The Joe Biden Drops Out thread

[Patriam1066]

Is that supposed to be a compliment to Democrats? LOL

It’s supposed to tell you that dementia is less bad than whatever trump has going on in his brain

Biden wins a close election because he holds the Midwest and takes Florida. Move to resolved

[Baler]

Both options suck
Democrats had a chance to rally the trump haters,
They dropped the ball picking biden.

[Patriam1066]

Biden is a decent person. He’s actually a great pick to win the suburbs and not scare aware republicans (like me)

We shall see though. There’s a nonzero chance he looks senile in a debate and loses the election

[DMN]

The only thing republican about you is your imagination, fat boy.

[BlackBellamy]

Biden is a decent person. He’s actually a great pick to win the suburbs and not scare aware republicans (like me)

We shall see though. There’s a nonzero chance he looks senile in a debate and loses the election

He's not a decent person. He's a shady career politician who spend 50 years in D.C. enriching himself, his family and his friends. He looks like a decent person and he has a habit of speaking like one unless he thinks he's not being recorded then he speaks like the Machiavellian power-player that he is. Decent people aren't plagiarists, decent people don't conspire to launch fake investigations designed to topple incoming administrations and decent people don't use state powers to funnel money into the pockets of their drug addict sons.

[Blingy]

Neil degrasse tyson is a worse fraud than biden and trump combined. Hes a moron

Fill me in please. Although I don't 100% agree with him on everything he talks about he's the best I can come up with. What about him makes him shit?

[Blingy]

So one of my oldest friends is a CPA. He posted this regarding Biden and his tax plan. Thoughts?

Generally, as a CPA I am very interested in the campaign process. I follow each candidate's tax ideas into plans and compare and contrast that they are saying with the current tax code. They say things like "raise the tax on the rich" or "cut corporate tax" I have to deduce what they mean, as "rich" usually means "makes twice as much as I do" until it is quantified, and by "corporate tax" -what do they mean -- is it C Corp income tax, S-Corp/Partnership flow through, or payroll taxes/FICA/Medicare?

Usually, I have rough tax plans during the primaries. The only plan that was in the democratic primaries was "I can beat Trump" and "Trump is really screwing up this Covid thing, isn't he?" I recently got Biden's tax plan and I am at a loss figuring out what the heck he is trying to do, other than randomly tax what he considers "rich".

Change 1 - raise top rate (income above 400k) from 37-39.6%. Essentially putting it back where it was before it was lowered in 2017. Ok, not much change there -- that effects <2% of Americans.

Change 2 - cap the rate of itemized deductions at 28%. Weird - not much benefit, itemized deductions were severely limited by 2017 act, and this just complicates it. Sure - it makes more work (translation I charge more) for me, but I don't see it doing anything.

Change 3 - (this is the strange one) Income above 400k to be subject to FICA and Medicare. Currently, FICA drops off at 137,700 (indexed, raises). Medicare has no limit, but increases the employer portion after 200k. This will create a shell between $137,700 and 400k where FICA would not exist, and it would kick back in after that. And you thought you could figure this out with a calculator... Silly rabbit, taxes are for expensive software packages.

Change 4 - The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) reduced corporate income taxes to 21% from 35%. He proposes hiking that back to 28%.

Change 5 - Institute an Alternative Minimum Tax on Corporations -- based on their taxable income, but triggered by their book income. I know you don't know what that means. Let's just assume that tax accountants will make more money as I'm going to have to figure out what the heck that means, and I'm going to charge someone for it.

Change 6 - Corporations need to pay more tax on foreign income. While it sounds like "let's tax those bastards for taking jobs overseas!", what it really means is, "Our long time US company has closed it's US headquarters and is now headquartered in Ireland.." To understand what that means, companies doing worldwide business don't have to be located in the united states, and they are only taxed on their activities in the US. United States corporations that grow, when they move to business outside of the US, their taxes get more complicated. The TCJA changed that to the better, making it more of a territorial tax from a worldwide tax system (income is taxes in the country where it originates). Taxing Foreign Income makes it more of a worldwide tax, and will push companies to not repatriate income to the US.

Change 7 - Raise the capital gains rate on (households above 1M) -- he doesn't give the rate, but current top rate is 23.8%. Meh. Lip service.

Change 8 - Revert the Estate Exemption back to preTCJA levels (5M), and most importantly -- do away with the Step Up in Basis. This is HUGE. The "step up in basis" basically means that your basis (cost) of the inherited item is the value of the item on the date of death. What is really means is that ALL OF THE ESTATE IS TAXED, UNLESS YOU JUST KEEP THE ASSETS. In other words, your grandpa buys a house for $17,000 in 1975. He gives it to his 4 kids when he dies. The current market value is $500,000 and they have to sell it to divide it. In the past, the house would have been valued at 500k, no gain - each kid gets 125k - easy peasy. Now, each kid gets 125k property, 120,750 in gain. It depends how it is computed, but likely short term capital gain - or regular income (24% Fed, 6.9% Idaho) or $83,438 each. "But I thought only Estates over 5M were taxed?

Our grandpa's estate wasn't over 5M, why do I have to pay tax on it????" Lol. Guess what - that's not easy to compute, and another portion of that goes to the CPA that has to figure that crap out.

My overall grade -- D. The income changes or itemized deduction changes don't make a difference or raise much revenue. Changing FICA levels all over the place just makes a complex area of tax much more complicated.

Raising corporate tax rates (what about S-Corp earnings - do they change? Schedule C? Partnerships? Rental Income?) and taxing foreign corporate earnings appear to want to drive corporations out of the US and might do much more harm than good. A corporate AMT might be good for tax flow, but generally only helps tax preparers generate money as AMT is generally credited when income goes back up. Not a real revenue generator - just a way to front-load collections. The step-up in basis estate modification is a game changer and would easily generate boatloads of revenue by taking ~20% of all estates without calling it estate tax - just calling it capital gains.
Let me know your thoughts (tax related - I don't want to hear your "he's incompetent" or your "anything is better than Trump" crap -- I'm just talking about taxes...)

