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cuddlesthekilla
05-14-2011, 12:03 AM
ok so i know monks lose there agro and the creep will go away but does the sk/necro one work the same way?

Just asking cause i have tried multi fd and the creeps will always just keep attacking:confused:

Hoggen
05-14-2011, 12:16 AM
If you just got it, it's like all spells. The first few tries it will fail. It will always have a chance of failing. Casters will break your FD. Etc.

cuddlesthekilla
05-14-2011, 12:19 AM
ok then, just weird that i sat and did it like 30 times and the mob would never go away maybe it will get better

quellren
05-14-2011, 12:42 AM
Look for a message that says '{your name} has fallen to the ground.'
If you see that, FD successfully cast, but didn't fool anyone.

There is no message after a successful Feign Death. The mob just stops attacking and stands there for a few moments before returning to where ever it was before you aggroed it.

Make sure your cast isn't interrupted.

I would estimate that since getting FD as a necro at 16, I've gotten the 'has fallen to the ground' message less than 50 times in 40 levels of using it. And I use it *very* often.

Edit: low alteration skill does NOT effect the probability of success, only the probability of the cast not fizzling.
As mentioned aove, an NPC's cast initiated on you before you FD will still land, and break your feign.

Otto
05-14-2011, 01:27 AM
Make sure attack is off when you cast it.

soup
05-14-2011, 02:31 AM
ok then, just weird that i sat and did it like 30 times and the mob would never go away maybe it will get better

You need to turn auto attack off before feigning, or it will automatically fail with no message given.

At least, that's how it was for monk last time I checked, and I would assume that is the problem you're encountering.

cuddlesthekilla
05-14-2011, 04:50 AM
ty that definitely a reason i had no idea that u had to do that

Duma
05-14-2011, 06:11 AM
I don't remember spell:Feign Death ever failing. It should be 100% success.

That was the pros and cons of each type.

Monks - instant, no need to memorize, chance to fail.
necro/SK - 100% success, cast time, interuptable

Shadey
05-14-2011, 06:28 AM
Oh yeah it does fail. i'd say about 25% of the time. maybe a lil less. Death Peace is a bit better and has a much lower cast time. One trick I use is to macro my FD spell and have it cast three times. So you if you fizzle it still casts.

/pause 7, /cast 8 (or whatever gem your FD is on). and then repeat this once and the third line is just /cast 8

Deathrydar
05-14-2011, 09:24 AM
I don't remember spell:Feign Death ever failing. It should be 100% success.

That was the pros and cons of each type.

Monks - instant, no need to memorize, chance to fail.
necro/SK - 100% success, cast time, interuptable
Oh, it fails! Trust me, lol. The guards in Highpass had a field day with me as I ran two feet, FD, ran two feet, FD....just to get to Highkeep.

Kwetcher
05-14-2011, 10:56 AM
I used to have a macro set up when I played live. I had "/doability 1" (mend) and then "/doability 2"(fiegn death) and then "/con" on the next line. That way with a push of the button I could attempt mend, feign death and con the mob to see if feign was successful. A successful attempt the mob will con indifferent.

stormlord
05-14-2011, 11:01 AM
I just have to say FD is one of the coolest abilities in-game. For an AFKer, it's a true godsend. It's like the pause button/key in a single player game. This is one thing MMO's often miss.

It's like the people who design these think we don't have real lives.

Swish
05-14-2011, 11:15 AM
One of the stumbling blocks with FD is when you're fleeing from caster mobs. If you feign while the caster is mid-flow casting a spell, it will still land on you and when you take the damage it exposes you as still being alive :p

Only way to get around it is to eat the damage, and try FD as soon as it lands...tricky though in places like Mistmoore where there's occasions where a train includes more than 1 caster ;(

Shadey
05-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I used to have a macro set up when I played live. I had "/doability 1" (mend) and then "/doability 2"(fiegn death) and then "/con" on the next line. That way with a push of the button I could attempt mend, feign death and con the mob to see if feign was successful. A successful attempt the mob will con indifferent.

Great idea on the /con

I'm gonna add that to my macro on my Necro. :)

redghosthunter
05-14-2011, 12:14 PM
This is how it used to be....

I don't remember spell:Feign Death ever failing. It should be 100% success.

That was the pros and cons of each type.

Monks - instant, no need to memorize, chance to fail.
necro/SK - 100% success, cast time, interuptable


This is how things changed...


Oh yeah it does fail. i'd say about 25% of the time. maybe a lil less. Death Peace is a bit better and has a much lower cast time. One trick I use is to macro my FD spell and have it cast three times. So you if you fizzle it still casts.

/pause 7, /cast 8 (or whatever gem your FD is on). and then repeat this once and the third line is just /cast 8

Grizzled
05-14-2011, 12:31 PM
seems to work better if you manually turn of auto attack vs letting the spell do it. Mechanically im sure no difference, however i have observed this.