play a Bard on the side there. I just know that if I start and people come kill me for absolutely no reason, I'm gonna be not happy about it.

Kerwin 5.0
05-30-2020, 11:55 AM
PvP happens sometimes cant be mad about that, cant have soft skin here, just dont give out your location to people that dont have a reason to know, most people are willing to help here with buffs or some starter gear, just get bound somewhat close to where u xp and u be fine.

Kerwin 5.0
05-30-2020, 12:02 PM
server is pretty blue now to be honest, its more of a soloquest due to pop, but can make some friends to log on and xp with etc, newb guild named sanctuary as well. im making a guild tho just waiting on gm's ...

cd288
05-30-2020, 12:13 PM
im lvling up chars right now with a friend or 2 and have seen no griefers at all in any low lvl zones, possibly sometimes 1 asshole that wants to, usually in MM too... but naw man. hit up kerwinx if u come over n try it

“With a friend or 2”

On Red? Sure you are. Staff, I found the boxer (unless it’s permitted on Red not sure)

Jimjam
05-30-2020, 12:40 PM
Well, I'm tempted to play a Bard on the side there. I just know that if I start and people come kill me for absolutely no reason, I'm gonna be not happy about it.

I run around without /anon turned on and don't really have a problem with it.

The low pop is a blessing in disguise, there aren't really (m)any greifers these days but the global ooc makes it possible to find groups at any level (most people have a few alts to cover the entire 1-60 range).

Loadsamoney
05-30-2020, 01:09 PM
I don't like having Anon on, surprisingly. I like people being able to see what class and level I am, incase someone wants me for a party.

I can understand some people wanting to have it on, but why almost every single Druid on the entire Blue server has it turned on boggles me.

Jimjam
05-30-2020, 01:24 PM
They are scared of being asked to do a teleport or cast buffs like sow and potg.

Loadsamoney
05-30-2020, 01:26 PM
They are scared of being asked to do a teleport or cast buffs like sow and potg.

That's their job though. If you didn't want to do your job, why play that class? I'm sorry if that seems harsh, but if I'm a bard and I'm asked to pull for the group, I'm not gonna say no or I can't, because that's my job. It's something a Bard is good at and is expected to do.

Kerwin 5.0
05-30-2020, 01:37 PM
“With a friend or 2”

On Red? Sure you are. Staff, I found the boxer (unless it’s permitted on Red not sure)

Dont slander my name kid i never have boxed on p99.

Sabin76
05-30-2020, 01:38 PM
That's their job though. If you didn't want to do your job, why play that class? I'm sorry if that seems harsh, but if I'm a bard and I'm asked to pull for the group, I'm not gonna say no or I can't, because that's my job. It's something a Bard is good at and is expected to do.

Playing Devil's Advocate here, yes... in a group. A group you've presumably agreed to join. Perhaps the druid just wants to quad kite for a bit before going to bed. Are you going to agree to pull with your bard for some random full group in the zone where you are soloing because that's your job?

I mean druids that WANT to be port/buff jockies for the entire server population all join DaP, right? ;)

Jimjam
05-30-2020, 01:51 PM
That's their job though. If you didn't want to do your job, why play that class? I'm sorry if that seems harsh, but if I'm a bard and I'm asked to pull for the group, I'm not gonna say no or I can't, because that's my job. It's something a Bard is good at and is expected to do.

If they're in a group their groupmates know what they are so they don't need to advertise their class, so anon is fine.

If they're not in a group, they have no contract with you, so it is not necessarily their job, they don't need to advertise, so anon is fine.

Danth
05-30-2020, 02:29 PM
/Anon on Druids? Not desirable, but the environment warrants it. Too many socially stunted shut-ins or entitled millennials in the P99 community who can't tolerate being told, "No, I'm busy," and instead proceed to harass and act all belligerent when they don't get what they want at a moment's notice.

Danth

Canelek
05-30-2020, 02:38 PM
Lol yeah, play on red.

GnomeCaptain
05-30-2020, 04:18 PM
That's their job though. If you didn't want to do your job, why play that class? I'm sorry if that seems harsh, but if I'm a bard and I'm asked to pull for the group, I'm not gonna say no or I can't, because that's my job. It's something a Bard is good at and is expected to do.

Haha, thanks for the laugh.

A job! Hahahahaha.

How truly terrible this game would be if some completely bogus theory of obligation ruled every decision.

Loadsamoney
05-30-2020, 04:30 PM
Haha, thanks for the laugh.

A job! Hahahahaha.

How truly terrible this game would be if some completely bogus theory of obligation ruled every decision.

Is that you GnomeMagician. I was having a chat with you earlier on Thickcut. lol

bomaroast
05-30-2020, 05:50 PM
The correct answer is, whatever makes you want to play less. The quicker you're done playing this game the better you'll be.

There, I've done my service for the day. I'll probably check the forums in another six months, only to remember again how toxic this community is. See you then.

cd288
05-30-2020, 06:50 PM
The correct answer is, whatever makes you want to play less. The quicker you're done playing this game the better you'll be.

There, I've done my service for the day. I'll probably check the forums in another six months, only to remember again how toxic this community is. See you then.

You’re so cool dude