[Bigsham]

Biden is a decent person?

he is like all democrats, pretends to represent / help the poor but just wants to profit off them, also 100% creepy pedo

[BlackBellamy]

So one of my oldest friends is a CPA. He posted this regarding Biden and his tax plan. Thoughts?

Tax plans are something to fill the void. Oh you don't have a tax plan? All candidates have tax plans, where is yours? Ahh there we go, now you're a serious candidate.

Here's the fate of all tax plans: I am the President and I have a tax plan! Oh it's so good, let's get it passed! Hey what's going on with my tax plan? Is it passed yet? Can you guys pass my tax plan? Whoa, this doesn't look like my tax plan! This is the opposite of my tax plan! ... You know what? It's a good tax plan! I support this new tax plan totally opposite of what I said before!

[Bigsham]

there is some truth to that, candidates always talk about stuff they are going to do but at the end of the day they cant really do anything by themselves.

[BlackBellamy]

there is some truth to that, candidates always talk about stuff they are going to do but at the end of the day they cant really do anything by themselves.

You know one thing they can do and no one can stop them? Make up new nations right on the spot! Like for example you go to Trump and say 'hi I'm the ambassador for Marioland', and Trump is like 'ok you've been received good luck' and boom there you are and Marioland officially exists. I mean you still have to raise armed forces and issue currency yourself, but this the genius part. You say 'hey can I buy some armed forces from you Mr. Trump' and he's like 'sure, here's some old F-16s' and you're like 'yeah here's some new money I just printed'. And then you use your F-16s to like bomb Libya or Norway and take their oil wells and then you get actual dollars from the oil. Now you're in business! Of course you hand 40% to Trump as agreed.

[A Knight]

i'm from another dimension but i get all yalls internet and news, its annoying.

i mean, im grateful for the internet.

[Bigsham]

I mean borat got in the white house pretending to be president of khazikstan then took a shit in the bushes outside after

[BlackBellamy]

Newest Joe Biden ad designed to run during the GOP convention tonight.

https://imgur.com/Nuhvdc8.jpg

They spent 26 million dollars this week on ads. Look what all that money gets you:

https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1298996040004038656

The first 30 seconds: Joe Biden is very energetic! Look at him run! <Action music plays> He is getting things done! He has plans and is ready to go!

30 seconds almost all the way to the end: Cue Sad Joe! <Slow sleepy music> He knows pain. He's ... not sure but it's a pretty depressing 90 seconds.

Last 5 seconds: <Music ramps up!> And so vote for Joe!

Jesus that's awful.

[zodium]

Vote!

[magnetaress]

What happens if Joe achkchualy wins this?

Big J

Big Joe?

Is Joe etymological with jehovah ywh or jew?

[Woke Locc]

Newest Joe Biden ad designed to run during the GOP convention tonight.

https://imgur.com/Nuhvdc8.jpg

They spent 26 million dollars this week on ads. Look what all that money gets you:

https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1298996040004038656

The first 30 seconds: Joe Biden is very energetic! Look at him run! <Action music plays> He is getting things done! He has plans and is ready to go!

30 seconds almost all the way to the end: Cue Sad Joe! <Slow sleepy music> He knows pain. He's ... not sure but it's a pretty depressing 90 seconds.

Last 5 seconds: <Music ramps up!> And so vote for Joe!

Jesus that's awful.

He rode a bike

[zodium]

What happens if Joe achkchualy wins this?

Big J

Big Joe?

Is Joe etymological with jehovah ywh or jew?

when he wins, there will be crushing austerity.

[solleks]

If joe win or trump win same thing happen.jews have us kill browns with rc cars and blame it on us as our country dies of an obese heart attack

[Jimjam]

If JB gets votes in then USA gonna have its first black president within 4 years.

[magnetaress]

I had to look up austerity. I am woefully worried that we'll continue to decline into a state with an entrenched administrative and bureaucratic class that basically steals and nepotizes all state capital. While legislating away free enterprise through liscencesing and liability models, like nurses needing nursing insurance plus never earning a wage out of the debt they paid for the privilege of wiping poop and data entering stool volumes.

But we are kinda arguably there already.

In all honesty, who should I vote for? Woke loccs voice ways heavily here.

[solleks]

Write in Kimbo Slice

[magnetaress]

Write in Kimbo Slice

I should, bet a racist nurse got him or malpractice especially sporting that Chad beard.

Probably stole his organs to save an elderly white man with hepatitis.

[Jimjam]

Yeah the UK suffered under a decade of austerity.

Sure, cutting costs and bloat in government finance is applaudable, but unfortunately all government spending was viewed as a cost, none of it was seen as an investment.

This was a huge mistake as this investment either was excellent cost mitigation (eg broken window theory) , increased the value of the economy (infrastructure improvements that create immediate jobs and facilitate future business) or straight up earned the government money (e.g. primary healthcare where preventative medicine can greatly increase the working life and reduce sick days for tax payers ergo creating much more income for the government AND strengthening the economy AND reducing social costs of unemployment AND reducing healthcare costs by nipping cases in the bud).

[magnetaress]

Yeah the UK suffered under a decade of austerity.

Sure, cutting costs and bloat in government finance is applaudable, but unfortunately all government spending was viewed as a cost, none of it was seen as an investment.

This was a huge mistake as this investment either was excellent cost mitigation (eg broken window theory) , increased the value of the economy (infrastructure improvements that create immediate jobs and facilitate future business) or straight up earned the government money (e.g. primary healthcare where preventative medicine can greatly increase the working life and reduce sick days for tax payers ergo creating much more income for the government AND strengthening the economy AND reducing social costs of unemployment AND reducing healthcare costs by nipping cases in the bud).

I think we're going to be waiting 4 more years before those expectations can even be reallistically addressed.


I was at the VA when covid hit.

My feels feel like everyone got sick. Staff. Patients. There was zero gain in quality of life for anyone. And foreign medical suppliers made xxx $$$ xxx on tests and like gimmicks like chlorine gas sterilizers.

The walls where covered in shit and many people died without an ounce of pain relief.

