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RecondoJoe
07-29-2020, 11:15 AM
I think some of you have been playing P99 for so long that you forgot what actual classic was like. 20 years ago, I don't remember there being a system in place that allowed the same group of players to hold camps indefinitely while largely AFK, in a different zone or even offline and asleep (https://imgur.com/a/cm9ImaE). This idea that /lists are moving further away from classic is hogwash.

I've only been playing P99 for about 2-3 months, so my memory of Classic EverQuest is very different from someone who may have spent the last 10 years on Blue. To me a /list is MORE classic than being told I'm simply not allowed to farm content that is trivial to me because someone who is asleep right now has the right to the camp for the unforeseeable future -- and if I should challenge this the way a player traditionally would have 20 years ago -- my account will be banned.

It's really sad too because when the younger generation of WoW players ask me why EverQuest was better than WoW, I always tell them that it's because the game was truly the wild west -- you could do whatever you wanted, but your actions had consequences, and your reputation mattered. In 2020, that's no longer the case.

So no, /lists are not getting further away from classic -- the need for /lists is a direct result of the PNP. Instead of calling people care bears, you need to realize that the system we're playing under right now makes everyone a care bear by default.

DMN
07-29-2020, 12:13 PM
I think some of you have been playing P99 for so long that you forgot what actual classic was like. 20 years ago, I don't remember there being a system in place that allowed the same group of players to hold camps indefinitely while largely AFK, in a different zone or even offline and asleep (https://imgur.com/a/cm9ImaE). This idea that /lists are moving further away from classic is hogwash.

I've only been playing P99 for about 2-3 months, so my memory of Classic EverQuest is very different from someone who may have spent the last 10 years on Blue. To me a /list is MORE classic than being told I'm simply not allowed to farm content that is trivial to me because someone who is asleep right now has the right to the camp for the unforeseeable future -- and if I should challenge this the way a player traditionally would have 20 years ago -- my account will be banned.

It's really sad too because when the younger generation of WoW players ask me why EverQuest was better than WoW, I always tell them that it's because the game was truly the wild west -- you could do whatever you wanted, but your actions had consequences, and your reputation mattered. In 2020, that's no longer the case.

Early WoW wasn't much different than early EQ. If you were an asshat, you didn't get groups. it would cut both directly in not getting the invites, while also indirectly in that you would forever be under geared so no one would want to hold their nose and take a chance on you in the future.

in some ways, early WoW was even more unforgiving in that you had virtually no way to solo content that would drop level-appropriate gear and generally there were very limited ways via the auctionhouse/crafting to get gear at the upper end of the spectrum. Hunter's/rogues might have been exceptions in that they had some great crafted gear options even early on, but that was just a handful of gear items, they'd still be left with a lot of shitty pieces. a rogue with a barman's shank was on a whole other level than one with whatever random garbage you bought off the AH. The better shit was almost always bind on pick up, unlike EQ where much of the better early stuff you didn't need to loot yourself. You could go buy a sash, mith, or a manastone if you had the dosh and there were many solo-oriented ways of obtaining that money and solo/duo players capable of obtaining much of it.

Even with the planes in EQ you could just get a PUG and farm trash for shit almost as good as anything else in the game available. You couldn't show up to onyxia or molten core with some scrubby PUGs in WoW, and shit there blew the doors off anything else you could get.

The real difference was you were much more likely to have previous interactions with everyone else in EQ. So you more readily knew who was a shithead, and who wasn't, because you were all tossed into the same zones. The process of finding out who the assholes were was just more streamlined but fundamentally not much different.


So no, /lists are not getting further away from classic -- the need for /lists is a direct result of the PNP. Instead of calling people care bears, you need to realize that the system we're playing under right now makes everyone a care bear by default.

Nah, lists aren't there because the PNP. Lists are there because the load on the staff would be ridiculous if they had to relitigate elf pixels every time a new set of manbabies walked into a "legacy camp". Not sure what you referring to with carebears. That's an old term poking fun at people on non-pvp servers( or non-pvp games in general).

As far as /list "feeling" more classic, it tends depend on the server you played on and the time period you were referring to. There were plenty of cases on my server of people gatekeeping content from other people and certainly guilds/groups monopolizing camps. it didn't happen often but it certainly happened. But it would have certainly have happened a shitload moreoften if people could look into the future like we essentially can on p99, knowing what is going to be nerf/removed. it seemed the GMs on their respective servers set the tone for how these interpersonal squabbles would be dealt with and people just went along with whatever the server standards were. if your GM was fairly Laissez-faire, then you better bring a nuker with to secure your kills from Ksers. Sure you can blacklist that asshole in the future, but he's stealing your manastone/sash today.

