Post here every time you are disappointed by no Red 2.0 news

[Gustoo]

I dunno, Kim was good at casting rain on me when I was sitting down waiting for south ro AC spawn I can’t imagine eatitnerd had a secret alt where he was that bad. But I’ve been wrong before

[oathb2]

My guess is VZTZ will be a fast flop, the exp is too fast, the expansions will be rolled out way to quickly, and last but not least. EQ pvp servers require a full time staff to address exploits immediately, not later. That combined with the only installation being available in a discord that has anonymous mods with absolute power is a recipe for a poor launch.

[starkind]

Playing on green is making me consider red again really hard. It's very tempting. Especially as I still have established characters here.

[New_Guy]

I dunno, Kim was good at casting rain on me when I was sitting down waiting for south ro AC spawn I can’t imagine eatitnerd had a secret alt where he was that bad. But I’ve been wrong before

IDK dropping a rain over someone's head who is sitting is a perfectly valid tactic, if they fail to run out fast enough and take two waves that's some serious dmg. A lot of people I killed never even saw me, they were dead before they knew someone was attacking them.


That's not a sign of being bad, that's a sign of being a good killer, and Kimm killed a lot of people, some serious PvPer's too.

[Gustoo]

That’s what I’m trying to say. Pretty sure eat it nerd is Kim and I’d doubt that player would sink to the levels your describing shadowlamp at.

[New_Guy]

That’s what I’m trying to say. Pretty sure eat it nerd is Kim and I’d doubt that player would sink to the levels your describing shadowlamp at.

Nope Snortles is Kimm, Eatitnerd has been a non factor sperglord on the forums for years, Rag outed him as Shadowlamp ages ago.

I know Kimm well.

[Gustoo]

Oh, my bad. You must have a super memory for
Keeping weirdoses forum identities matched to their characters.

Do they have the same avatar or something? I dunno why I got confused.

[New_Guy]

Oh, my bad. You must have a super memory for
Keeping weirdoses forum identities matched to their characters.

Do they have the same avatar or something? I dunno why I got confused.

I legit have a photographic memory, unless I'm stupid high or drunk I can remember every fight down to the sequence of spell cast. Something about the adrenaline rush of PvP makes me remember it easier than most things.

[starkind]

I legit have a photographic memory, unless I'm stupid high or drunk I can remember every fight down to the sequence of spell cast. Something about the adrenaline rush of PvP makes me remember it easier than most things.

https://i.imgur.com/79ZPY3z.jpeg

[Gustoo]

https://i.imgur.com/79ZPY3z.jpeg

The post of the year comes through right at the end. Worth the wait.

[New_Guy]

https://i.imgur.com/79ZPY3z.jpeg

Must be a Gen-Z thing because I don't get it.

[Tradesonred]

I dont get it either, i need to get on that tik tok thing

[Gustoo]

Just imagine the guy in that photo saying the stuff that starkind quoted you saying. Starkind is like 40 he’s definitely a millennial at best.

[starkind]

I was born to the mormon zion in 1981.

I am a righteous angel of the lord.

[New_Guy]

Just imagine the guy in that photo saying the stuff that starkind quoted you saying. Starkind is like 40 he’s definitely a millennial at best.

That just makes me feel sorry for you both, really toothless humor.

[Gustoo]

I dunno man I actually believe your memory claims but that 10x oversized tactical outfit like it was designed for a real life super steroid space marine is hilarious.

Still disappointed

[New_Guy]

I dunno man I actually believe your memory claims but that 10x oversized tactical outfit like it was designed for a real life super steroid space marine is hilarious.

Still disappointed

There is no such thing as a true photographic memory it's bullshit, the only case study was done on one women that the scientist married.

But extreme memory retention is tied to dyslexia, people who suffer from dyslexia often can recall events up to 99% percentile of accuracy even decades past.

Every gift comes with a curse.

[Gustoo]

So the pic is true.

What kinda wizard are you gunna play on early red2.0?

[Disease]

I was born to the mormon zion in 1981.

I am a righteous angel of the lord.

And you still playing video games lol? 2002 checking in!

[New_Guy]

So the pic is true.

What kinda wizard are you gunna play on early red2.0?

I doubt I will play a wizard, after a while it feels cheap to PvP. Most your kills are on unsuspecting victims, and yonder makes it too easy to escape everything, plus they are shit indoors.

While all casters are at a huge disadvantage indoors, wizards are exceptionally weak in dungeons. Epic skin is too long a cast when a melee is on you and one T staff proc, rogue disc, or harmtouch when your low and you're eating floor. Enchanters and Necros can play a lot of games indoors with feign death, mem blur, and charming but they gotta watch their life and burn through peridots.

So maybe an SK, Druid, or Shaman due to their versatility. Druid has the port advantage allowing you to pick up more kills. I would have never gotten as many kills on my Shaman, as I did, if I wasn't bound in the pot room.

[Gustoo]

How about a toon specifically for the pre kunark era though.

[New_Guy]

How about a toon specifically for the pre kunark era though.

Pre Kunark both Druids and Wizards are boss, Shaman is too but me and Lithium are literally the only shamans to wrack up a high kill count, lot harder to get kills on a dot class when anyone can zone and you lose the kill.

I know pokesomesmot of flowers was also making plays but I left when he was coming up. When I quit playing I was the only Shaman to ever hit the top ten on the leaderboard.

[Tradesonred]

There is no such thing as a true photographic memory it's bullshit, the only case study was done on one women that the scientist married.

But extreme memory retention is tied to dyslexia, people who suffer from dyslexia often can recall events up to 99% percentile of accuracy even decades past.

Every gift comes with a curse.

My brother is borderline autistic, he has more than a photographic memory, i call it a cinematographic memory because its not just pictures, just reels of footage he can call up at will.

Like ill remember shit when i was 7 (almost 40 years ago) but its only pictures. I remember a few events, here and there where the "footage" is there, not pictures.

But my brother be like "Yea dont you remember dad's friend we only went to his house once, there was nunchucks on the wall, a yellow bathroom and we played with the yoda puppet for hours eating these old people candies and and..." I was like 8 and hes a year and a half younger than me.

A friend of mine a legit autistic will tell me about how they changed the model of buses in august 1983 and what the actual changes of the bus were.

[New_Guy]

My brother is borderline autistic, he has more than a photographic memory, i call it a cinematographic memory because its not just pictures, just reels of footage he can call up at will.

Like ill remember shit when i was 7 (almost 40 years ago) but its only pictures. I remember a few events, here and there where the "footage" is there, not pictures.

