"unresolved" quests

[Tsuken]

My main question is, is it of any use to try and resolve unresolved quests like this one: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=137

Because this is an "emulated" server, and I don't think Sony is telling you all the solutions to quests.

I think I shouldn't bother because the "unresolved quests" are probably at a dead-end on the server, even if there might be a solution on the live version. Or am I wrong?

[xblade724]

That would be cool if you could make your own ending to the quest as an emulated server :)

Hell it's probably just some hidden keyword no one figured out yet and didn't care about.

[Jify]

agreed.. all those uber animal parts from all across norrath..

[guineapig]

Anything that was unsolved on live would either be unsolved or completely unimplemented here. Unless the devs have all the details of a quest they have no way to replicate it.

They had to manually recreate every single quest on this server from scratch using info posted online and from memory... :eek:

(Some people should think about that next time they want to complain about little bugs on this server. This is not being dirrected at the OP.)

[Tsuken]

Ya, the funny thing is, the staff segment dropped from a named bandit in EK. So something of it was put in the game. But yeah I probably can not expect the rest to have been put in.

Is there a list of the quests that have been added and are confirmed to work on the server?

[Aeolwind]

Anything that was unsolved on live would either be unsolved or completely unimplemented here. Unless the devs have all the details of a quest they have no way to replicate it.

They had to manually recreate every single quest on this server from scratch using info posted online and from memory... :eek:

(Some people should think about that next time they want to complain about little bugs on this server. This is not being dirrected at the OP.)

Not all, I only had to script about 600.

Also, remember folks, Allakhazam's is NOT the end all, be all. If I could find info on a quest, I finished it out. I'm not at home where I can see atm, but I will check up on this quest for you and advise.

[Sloth]

the quest into Daydems pants has been unresolved thus far

[Aeolwind]

Ya, the funny thing is, the staff segment dropped from a named bandit in EK. So something of it was put in the game. But yeah I probably can not expect the rest to have been put in.

Is there a list of the quests that have been added and are confirmed to work on the server?

In some cases, I've been able to piece quests together based on looking at the database of items and comparing to other sources. One quest in particular no one could figure out the item, but based on the item DB and some Lucy look ups I was able to find and confirm the real 3rd item and finish the quest (with some personal embelishment on texts since they didn't exist) AND the reward.

This MAY not be the case here. I'll have to look when I get home.

[Tsuken]

Thanks Aeolwind :)

I think I'm already unto something, but it would be good to know if it is finish-able

[Audacious93c]

Hey Aeolwind, or anyone else for that matter. Any idea who the quest turn in would be to turn the Crafted armor for Warriors into Small Crafted Armor? Would be nice to know if it was in classic or implemented later :(

[Tsuken]

I've already run into two strange things with the quest:
1) Both staff segment A and staff segment B dropped off Tallus Holton. I think he is only supposed to drop 1 segment, right? (source: allakhazam)
2) He also dropped the key: H.K. 401, but the bank assistant in HHK won't take it from me. I think you're supposed to get the 2nd staff segment in return for the key. (source: allakhazam). Maybe she won't accept it because I already have the LORE staff segment which I would have received this way?

On another note, does anyone know how to get to Carson McCabe, he seems to be hidden behind a wall but I can't find the secret entrance :)

[Virtuosos]

get a sledgehammer mate!

be interesting to see if this quest can be finished :p utterly does not affect me one way or the other, but still be cool :)

[guineapig]

get a sledgehammer mate!

be interesting to see if this quest can be finished :p utterly does not affect me one way or the other, but still be cool :)


if it's the quest I'm thinking of it was bugged on live for a long time too. So unless a dev here actually custom fixed it... Besides the info from Allakhazam, the High Guard Battlestaff doesn't even show up in the Lucy database so that leads me to believe very few people ever actually got it, or it was straight up removed from the game before Lucy started keeping track.


I was able to dig this up however: (no clue why it's on the wow site)

http://www.worldofwarcraft.selfip.com/everquest/item.php?id=13828

It shows an 8.75% chance of Tallus dropping staff segment B. I have been unable to find ANYTHING else about this item anywhere so I'm guessing both parts were intended top drop from the same mob which is whack.

[doacleric]

There were many, MANY broken/unfinished quests in classic EQ. This was probably due to the fact that once EQ went live, most of the dev team was either fixing more important bugs, or transferred to the expansion (kunark) team. The way I see it, our options are as follows:

1.) Leave all unfinished quests out of P1999 entirely

2.) Leave the quests in, but broken like on Live

3.) Leave the quests in, and using our own creative judgment, finish the quests ourselves


Numbers 1 and 3 make the most sense to me.

[guineapig]

More info I found on the high guard battlestaff quest:

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25083

This is a script for something seemingly completely different but it mentions the high guard battlestaff specifically none the less.

[Icecometus]

The Mother of all unresolved quests is the one that involves the GBS and Varsoon....