N0tClassic
07-29-2020, 12:28 PM
I think some of you have been playing P99 for so long that you forgot what actual classic was like. 20 years ago, I don't remember there being a system in place that allowed the same group of players to hold camps indefinitely while largely AFK, in a different zone or even offline and asleep (https://imgur.com/a/cm9ImaE). This idea that /lists are moving further away from classic is hogwash.

I've only been playing P99 for about 2-3 months, so my memory of Classic EverQuest is very different from someone who may have spent the last 10 years on Blue. To me a /list is MORE classic than being told I'm simply not allowed to farm content that is trivial to me because someone who is asleep right now has the right to the camp for the unforeseeable future -- and if I should challenge this the way a player traditionally would have 20 years ago -- my account will be banned.

It's really sad too because when the younger generation of WoW players ask me why EverQuest was better than WoW, I always tell them that it's because the game was truly the wild west -- you could do whatever you wanted, but your actions had consequences, and your reputation mattered. In 2020, that's no longer the case.

So no, /lists are not getting further away from classic -- the need for /lists is a direct result of the PNP. Instead of calling people care bears, you need to realize that the system we're playing under right now makes everyone a care bear by default.

This server is filled with a bunch of assholes

Raiding on P99 isn't even about the content. It's about fucking over other players. I guarantee that whoever is hoarding Summon Corpse pixels is getting a lot more enjoyment out of doing that than by raiding any dragons.

Go to any high ZEM zone. Nothing but whining and what constitutes a camp in OOC. PnP is out the window. People are straight up a bunch of pricks and will hoard multiple camps if they can get away with it and be total dicks about it.

The mentality of the modern gamer can't coexist within the development of a 20 year old MMO. EQ's Design is archaic. People are shitheads. It's oil and water.

douglas1999
07-29-2020, 12:47 PM
Uh you must not have played ultima online in 1997-98

People being dicks is not remotely a new thing. It's also infinitely more interesting than modern mmos where there are no high highs and no low lows. You just kind of feel distantly invested in your character and it's not particularly satisfying nor disappointing when anything happens.

Lordgordon
07-29-2020, 01:12 PM
Low lifes are generally assholes.
Low lifes like everquest.

cd288
07-29-2020, 01:13 PM
To be honest your post is pretty convoluted and not really clear on the point you're trying to make, especially considering the title. Are you saying rules didn't exist? Are you saying people could monopolize content? Or are you saying they couldn't?

If you're saying rules didn't exist, you're certainly incorrect. I was CSR and involved in creating some of the rules that existed.

shuklak
07-29-2020, 01:23 PM
Low lifes are generally assholes.
Low lifes like everquest.

Blame f2p?

N0tClassic
07-29-2020, 01:25 PM
Uh you must not have played ultima online in 1997-98

People being dicks is not remotely a new thing. It's also infinitely more interesting than modern mmos where there are no high highs and no low lows. You just kind of feel distantly invested in your character and it's not particularly satisfying nor disappointing when anything happens.

The original Ultima Online gave the players the ability to police themselves (Open World PVP)

They should create a Guild War system on P99 that automatically flags a guild war once a guild successfully kills a raid target. All guilds that have killed a raid mob are flagged PVP to all the other guilds that have also done so.

Guilds can create alliances that removes this flag between the guilds that have formed the alliance. Example: Federation wouldn't be PVP flagged between each other. Only to other guilds that have successfully killed a raid target outside of their alliance.

PVP would be based on level and guild membership. Will never happen but it would certainly create a possibility for resolution beyond bitching in RnF. Would definitely make the game a lot more interesting and put an end to cock blocking pixels.

Let the guilds police themselves with open world PVP - GMs take a hands off approach and watch it burn

RecondoJoe
07-29-2020, 01:26 PM
People being dicks is not remotely a new thing.

I never said it was. You know it's been 20 years and I'm still angry at some of the people who fucked me over on this game. You would think bygones will be bygones, but when people aren't held accountable for their toxic behavior, and likely never changed, it's hard for me to look back and think "I forgive that 40 year old man who stole a Tranquil Staff off of me and proceeded to viciously cyber bully me, suggesting that I commit suicide, knowing that I was a 12 year old kid at the time."

charmcitysking
07-29-2020, 01:32 PM
You know it's been 20 years and I'm still angry at some of the people who fucked me over on this game.[/I]

Time for a break?