But my brother be like "Yea dont you remember dad's friend we only went to his house once, there was nunchucks on the wall, a yellow bathroom and we played with the yoda puppet for hours eating these old people candies and and..." I was like 8 and hes a year and a half younger than me.

A friend of mine a legit autistic will tell me about how they changed the model of buses in august 1983 and what the actual changes of the bus were.

Autism, Asperger's, and Dyslexia often come with crazy gifts, both can often scale as genius in some regards and yet have learning disabilities in other regards.

Most of what the world considers insanely super intelligent people have been on the borderline of one those spectrums. Nikola Tesla, Keeley, and others were thought to border the spectrum of mental disability. Which is where they got the idea of genius and madness having a thin line.

[Gustoo]

And yet none has been able to deliver us red 2.0

One day one of the borderline genius board members can make it happen

[Kokkusho]

.

[kwk2k7]

I have me, a brother, a cousin, my dad, 2 uncles all waiting for a new fresh red server

[New_Guy]

And yet none has been able to deliver us red 2.0

One day one of the borderline genius board members can make it happen

I don't feel like learning C++ just to program a server, I'm working on bigger things with mechanical engineering.

[Gustoo]

Ya like a week before you started posting some mad posters were telling me to start my own server if I want one so bad. I hear you.

[Larken]

Can't we all just ask the dev team what their price is? I'm sure if all of us pulled together funds we can make it happen, after all, we're not the broke teenagers we once were when starting EQ. Most of us should be able to donate considerable amounts for a passion/hobby like EQ. But seriously, money makes things happen. I'm sure Rogean needs a new something in his life and at least will be willing to come to the negotiation table..

[Gustoo]

If they posted a price I’d organize to get it paid

[New_Guy]

Can't we all just ask the dev team what their price is? I'm sure if all of us pulled together funds we can make it happen, after all, we're not the broke teenagers we once were when starting EQ. Most of us should be able to donate considerable amounts for a passion/hobby like EQ. But seriously, money makes things happen. I'm sure Rogean needs a new something in his life and at least will be willing to come to the negotiation table..

Here is the problem, legally he cannot charge for any service attributed to the server. Daybreak owns the intellectual rights to OG Everquest. They cut him a deal allowing him to use the code for this EMU in exchange for some of his code to make their classic progression servers.

But he cannot charge for any service related to this box, he can only accept donations. Why do you think he comes down on RMT so much and tries to erase any mention of it off the forums. Because even RMT makes him legally vulnerable.

So he cannot give a price to anything, you can give a bulk donation in the hopes of Red, but there is no guarantee.

[Jibartik]

The price is a few dollars a month recuring paypal donation, if each of us did that then they'd be rich and could go travel the world and never have to update the game ever aga.... waitaminuet.

[Disease]

Could probably just throw a party in Vegas with whores and drugs. I can supply the drugs and men. Someone book the room!

[Shac]

lan party vegas p99 22

[Larken]

Here is the problem, legally he cannot charge for any service attributed to the server. Daybreak owns the intellectual rights to OG Everquest. They cut him a deal allowing him to use the code for this EMU in exchange for some of his code to make their classic progression servers.

But he cannot charge for any service related to this box, he can only accept donations. Why do you think he comes down on RMT so much and tries to erase any mention of it off the forums. Because even RMT makes him legally vulnerable.

So he cannot give a price to anything, you can give a bulk donation in the hopes of Red, but there is no guarantee.

Fair enough. So let's contact Daybreak and see what their position is. Say someone would make a compelling case and present it to them and say: Hey, we're 500 players that are dying to get a fresh pvp server but P99 aren't responding to our request and we suspect it has to do with the fact that they might be violating some kind of unknown agreement. What can we do to get our server (willing to pay) and keep everyone happy?"

In the end, it's probably 1 or 2 people that need convincing and as I mentioned, it's usually just a matter of (enough) money. At least get a dialogue going?

[Skarne]

Fair enough. So let's contact Daybreak and see what their position is. Say someone would make a compelling case and present it to them and say: Hey, we're 500 players that are dying to get a fresh pvp server but P99 aren't responding to our request and we suspect it has to do with the fact that they might be violating some kind of unknown agreement. What can we do to get our server (willing to pay) and keep everyone happy?"

In the end, it's probably 1 or 2 people that need convincing and as I mentioned, it's usually just a matter of (enough) money. At least get a dialogue going?

lol good luck

[Larken]

lol good luck

Thank you.
By the way, maybe I'm not seeing it, but do we have anything to lose by opening up a dialogue?

[New_Guy]

Thank you.
By the way, maybe I'm not seeing it, but do we have anything to lose by opening up a dialogue?

They would immediately say no and point you to their trash progression servers with weird code. Mainly because companies like money.

I'm not telling you not to try, I'm just telling you the inevitable outcome based in reality and not fantasyland.

[Larken]

They would immediately say no and point you to their trash progression servers with weird code. Mainly because companies like money.

I'm not telling you not to try, I'm just telling you the inevitable outcome based in reality and not fantasyland.

You said it yourself: "companies like money".
Wasn't that exactly what I said in my suggestion? That is the way with which you solve the problem. Now, it's a different matter all together whether or not the PvP loving EQ community can actually muster up the required money to make things happen, but for sure, that is the solution to almost any issue in the world.

Look, I'm not saying we will be successful with Daybreak/Rogean/whoever is pulling the strings, just pointing out the way to approach the subject.

[New_Guy]

You said it yourself: "companies like money".
Wasn't that exactly what I said in my suggestion? That is the way with which you solve the problem. Now, it's a different matter all together whether or not the PvP loving EQ community can actually muster up the required money to make things happen, but for sure, that is the solution to almost any issue in the world.

Look, I'm not saying we will be successful with Daybreak/Rogean/whoever is pulling the strings, just pointing out the way to approach the subject.

You seem to be suffering from an insane amount of gullibility.

No there are not solutions to everything in the world that is why the world is often a shitty place.

Daybreak has their own servers they charge 15 dollars a month for, they aren't going to hand away rights to anyone.

You can't offer Rogean a price he will accept because he will be sued into oblivion by daybreak.

The only real world non fairytale solution would be to buy the rights off Daybreak or buy Daybreak, and they were just acquired for 300 million, you got 300 million?
Or decompile an Emu's code and build your own server, baring that...

You're fucked, and you can wish upon as many stars as you like but the daydream ends with a big D going in your A anyway you slice it.

[Gustoo]

That’s why I put in a combined 1hrs a day during my bathroom breaks putting in my time campaigning for red. Sometimes I even spend time on the board when I could be doing something fun.