I don't have high hopes Biden can help in any way, or would personally.

Woe to the BLM guys not even registered except as felons. Let alone middle class people shoehornd into the ACA.

I don't have the heart to go out whitebread style but like I see essentially little hope either way.

A tiny voice in my head says endure four more years of orange man bad and just ignore the kids killing each other over universal basic hotpockets because it will unify the able bodied thru adversity.

I also just want to put faith my friends family 👪 and community and just use 🙏 and ❤ love.

[Jimjam]

US is divided. Will 4 more years of The Annoying Orange perhaps bring the country to a unifying tipping point?

From my own country I can confirm after 8 years of Conservative Austerity the party changed leadership and then ran on an opposition style campaign of ‘Only the Conservatives can fix this’. People bought it. Obviously they didn’t really fix anything and we got more of the same (until the acoughalypse started).

Perhaps the Republicans need 2 terms of Trump so they can run an ‘Only we can fix the mess we made’ campaign?

[magnetaress]

That was all before the covid news cycle began to ramp up. It wasn't really this admins fault other than they were still business as usual 2012. It'll be probably 8 years minimum before we see any real shift in policy or actual changes coming to effect. Beyond *omgosh this mess was the other guy!!!111*

Ur reading my mind. Honestly idk. And for all the noise that Stephen Miller and bros, skeletor ladies make it's like nothing is different from 2014...

I don't think "trumpism" can be rebuked or put down.. scary italicize for super duper ironic scare quote effect.

There'll never be a real war or revolution either direction because we'll all be too busy starving or growing potatoes and boiling water.

[Jimjam]

That was all before the covid news cycle began to ramp up. It wasn't really this admins fault other than they were still business as usual 2012. It'll be probably 8 years minimum before we see any real shift in policy or actual changes coming to effect. Beyond *omgosh this mess was the other guy!!!111*

Ur reading my mind. Honestly idk. And for all the noise that Stephen Miller and bros, skeletor ladies make it's like nothing is different from 2014...

Well we have our similarities but I think we have some pretty big differences. It is pretty telling that we came to a similar conclusion despite those differences.

The Repubs will present as a cohesive unity this cycle so people vote for strength.

2022-2023 the party will mutiny against Trump so Repub and swing voters can vote for ‘change’ without having to switch to Dem.

[magnetaress]

Well we have our similarities but I think we have some pretty big differences. It is pretty telling that we came to a similar conclusion despite those differences.

The Repubs will present as a cohesive unity this cycle so people vote for strength.

2022-2023 the party will mutiny against Trump so Repub and swing voters can vote for ‘change’ without having to switch to Dem.

I'm going to chill and try to recover my health do something other than post and gain weight regardless who is in charge neither party is going to stand in my way of pursuing a better more responsible life.

[Jimjam]

I'm going to chill and try to recover my health do something other than post and gain weight regardless who is in charge neither party is going to stand in my way of pursuing a better more responsible life.

Way to go!

You totally right, dwelling on negativity does nothing but multiply that energy. Ultimately it’s our own lives and we gotta take control!

I’m gonna live my best life and grab a curry.

[zodium]

I'm going to chill and try to recover my health do something other than post and gain weight regardless who is in charge neither party is going to stand in my way of pursuing a better more responsible life.

this is praxis

Way to go!

You totally right, dwelling on negativity does nothing but multiply that energy. Ultimately it’s our own lives and we gotta take control!

I’m gonna live my best life and grab a curry.

this, however, is liberalism

[magnetaress]

Way to go!

You totally right, dwelling on negativity does nothing but multiply that energy. Ultimately it’s our own lives and we gotta take control!

I’m gonna live my best life and grab a curry.

Cheers. Have a good one 😋

[Jimjam]

Cheers. Have a good one 😋

Was very nice, thank you.

[Castle2.0]

Pelos recently said Joe shouldn't debate Trump.

"Don't campaign,
Don't take questions from media,
Don't debate."

Sounds like they got a LOT of faith in Joe.

[DoodyLich666]

It’s really hard to hide the puppet strings and match the mouth to the audio track in a televised debate.

[Trexller]

Pelos recently said Joe shouldn't debate Trump.

"Don't campaign,
Don't take questions from media,
Don't debate."

Sounds like they got a LOT of faith in Joe.

They don't need to have faith in biden, they just need him to be an old white guy long enough to get his party elected to office. Then they will invoke the 25th amendment, and install some Xi Jinping surrogate.

Or at the very least, they don't need to have any faith in him, they picked him because they know he'll always sign whatever bills/orders that he is told to sign. Biden is the Dem version of G. W. Bush. I guess that makes camela the new cheney.

[BarnabusCollins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ewe74xOlkQ

Always include a poll option for: Jeb rigged Florida

[Woke Locc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ewe74xOlkQ

Always include a poll option for: Jeb rigged Florida

What is the helicopter ride meme you guys keep posting?

Please explain it to the dumb guy :confused:

[Patriam1066]

What is the helicopter ride meme you guys keep posting?

Please explain it to the dumb guy :confused:

I think Augusto Pinochet’s soldiers would fly people out in helicopters and push them out mid flight if they were commies or drug addicts or whatever else. Maybe it was Franco who did that. It was a Beaner of some kind, not sure if Spain or Chile

[Patriam1066]

Pelos recently said Joe shouldn't debate Trump.

"Don't campaign,
Don't take questions from media,
Don't debate."

Sounds like they got a LOT of faith in Joe.

Biden doesn’t need to debate, he’d lose. He’s going to resign 6 months after being inaugurated anyway

[Woke Locc]

I think Augusto Pinochet’s soldiers would fly people out in helicopters and push them out mid flight if they were commies or drug addicts or whatever else. Maybe it was Franco who did that. It was a Beaner of some kind, not sure if Spain or Chile

That kinda seems like murder?

[Rader]

Biden doesn’t need to debate, he’d lose.

Exactly why the libtards wont debate. Chickensh-t losers who can't win in an open and free discussion, they have to fall back on snark and libel, and safe spaces.

<does the chicken dance>

[Patriam1066]

That kinda seems like murder?