RecondoJoe
07-29-2020, 01:33 PM
To be honest your post is pretty convoluted and not really clear on the point you're trying to make, especially considering the title. Are you saying rules didn't exist? Are you saying people could monopolize content? Or are you saying they couldn't?

If you're saying rules didn't exist, you're certainly incorrect. I was CSR and involved in creating some of the rules that existed.

I played EverQuest for years. I can't tell you how many times I was camping Sarnak Fort, or Captain Room in KC only to have another group simply plop down in front of mine and start taking our pulls, in some cases bluntly stating that if we don't have the DPS to keep up with them, then that's not their problem. I can't tell you how many times I had been camping something for hours, only to have a higher level player show up, refuse to communicate with me, and proceed to steal the mob I was camping as soon as it popped.

I myself was a Guide for years on the Prexus server. I very seldom would even waste my time responding to someone who filled out a petition complaining about someone stealing pulls or kills, and there are thousands of threads that still exist from 20 years ago that confirm this.

I think the only time I ever took action against another player for stealing pulls was in OverThere. I can actually remember that someone had been stealing my pulls at the same time on Tunare, so when I saw someone else doing it on Prexus, I was seeking retribution and I got it. Otherwise I wouldn't have even bothered going there to see what was happening.

Lastly, I can remember getting my T-staff literally ninja'd not only after the group leader originally said the group was NBG, but even after I won the random when he recanted. The GMs simply told me that even though he said NBG and I won the /random, that there wasn't enough evidence for them to do anything about it and that I needed to be more careful about who I choose to group with in the future.

Verant and SOE were very hands off, and still are - even to this day.

RecondoJoe
07-29-2020, 01:37 PM
Time for a break?

Yeah, I guess 20 years of not playing obviously wasn't enough of a break.

OuterChimp
07-29-2020, 01:57 PM
I keep waiting for people to grief me in my solo Minecraft world but it has yet to happen!

drackgon
07-29-2020, 02:34 PM
I will say this. Community was #1 on EQ. If you were a ninja/asshole/Ks'r pretty much a shit bag on server. The server quickly learned about you and you never got into groups, or raids with said character. And if you were super nice person, tons knew your name and of your good deeds.

P99, is not about that sadly. Seems more focused on skimming by loose rules. Or rules posted 8 years ago on blue.

N0tClassic
07-29-2020, 02:55 PM
I will say this. Community was #1 on EQ. If you were a ninja/asshole/Ks'r pretty much a shit bag on server. The server quickly learned about you and you never got into groups, or raids with said character. And if you were super nice person, tons knew your name and of your good deeds.

P99, is not about that sadly. Seems more focused on skimming by loose rules. Or rules posted 8 years ago on blue.

The problem with P99 is the majority of players (at least on Green) are total shitbags that have no shame

They will steamroll you over camps and act like total psychopathic dickheads. Especially in high zem zones. Zones with big zems are like a magnet for the worst kind of player on the server.

Nuggie
07-29-2020, 03:20 PM
This has been covered in a great many other threads. No one gives a shit. If you don't like it, find another way to spend the most precious resources you have: your time.

RecondoJoe
07-29-2020, 03:27 PM
This has been covered in a great many other threads. No one gives a shit. If you don't like it, find another way to spend the most precious resources you have: your time.

This thread is in direct response to dozens of people saying /lists aren’t classic due to a change that was implemented in the game less than 24 hours ago.

Let me guess, you’re completely oblivious to this and likely don’t even play on Green?

Nuggie
07-29-2020, 03:42 PM
I'm on Green right now. Nuggiemag. Read the sig.

drackgon
07-29-2020, 03:44 PM
Nuggies a super good dude on green ran a great guild as well until things happened. I for one respect the guy and wish he'd come raid.

douglas1999
07-29-2020, 04:16 PM
The problem with P99 is the majority of players (at least on Green) are total shitbags that have no shame

They will steamroll you over camps and act like total psychopathic dickheads. Especially in high zem zones. Zones with big zems are like a magnet for the worst kind of player on the server.

Really? You have personal experience with the "majority of players" on green such that you can make such a definitive statement? I think it's more likely you've had a handful of negative experiences and they stick out in your mind more because that's basic psychology. You don't remember all the times people are just normal and not insane.

cd288
07-29-2020, 04:22 PM
I played EverQuest for years. I can't tell you how many times I was camping Sarnak Fort, or Captain Room in KC only to have another group simply plop down in front of mine and start taking our pulls, in some cases bluntly stating that if we don't have the DPS to keep up with them, then that's not their problem. I can't tell you how many times I had been camping something for hours, only to have a higher level player show up, refuse to communicate with me, and proceed to steal the mob I was camping as soon as it popped.