P99 red 2.0 is our best hope.

[A Knight]

Disappointed.

Classic Only, All casters spells do Physical damage.

All melee do spell damage. Slashing Magic, Blunt fire, Piercing cold, Hand to hand disease, bow damage gets to choose. (Forgot Poison. Two handers, Poison Damage.)

/shrugs, I guess the Physical spell damage thing would be dumb. Especially if its AC based and Warriors.

[Gustoo]

In theory AC should be able to mitigate melee damage but it doesn’t do shit compared to magic poison disease cold fire resists against spells.

But spells work from range. I don’t think there is any way to make the game more balanced really just gotta deal with it. Melee doesn’t run out of mana and with stamina non functional here it’s even better for melee

[Larken]

You seem to be suffering from an insane amount of gullibility.

No there are not solutions to everything in the world that is why the world is often a shitty place.

Daybreak has their own servers they charge 15 dollars a month for, they aren't going to hand away rights to anyone.

You can't offer Rogean a price he will accept because he will be sued into oblivion by daybreak.

The only real world non fairytale solution would be to buy the rights off Daybreak or buy Daybreak, and they were just acquired for 300 million, you got 300 million?
Or decompile an Emu's code and build your own server, baring that...

You're fucked, and you can wish upon as many stars as you like but the daydream ends with a big D going in your A anyway you slice it.

Okay I see the way you view the world. Everything is an insurmountable obstacle in the big bad scary world and we're just insignificant little ants which cannot achieve anything so let's just go and hide in our little holes forever.

I just view it differently, from experience and being an optimist. After all, I don't care if Daybreak is a $3B corporation. Why? Because in the end, it's ran by normal human beings just like you and me and everything IS possible, in theory. Let me reiterate again, I'm not saying that we will succeed or that it's even likely,. Look buddy, you're probably right in the end in that it will not go anywhere. But what is there to loose in opening up a dialogue? At least getting a no after offering them something in return is just normal business procedure as any and will give us clarity rather than spending years in this thread (which is quite entertaining), praying to deaf ears.

Also, note that most of your arguments are just assumptions of what actions, unknown persons to you, will take. You just never know 100%, hence it's always worth trying. More unlikely things have happened in our world over the ages...

[Gustoo]

Let us know how your phone call with the EverQuest division of daybreak games a division of megacorp inc goes and when they’re gunna launch rallos zek 2.0 using archived server code that isn’t compatible with any of their current anti cheat software or server management software goes.

Wishing you sincere luck in this endeavor and dreaming hard.

[Notfame]

Red99DAO has potential

[New_Guy]

Okay I see the way you view the world. Everything is an insurmountable obstacle in the big bad scary world and we're just insignificant little ants which cannot achieve anything so let's just go and hide in our little holes forever.

I just view it differently, from experience and being an optimist. After all, I don't care if Daybreak is a $3B corporation. Why? Because in the end, it's ran by normal human beings just like you and me and everything IS possible, in theory. Let me reiterate again, I'm not saying that we will succeed or that it's even likely,. Look buddy, you're probably right in the end in that it will not go anywhere. But what is there to loose in opening up a dialogue? At least getting a no after offering them something in return is just normal business procedure as any and will give us clarity rather than spending years in this thread (which is quite entertaining), praying to deaf ears.

Also, note that most of your arguments are just assumptions of what actions, unknown persons to you, will take. You just never know 100%, hence it's always worth trying. More unlikely things have happened in our world over the ages...

I gave you two real world solutions, earn 300 million dollars, or start learning C++ to decompile and reverse engineer your own server.

In the real world that's how things get done, hard work and determination.

But you decided to go with wishing upon a star. Let us know when you land back on our side of the rainbow. Because convincing companies not to like money because you're a boy with a dream, ain't happening.

[Larken]

I gave you two real world solutions, earn 300 million dollars, or start learning C++ to decompile and reverse engineer your own server.

In the real world that's how things get done, hard work and determination.

But you decided to go with wishing upon a star. Let us know when you land back on our side of the rainbow. Because convincing companies not to like money because you're a boy with a dream, ain't happening.

I was the one who wrote about "the real world solution" before you did and now somehow you're trying to claim I'm wishing on a rainbow or something, so disingenuous of you, even though my previous posts is just a page back and addressed directly to you.

Since I first brought it up I mentioned that money will be the way to go, basically open up a dialogue and ask what the price is and/or if there's a solution. That's the real world I'm talking about and which you now are as well. So then we agree...? Or are you just a forum troll trying to rustle feather here for fun?

This is what I wrote 2 posts ago, addressed to you directly:

Posted by Larken
"Now, it's a different matter all together whether or not the PvP loving EQ community can actually muster up the required money to make things happen, but for sure, that is the solution to almost any issue in the world."

[New_Guy]

I was the one who wrote about "the real world solution" before you did and now somehow you're trying to claim I'm wishing on a rainbow or something, so disingenuous of you, even though my previous posts is just a page back and addressed directly to you.

Since I first brought it up I mentioned that money will be the way to go, basically open up a dialogue and ask what the price is and/or if there's a solution. That's the real world I'm talking about and which you now are as well. So then we agree...? Or are you just a forum troll trying to rustle feather here for fun?

This is what I wrote 2 posts ago, addressed to you directly:

Posted by Larken
"Now, it's a different matter all together whether or not the PvP loving EQ community can actually muster up the required money to make things happen, but for sure, that is the solution to almost any issue in the world."

Cool, so when do you think you will have the 300 mill by, Wednesday?

[Larken]

Cool, so when do you think you will have the 300 mill by, Wednesday?

You mean we, right?

[crossplay]

2022, wouldn't be here without my disappointment

[Swish]

^

[Gustoo]

Another great day, other than no red 2 announce.

[Notfame]

#59

[derpcake2]

2025 red will be alive

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today

[Tradesonred]

2025 red will be alive

lol king of the hill, see who will stop soloing last and take a screenshot of 24h pop at 1 player

[Gustoo]

Happy disappointment day

[Gustoo]

Disappointed

[Notfame]

#60

[starkind]

.

[Gustoo]

Good morning disappointed team. I see starkind has a new avatar. I guess times are charging.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/26k9Td7.gif

Need new red!

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today thanks P99 team putting in the hard hours.

[Rager and Quitter]

May the Red server remain a barren wasteland and be super boring for all the elitist players that hate new people joining the server.

[Imago]

May the Red server remain a barren wasteland and be super boring for all the elitist players that hate new people joining the server.