[Atern]

Here's a couple lists just from Alla:

Unresolved:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/adv_qsearch.html?terms=&classes=All&races=All&szone=0&izone=0&grouptype=&minlevel=0&level=0&mingroup=0&level=0&status=Unsolved&era=original&type=0&goal=0&act=Search%21

Incomplete:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/adv_qsearch.html?terms=&classes=All&races=All&szone=0&izone=0&grouptype=&minlevel=0&level=0&mingroup=0&level=0&status=Incomplete&era=original&type=0&goal=0&act=Search%21

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[Yoite]

Hey Aeolwind, or anyone else for that matter. Any idea who the quest turn in would be to turn the Crafted armor for Warriors into Small Crafted Armor? Would be nice to know if it was in classic or implemented later :(

its a drawf in a hut in WC IIRC. But i havent tried it on P1999 yet as i was too worried he would just eat my armor instead of making it smaller.

Can anyone confirm if this is implemented/working?

[Tsuken]

More info I found on the high guard battlestaff quest:

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25083

This is a script for something seemingly completely different but it mentions the high guard battlestaff specifically none the less.

Yes I found that page too a while back. It seems to be for another quest though. But maybe the "bag full of pearls" is usable with reassembling the staff.


Loose ends:
Theoris Bladespur in East Karana also drops key HK 401

Brollus Hoost in Kithicor Forest reacts to:"what battle staff'":
"I was hired to steal a High Guard battle staff from the High Guard of Erudin. It is a gift for Carson McCabe. I guess he collects weapons."

[Audacious93c]

Im afraid to try myself man, thats why Im asking lol.

[Tsuken]

Ok I found my way to Carson McCabe, but he doesn't seem to respond to anything. He's listed as a quest NPC on Allakhazam, but doesn't have any quests linked to him.

I'm tempted to hand him the two staff segments. But he might eat them.

otherwise, I think the guy in Tox might be able to fix the staff for us. Because he's the guy that makes the Peacekeepers staff, which is from the quest leading to this quest.

Also, I can't get to Brollus Hoost in Kithicor, because Kithicor has undead walking around day and night. So we have to wait till Kithicor is fixed.

And I have no idea how we were supposed to know about Brollus or Tallus (or the staff segments) yet if you follow the quest line.

Our only bit of information that should help us further at the moment is:

Lumi Stergnon says 'In the mountain keep called High Hold, we have heard there is a person hiring mercenaries for an attempt to obtain a High Guard battle staff. We are missing one of our staffs and believe this person has it. Go to Highpass Hold and find this person. Return the High Guard battle staff to me!'

On Allakhazam they jump straight to Tallus in East Karana, which means they skipped at least one step. I'm sure we are supposed to talk with Lady McCabe first (but she hasn't spawned), because she seems to be the one who hired Brollus Hoost to steal the staff as a gift for Carson McCabe, possibly to fix their relationship, considering Mistress Anna.

[xblade724]

Ok I found my way to Carson McCabe, but he doesn't seem to respond to anything. He's listed as a quest NPC on Allakhazam, but doesn't have any quests linked to him.

I'm tempted to hand him the two staff segments. But he might eat them.

otherwise, I think the guy in Tox might be able to fix the staff for us. Because he's the guy that makes the Peacekeepers staff, which is from the quest leading to this quest.

Also, I can't get to Brollus Hoost in Kithicor, because Kithicor has undead walking around day and night. So we have to wait till Kithicor is fixed.

And I have no idea how we were supposed to know about Brollus or Tallus (or the staff segments) yet if you follow the quest line.

Our only bit of information that should help us further at the moment is:

Lumi Stergnon says 'In the mountain keep called High Hold, we have heard there is a person hiring mercenaries for an attempt to obtain a High Guard battle staff. We are missing one of our staffs and believe this person has it. Go to Highpass Hold and find this person. Return the High Guard battle staff to me!'

On Allakhazam they jump straight to Tallus in East Karana, which means they skipped at least one step. I'm sure we are supposed to talk with Lady McCabe first (but she hasn't spawned), because she seems to be the one who hired Brollus Hoost to steal the staff as a gift for Carson McCabe, possibly to fix their relationship, considering Mistress Anna.

Did you try asking the weapons collector something about his collecting? "What kind of weapons do you collect?" "I hear you are a weapons collector?" etc.

Let's solve this mystery! Very interesting additional info you guys all found.

[quenyar]

I was always very intrigued by these unsolved quests of vanilla EQ. Especially the ones revolving around the mysterious Unkempt Druids and their strife with the Surefall druids. Jale Phlintoes in South Karana remains one of the most interesting NPCs in original EQ.

I have always suspected these two quests being somehow linked: The Nitrates and the Assassin (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=298) and The Unkempt Druids (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=399). A possible third connection could be this one: Solvedi Scimitar (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=41) because it is directly related to the Unkempt Druids, and the quest reward is slightly inferior to the turn in quest items...

I think someone originally planned for druids to have the option of choosing sides with the Unkempt at the expense of Surefall Glades faction. With possible rewards in store...

