Pet Experience

[FatherSioux]

I've read the pet exp section in the guides but this question isn't answered there.

Say I am on my enchanter and I am soloing a mob, this mob has 100 hp. My pet has done 51 damage and I have done 48. So the mob is alive with a single hp left. If I kill this mob with a nuke that does 20 damage. Do I get full exp? Or is it only factored based on actual damage that the mob took.

[Kavious]

You would get full xp. Its based on damage done

[Baler]

@FathSioux can you tell me which section the wiki you explored this?
I'm love to add accurate information so others don't also ask.'
and I do not mean that in a negative way.

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your example,. mob has 100 hp
Pet does 51 dmg
You do 48 damage

The pet has done 51% of damge, you've done 48% of damage.
The Pet has done 50% or more and thus steals 50% of the exp.
In this case, regardless of your finishing damage, the pet 50%+ damage already happened.

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You could release the pet, finish the mob and recharm the pet for full exp.

[cd288]

You would get full xp. Its based on damage done

I believe this is incorrect. It’s based on who did what damage to the total mob’s HP pool. The mob has 1 hp remaining so if he nukes it, while the chat text might say he did 20 damage from the spell, in reality he only did 1 damage (the mob’s remaining health).

[Kavious]

Is pet damage calculated differently from player damage? A low lvl player can do 99% damage to like a lvl 6 mob and if a high level played lands a 800 dmg nuke on it at the very end he will KS the kill. Calculation is based on the damage and not the mobs health pool

I could be wrong but I was pretty sure thats how it worked with pet damage as well

[FatherSioux]

@FathSioux can you tell me which section the wiki you explored this?
I'm love to add accurate information so others don't also ask.'
and I do not mean that in a negative way.

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your example,. mob has 100 hp
Pet does 51 dmg
You do 48 damage

The pet has done 51% of damge, you've done 48% of damage.
The Pet has done 50% or more and thus steals 50% of the exp.
In this case, regardless of your finishing damage, the pet 50%+ damage already happened.

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You could release the pet, finish the mob and recharm the pet for full exp.

The pet guide as well as the experience section that you can find in the game mechanics section.

[Bondrake]

You would get full xp. Its based on damage done

No you would not get full XP. Like stated, it is based on the mobs total HP pool and not the over cap damage dealt.

[Ananka]

If a level 1 character did 99 per cent damage to a level 1 mob then I came around with a high level mage pet and my mage pet attacked the mob doing 51 damage would it steal the kill?

Praise Amun!

[Zipity]

If a level 1 character did 99 per cent damage to a level 1 mob then I came around with a high level mage pet and my mage pet attacked the mob doing 51 damage would it steal the kill?

Praise Amun!

Yes

[Zipity]

No you would not get full XP. Like stated, it is based on the mobs total HP pool and not the over cap damage dealt.

Wrong

[Videri]

Overkill counts.

It's easy to test. Beat a low-level mob to near death, then have a level 50 drop a big nuke on it. They will KS every time.

[Nagoya]

so much disinformation in this thread.
Baler, how can you so confidentely say stuff sometimes that are blatently false and you have obviously not tested? Is it a personnality issue? It's hard to take you seriously on other threads when you say stuff like this without an ounce of doubt even though you apparently have no idea what you're talking about.

so many times fighting in a noob area some dumb monk will round kick your skeleton to "help you finish it faster", deal 100 dmg and obviously kill steal your mob and your xp.

it is 50%+ of total damage done, no matter the number of HPs the mobs had to start with. This would just be dumb anyway because mobs regenerate during the fight, so taking into account the whole damage done i believe is easier from a programing PoV as well. Don't quote me on that last part i don't know hehe. But anyway, for XP purposes this is how it works.

[Baler]

This thread is from august 2020 btw. What I stated about pet exp isn't far off. And like any normal human we learn more as we get older or gain experience.
Should I hold it against you for posts you made in 2013? I think not.

For anyone out of the loop Nagoya doesn't like me because we have different political views and they can't maintain separation in topics. So they target me any chance they get and attacks on my character are proof of this.

They also didn't even read my post because...
My post was explicitly about pet exp and how the player has to do 51% damage soloing with a pet. My post was not about overkill and I specifically remember editing out information regarding overkill because I felt it wasn't accurate enough to post with confidence.