Sounds personal.

[Rager and Quitter]

Sounds personal.

Last night I watched a group of 4 actual new players get griefed right off the server. The players on R99 don't want any new people to join the server. If they did, they'd be helping out the new guys so that there would be more long term players, but they don't and the server will always suffer because of the shit attitudes. The only reason they want a 2.0 is for another crack at legacy items and nothing more. R99 will always be a wasteland because of how toxic the players are on that server. It's doomed to fail, so why bother putting resources toward it at all, let alone 2.0. Just facts man.

[Jimjam]

Red 2 should be vanilla only, no legacy items, accelerated xp, perma death.

That said, any Red 2 would be a relief from the disappointment of it's absence.

[Jazzy]

Just wipe this shit server already idiots

[Gustoo]

^^ too real.

Staff hear our cries.

[Notfame]

#61

[Jazzy]

^^ too real.

Staff hear our cries.

Probably going to end it all soon if they do not wipe this shitbox

[Sear]

Maybe just play on VZTZ instead of pining for P99 devs who mentally checked out of red over a decade ago to suddenly start a new server.

[Worry]

Red 2 should be vanilla only, no legacy items, accelerated xp, perma death.

That said, any Red 2 would be a relief from the disappointment of it's absence.

Agree'd with this. EQ PVP tends to quickly devolve into twink toons gatekeeping zones. Major implications like perma death would help resolve this.

and anything past Vanilla makes the world too large for the community that Red will hold (a couple hundred at max). Perfect for old world.

[Rager and Quitter]

Agree'd with this. EQ PVP tends to quickly devolve into twink toons gatekeeping zones. Major implications like perma death would help resolve this.

and anything past Vanilla makes the world too large for the community that Red will hold (a couple hundred at max). Perfect for old world.

Wouldn't permadeath actually increase the reward from griefing new players? Not only could you kill them, but they'd be so discouraged they would probably leave

[Kokkusho]

Wouldn't permadeath actually increase the reward from griefing new players? Not only could you kill them, but they'd be so discouraged they would probably leave

Perhaps, but it could also make the game more casual and lighthearted knowing you most likely won’t have a permanent character. Hard to twink out grief alts when playing solo at level 36 is an achievement.

[starkind]

Plz :o

[Rager and Quitter]

Perhaps, but it could also make the game more casual and lighthearted knowing you most likely won’t have a permanent character. Hard to twink out grief alts when playing solo at level 36 is an achievement.

Maybe something like a 2 week lockout of a character on death, or something like that, which will have the desired effect of making PvP a little bit more risky, but allowing people to feel like they are still making progress on a character

[Gustoo]

Permadeath is awesome and great but no it makes it insanely non casual where the entire game is getting high enough level to win and then killing everyone before they can compete. It’s a “grief” specific server in that way and the winner gets a hard win standing literally over the corpses of their (now level one and naked) opponents.

Vanilla rallos is the best idea IMO but I think two teams Sullon maybe the most likely as it’s viable and still let’s people play eq they way they’re used to (raiding 24/7)

[Swish]

^

[starkind]

Vanilla RZ 100% best ruleset.

Add in a few fresh droppable vanilla loots to keep it fresh and maybe a few select kunark zones customized to be classic power levels.

Maybe tofs. And crystal caverns 2.

No ntov, vp, pom, kael, skyshrine lameness tho.

[reebz]

Ya your custom tailored version of this game absolutely sounds the best! Imagine all the players it would bring in

[Gustoo]

Think we should bring it in front of shark tank Reebz?

[starkind]

Just deleting all the raid content and replacing it with old school vanilla style droppable lewts and adding item loot would.

A. Balance the game.
B. Keep it fun and fresh for years.

C. Maybe add a ketchup mechanic that takes into account avg lvls on the box. Once 90% of the box hits 60 every gets reset to lvl 1 and xp curve dramatically nerfed. It slowly rises over time again until the cycle repeats.

Let ppl put 1 item in a safety box in hhk that doesn't reset.

[Beldan4]

I have utterly no trust of the people in charge to make a red 2.0 server. The changes they made to red piticuarly with swarm, mobs losing threat, epic level limits, NToV changes and all the other garbage is what killed red hard. Any variation of the current red server transformed into a 2.0 server isn't worth playing. Unless 2.0 red is SEVERED from the crap changes that are implemented on blue at the very least...there's no chance I would play it.

[Gustoo]

None of those things had anything to do with red taking a nose dive.

Epic level limits being a bad thing? Don’t make me laugh.

It had almost 3 good years, an accomplishment by EMU standards. The fact that it’s just sitting here near dead with no announcement about its fate is an insult.

Tell us that it’s all we get forever and set in place a rules vote poll or something, or make a new server and let this be the archive. It’s not that hard.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today

[starkind]

Plz b4 2024? Pretty plz �� ����

[Notfame]

#62

[EatitNerd]

Useless thread

[starkind]

We need red 2.0 asap to train our bodies for 2023.

[Gustoo]

Ok, when is red 2?

[Tradesonred]

*Laughs in Rogean*

[EatitNerd]

Ok, when is red 2?

Red 2 launched almost 2 months ago, you’re behind because you’d prefer a server where everyone stays lvl 10 for 3 months before being lvl 20 for another 3 months.

[Gustoo]

I think your new Vztz server sounds great would play if I could.

I’m campaigning for red 2 and I’d even dedicate late night hours to supporting the server in some fashion if it made a difference but it will take some actual personal sacrifices for me to legitimately play any eq server right now. P99 or otherwise.

So ya I’m not jumping on board this years Vztz but that’s not because I’ve got anything against it.

Tho my preference is for a more classic experience, that’s not what’s holding me back.

You’re an eq pvp person. I support you. I know you’d still throw a brick through my window like those dummies telling a riot that they’re “on their side!” But that’s how it is.

I think half of blue pop would have more fun on a classic style p99 pvp server than the nasty situation on the blue servers. They deserve a chance to really enjoy eq and for them a Vztz server is gunna be too much and too short lived.

I’m disappointed there is no red2 news today.

[Notfame]

#63

[starkind]

Disappointed today.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed to day.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today also

[Imago]

Also disappointed

[hekbringer]

Yeah...im having fun after hiatus but server lacks spirit. Where is Guava?

[starkind]

Praying for a red 2.0 news update /\

[Gustoo]

Red 2.0 is the only way to beat putin

[starkind]

Praying for a red 2.0 news update /\

[starkind]

Today I'm double disappointed. Especially after surviving yesterday without news.