Well yes of course it happened, but that doesn't mean it was within the scope of the rules. Captain Room would definitely have been something we enforced if it was caught in real time. The Sarnak Fort situation would have been enforced if they were taking your pulls after you had engaged them. But again, we'd have to see that in real time, which is admittedly difficult since we have to get to the petition, get to the scene, and observe which doesn't always happen before the situation is over.

I myself was a Guide for years on the Prexus server. I very seldom would even waste my time responding to someone who filled out a petition complaining about someone stealing pulls or kills, and there are thousands of threads that still exist from 20 years ago that confirm this.

I'm surprised you were a Guide for "years" if you were ignoring petitions. We carefully monitored Guide activity and if the system saw you pull a petition and just put it back in the queue or claiming it as resolved without doing anything you would've been quickly spoken with about that. Also, how were you a Guide for years in a row if you were also in like the special forces for years? The Guide program as actual CSR support didn't last that long in the early 2000s; so if you were in the Middle East at that time I would've been surprised if you could meet the weekly hours requirement to stay a Guide for multiple years in a row. And if you weren't in the service until later then how old were you when the Guide program was going on? Are you saying you were 18+ as of 1999 (age requirement to be a Guide) and then joined the military in like your early 30s and that's why you were in the Middle East later rather than in the early 2000s? The timeline just doesn't seem to add up.

I think the only time I ever took action against another player for stealing pulls was in OverThere. I can actually remember that someone had been stealing my pulls at the same time on Tunare, so when I saw someone else doing it on Prexus, I was seeking retribution and I got it. Otherwise I wouldn't have even bothered going there to see what was happening.

So basically what we have learned from this and your other comment above, you were a shitty Guide (if you were one). You ignored petitions for kill stealing and things like that instead of doing the job you volunteered to do and enforcing the rules. At any rate, you being a shitty Guide and not doing your job doesn't mean that there were no rules. It just means that for some reason you weren't willing to help enforce the rules and help players who had been victimized. Sounds like you just wanted to try and do the bare minimum to get a free monthly subscription. But again, I'd be surprised if all of that is true because we carefully monitored Guides and kicked many out of the program for not enforcing the rules and following the CSR guidebook.

Lastly, I can remember getting my T-staff literally ninja'd not only after the group leader originally said the group was NBG, but even after I won the random when he recanted. The GMs simply told me that even though he said NBG and I won the /random, that there wasn't enough evidence for them to do anything about it and that I needed to be more careful about who I choose to group with in the future.

Verant and SOE were very hands off, and still are - even to this day.

Had you logged the conversation you had with him via using the in game function at that time to do so? If not, then yes there would be little CSR could do to help you on a claim that the guy had agreed to NBG previously.

cd288
07-29-2020, 04:24 PM
Really? You have personal experience with the "majority of players" on green such that you can make such a definitive statement? I think it's more likely you've had a handful of negative experiences and they stick out in your mind more because that's basic psychology. You don't remember all the times people are just normal and not insane.

I would edit his statement to say that it's not the majority of players, but it's a select group of players who usually are part of the number 1 or 2 guild on the server. Often, they dick you out of valuable camps that are either directly or indirectly beneficial to the guild. The guild does not kick them because of said benefit. And then they get to do all the raiding, find groups with guildies, etc. because they are in the top 1 or 2 guilds on the server...so their reputation as a jerk doesn't really hinder them that much.

N0tClassic
07-29-2020, 05:50 PM
Really? You have personal experience with the "majority of players" on green such that you can make such a definitive statement? I think it's more likely you've had a handful of negative experiences and they stick out in your mind more because that's basic psychology. You don't remember all the times people are just normal and not insane.

The majority of players on this server have no shame when it comes to either experience or loot

The majority of GM resources are spent reading over affidavits written by Johnney Cockring regarding FTE disputes

Jeffari
07-29-2020, 06:10 PM
A big one-two punch by cd288 straight to RecondoJoe's glass jaw! And down goes RecondoJoe! Joe has hit the canvas ladies and gentlemen! It's over! It's all over! cd288 wins!!

Skarne
07-29-2020, 06:15 PM
I wish you 2 guys arguing and your 2 supporters were actually only 2 people arguing with 4 accounts that would make me lol.

cd288
07-29-2020, 06:42 PM
I wish you 2 guys arguing and your 2 supporters were actually only 2 people arguing with 4 accounts that would make me lol.