[Videri]

Robe man bad

[Gustoo]

Any chance we can revert the non classic mechanic? Pet classes are already totally dominant on the server for ease of PVE destruction, but having to murder my pet or manage its damage dealt is really unnatural and non classic and makes me sad for Jibartik and his friends from other realms.

[Solemnus]

This thread is from august 2020 btw
Should I hold it against you for posts you made in 2013? I think not.
False equivalence, making a mistake 7 years ago is a bit different from a few months back.
Of course, it's fine to be wrong about something, but why not just admit it?


They also didn't even read my post because...
My post was explicitly about pet exp and how the player has to do 51% damage soloing with a pet. My post was not about overkill and I specifically remember editing out information regarding overkill because I felt it wasn't accurate enough to post with confidence.
Anyone can go back 1 page and look at what you actually wrote, which was specifically about overkill damage and how it doesn't matter.

In this case, regardless of your finishing damage, the pet 50%+ damage already happened.
This is a pretty clear statement. You're saying regardless of overdamage, the pet has taken 50% damage and will KS. This is wrong. Overdamage does matter and can reverse the exp steal.

[zaldaben]

in my experience you would have to dismiss (or preferably reclaim energy) the pet to get full experience. I have noticed a significant difference on both an enchanter and a necro testing this out. I have tried the last minute nuke but at higher lvls with those two classes its still not enough to overcome the dmg output unless you nuke like hell during the entire fight which just isnt mana efficient. with the necro its annoying to have to stock up all those bone chips since you cant just buy the things at a merchant too.

[Nagoya]

For anyone out of the loop Nagoya doesn't like me because we have different political views and they can't maintain separation in topics. So they target me any chance they get and attacks on my character are proof of this

ouch. since when do i even know your political stance?? :confused: and did i really talk about mine here? lol i don't remember. i'm not even american ^^;
you're delusional dude. nah in this case specifically i've got beef because of your general tone on recent topics like the shaman race debate or other where i feel you speak out of your ass but with a confidence that could destabilize people who know less about the game. it sucks. if you're not sure about something just say it man.

sorry about the RnF. this is out of place. i think the thread has been answered satisfactorily for OP. for the record i dislike the pet classes in solo because of that mechanic personnally, it's a pain in the ass (for me) to always compete with your pet for experience, and it's even more frustrating to just 'accept the 50% xp loss because you kill 2× faster anyway' - i'd rather duo/trio with these classes. but that's just me :)

thank you Solemnus for answering 'for me' - couldn't have said it better.

[Baler]

For anyone new some of these people are spending their time attacking me instead of just providing information. Keep that in mind when you progress on this forum, avoid these people.

For those people attacking me. This is the Starting Zone section of the forums. Help the new players with information. This isn't rants and flames do whatever you want. If I said something you feel is incorrect, correct it and provide information to help new players. Attacking me doesn't help anyone.

[Ananka]

Having just started a magician for the first time, I feel like I missed out on the days on Blue when you only needed to do 1 damage from the caster to get full experience.

Praise Amun!

[Sabin76]

You also missed out on the early days on Green when you couldn't even research higher level pets because it was busted on release.

[Thulian]

i made a necro and my pet does 3 times the damage i do does that mean i will level slow? Should i make a shadowknight?

[Bamsham]

i made a necro and my pet does 3 times the damage i do does that mean i will level slow? Should i make a shadowknight?

Its less of a problem for Necros since we can fear kite. Just let your dots get a head start before sending your pet in. I usually send pet when mob is at 60-70% hp left but that might be overly cautious. It depends on how high level the mob is.

[Stonewallx39]

i made a necro and my pet does 3 times the damage i do does that mean i will level slow? Should i make a shadowknight?

And just to be clear (I’m sure you know this but for anyone else) the pet “taking” 50% of the experience is only in affect when you’re solo. If you group your pet can do as much damage as you want and it will not affect everyone’s xp. You will not level slowly as a necro, it’s one of the most fun and versatile classes in the game.

Solo, you will need to race your pet for xp. Not too hard just start your dots and hold the pet back until the mob is down to where you’re comfortable you’ll outdamage. It takes some trial and error but you can play around with your timing and dots to maximize efficiency.