Yeah man fascists murder people, don’t shoot the messenger

[Patriam1066]

Exactly why the libtards wont debate. Chickensh-t losers who can't win in an open and free discussion, they have to fall back on snark and libel, and safe spaces.

<does the chicken dance>

If blacks and felons could vote (redundant) republicans could never win anything. Both sides fight dirty. It’s not new, don’t be a snowflake

[Gwaihir]

If blacks and felons could vote (redundant) republicans could never win anything. Both sides fight dirty. It’s not new, don’t be a snowflake

Because in a utopic society, convicts should steer the ship of the country's future.

[Patriam1066]

Maybe we shouldn’t make every 18 year old dumb ass who robs someone a felon

Or just send them back to Africa already. This fence sitting is aggravating

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/qUOn7GM.jpg

[Patriam1066]

Who has been convicted of murder?

[zodium]

remember when patriam was a christian

lol

[magnetaress]

I know which accounts are dinos now and thats good enough for me!

I had a good smile when I figured it out. ;)

[Jimjam]

Damn you finally figured me out.

[Jimjam]

Whoops, wrong account. How do I delete?

[PieOats]

Nevermind, figured it out.

[PieOats]

FnCK!!

[douglas1999]

https://i.imgur.com/qUOn7GM.jpg

lol

start with premise nobody is saying, react as if they are.

If the riots turn out to be a big ironic joke, I'm pretty sure I'd actually respect that for the comedy value. i think people actually believe in it though :(

[Trexller]

do as we say, not as we do.

Communists just make up reality as they go, and state it as truth, behind the concept of, "what are you gonna do about it"

example: china claims there are no human rights abuses in the Uihgur concentration camps, while every other outlet produces evidence of such abuses.

[BarnabusCollins]

DNC went a full week and never mentioned any rioting. Cause it's their doing.

[hobart]

DNC went a full week and never mentioned any rioting. Cause it's their doing.

In the exact same way that the RNC is to blame when individual cops murder citizens. Which is, btw, not at all for those keeping score at home.

Ur dum.

[Trexller]

In the exact same way that the RNC is to blame when individual cops murder citizens. Which is, btw, not at all for those keeping score at home.

Ur dum.

The left is absolutely responsible for the burning, looting and murders occuring in, you guessed it, Dem controlled cities.

This is their attempt to coast biden into office in nov.

Keep the rest of the country distracted, do not let biden speak in public unscripted, do not let biden debate trump. Create civil unrest even worse than the 1960s and then blame anyone who attempts to reign in the absolute chaos.

I'll state again, that it is EXTREMELY easy to not get shot by cops. 99% of the time, you asked for it. Regular citizens shoot other citizens with exponentially higher rates than cop related shootings. The difference? Your liberal media doesn't report it.

They pretend it didn't exist, attempting to trick impressionable snowflakes into believing that cop related shootings are an everyday thing with cowboy cops shooting indiscriminately at people of color.

Not a single liberal outlet reported on this act of savagery. Why? because it doesn't fit their white people bad narrative.

https://www.wbtw.com/georgetown-county-news/3-injured-in-georgetown-county-shooting-suspect-on-the-run/

This is how the liberal media reports on arson. Why? Because its their best attempt to spin felony crimes into "peaceful protest".

https://i.imgur.com/UU0Bzr4.jpg

This is how the divine BLM party responds to a guy shooting himself. They claimed police shot him and then proceeded to loot and destroy a Target store

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/crowd-gathers-looting-breaks-out-in-minneapolis-amid-misinformation-about-mans-suicide

[Evia]

The end is nigh

[Trexller]

The end is nigh

unfortunately not soon enough :(

[zodium]

imagine thinking that the dems are the left

lol

[Patriam1066]

imagine thinking that the dems are the left

lol

We finally agree!!! Obama and Hillary are center-right

[Woke Locc]

https://i.imgur.com/UU0Bzr4.jpg


Funny pic

[Trexller]

Yeah "imagine" thinking there is any excuse, ever, under any circumstances for shit like that.

[BarnabusCollins]

Just a peaceful bonfire of downtown businesses

[Patriam1066]

Jokes on them, they just won trump Wisconsin

[Tethler]

Man, look at all this destruction going on under Trump's watch.

[douglas1999]

Man, look at all this destruction going on under Trump's watch.

You can tell he really gets a fair shake by the media too cause if he tries to do anything about it they say he's hitler sending in "stormtroopers", and if he doesn't do anything about it they say it's all his fault arghhh!!

I dunno I personally think it's the fault of the people doing it but I'm weird like that.

[Rader]

You can tell he really gets a fair shake by the media too cause if he tries to do anything about it they say he's hitler sending in "stormtroopers", and if he doesn't do anything about it they say it's all his fault arghhh!!

I dunno I personally think it's the fault of the people doing it but I'm weird like that.

It is weird to assign blame to where it belongs, and not to where you want the narrative to go, these days. Despite all that pressure, I just tell libtards to go F themselves every chance I get.

[Patriam1066]

Man, look at all this destruction going on under Trump's watch.

Even if it was his fault, it won’t be perceived that way in the suburbs. Dueling gangs of protestors trying to intimidate people into acquiescence is not a good look. It will boost Trump in the Midwest and south. Every poll I’ve seen has all of the states in the Midwest as tossups except Michigan (going Biden from what I’ve read).

[Trexller]

Man, look at all this destruction going on under Trump's watch.

If trump met that force with the actual force that they deserve, you'd bitch about that too

[Woke Locc]

You can tell he really gets a fair shake by the media too cause if he tries to do anything about it they say he's hitler sending in "stormtroopers", and if he doesn't do anything about it they say it's all his fault arghhh!!

I dunno I personally think it's the fault of the people doing it but I'm weird like that.

Ah the neutral party that mysteriously always sides with Trump

Rerun!!!!!!

[Arteker]

You can tell he really gets a fair shake by the media too cause if he tries to do anything about it they say he's hitler sending in "stormtroopers", and if he doesn't do anything about it they say it's all his fault arghhh!!