[Insaiyan]

+1

[adichi]

f

[Jimjam]

Logging in to Red to check the news for 2.0 and maybe kill a sonic bat or two. Feeling optimistic, will update later!

[starkind]

/\

[Gustoo]

disappointed today.

[Notfame]

#64

[Zoolander]

hello, iam here for the new server, when will it be up?

[Jimjam]

hello, iam here for the new server, when will it be up?

What is this? A PVP server for ants? 2.0 would be at least ten times larger!

[Gustoo]

hello, iam here for the new server, when will it be up?

[Gustoo]

Holy shit is there still no news about red 2.0 from P99 staff?

What the hell?????

[Bardp1999]

Reds dead baby

[Jimjam]

I allowed my 56 warrior to get killed by a fire beetle in Nagafen's Cave.

Might just let the corpse rot instead of finding a rez or looting it.

Disappointment is really kicking in today.

[starkind]

I allowed my 56 warrior to get killed by a fire beetle in Nagafen's Cave.

Might just let the corpse rot instead of finding a rez or looting it.

Disappointment is really kicking in today.

:(

Sorry pall I have 1st world problems to deal with otherwise i'd run velise up there

[Jimjam]

:(

Sorry pall I have 1st world problems to deal with otherwise i'd run velise up there

I sent a tell to all other 6 players on line and one even kindly volunteered to rez me if I could find them a port (I couldn't).

I'm gonna go get my stuff now instead of being a cry baby

[starkind]

i would say just park toon at a safer zl and grief ppl

[Jimjam]

i would say just park toon at a safer zl and grief ppl

I went afk fighting a beetle and let myself get pushed out of melee range, while it was still in range of me...

Was just me being inattentive in an otherwise safe situation.

[Gustoo]

I can install the game and come rez u

[Duvain]

Every once in a while, I log in and sit there for about 10 minutes, then log out.

[Jimjam]

I can install the game and come rez u

Save yourself and your hdd from disappointment - save yourself for 2 - or even 3 - .0

[A Knight]

Donating 5pp, to anyone who can kill the gnome mage camping my corpse in MM, on red 2.0

Disappointed.

[Gustoo]

Making some real progress in disappointment today.

[Notfame]

#65

[Danger]

disappointed af fr fr no cap

[Fame]

#66

[Duvain]

I feel like we're going to get a population bump from these covid lockdowns any day now.

[Gustoo]

^ lol

I'm sure green got some benefit. The rotting in the corner of the basement vibe that Red99 has doesn't make it too attractive to newcomers.

Imagine if staff just posted "we care about red" on the front page.

It's a good day for disappointment though.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/xvgRmV6.jpeg

[Disease]

^ lol

I'm sure green got some benefit. The rotting in the corner of the basement vibe that Red99 has doesn't make it too attractive to newcomers.

Imagine if staff just posted "we care about red" on the front page.

It's a good day for disappointment though.

They obviously care about red, it costs hundreds of dollars a month to run this operation. Which is mostly out of the pocket of Rogean.

You people want a new server but are so ungrateful.

[Gustoo]

https://i.imgur.com/xvgRmV6.jpeg



If we had 7 top players like that picture kicking the shit out of people free of charge the server would be 600+pop 24/7

Good meme though.

[Gustoo]

They obviously care about red, it costs hundreds of dollars a month to run this operation. Which is mostly out of the pocket of Rogean.

You people want a new server but are so ungrateful.

Haha good post thank you. Reminds me of the "can't stop talking about it" and maybe its true.

[Fame]

#67

[Tassador]

68…..

69!!!!!! Yahhhh fuck yah SIXTY NINE!!! All night baby yahhhhhh

[starkind]

Red 2.0 will save the lives of good ppl. Mark my words.

[Gustoo]

Starting off the week encouraged about everything else but disappointed about this.

[starkind]

My level of disappointment is minimal. Nice to see a small bump on red 1.0

I'm still disappointed tho

[layhousehours]

i think its funny that there isnt a new red HA HA

[Gustoo]

Great day today

[Fame]

#68

[layhousehours]

still think its funny that anyone logs onto this

[starkind]

Nah. It's a great place to experience some nostalgia.

[Fame]

#69
Nice.

[A Knight]

I know Diablo loot on a Mmorpg is just Wow loot. If I become a millionaire I will make an Eq classic server with either Diablo 1 or Diablo 2 gear. It would be cool to see Eq where it rains gear, even if shitty, some how work. And people dropping giant amounts of coin, with the coin sound effect.

Disappointed today, but I'll still play old Red anyway.

[Gustoo]

My findings over the 10 or so days indicate continued disappointment, but no resentment.

Looking forward to a disappointment free day sometime in 2022.

[Fame]

#70

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/PU9eSSH.gif

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today

[nilzark]

Not disappointed. Is that ok?

[Gustoo]

It's okay.

I saw your name and it reminded me of Nizzar the Duke

I always forget the name "nizzar" so thanks.

[Gustoo]

Disappointed today. I was on last night with 12 players.

[Raijiin]

disappointed as well

[Notfame]

#71

[Gustoo]

Another solid day of disappointment.

Thank you to all contributors. Keep up the good work.

[Tunabros]

we know damn well gustoo will hop on the new red server (if there is ever one) level to

like lv 33 then proceed to give up and go back to shitposting on the forums

hope this helps

[Tunabros]

we know damn well gustoo will hop on the new red server (if there is ever one) level to

like lv 33 then proceed to give up and go back to shitposting on the forums

hope this helps

[Gustoo]

Thanks for following feel free to smash the subscribe button.

It depends on the ruleset. If its an item loot ruleset I will have a main that I get to high level to get items and collect money to equip a twink. In olden days I would have done a lot of bartering to acquire good gear.

If it is non item loot I will just have one character, probably a paladin slow motion to level 60. Estimating like 8 hours a week maximum playtime so I won't be fast.

Alternate path if it is item loot and I am low play time will be I naked PVP at level 12 or so for the duration of the server.

I never shit post.

[Tunabros]

you shit post everyday

there will be no new red

do yourself a favor and join green

[Gustoo]

If I could stomach PVE server, I would probably pick up blue where I left off a billion years ago and be waiting for funny guys like you after the merge.

Every time I start grinding for some goal I can't quite bring myself to do it. I almost managed to mustard the willpower just to level up a porter and do actual free teleports for people after reading that cringe thread about dial a port and "tips"

And at this point if I was doing PVE I would probably try out the alkabor project because of it's novel features. As you might imagine I am a little disappointed in the pixel rot around here and the lack of forum community, seeing as you're one of the main people I interact with on these message boards. I'm not really ready to start participating in the non game community via discord, either.