[Tsuken]

Did you try asking the weapons collector something about his collecting? "What kind of weapons do you collect?" "I hear you are a weapons collector?" etc.

Let's solve this mystery! Very interesting additional info you guys all found.
Good idea, I'll try that with Carson McCabe sometime. However, according to the quest line we are not supposed to know about McCabe or his collection of weapons yet. All we know is that someone in HHK is hiring mercenaries to get the weapon.

I was waiting for Lady McCabe to spawn to ask about mercenaries and of course the staff. Since I'm pretty sure she is the one hiring mercenaries. I also thought of somehow trying to find out her real name and asking around in Erudin. "Lady McCabe" sounds so secret. I don't think Lady is her first name and she got her last name from Carson. The guy giving the quest in Erudin didn't respond to "Lady McCabe".

Misstress Anna isn't very helpful either. If you ask her about "Lady McCabe", she tells me to not mention her name. Maybe she is hiring the mercenaries though, but Lady McCabe is eritude and Anna doesn't like eritudes. So Anna wouldn't want to give an eritude staff to Carson I think.

If anyone reads about this quest, don't kill any named quest NPC in HHK please, especially not Lady McCabe :P


I think someone originally planned for druids to have the option of choosing sides with the Unkempt at the expense of Surefall Glades faction. With possible rewards in store...
O wow quenyar, that IS interesting. Especially since I'm playing a druid :) I'll have to look into that as well sometimes.

[Tsuken]

I had to kill "a maid" in the balcony room to get Lady McCabe to spawn, which gives a faction hit to "HighHoldCitizens", so you don't want to do this too often. I went to apprehensively with some NPC in high hold.

If I go to the Allakhazam page for this quest (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=137) it says this should happen:

You say, 'Tell me about the staff segments'
Lady McCabe says 'I have no idea what you are talking about. Battle staff.. Hmmm.. No, it does not ring a bell.'

But when I say that, she doesn't respond to me.

Also, I gave her one of the staff segments, but she just ate it without saying anything.
I then went to the bank assistant with HK 401 to get the staff segment back, but she wouldn't take it. Probably because I still have had that other LORE staff segment.
I then gave the other staff segment to Lady McCabe, but she ate that also.
I then went to the bank assistant again to hand the key, since I didn't have any staff segments anymore, but she still would not take it...?
I then went to Lady McCabe and fed her the key also.

[guineapig]

An emu server is probably not a good place to attempt to solve previously unsolved quests. Unless of course a dev specifically said that they added made up quests for this server, which they wouldn't since it would be considered custom content.

Don't get me wrong, back in the day I had all sorts of theories about a bunch of mysterious NPCs in the game as well. But I would hate to see you spend days working on something that simply isn't implemented here.

[Tsuken]

You're absolutely right guineapig, the intend of this thread was to ask if it was possible to finish this quest or not. Aeolwind said he would look into it, but hasn't come back with an answer as of yet.

[xblade724]

I had to kill "a maid" in the balcony room to get Lady McCabe to spawn, which gives a faction hit to "HighHoldCitizens", so you don't want to do this too often. I went to apprehensively with some NPC in high hold.

If I go to the Allakhazam page for this quest (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=137) it says this should happen:

You say, 'Tell me about the staff segments'
Lady McCabe says 'I have no idea what you are talking about. Battle staff.. Hmmm.. No, it does not ring a bell.'

But when I say that, she doesn't respond to me.

Also, I gave her one of the staff segments, but she just ate it without saying anything.
I then went to the bank assistant with HK 401 to get the staff segment back, but she wouldn't take it. Probably because I still have had that other LORE staff segment.
I then gave the other staff segment to Lady McCabe, but she ate that also.
I then went to the bank assistant again to hand the key, since I didn't have any staff segments anymore, but she still would not take it...?
I then went to Lady McCabe and fed her the key also.

"Lady McCabe says 'I have no idea what you are talking about. Battle staff.. Hmmm.. No, it does not ring a bell."

Interesting - you never mentioned anything about a "battle staff" or the end result, you asked about the segments. Maybe you're supposed to call her out on that!

[xblade724]

Also, I gave her one of the staff segments, but she just ate it without saying anything.


I think you got it then!! Npcs on this server are like live where they give it back to you if it's the incorrect item!! She ate it because she's expecting something else. She needs other items

[guineapig]

I think you got it then!! Npcs on this server are like live where they give it back to you if it's the incorrect item!! She ate it because she's expecting something else. She needs other items

Sort of.... They will still eat an item if you gave them everything they need if they are broken. Example would be some SolRo quests where the correct items were given in their entirity but the items went poof anyway with no responce from the NPC.

So while the staff segemnt might definitely be something she is looking for, it does not necessarily mean she wants something else. If she's broken she will just eat the segment.

[Aeolwind]

I did some digging & some mining. In regard to the High Guard Battle Staff that is. The 3rd piece must be the result of a quest that was never stumbled upon or has no intro text. It isn't in any item DB nor is it mineable from the main EQ database of items. That or they never put the piece in lol. The item ID is just skipped.