I dunno I personally think it's the fault of the people doing it but I'm weird like that.

The hillarious part is the media never said that kind of stuff before he went politics.

But when black killings happened during obama it was all gud my friend.
or if trump had authorized the ammount of double tap drone strikes wich lead to the death of more than 2000 non combatants:D

[douglas1999]

Ah the neutral party that mysteriously always sides with Trump

Rerun!!!!!!

Huh? I don't "side" with anyone. The whole point of trying to remain neutral isn't to never take positions on things, it's to not care if it's a left or right wing position; IE, not being a big partisan tribal doofus. The way left wing media is spinning this stuff, currently, right now, is really gross and the grossest part is that they fancy themselves as the good guy team or something. How do you think the innocent person who owns the property being burned to ashes for no damn reason feels when cnn runs a headline like that?

Perhaps I just have no idea what you're talking about, that's always possible too heh.

[Domo]

If Twump wins, the cult memes going to keep going on.
If Trump lose, his meltdown will be epic.

Win/win situation.

[Trexller]

If Twump wins, the cult memes going to keep going on.
If Trump lose, his meltdown will be epic.

Win/win situation.

If trump wins, hold on to your seat.

No president really pushes their agenda until 2nd term, when they don't have to worry about re-election.

[Tethler]

If trump wins, hold on to your seat.

No president really pushes their agenda until 2nd term, when they don't have to worry about re-election.

Are you saying that he's been holding himself back until now? Hahaha.

[Trexller]

Are you saying that he's been holding himself back until now? Hahaha.

Yup. Well, holding back until jan 20. will declare himself emperor of the universe or some such.

[Tethler]

Yup. Well, holding back until jan 20. will declare himself emperor of the universe or some such.

Now THAT wouldn't surpise me. His rampant narcissism and all...

[Jimjam]

https://i.imgur.com/UU0Bzr4.jpg
Looks to me that someone had enough of the company line, so while they provide lip service to the line they fill the screen with evidence that it the line is a deceit.

[BarnabusCollins]

That's a fine tower. Be shame if someone.. knocked it down.

[Woke Locc]

Huh? I don't "side" with anyone. The whole point of trying to remain neutral isn't to never take positions on things, it's to not care if it's a left or right wing position; IE, not being a big partisan tribal doofus. The way left wing media is spinning this stuff, currently, right now, is really gross and the grossest part is that they fancy themselves as the good guy team or something. How do you think the innocent person who owns the property being burned to ashes for no damn reason feels when cnn runs a headline like that?

Perhaps I just have no idea what you're talking about, that's always possible too heh.

I'm worried you're listening to the bad YouTube Man's. :p

Who's your favorite?

[zodium]

Huh? I don't "side" with anyone. The whole point of trying to remain neutral isn't to never take positions on things, it's to not care if it's a left or right wing position; IE, not being a big partisan tribal doofus. The way left wing media is spinning this stuff, currently, right now, is really gross and the grossest part is that they fancy themselves as the good guy team or something. How do you think the innocent person who owns the property being burned to ashes for no damn reason feels when cnn runs a headline like that?

lol

[douglas1999]

lol

comrade zodium, im sorry for your broken brain. please seek christ.

[Ripqozko]

God bless trump 2020

[douglas1999]

I'm worried you're listening to the bad YouTube Man's. :p

Who's your favorite?

I like bret and heather weinstein and coleman hughes and john mcwhorter,

I really hate sam seder as well as dave rubin, I think they are both slimebags. I sorta liked rubin at first but he started grifting pretty hard and his standup comedy is *so* insanely unfunny, I just can't support him on that ground alone

[Woke Locc]

I like bret and heather weinstein and coleman hughes and john mcwhorter,

I really hate sam seder as well as dave rubin, I think they are both slimebags. I sorta liked rubin at first but he started grifting pretty hard and his standup comedy is *so* insanely unfunny, I just can't support him on that ground alone

Wrong.

All YouTube Man's are bad.

Hope this helps

[magnetaress]

Peace out my xudes. Starkind travels onward without looking back.

Much love, health, and prosperity on your unique and special journeys.

[douglas1999]

Wrong.

All YouTube Man's are bad.

Hope this helps

Ah yeah that's true I forgot, they haven't cleared the rigorous hurdles of getting an internship at msnbc or fox or something.

C-span, the boring grandpa news, is like the only even marginally attempting to be unbiased outlet left

[Rader]

Ah yeah that's true I forgot, they haven't cleared the rigorous hurdles of getting an internship at msnbc or fox or something.

C-span, the boring grandpa news, is like the only even marginally attempting to be unbiased outlet left

Nothing is unbiased any more, every thing has an agenda

[Trexller]

has anything in the history of existence, ever acted without bias?

[douglas1999]

Nothing is unbiased any more, every thing has an agenda

Yeah I know, but all biases are not created equal. You can at least strive to be as unbiased as you are capable of being, or you can turn that shit up to 11 and be biased as fuck while bamboozling people and making them think you're all about dat journalism. There is definitely a spectrum to it.

[Gwaihir]

Peace out my xudes. Starkind travels onward without looking back.

Much love, health, and prosperity on your unique and special journeys.

Fare thee well, Magnetar

[zodium]

Yeah I know, but all biases are not created equal. You can at least strive to be as unbiased as you are capable of being, or you can turn that shit up to 11 and be biased as fuck while bamboozling people and making them think you're all about dat journalism. There is definitely a spectrum to it.

Liberals don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

[Swish]

Liberals don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

wut?

[zodium]

its a throwaway commentary on centrism i adapted from the award winning video game disco elysium to douglas1999's post, swish

[Patriam1066]

Liberals don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

Beliefs should not matter in governance. Pragmatism > dogmatism

hope this helps

NL

[Jimjam]

Beliefs should not matter in governance. Pragmatism > dogmatism

hope this helps

NL

Thats just, like, your belief, man!

[douglas1999]

Liberals don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

I really don't know what any of that means

[Patriam1066]

Thats just, like, your belief, man!