My posts are 99% pro-pvp besides the off topic forum which is literally a forum for shit posting.

Why do you hang out in the red forum so much?

Happy to PL you on red if you're feeling lonely, theres 20 good chaps there most of the time.

[Tunabros]

"Every time I start grinding for some goal I can't quite bring myself to do it. "

you cant make this shit up

[Jibartik]

9Wq54dK0aBs

[Gustoo]

"Every time I start grinding for some goal I can't quite bring myself to do it. "

you cant make this shit up

Talking about PVE goals bud. Good out of context snippet though, that will teach me to talk to you like you’re a human.

[MrSparkle001]

Talking about PVE goals bud. Good out of context snippet though, that will teach me to talk to you like you’re a human.

That's when you need to sit back and make the goal the journey itself. Not end game, not raiding, but the journey. Start new, go untwinked, farm bone chips to sell, save and buy cheap gear off people, and enjoy the ride at your pace.

Red won't be popular again. Those days are gone. I still have my shadowknight on red but I feel the same logging on with him as you do on Green. I can't bring myself to play him anymore. Green and Blue for me now.

[Gustoo]

I hear you. When I try to play blue I end up just playing red despite it being just about flat dead.

Thats why I don't make the time to play anymore.

PVE has no guts for me, and red is megadead.

Not enough play time in a given period to really get into one of the VZ/TZ emu servers before they run their short course even though they seem like the right way to go for some pvp action, even if its not the kinda PVP I really like.

[starkind]

Last 2x page was real gud work bois!

https://i.imgur.com/S379Kxj.jpeg

[MrSparkle001]

I hear you. When I try to play blue I end up just playing red despite it being just about flat dead.

Thats why I don't make the time to play anymore.

PVE has no guts for me, and red is megadead.

Not enough play time in a given period to really get into one of the VZ/TZ emu servers before they run their short course even though they seem like the right way to go for some pvp action, even if its not the kinda PVP I really like.

I have other games for the PvP now but I don't really care about it anymore. I'm older now. Priorities and pleasures have shifted. I can load up ESO and hit up Cyrodiil or a battleground and have some fun stress-free PvP.

I'm willing to try a Red 2.0 teams server though.

[Gustoo]

I have other pvp games too, but I like the combination of features that eq pvp offers the most.

Dark souls 3 pvp was pretty fun, hanging out at anor londo / pontiff Sullivan

But it’s nothing like eq pvp. We’ll see if this team comes through one more time.

[Tassador]

"Every time I start grinding for some goal I can't quite bring myself to do it. "

you cant make this shit up

You couldn’t be more right about gustoo he thinks a new red is coming because he is disappointed. And yea he probably gets to lvl 30 and starts complaining if red 2.0 were to happen. We know it’s not and at this point most sane people don’t care anymore.

[nilzark]

Maybe we should start a "shutdown red as a mercy" thread?

[Gustoo]

There are like thirty shut down red as a mercy threads dating back to 2015.

If they announce they won’t make a new red server ever, I’ll just start begging them to change the ruleset of the existing red server. That doesn’t break any of their server stability promises and might make the server more viable even without the big influx a fresh server gets.

[Jimjam]

Red 1.2 > no Red 2.0

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/NgSJ1Jd.jpeg

[reebz]

The "just play blue/green" posts lol

[starkind]

Tbh. If I come back to p99 it's to to red or whatever server has some form of pvp 1.0, 1.2, 2.0, teams, endgame only, whatever, otherwise. I can't play on bluebie servers anymore. Just can't get past lvl 20 on blue/green.

[Disease]

The "just play blue/green" posts lol

Scared of competition or you just enjoy playing with 20 people? Do you talk to humans in real life? Seek help

[Gustoo]

Has to be at least my 200th disappointing visit to these forums.
Starting a with a clean slate.

Disappointment: #1

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/unzfnaD.jpeg

[Fame]

#72

Almost died from a gallbladder explosion, would be a real shame if I lived this whole life and never played red 2.0

Take care of your health, elfs.

[Gustoo]

#2

How did you get dynamite in your gallbladder?

[starkind]

Ya how

[Fame]

#73

Pushin 40, genetics, probably too much rich fatty foods

[Gustoo]

#3 so you're saying the lack of a new pvp server did it. I think we have a case. Ill call jackie

[Lord Casey]

#73

Pushin 40, genetics, probably too much rich fatty foods

Actually foods rich in any fat besides trans fat are practically the healthiest things you can possibly ingest. - Unless you don't exercise

You're dying because you don't know anything about health. It's an after thought, right? It's only your life.

[Gustoo]

#4

[starkind]

I eat tonnns of pure fats. I also eat tons of fiber and whole foods and fruit. I avoid fried foods and fake fats like the plague.

My gallbladder is doing okish... betteresque. I probably need to still watch it anyway.


Anyway Casey fame probably only eats walrus, whale, seal, elk, and salmon fat. Maybe bear fat occasionally too.

So I doubt it was bigmacs. I think I would have problems on the Eskimo or Inuit diet also.

[Gustoo]

#5

[starkind]

3sCgbKjthdU

[Wurlabit]

posting, disappointed

[Gustoo]

#6

[bigfun]

reading about VZTZ and how lame it is :( and just started on red in the hopes that maybe i can prepare for 2.0 :(

[Gustoo]

#7

A noble quest sir bigfun. Good luck!

[Fame]

#74

[Chortles Snortles]

if that one time was all we got im ok with it

[Disease]

if that one time was all we got im ok with it

These people can't understand this and move on. Rogean willnt be starting a new red server. Play your current red server or don't play at all.

[trusken]

59rog 54 druid 52 wiz 48 sk 35 monk LfG .... I'm back to the server after a 6 year or so break ....

[Gustoo]

#8

Disease is a pve guy

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/RtI044V.jpeg

[Zemgus]

lets share our cat tiktok videos. <- has cat tiktok videos =)

[Gustoo]

#9

[starkind]

This page has changed like three times like weird.

[Swish]

come on now

[Gustoo]

#10

[starkind]

Badass pvp characters that could exist on red 2.0 (https://www.deviantart.com/develv/art/The-prophet-Daniel-and-St-Archangel-Michael-741604450)

[Fame]

#75


if that one time was all we got im ok with it

Acceptance phase in the steps of grieving. He has ascended. I will be there shortly, see ya at the cabin, heard the fish are biting. I'll bring brews.

