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Dural_Levant
06-01-2020, 11:15 AM
So back in the day, I made a button to report my mana percentage to my group. Went something like this I think:

/g Mana at <mpp>

The output was: "Mana at 56%"

But now as I am writing this, I think this might have been an old Final Fantasy 11 macro...

Is a macro like this possible on green?

fastboy21
06-01-2020, 11:35 AM
Not possible without cheating.

loramin
06-01-2020, 11:38 AM
Also casters (healers especially) often shouldn't be telling their exact mana. Instead, you kind of have to tailor how accurate you are in your mana reporting to how competent your group is. With less competent groups you should report lower-than-actual numbers, to give you the necessary "buffer" to handle problems that come up.

Dural_Levant
06-01-2020, 11:43 AM
Thanks for clearing that up, fastboy21.

And that's some solid advise, Loramin, I will take to heart.

drackgon
06-01-2020, 12:18 PM
Well it can be done but not that accurate more like make macro for like 20%, then another for 40%, 60% etc.. I actually do this on my cleric. And now my Wizzy. Its not perfect but what else am i going to use 2-6 keybinds for. (Alt + #) = spell I wish to use. On Cleric CH chain takes up 1 macro.. Wizzy 1 takes up Asisst.

fastboy21
06-03-2020, 02:39 PM
I routinely report my mana when I'm healing as less than it really is, especially if I think the puller or rest of the group is unreliable. I essentially report myself "oom" when I don't have enough mana for unexpected problems.

Pullers on p99 are addicted to chain pulling. If you don't make clear that you are oom they will keep pulling until you wipe. Chain pulling is great, but losing a DPS person in the group when you are running a mana deficit so that they can bring an additional mob, while it makes the puller feel uber, usually doesn't always increase the overall exp of the group while increasing the work load and risk of the group. If your puller doesn't know the difference or how to balance the pulls vs. mana, then usually it is the healer's job to make sure he knows when mana breaks are needed.

drackgon
06-03-2020, 03:06 PM
What fastboy said. Its all about communicating. Feel free to call someone out for being bad. Breaking mez/Puller not controlling his speed of pulls, Wizzy nuking moment mob b4 its even seen-_-, peeps casting fear on dungeon mobs. Whatever it is, be open and communicate. As a healer let group know your mana plz it really helps control the group and save wipes. Personally me getting that one extra mob every 22 mins is not worth the 10%-20% exp from death.

Cen
06-03-2020, 03:08 PM
That macro is from FFXI

Bagavan
06-03-2020, 03:10 PM
Also casters (healers especially) often shouldn't be telling their exact mana. Instead, you kind of have to tailor how accurate you are in your mana reporting to how competent your group is. With less competent groups you should report lower-than-actual numbers, to give you the necessary "buffer" to handle problems that come up.

Loramin don't take this the wrong way but did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

TripSin
06-03-2020, 03:13 PM
Loramin don't take this the wrong way but did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

The better question, I think, is did you?

Bagavan
06-03-2020, 04:00 PM
The better question, I think, is did you?

Fair rebuttal, as a kid no, as an adult yes.

fastboy21
06-03-2020, 04:03 PM
Most people don't know this, but lead-based paint is an excellent solvent for marijuana edibles. You gotta be creative in these apocalyptic times.

loramin
06-03-2020, 04:27 PM
Loramin don't take this the wrong way but did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

Most people don't know this, but lead-based paint is an excellent solvent for marijuana edibles. You gotta be creative in these apocalyptic times.

Fastboy gets me :) I have consumed vast quantities of marijuana, but in fact zero paint chips.

Regardless of any of that though, I don't get the hostility: have you never healed a group on P99 (or in classic) before or something? If you did (and certainly if you did several times) the odds are heavily in favor of one of those groups needing a little ... "finessing" of mana reports.

Cen
06-03-2020, 05:03 PM
What ive learned as a jumblasting cleric is that it doesn't matter what number you report as long as its a number or OOM. If your out of mana, they probably wont pull. If you say any number from 1-100, they pull.

I have to have a lot of jum in the tank then just say 50 :)

Jimjam
06-04-2020, 04:32 AM
Every good puller knows that 1) healers lie about their mana and 2 a) the dps is lit enough and b) the tank is heavy enough to deal with a few weaker mobs unhealed while the healer meds.

When the healer or slower cries oom thats when you pull all those greens and low blues you’ve been avoiding. Extra points if the shaman cannibalises himself to death trying to make enough mana to slow a mob that doesn’t even give xp.

fastboy21
06-04-2020, 08:59 AM
Every good puller knows that 1) healers lie about their mana and 2 a) the dps is lit enough and b) the tank is heavy enough to deal with a few weaker mobs unhealed while the healer meds.

When the healer or slower cries oom thats when you pull all those greens and low blues you’ve been avoiding. Extra points if the shaman cannibalises himself to death trying to make enough mana to slow a mob that doesn’t even give xp.

This is true. One of the ugliest things to watch in EQ is when a chanter goes down trying to CC a large pull, only to find out that the grp managed to clear them easily AFTER he died going Rambo to save the group. Good groups are much more resilient than people think...however,

More often than not a PUG usually has at least one (and frequently most) of the following: the tank is under-geared...the dps is tabbed out watching pron...the backup healer is high as a kite...and the puller (who is as high as the backup healer) doesn't read grp chat to see that the healer is afk.

Bigsham
06-04-2020, 12:27 PM
Can you smoke jumjum leaves?

Jimjam
06-04-2020, 01:42 PM
Filbus famously smoked jum and guides.

fastboy21
06-04-2020, 02:25 PM
silly filbus jumhum is for kids...