Plot twist, I am RecondoJoe

Tethler
07-29-2020, 06:49 PM
I've only been playing P99 for about 2-3 months

Caroll
07-29-2020, 07:12 PM
I never said it was. You know it's been 20 years and I'm still angry at some of the people who fucked me over on this game.

Domo
07-29-2020, 07:36 PM
I like the passion some people bring to this Flame forum, Its also a good way to let some of the frustration out.
I think that Trashtalking and flaming is kind of part of the game. Not everyone enjoys it, but you arnt forced to join this lovely shithole.

Arteker
07-29-2020, 08:49 PM
it`s classic,
the problem is u expect people behave like they did 20 years ago.Modern gamers are greedy scumfuckers wich will cut ur dick and stuffle it in your cherry bottom if they can just for the lul and the rush to hummilate any other human bein.

Skarne
07-29-2020, 09:01 PM
Plot twist, I am RecondoJoe

Rofl

Bigsham
07-29-2020, 09:04 PM
The original Ultima Online gave the players the ability to police themselves (Open World PVP)

They should create a Guild War system on P99 that automatically flags a guild war once a guild successfully kills a raid target. All guilds that have killed a raid mob are flagged PVP to all the other guilds that have also done so.

Guilds can create alliances that removes this flag between the guilds that have formed the alliance. Example: Federation wouldn't be PVP flagged between each other. Only to other guilds that have successfully killed a raid target outside of their alliance.

PVP would be based on level and guild membership. Will never happen but it would certainly create a possibility for resolution beyond bitching in RnF. Would definitely make the game a lot more interesting and put an end to cock blocking pixels.

Let the guilds police themselves with open world PVP - GMs take a hands off approach and watch it burn

This is why we had a red server, it was amazing

sorry you didnt try it

i have no idea why people play blue ( or green ) when you cant do anything to other players

cd288
07-29-2020, 09:07 PM
This is why we had a red server, it was amazing

sorry you didnt try it

i have no idea why people play blue ( or green ) when you cant do anything to other players

We had a red server that was amazing? How would you know? You showed up in January of this year

Arteker
07-29-2020, 09:09 PM
This is why we had a red server, it was amazing

sorry you didnt try it

i have no idea why people play blue ( or green ) when you cant do anything to other players

Cuz pvp in eq was always bad as fuck, what people where fond was doing ganks and train people with impunity,

if pvp in live was good why most zekers went to stormhammer during luclin pop to gear up to stand a chance to fight back.

if people wanted that kind of stuff they could always go uo.

Bigsham
07-29-2020, 09:13 PM
it`s classic,
the problem is u expect people behave like they did 20 years ago.Modern gamers are greedy scumfuckers wich will cut ur dick and stuffle it in your cherry bottom if they can just for the lul and the rush to hummilate any other human bein.

Yup

Bigsham
07-29-2020, 09:13 PM
We had a red server that was amazing? How would you know? You showed up in January of this year

Well my first forum account steaks got banned sorry , id still be posting on that one

cd288
07-29-2020, 09:19 PM
Well my first forum account steaks got banned sorry , id still be posting on that one

Seems like you’re on a good track to have another account banned

Nuggie
07-29-2020, 09:57 PM
This is why we had a red server, it was amazing



I did try it. I got a shaman up to 46(I owned a twink paladin in MM, that was kinda fun). There was like 5 people my level to play with. It was -amazing-

oh wait...

no it wasn't

Snortles Chortles
07-29-2020, 10:21 PM
oh this guy again
wb

azeth
07-29-2020, 10:39 PM
Uh you must not have played ultima online in 1997-98

I can hear your dorito crusted fingers slamming your cherry mx reds

Kohedron
07-29-2020, 10:45 PM
I'm curious how many times OP rigorously rubbed his taint and sniffed his fingers whilst constructing this fine manifesto

Bardp1999
07-29-2020, 11:03 PM
Raiding on P99 isn't even about the content. It's about fucking over other players.

Denying others loot and then gloating is as classic as classic gets

N0tClassic
07-29-2020, 11:57 PM
Denying others loot and then gloating is as classic as classic gets

That's the real end game of EQ Classic I agree

Trexller
07-30-2020, 12:52 PM
Denying others loot and then gloating is as classic as classic gets

+1

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 04:02 PM
I'm also angry at a player named Vodka, who ninja looted Essence of the Cyclone off of Heroic Halfus during Cataclysm. The other tank didn't know what he was doing, so he stood in meteor strike and got 1-shotted. I not only solo tanked the entire encounter, I spent 6 minutes DPS'ing it down after the entire raid wiped, only to have the item ninja looted. When I left, about 15 minutes later the same guy asked if I was coming back or not (to finish the rest of the raid). When I told him he done lost his fucking mind, he said I was a bad tank and didn't deserve the trinket, and I'm just sitting here thinking how in the actual fuck? I literally solo'd this entire fight for the raid because y'all are so fucking noob. I'm playing an alt at the time, and not only had 60+ Heroic Halfus kills on that account, 12+ of them were with that character, in raids I actually led. Ain't no god damn way they were getting passed Heroic Valiona and Theralion anyways.