[bigfun]

Im having a bm thinkin about red 2.0

[Gustoo]

#11

I have no plans to ascend.

Many plans for posting while going poop.

See you in kelethin.

[starkind]

.

[Gustoo]

#12

[starkind]

really dissapointed because it looks like players spirits are breaking and they aren't posting their dissapointment even

https://i.imgur.com/g4NIH40.jpg

[Shac]

when is the fresh red?

[Shrubwise]

when is the fresh red?

It is not coming. Never has been, and never will be.

[Tradesonred]

when is the fresh red?

I will laugh my ass off if this happens: People here theorycrafting the best server setup for a year or 2 and then out of the blue Rogean screams: Allrite times up lets do this, LEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEENNNKIIIIINNNS and turns on a switch for a teams no level limit xp loss pvp server, never to be heard from again.

[starkind]

i was so disapointed today i set up some wow addons for a bit

[Disease]

when is the fresh red?

Everyone wants a new red. It will never come. Rogean got emotional and abandoned red.

[A Knight]

Disappointed that I can't enjoy, my Autism heaven, fantasy world simulator, on multiple pvp servers.

[Gustoo]

Lucky unlucky #13

[Zemgus]

vztz #18 right around the corner

[starkind]

Disappointed that I can't enjoy, my Autism heaven, fantasy world simulator, on multiple pvp servers.
YES
Everyone wants a new red. It will never come. Rogean got emotional and abandoned red.
:( I recommend DBT pretty sure rogean is rapidly occisalting between TLP and WoW at this point unless there's a starwars sim or something g-d bless his heart --- he's not the one that has to do a lot of work anyway - probably more like 'f'ck if I open a new server I will have to wait till it dies again' and -- like cats you just don't want to rescue any more at some point
Lucky unlucky #13
very unlucky who knows tho

i'll probably check this thread every day for the rest of my life or the forums life whichever is shorter
vztz #18 right around the corner
hope so, yall put out some great box's keep getting better at it -- still would love red 1.0 rolled into blue and green and red2 launched ppl would come play especially knowing their pixels wouldn't rot - classic - kunark is good - velious meh - I bet luclin pvp is better than velious pvp

[Gustoo]

YES

:( I recommend DBT pretty sure rogean is rapidly occisalting between TLP and WoW at this point unless there's a starwars sim or something g-d bless his heart --- he's not the one that has to do a lot of work anyway - probably more like 'f'ck if I open a new server I will have to wait till it dies again' and -- like cats you just don't want to rescue any more at some point

very unlucky who knows tho

i'll probably check this thread every day for the rest of my life or the forums life whichever is shorter

hope so, yall put out some great box's keep getting better at it -- still would love red 1.0 rolled into blue and green and red2 launched ppl would come play especially knowing their pixels wouldn't rot - classic - kunark is good - velious meh - I bet luclin pvp is better than velious pvp

Peak luclin pvp is hoping you can AA mana burn some sucka who zoned out of bazaar carrying 1 million PP and instantly becomes hyper encumbered

#14

[starkind]

Peak luclin pvp is hoping you can AA mana burn some sucka who zoned out of bazaar carrying 1 million PP and instantly becomes hyper encumbered

that was epic when u had 4k unique players per server (1-2k pops during primetimez) and know one still rly knew what they were doin or y

[Jimjam]

Any pvp anecdote that isn’t about low level pvp in the faydark just reaffirms my conviction that the beat pvp is low level pvp in the faydark.

Your story is still pretty entertaining though, Gustoo!

[Jimjam]

Any pvp anecdote that isn’t about low level pvp in the faydark just reaffirms my conviction that the beat pvp is low level pvp in the faydark.

Your story is still pretty entertaining though, Gustoo!

[starkind]

Any pvp anecdote that isn’t about low level pvp in the faydark just reaffirms my conviction that the beat pvp is low level pvp in the faydark.

Your story is still pretty entertaining though, Gustoo!

Any pvp anecdote that isn’t about low level pvp in the faydark just reaffirms my conviction that the beat pvp is low level pvp in the faydark.

Your story is still pretty entertaining though, Gustoo!

found someone who is double dissapointed :( :(

[Gustoo]

#15

In luclin, it took a while for GFay to die. Not everyone had the expansion right away and not everyone could run Luclin. There was a lot of pvp at the portal spires as they only kicked off every 15 mins or whatever. For a good while I could
make money buying things in gfay and selling them at the bazaar and vice versa.

It was immediately obvious the game would never be as good as it was, ever again. But for most people there was a long period just exploring the new world and features and messing with the /set face command on the new character models.

But that needs no explanation as most people in p99 land know it’s all about pre luclin.

I think it’s impossible to recreate original 1999 to 2001 experience but you can drag out the leveling process artificially to make people spend more time at the pre level 50 parts of the game than they otherwise would in 2022z

The main thing is we all know it’s pointless doing buy sell trade activities as a level 10 to eventually afford a set of bronze armor because if you just blast up the levels you can get all the good armor without opening a trade window with another player.

People are just better and grinding levels now and know that being level 50 means you can make more plat easier.

On live tons of people never made it past level 40 after 5 years playing which meant there were a lot more people doing a lot more things in a lot more zones. Plus new people buying the retail package all the time.

Here I think it would have to be artificial level caps to slow progression.

Vanilla era should end in a two week long mega event celebrating the great era and with memorials to the champs of the era

[starkind]

#15

In luclin, it took a while for GFay to die. Not everyone had the expansion right away and not everyone could run Luclin. There was a lot of pvp at the portal spires as they only kicked off every 15 mins or whatever. For a good while I could
make money buying things in gfay and selling them at the bazaar and vice versa.

It was immediately obvious the game would never be as good as it was, ever again. But for most people there was a long period just exploring the new world and features and messing with the /set face command on the new character models.

But that needs no explanation as most people in p99 land know it’s all about pre luclin.

I think it’s impossible to recreate original 1999 to 2001 experience but you can drag out the leveling process artificially to make people spend more time at the pre level 50 parts of the game than they otherwise would in 2022z

The main thing is we all know it’s pointless doing buy sell trade activities as a level 10 to eventually afford a set of bronze armor because if you just blast up the levels you can get all the good armor without opening a trade window with another player.

People are just better and grinding levels now and know that being level 50 means you can make more plat easier.

On live tons of people never made it past level 40 after 5 years playing which meant there were a lot more people doing a lot more things in a lot more zones. Plus new people buying the retail package all the time.

Here I think it would have to be artificial level caps to slow progression.