Go watch the RNC speaker discussing abortion. It’s quite scary what happens when people bring their deeply held beliefs into politics

Theocracy is bad. see: Iran

I do like your comment though!

[Woke Locc]

Beliefs should not matter in governance. Pragmatism > dogmatism

hope this helps

NL

https://youtu.be/6BejFCPJc18

[Lune]

Why would any of you be conservative? I know none of you have money. There's no point otherwise.

[JurisDictum]

Why would any of you be conservative? I know none of you have money. There's no point otherwise.

i used it to tsundere attract men. first it got me a rich dickless then muscly. lots of bonus tension -j

[Tiax]

Why would any of you be conservative? I know none of you have money. There's no point otherwise.

Stupidity and racism.

[Tiax]

It is weird to assign blame to where it belongs, and not to where you want the narrative to go, these days. Despite all that pressure, I just tell libtards to go F themselves every chance I get.

Hey chungus, go fuckyourself. The lengths you will go to absolve yourself from any responsibility for voting for that orange faecal leakage you call a president are quite impressive.

[douglas1999]

I'm not conservative. I have a few really controversial stances like: human life is important. You shouldn't kill people or hurt people even if they are your political enemies, which is what *actual* fascists do. Here's a very simple cartoon to help you understand our current situation:

https://i.imgur.com/SimmSU5.jpg

[douglas1999]

Hey chungus, go fuckyourself. The lengths you will go to absolve yourself from any responsibility for voting for that orange faecal leakage you call a president are quite impressive.

Excellent tantrum, excellent argumentation as always. You wouldn't want to think for yourself or anything, just spew some shit that somebody else told you to think.

[Patriam1066]

Why would any of you be conservative? I know none of you have money. There's no point otherwise.

Meh, I do. But trump is Obese, pass

[Patriam1066]

I'm not conservative. I have a few really controversial stances like: human life is important. You shouldn't kill people or hurt people even if they are your political enemies, which is what *actual* fascists do. Here's a very simple cartoon to help you understand our current situation:

https://i.imgur.com/SimmSU5.jpg

That’s a great meme. Remember when a 17 year old on the other “team” (yours) shot a man dead at point blank range? You should, it happened less than a week ago

[douglas1999]

That’s a great meme. Remember when a 17 year old on the other “team” (yours) shot a man dead at point blank range? You should, it happened less than a week ago

Haha, he didn't though. He was running away from people who were trying to beat and/or harm him. He did not fire first. He probably should have just stayed out of it entirely, but he literally went there to try to help defend innocent business owners while also providing whatever rudimentary medical aid he could even to people he disagrees with. I know he's white, so he's automatically bad, but cmon man think a little harder.

I was told by my master that rifle white man is bad! He is therefor bad! Thought process over!

[douglas1999]

At what point would *you* defend yourself with a gun, if forced to do so? What exactly does somebody have to do before you'd use lethal force? Legally, you are supposed to retreat in that situation, which he attempted to do. After being knocked to the ground and having another idiot point a gun at him, he fired his gun. This is corroborated by both right and left wing outlets. Even the fuckin new york times said it was self defense.

[douglas1999]

It's so insanely telling that people who have never had to call the cops always shit on them, and people who have to call the cops on a semi-daily basis want more cops. Jeez I can't possibly figure out what's going on here. I saw *three videos* of cops shooting people. I did not see the other 900 million-billion videos of cops just being polite and normal and keeping communities safe. Those videos don't tend to trend. The super bad outrage ones do though so let's go burn down target guys!!!

[solleks]

Actors playing a part. Not worthy of tr tr triple post

[douglas1999]

Yeah I coulda rolled that all into one. I kept getting madder and madder

[Woke Locc]

Yeah I coulda rolled that all into one. I kept getting madder and madder

Law and order has no space for vigilantes.

He'll go to Hell.

[hobart]

At what point would *you* defend yourself with a gun, if forced to do so? What exactly does somebody have to do before you'd use lethal force?

At the point it happened at my house. Because I'm either home or on my way to and from the range, or I don't have a gun.

If you think the protests are peaceful you don't need a gun. If you think its a riot you shouldn't be there in the first place and should stay clear and let law enforcement handle it (or not handle it) as their policies dictate. Anything else shows your intent.

They need to put a needle in the little magaturd Tim McVeigh style. He's deplorable. Irredeemable if you will.

[zodium]

I really don't know what any of that means

It's so insanely telling that people who have never had to call the cops always shit on them, and people who have to call the cops on a semi-daily basis want more cops. Jeez I can't possibly figure out what's going on here. I saw *three videos* of cops shooting people. I did not see the other 900 million-billion videos of cops just being polite and normal and keeping communities safe. Those videos don't tend to trend. The super bad outrage ones do though so let's go burn down target guys!!!

https://i.imgur.com/zW3v7mi.jpg

Beliefs should not matter in governance. Pragmatism > dogmatism

hope this helps

NL

remember how Patriam spent years as a Christian until I made like five posts pointing out he clearly worships Mammon? lol

[BarnabusCollins]

Biden might as well drop out Trump is gonna smoke him.

[Jimjam]

Looks to me Kyle was a naive kid that imagined himself as some kind of community service / UN peacekeeper, who took a rifle with him as visible deterrent so he could tidy up his local city.

Looks like he discovered that MAD is just escalation that triggers flashpoints.

Sadly this is the start, not the end, of such instances and there will sadly be losses from both people trying to protect their community and from those who are rightfully angry at establishment brutality.

The common folk are now divided and fighting amongst themselves and not directing their ire towards their greatest enemies.

[Patriam1066]

He shot the first dude before they chased him (when he shot two more people). A 17 year old driving to a protest with a gun because he thinks he’s Batman and it’s his job to fight crime. This is George Zimmerman all over again. Give him the electric chair

[zodium]

Looks to me Kyle was a naive kid that imagined himself as some kind of community service / UN peacekeeper, who took a rifle with him as visible deterrent so he could tidy up his local city.

Looks like he discovered that MAD is just escalation that triggers flashpoints.

Sadly this is the start, not the end, of such instances and there will sadly be losses from both people trying to protect their community and from those who are rightfully angry at establishment brutality.