Dude was a massive piece of shit. Anytime I'm playing WoW and I run into a player from Sargeras, I'm like "so, do you know this guy named Vodka?" My blood starts boiling just thinking about this *****t.

Psionide
07-30-2020, 05:08 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how pathetically hardcore people take a emu server of a game that released 2 decades ago.

douglas1999
07-30-2020, 05:26 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how pathetically hardcore people take a emu server of a game that released 2 decades ago.

It never ceases to amaze me how retarded this attitude is that gets brought up again and again and again. Would it somehow be less pathetic to take a brand NEW elf game really seriously? Who gives a shit if it's old? Chess is old as fuck and people take that pretty seriously.

There are lots of things to make fun of in everquest but it just being old is a total non-point.

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 05:45 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how retarded this attitude is that gets brought up again and again and again. Would it somehow be less pathetic to take a brand NEW elf game really seriously? Who gives a shit if it's old? Chess is old as fuck and people take that pretty seriously.

There are lots of things to make fun of in everquest but it just being old is a total non-point.

I agree with both of y'all.

There is a disproportionate number of players whose entire goal is to be greedy and fuck other players over. My theory is that it's been 10 years since, and that most of the people who still remain are middle-aged people who are in the prime age bracket for having Hoarding disorder.

However, I recognize that the items do have real world value, and that people have every right to take them seriously. I would literally rather go to work for 40 hours than camp FBSS for 40 hours (and I know multiple people who have done this).

hobart
07-30-2020, 05:54 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how retarded this attitude is that gets brought up again and again and again. Would it somehow be less pathetic to take a brand NEW elf game really seriously? Who gives a shit if it's old? Chess is old as fuck and people take that pretty seriously.

There are lots of things to make fun of in everquest but it just being old is a total non-point.

Bingo! Even a stopped clock is right twice per day I guess.

Imagine imagining living rent free in someone's head over a 203 year old emulated elf simulator in 2020.

Tankwipe
07-30-2020, 06:17 PM
oh this guy again
wb
Lifeblood of RnF honestly

cd288
07-30-2020, 07:47 PM
Note he didn’t address the discrepancies in his timeline of being a guide for years but also being in the military and special forces for years

Tankwipe
07-30-2020, 08:07 PM
Note he didn’t address the discrepancies in his timeline of being a guide for years but also being in the military and special forces for years

It's fine he's like 80, it explains his bad attitude

Bigsham
07-30-2020, 08:31 PM
Note he didn’t address the discrepancies in his timeline of being a guide for years but also being in the military and special forces for years

Look at me im a guide and in the military for years !

LOOK AT ME

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 09:42 PM
Look at me im a guide and in the military for years !

LOOK AT ME

I’m also one of the best Tree Climbers on the East Coast. (https://www.facebook.com/achromatic.carina/videos/vb.100005007939929/1396645537179031/?type=3). Line-clearance is the hardest and most dangerous jobs I’ve ever had. Out of a hundred people we hire as apprentices less than 1% actually make it. Kid at the end of the video shot himself in the head after failing to make A-climber and getting removed from the climbing crew. Forever RIP.

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 09:45 PM
Oh and I was a paramedic for 2 years. I guess I probably really am the most badass person who ever played P99, and it never would have happened without COVID19. For that I am eternally grateful.

Tankwipe
07-30-2020, 10:39 PM
I’m also one of the best Tree Climbers on the East Coast. (https://www.facebook.com/achromatic.carina/videos/vb.100005007939929/1396645537179031/?type=3). Line-clearance is the hardest and most dangerous jobs I’ve ever had. Out of a hundred people we hire as apprentices less than 1% actually make it. Kid at the end of the video shot himself in the head after failing to make A-climber and getting removed from the climbing crew. Forever RIP.

wow that is like so impressive man good job come here so I can pat your back

Swish
07-30-2020, 10:41 PM
Oh and I was a paramedic for 2 years. I guess I probably really am the most badass person who ever played P99, and it never would have happened without COVID19. For that I am eternally grateful.