Vanilla era should end in a two week long mega event celebrating the great era and with memorials to the champs of the era

really great post--- by this token even velious which was ruining eq was still not fully explored by most ppl by the time luclin rolled out so ppl were still doing kunark things and the number of sperglords was still minimal and there were still 300 ppl primetime that would stomp them if they got outta hand with their pixel lustsn --- power dynamics are inverse here the scrubs don't outnumber the 1337s now 10 to 1 it's the other way around

velious and luclin were just not problems on live

i like the idea of ganking ppl with aa's tho and it made some casters relevant again

[Fame]

#76

[Gustoo]

#16

[Tassador]

45 players on basically the average that a new server would have month 6 with good reason. Voting not disappointed.

[Gustoo]

That statement has zero basis in reality. Red had around 500 pop basically until velious hit even through full guild ban waves. It had 300 pop for like a year of velious.

Its a ten year old server with a pvp ruleset that means there’s no reason to play it for anyone, so they just play blue green instead.

Red two will have a robust pop for at least three years regardless of ruleset or terrible staff decisions.

Longer if things go well.

#17

[Tassador]

Red had 500 pop until velious. Bro lay off the crusade you sound drainbamaged.

[starkind]

Ya. Velious is horrible.

[Tradesonred]

That statement has zero basis in reality. Red had around 500 pop basically until velious hit even through full guild ban waves. It had 300 pop for like a year of velious.

Its a ten year old server with a pvp ruleset that means there’s no reason to play it for anyone, so they just play blue green instead.

Red two will have a robust pop for at least three years regardless of ruleset or terrible staff decisions.

Longer if things go well.

#17

Red had a disastrous launch / ruleset that was left neglected for 1.5 year+ and was only corrected when the server hit single digit pop and then crippled again a month or 2 after that with the xp nerf. Theres no reason to think that a server with a decent ruleset from the get go will not hit 300+ players into classic + kunark. If we are lucky on top of that and we get an article in PC gamer (lol) or some streamer decides to hype the launch with spillover from green/blue we might be looking at 600-700 steady players for 3+ years. Its hard to stress enough what kind of difference no xp loss from day1 will make. People will have fun instead of hiding from pvp. This is likely to make the pop grow, not dwindle fast. Night and day.

[A Knight]

Its hard to stress enough what kind of difference no xp loss from day1 will make. People will have fun instead of hiding from pvp. This is likely to make the pop grow, not dwindle fast. Night and day.

If we could find all the answers positive and negative, to solve the solution some how. Then the voice in my head screaming, "Stop making fucking Everquest easier!", hunger may be cured. In the subject, if we determine, there is no other answer.

If anything else is an absolute, insanely complicated programing nightmare, then I could play and have my legit old game feel.

[heartbrand]

Red had 500 pop until velious. Bro lay off the crusade you sound drainbamaged.

500 pop until velious? What is this dude on? I remember being one of two players online when sol ro temple went live.

[Gustoo]

Its true I get a little enthusiastic.

P99 team would have to bend over backwards to pull off a worse ruleset and launch strat for red 2. Pop will be great for a while and we’ll enjoy it while it lasts.

[A Knight]

Its true I get a little enthusiastic.

P99 team would have to bend over backwards to pull off a worse ruleset and launch strat for red 2. Pop will be great for a while and we’ll enjoy it while it lasts.

It might not ever work. I could just be a crazy autist that loves my autism game. Or people could just never see the greatness in classic eq. (Classic-Velious) If it some how got 100-150 pop regularly, it would be a fun risk. I had to polish up saying a risk, because I'd hate to over extend p99s goals. I could play old red forever, but new red would be fun, if the risk turns out to be reward enough.

[Gustoo]

theres a lot of people waiting for a new server. a lot of blues will try a fresh shot at a red server if only to enjoy the progression period of the game, which basically is the only part of the game with any meaning. once you hit level 60 and are raiding for best in slot pixels the game is over the moment you start.

[Zemgus]

stop whining, log in, form up. no one wants your call of duty eqpvp.

[Zemgus]

ask for a red2 server that gets wiped every 3 months. and a forum. all any of you last on vztzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's is 2 to 3 months. 100% sure someones already asked for a wipe on the last shit box.

[Tassador]

500 pop until velious? What is this dude on? I remember being one of two players online when sol ro temple went live.

We tend to remember the great times over the months of emptiness. Like a sicko I farmed gbs and hadden when there was like 7 other people on fighting friedchicken for fishbone earrings.

I mean there will never be another red unless rogaines hits his head hard on something.

And 100% most of these cats crying will find a flaw to hit eject 1-2 months into the server and that’s ok. You don’t have to love old classic eq your whole life. It’s taxing and demanding with little payout in the end of it all.

[starkind]

there were times it was low

red did have a p good pop tho

the best server would be vanilla red rz style with green and blue shut down and 2000 unique players logging in at different times and 3 or 4 big guilds working toghether as pks anti pks

[Gustoo]

#20

There’s a lot of options that could work for a while without being super custom.

Having red 1 as permanent archive will keep people willing to go for it and collect the pixels even if they decide they don’t like pvp.

I think the main people who are anti pvp are full time multi box AFK poopsock item farmers who monopolize cash crop camps and make a living using the staff enforced camp
monopolies on the non pvp servers.

I mean if I had play time I’d be power leveling grips of alts just to monitor and train these permafarmers all the time to free up some camps from psychos. Become the psycho to fight the psycho kinda thing.

[Tradesonred]

We tend to remember the great times over the months of emptiness. Like a sicko I farmed gbs and hadden when there was like 7 other people on fighting friedchicken for fishbone earrings.

I mean there will never be another red unless rogaines hits his head hard on something.

And 100% most of these cats crying will find a flaw to hit eject 1-2 months into the server and that’s ok. You don’t have to love old classic eq your whole life. It’s taxing and demanding with little payout in the end of it all.

Well look at that, a tassador post i dont regret unhiding.

The thing with red is it never got a chance to emulate what happened on Rallos. It was a terrible, griefy, hide from pvp unless youre in a zerg experience.

If we get a server that hits 300-400 on launch (id assume more like 600, like red launch but now with more bored people from green/blue) without xp loss and its a fun experience, with various gangs duking it out nightly, things might turn out quite different than in late 2011.

Or the server will slowly die but this is the way. If i had to bet, id put my money on the server looking at 500+ at least the first year if they dont fuck up the ruleset again.

[DRAGONBAIT]

exp loss on pvp was de dumbest thing ever to happen.

[starkind]

disable EXP loss on red

STEP 1