The common folk are now divided and fighting amongst themselves and not directing their ire towards their greatest enemies.

the weimar trajectory, I post, solemnly, for the eleventeenth time

[Raev]

If you want to know who really controls the US government, you simply have to look at all of the positions supported by both candidates, which include printing massive amounts of money and giving it to the wealthy ("stimulus"), restricting the freedoms of the common folk ("lockdowns are necessary due to scary viruses"), construction of a new hybrid slave race/culture aka the Kalergi Plan ("multiculturalism", "Critical race theory"), massive surveillance ("5G", "Siri"), and of course support for Israel ("don't worry about a few human rights violations here and there, Israel are our key allies!"). Strangely, these are the same policies pursued by all governments world wide, almost as if they were executing a coordinated plan.

The Jakob Blakes and Kyle Rittenhouses of the world are totally irrelevant, a theater to distract the common folk from the real problems and convince them to give up their civil liberties. Of course, the common folk are the common folk precisely because they are incapable of understanding who their real enemies are under this barrage of propaganda. And so the world lurches onward . . .

[hobart]

If you want to know who really controls the US government, you simply have to look at all of the positions supported by both candidates, which include printing massive amounts of money and giving it to the wealthy ("stimulus"), restricting the freedoms of the common folk ("lockdowns are necessary due to scary viruses"), construction of a new hybrid slave race/culture aka the Kalergi Plan ("multiculturalism", "Critical race theory"), massive surveillance ("5G", "Siri"), and of course support for Israel ("don't worry about a few human rights violations here and there, Israel are our key allies!"). Strangely, these are the same policies pursued by all governments world wide, almost as if they were executing a coordinated plan.

The Jakob Blakes and Kyle Rittenhouses of the world are totally irrelevant, a theater to distract the common folk from the real problems and convince them to give up their civil liberties. Of course, the common folk are the common folk precisely because they are incapable of understanding who their real enemies are under this barrage of propaganda. And so the world lurches onward . . .

Good thing you have it all figured out non-commoner. Q will get back to you shortly. In the meantime, do your own research.

I do agree that corporate welfare/facism and our pro-Israel policy are gross. But for fuck's sake, wear a mask Trumptard.

[douglas1999]

More cunning insights from paranoid idiots. God damn israel!!! Arghh! I am super concerned about human rights violations by the least-human-rights violating country in the middle east!

I'm super concerned about black lives, by focusing on the .05% of times black lives are lost (by the cops) and have no regard whatsoever for the specific details of those police encounters! Argh! Here are some cool buzzwords too: fascism, racial justice, institutional oppressions and structural racisms etc..

Really getting great work done and making positive changes with this stuff.

[zodium]

If you want to know who really controls the US government, you simply have to look at all of the positions supported by both candidates, which include printing massive amounts of money and giving it to the wealthy ("stimulus"), restricting the freedoms of the common folk ("lockdowns are necessary due to scary viruses"), construction of a new hybrid slave race/culture aka the Kalergi Plan ("multiculturalism", "Critical race theory"), massive surveillance ("5G", "Siri"), and of course support for Israel ("don't worry about a few human rights violations here and there, Israel are our key allies!"). Strangely, these are the same policies pursued by all governments world wide, almost as if they were executing a coordinated plan.

The Jakob Blakes and Kyle Rittenhouses of the world are totally irrelevant, a theater to distract the common folk from the real problems and convince them to give up their civil liberties. Of course, the common folk are the common folk precisely because they are incapable of understanding who their real enemies are under this barrage of propaganda. And so the world lurches onward . . .

there's no need to be so mysterious about it. the plan is called "imperialism (https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/)" and it's been on display at your local library for over a century.

Imperialism emerged as the development and direct continuation of the fundamental characteristics of capitalism in general. But capitalism only became capitalist imperialism at a definite and very high stage of its development, when certain of its fundamental characteristics began to change into their opposites, when the features of the epoch of transition from capitalism to a higher social and economic system had taken shape and revealed themselves in all spheres. Economically, the main thing in this process is the displacement of capitalist free competition by capitalist monopoly. Free competition is the basic feature of capitalism, and of commodity production generally; monopoly is the exact opposite of free competition, but we have seen the latter being transformed into monopoly before our eyes, creating large-scale industry and forcing out small industry, replacing large-scale by still larger-scale industry, and carrying concentration of production and capital to the point where out of it has grown and is growing monopoly: cartels, syndicates and trusts, and merging with them, the capital of a dozen or so banks, which manipulate thousands of millions. At the same time the monopolies, which have grown out of free competition, do not eliminate the latter, but exist above it and alongside it, and thereby give rise to a number of very acute, intense antagonisms, frictions and conflicts. Monopoly is the transition from capitalism to a higher system.

[Woke Locc]

More cunning insights from paranoid idiots. God damn israel!!! Arghh! I am super concerned about human rights violations by the least-human-rights violating country in the middle east!

I'm super concerned about black lives, by focusing on the .05% of times black lives are lost (by the cops) and have no regard whatsoever for the specific details of those police encounters! Argh! Here are some cool buzzwords too: fascism, racial justice, institutional oppressions and structural racisms etc..

Really getting great work done and making positive changes with this stuff.

Would you mark state-on-civilian violence any different than civ v civ?

[booter]

Don't forget Kyle sucker punches a girl (which I'm sure a lot of posters here in Off Topic are actually big fans of):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgJL1ZH6lXg&feature=emb_title

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch-17-year-old-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-caught-assaulting-girl-before-getting-a-beatdown/

[solleks]

Troll level 200

[Gwaihir]

imagine still watching the "show".

[douglas1999]

Don't forget Kyle sucker punches a girl (which I'm sure a lot of posters here in Off Topic are actually big fans of):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgJL1ZH6lXg&feature=emb_title

https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch-17-year-old-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-caught-assaulting-girl-before-getting-a-beatdown/

Oh I guess he deserves it then, and there's no possible way he can redeem himself, by say providing medical aid to people who he knows already hate him. I'm sure your track record is spotless. Get back to me when you give a shit about biological males beating the shit out of women in mma or track or literally anything else. Nothing political going on here at all!