That's sort of like a young doctor, isnt it?

Skarne
07-30-2020, 11:01 PM
“And for legal reasons I was not physically present during the filming of any part of this video” dude...the fact you use this video as proof for your claim with that disclaimer is god damn hilarious to me along with that $4 “customized” patch on eBay. The only thing I know for sure is that you play Everquest and complain about it a lot.

Woke Locc
07-30-2020, 11:10 PM
“And for legal reasons I was not physically present during the filming of any part of this video” dude...the fact you use this video as proof for your claim with that disclaimer is god damn hilarious to me along with that $4 “customized” patch on eBay. The only thing I know for sure is that you play Everquest and complain about it a lot.

That's a really weird disclaimer.

What's up Mike?

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 11:15 PM
That's sort of like a young doctor, isnt it?

People who can't become Paramedics (usually because they arent strong enough) become doctors instead.

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 11:16 PM
That's a really weird disclaimer.

What's up Mike?

Safety is really big in the ARBORIST world. Someone actually got fired (albeit re-hired a day later) for not wearing safety glasses in that video. Within 12 hours of it being uploaded I had to remove it because it started circulating through all the DAVEY's in the country and got to corporate.

cd288
07-30-2020, 11:20 PM
Oh and I was a paramedic for 2 years. I guess I probably really am the most badass person who ever played P99, and it never would have happened without COVID19. For that I am eternally grateful.

Lol this guy really just likes making shit up

RecondoJoe
07-30-2020, 11:44 PM
Lol this guy really just likes making shit up

I wonder if you can tell me what the name of the green thing behind me is (https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51541333_1301637146679871_128452189671653376_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ZzFi7XaPwRwAX-Muu_u&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=60cf230ae934b8222117af3938fc0900&oe=5F491C68). And what it's capabilities are.

Skarne
07-31-2020, 03:51 AM
I wonder if you can tell me what the name of the green thing behind me is (https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51541333_1301637146679871_128452189671653376_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ZzFi7XaPwRwAX-Muu_u&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=60cf230ae934b8222117af3938fc0900&oe=5F491C68). And what it's capabilities are.

Nice LRAS but I’m sure mr CD doesn’t have time to visit a military forum and type out all its capabilities. You don’t show yourself in a video about trees due to legal reasons, but freely claim you’re ex special forces and talk about your “missions” which would be classified if you were as such. You may have been in the military, but you were a leg and you know it. I’ll bet you didn’t even get your jump wings. How’d you like HALO school though, mr green beret?

RecondoJoe
07-31-2020, 03:57 AM
Oh look. Words on a screen.

Skarne
07-31-2020, 04:50 AM
I know it’s hard for you buddy. I’m sorry you feel the need to embellish and lie about your life to internet elves. Just remember next time to come up with something a little more believable. Also, it’d help to write down your stories so you can keep track. You never have to remember the truth though so I recommend that as well.

RecondoJoe
07-31-2020, 04:55 AM
https://i.imgur.com/X58yewq.gif

Skarne
07-31-2020, 05:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/X58yewq.gif

Good for you not typing paragraphs and paragraphs of a response. That shows growth! Hope you have a nice day and try not to lie to anyone today. One step at a time.

RecondoJoe
07-31-2020, 05:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IEHoTJq.gif

cd288
07-31-2020, 08:58 AM
I wonder if you can tell me what the name of the green thing behind me is (https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51541333_1301637146679871_128452189671653376_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ZzFi7XaPwRwAX-Muu_u&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=60cf230ae934b8222117af3938fc0900&oe=5F491C68). And what it's capabilities are.

Lol did you go find another photo on the Internet to copy and post it here?

We know that at least some of what you’ve said is total BS since your timelines for guiding and being special forces etc don’t match up giving the age you would’ve had to be at the time and how you wouldn’t have been doing both of those things at once. Oh and don’t forget guys he was also a paramedic even though he said in another thread that because he was in the military and didn’t go to school he just does manual labor for a job.

Saddest individual on these forums lol

Arteker
07-31-2020, 09:22 AM
Lol did you go find another photo on the Internet to copy and post it here?

We know that at least some of what you’ve said is total BS since your timelines for guiding and being special forces etc don’t match up giving the age you would’ve had to be at the time and how you wouldn’t have been doing both of those things at once. Oh and don’t forget guys he was also a paramedic even though he said in another thread that because he was in the military and didn’t go to school he just does manual labor for a job.

