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Cone
05-12-2011, 12:37 PM
is the final step in the "greenmist" seiries of quests in the game, reportedly the quest mobs dont pop

Pyrocat
05-12-2011, 12:54 PM
it's not currently, it might be in velious

Extunarian
05-12-2011, 12:54 PM
I can't find the reference now, but I could swear I read here that Greenmist was implemented well after Kunark launch...possibly in Velious. But I can't seem to be able ot find that post.

Asher
05-12-2011, 01:03 PM
I don't recall bane weapons being around in Kunark. Velious or Luclin iirc.

redghosthunter
05-12-2011, 01:05 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=68

Era: Kunark

Asher
05-12-2011, 01:19 PM
First mention of this weaponon allak:

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20030122002301/everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7029&start=75

Nov 15th 2001 (One month before Luclin)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everquest

While this is definitely not proof of when the item was originally implemented it at least shows that it was available before Luclin. I know the Monk version was broken for a long time and was fixed just before Luclin.

Asher

baalzy
05-12-2011, 01:49 PM
Good find Asher... I'm still extremely confused by this weapon though.

AFAIR there weren't any shissar to fight until Luclin....

falkun
05-12-2011, 01:55 PM
Good find Asher... I'm still extremely confused by this weapon though.

AFAIR there weren't any shissar to fight until Luclin....

It wasn't about actually fighting shissar in game though. Heck, I'm not even sure the shissar in Luclin are affected by the bane damage (Not saying they don't, just that I don't know). The bane damage was added because of the LORE between the iksar and the shissar.

See: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=154452&highlight=shissar#post154452

Since the greenmist is an iksar weapon, it would make sense they make a weapon to counter their biggest former masters, the shissar.

Extunarian
05-12-2011, 02:07 PM
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=68

Era: Kunark

Seriously, stop posting stuff from the current allakhazam website thinking that it proves anything about what was in game in April, 2000.

Extunarian
05-12-2011, 02:10 PM
Good find Asher... I'm still extremely confused by this weapon though.

AFAIR there weren't any shissar to fight until Luclin....

Check out this post from Asher's link:

Posted @ Fri, Nov 16th 12:16 AM 2001 Score: Good[3.67]
The running theory (I say theory because I'm not sure if this is confirmed, but according to the SK boards this is truth) is that Bane DMG adds to the base damage of the weapon.

Cleric's summoned hammers have Bane DMG vs. Undead and it seems to be working along those lines. So essentially, Greenmist would be 24/22 against Shissar (when Luclin comes out, at least).

Dr4z3r
05-12-2011, 02:37 PM
I don't recall bane weapons being around in Kunark. Velious or Luclin iirc.

Bane weapons were definitely a Luclin thing, but might have come early as a sort of 'preview' of Luclin.

GETINMYVAN
05-12-2011, 05:27 PM
OR the Bane was added to the weapon AFTER Luclin came out like it did with so many other items.

Cone
05-12-2011, 05:54 PM
so we have established it was a "KUNARK" era weapon, but the only post appeared on it 1 month before luclin, sugesting that a) it was implemented before luclin to hint at lore
b)that the quest was not"found" untill 1 month before velious*or at least reported*
c)possible implementation at Chardok revamp,?

Wildas
05-12-2011, 06:01 PM
It was broken during kunark and most of velious. Devs finally responded to bitching and reimplemented it october/nov 2001, just after chardok revamp.

Bane was on the weapon since it came out.

100% sure on all this info.

Cone
05-12-2011, 06:18 PM
so in like, 4months>?

Grizzled
05-12-2011, 06:27 PM
Wildas pls post links to refrences. If its enacted during kunark, we need to verify a date. And this time it wouldnt be broken:D

Wildas
05-12-2011, 06:27 PM
no, greenmist wasn't fixed on live til a year and a half after kunark came out.

Wildas
05-12-2011, 06:38 PM
http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums//showthread.php?t=5937

Grizzled
05-12-2011, 06:44 PM
the beauty is find a date, and it will be put in. And it wont be all fubar like sony did

Wildas
05-12-2011, 06:46 PM
It was either not in or just broken during kunark. There's stuff in dalnir and a few other zones that kind of hint to being part of the original greenmist quest, such as the crusader coffin quest and similar things.

There's even a unique graphic that was never used for any weapons with the sebilisan empire star on it, which was likely the intended graphic for the weapon. However when it was finally fully added a year and a half later, I'm sure whoever was responsible for fixing the quest kind of just hobbled together some notes from the original dev and didn't know the lore too well.

Cone
05-12-2011, 07:01 PM
well this is an interesting grey area. in one part, the quest was in sense begging of kunark*apprently* but was just bugged, on the other part, it was bugged, so wasnt really available till chardok revamp?

Wildas
05-12-2011, 07:48 PM
yah. also stats on it aren't in line with a kunark era weapon.

Dumesh Uhl'Belk
05-12-2011, 08:02 PM
yah. also stats on it aren't in line with a kunark era weapon.

It's not that far out of line. Ebon Mace is one more damage for 2 more delay and no proc, and it drops in Seb off a level 53? mob, with no quest and no faction requirements.

It's also worse than the SK epic in nearly every way, and that's a Kunark era weapon.

Don't get me wrong, I want one, and will quest it if able, but that's just cause I want to say I've done it.

baalzy
05-12-2011, 08:04 PM
It can also be solo'd except for Drusilla. Unlike the epic which requires much more difficult targets.

Dumesh Uhl'Belk
05-12-2011, 08:13 PM
It can also be solo'd except for Drusilla. Unlike the epic which requires much more difficult targets.
Sure, not saying it should be as good as the epic, just showing and example of a Kunark era weapon that is a little worse than greenmist and a Kunark era weapon that is better than the greenmist... thus showing it is not out of line for a Kunark era weapon.