[douglas1999]

Would you mark state-on-civilian violence any different than civ v civ?

I consider civ on civ worse, because it's not your job to inflict violence when forced to, you *choose* to do it. You make the choice to do it. The state monopoly on violence is what allowed this dumb country to exist that you're currently posting in. Societies where there are no clear cut rules about who gets to kill or harm other people exist for a blink of an eye, because self interest overrides everything else from an evolutionary standpoint.

Being more outraged when a cop fucks up and performs a bad shoot, which *almost never happens*, is completely incoherent. If your neighbor decides to rob you, you call the cops. Or ya know, rambo out like a tough guy as if you aren't also a human, just like cops are, just like everyone else is.

[douglas1999]

Guys I finally secured funding for my new movement "killing extremely cute baby kittens is bad". If we show up to your house and smash it and loot it and set it on fire, please do not have any kind of problem with that, lest you think that killing extremely cute baby kittens is GOOD.

Binary binary, good guys bad guys, beep boop idiot retard detected

[Patriam1066]

Oh I guess he deserves it then, and there's no possible way he can redeem himself, by say providing medical aid to people who he knows already hate him. I'm sure your track record is spotless. Get back to me when you give a shit about biological males beating the shit out of women in mma or track or literally anything else. Nothing political going on here at all!

It should be a cautionary tale. At 17, I was trying to fuck cheerleaders. Trying is being charitable to you incels, I was banging blondes that y’all could never get (hahahahaha!). This dude is trying to “pwn the libs” with a rifle. That’s sad. We’re radicalizing kids somehow. It’s unnatural and akin to what happens in the Islamic world and Africa and other degenerate retrograde shit piles

It’s time for all of us to look in a mirror, reject hatred (of ourselves and one another - communists, atheists, foreigners are appropriate objects of derision and victims of conquest), and seek Christ

[solleks]

Mirrors are satanic

[Woke Locc]

I consider civ on civ worse, because it's not your job to inflict violence when forced to, you *choose* to do it. You make the choice to do it. The state monopoly on violence is what allowed this dumb country to exist that you're currently posting in. Societies where there are no clear cut rules about who gets to kill or harm other people exist for a blink of an eye, because self interest overrides everything else from an evolutionary standpoint.

Being more outraged when a cop fucks up and performs a bad shoot, which *almost never happens*, is completely incoherent. If your neighbor decides to rob you, you call the cops. Or ya know, rambo out like a tough guy as if you aren't also a human, just like cops are, just like everyone else is.

Can the civilians withdraw consent to the monopoly if the state uses it unjustly?

[Patriam1066]

Can the civilians withdraw consent to the monopoly if the state uses it unjustly?

No

[Woke Locc]

No

How about: yes?

[douglas1999]

Can the civilians withdraw consent to the monopoly if the state uses it unjustly?

Define unjustly. Police should absolutely be held accountable, which they often aren't, and police shootings should be investigated by a 3rd party rather than an internal "investigation" by the department in question. I totally support those things. So is the system perfect? No. Should we do away with it completely? Obviously no.

Here are some of the proposals put forward by blm:

Replace cops with social workers. Good luck dealing with domestic violence or an armed robbery or hostage situation.

Replace cops with uhhhh, a "citizen force" (AKA cops). Brilliant stuff.

Advocating for utopian ideals is pointless because everyone has a different idea of what constitutes a utopia. And the only way to achieve any particular version of utopia is to kill everyone who doesn't go along with it. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good and all that. We've had it pretty god damn good historically speaking since the civil rights movement made it's great successes, but leave it to us to fuck it all up again.

[Woke Locc]

Define unjustly. Police should absolutely be held accountable, which they often aren't, and police shootings should be investigated by a 3rd party rather than an internal "investigation" by the department in question. I totally support those things. So is the system perfect? No. Should we do away with it completely? Obviously no.

Here are some of the proposals put forward by blm:

Replace cops with social workers. Good luck dealing with domestic violence or an armed robbery or hostage situation.

Replace cops with uhhhh, a "citizen force" (AKA cops). Brilliant stuff.

Advocating for utopian ideals is pointless because everyone has a different idea of what constitutes a utopia. And the only way to achieve any particular version of utopia is to kill everyone who doesn't go along with it. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good and all that. We've had it pretty god damn good historically speaking since the civil rights movement made it's great successes, but leave it to us to fuck it all up again.

You misunderstand, I'm asking theoretically, not whether this particular rebellion qualifies.

scurries off to PM a pretty girl

[gherron]

It should be a cautionary tale. At 17, I was trying to fuck cheerleaders. Trying is being charitable to you incels, I was banging blondes that y’all could never get (hahahahaha!). This dude is trying to “pwn the libs” with a rifle. That’s sad. We’re radicalizing kids somehow. It’s unnatural and akin to what happens in the Islamic world and Africa and other degenerate retrograde shit piles

It’s time for all of us to look in a mirror, reject hatred (of ourselves and one another - communists, atheists, foreigners are appropriate objects of derision and victims of conquest), and seek Christ

He probably did believe he was shooting the communist, atheist, Muslim, tranny, pedos though.

I’m sure many of you here will agree that if you do the crime, you should get the time.

[charmcitysking]

Sleepy Joe came out of his basement last night to deliver an eloquent treatise on the current state of affairs in America:

"COVID has taken this year- just since the outbreak- has taken more than 100 year- look, here's the- the lives, it's just, it's just, I mean, think about it- more lives this year than any other year."

Well said, Joe. A true wordsmith.

[BarnabusCollins]

It's gonna be Trump in a landslide people are sick of this Marxist bullshit.

[BarnabusCollins]

10 people who participated in this poll 'get it' (There was no Flight 77)

[zodium]

It's gonna be Trump in a landslide people are sick of this Marxist bullshit.

https://i.imgur.com/0DrYscg.jpg

[galach]

We have received multiple PM's & forum petitions about this thread. Closing it since we can't have nice things.