Saddest individual on these forums lol

i have a strong vibe we beret of the new incarnation of l`ron

pogs4ever
07-31-2020, 09:59 AM
PNP closely matches my experience in 99 classic. We also had raid rotations. I lucked out to play on a civilized server.

RecondoJoe
07-31-2020, 01:18 PM
go find another photo on the Internet to copy and post it here

I sho’ did. (https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/62120381_1403973806446204_172285101181239296_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=7aed08&_nc_ohc=H2H0n-1rLMwAX9eQVfS&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=6&oh=a9b1966d020ab0cf800d14f722e7a25d&oe=5F48B7E7)

RecondoJoe
07-31-2020, 01:29 PM
I swam at this lake as a child. Never had any clue I would come back and climb trees (https://www.facebook.com/achromatic.carina/videos/vb.100005007939929/1242606139249639/?type=3) one day. Gotta’ keep those power lines clear though.

Filbert
07-31-2020, 05:44 PM
I never said it was. You know it's been 20 years and I'm still angry at some of the people who fucked me over on this game. You would think bygones will be bygones, but when people aren't held accountable for their toxic behavior, and likely never changed, it's hard for me to look back and think "I forgive that 40 year old man who stole a Tranquil Staff off of me and proceeded to viciously cyber bully me, suggesting that I commit suicide, knowing that I was a 12 year old kid at the time."

That was me youngster.

RecondoJoe
07-31-2020, 10:48 PM
That was me youngster.

Looked him up a couple of weeks ago. Big shocker, he's now homeless.

Argh
07-31-2020, 11:41 PM
You found out he was homeless by looking up his thirty year old Everquest character name?

Snortles Chortles
07-31-2020, 11:56 PM
Argh

RecondoJoe
08-01-2020, 02:15 AM
You found out he was homeless by looking up his thirty year old Everquest character name?

I googled his ezboard (the forums from back then) name, and found him on Reddit and looked at his post history to see a very, very, very sad existence.

hobart
08-01-2020, 02:31 AM
I googled his ezboard (the forums from back then) name, and found him on Reddit and looked at his post history to see a very, very, very sad existence.

Reduced to posting on the P99 boards lying about RL accomplishments? Or not that sad?

RecondoJoe
08-01-2020, 02:34 AM
Reduced to posting on the P99 boards lying about RL accomplishments? Or not that sad?

I don't think he has any. I'm kind of a rare individual, and y'all are blessed to have me.

Tethler
08-01-2020, 04:46 AM
I googled his ezboard (the forums from back then) name, and found him on Reddit and looked at his post history to see a very, very, very sad existence.

Funny. People looking your posts on the p99 forum might come to the same conclusion.

RecondoJoe
08-01-2020, 04:48 AM
Funny. People looking your posts on the p99 forum might come to the same conclusion.

Maybe you should level up your Wizard next so you can have two useless level 50 characters.

Vizax_Xaziv
08-01-2020, 05:17 AM
This server is filled with a bunch of assholes

Raiding on P99 isn't even about the content. It's about fucking over other players. I guarantee that whoever is hoarding Summon Corpse pixels is getting a lot more enjoyment out of doing that than by raiding any dragons.

Go to any high ZEM zone. Nothing but whining and what constitutes a camp in OOC. PnP is out the window. People are straight up a bunch of pricks and will hoard multiple camps if they can get away with it and be total dicks about it.

The mentality of the modern gamer can't coexist within the development of a 20 year old MMO. EQ's Design is archaic. People are shitheads. It's oil and water.

Lol! This is THE perfect explanation of P99 endgame! Well stated my friend!

Vizax_Xaziv
08-01-2020, 05:19 AM
The original Ultima Online gave the players the ability to police themselves (Open World PVP)

They should create a Guild War system on P99 that automatically flags a guild war once a guild successfully kills a raid target. All guilds that have killed a raid mob are flagged PVP to all the other guilds that have also done so.

Guilds can create alliances that removes this flag between the guilds that have formed the alliance. Example: Federation wouldn't be PVP flagged between each other. Only to other guilds that have successfully killed a raid target outside of their alliance.

PVP would be based on level and guild membership. Will never happen but it would certainly create a possibility for resolution beyond bitching in RnF. Would definitely make the game a lot more interesting and put an end to cock blocking pixels.

Let the guilds police themselves with open world PVP - GMs take a hands off approach and watch it burn

Problem is that EQ is so heavily gear-dependent that one guild ultimately dominates all PVP due to their gear alone.

cd288
08-01-2020, 11:17 AM
Reduced to posting on the P99 boards lying about RL accomplishments? Or not that sad?

/thread