The only solution = L-U-C-L-I-N

[Phillosopher27]

After listening to/and reading countless discussions regarding server rules and dissatisfaction between rating gills on P 99 blue there are a couple of topics I would like to discuss in this post.

There are some fundamental issues that are happening simply because there is no content progression. We have tons of congestion for endgame content, we have a world of Plat inflation, And most people who have been playing here for eight or nine years has at least five or six level 60 toons.

I feel like currently we keep running into the same disagreements over endgame content simply because you have too many people packed into too small of a space. Just like in the real world, if you have too many people crammed into a small space they tend to bicker and fight about equality, small little blips over possessions, etc. etc., opportunities for people shrink with saturation.

I think as a community we should consider the options that expanding the content would promote... i'm sure a lot of people will disagree with this post entirely, and that's OK opinions are what the Internet is for, but I felt like sharing mine simply because I've been on the server for a very long time, we have a huge population here for a very limited amount of content, I understand that green server was supposed to help divide that population up a bit, but after talking with a lot of people have found more optimism with this idea then push back, expanding to the moon allows for more character progression, less saturation in TOV, and also would eliminate these constant rule change battles that we keep needing to re-visit.

I understand that the hate mail that will be left following this post will be overwhelming, thanks for taking the time to read some random person's opinion

[Ripqozko]

That’s gonna be a nah from me dawg, just keep them suspended indefinitely that’s the correct answer.

[Tunabros]

nah

[garfo]

you understand that the bottlenecks would just move up to the moon, right? and that this very suggestion goes against everything Project 1999 stands for, down to the name?

[conoutoftrol]

I agree the new models would solve most issues here

[Clazxiss]

you understand that the bottlenecks would just move up to the moon, right? and that this very suggestion goes against everything Project 1999 stands for, down to the name?

If you want classic EQ and the true vision of what P99 is or should be, go to green. Both the blue and red server are beta versions for their respective projects. I doubt Luclin would be in the cards, as interesting as that expansion is to me. Looking at how long it took for one zone like Chardok to come out, an entire expansion would be hell on the dev team. Not worth the effort considering how disgustingly entitled the current player base is.

It's unfortunate that this museum is trashed as badly as it is by the patrons. They don't deserve the project as they treat it like something they pay, demanding Rogean and crew do their bidding for free.

I say to heck with them. Whatever is the easiest solution for the staff is the one that should be taken. If instancing is on the table, I say do it and allow everyone to get their participation trophies! That will drive some of the most toxic players off the server.

[Naethyn]

Luclin would be the greatest thing to ever happen on this server. This isn't project 1999 anymore, and it hasn't been for a long time. The project has changed and evolved.

[Phillosopher27]

I would donate 1000$ usd to the cause... and while only a small contribution, I'm sure there are more out there who feel the same. We should pool together funds and make it happen!

[Clazxiss]

I would donate 1000$ usd to the cause... and while only a small contribution, I'm sure there are more out there who feel the same. We should pool together funds and make it happen!

As potential donors, I would expect a possible cocktail party....in game! Hob nobbing with the elites of P99 to make donations happen. We can share stories of our heroic deeds from Live and P99, before the toxic clowns began to squeeze their noses at us all.

[Phillosopher27]

There would certainly be jumjum juice infusions for the lot of us!

[Hrothgar]

Game gets better every expansion. Release the mooncats and their warders!

[Croco]

Luclin would be the greatest thing to ever happen on this server. This isn't project 1999 anymore, and it hasn't been for a long time. The project has changed and evolved.

completely agree

[Wokka]

I was told they can't introduce Luclin because of legal issues with Daybreak. Any truth to that?

[Fammaden]

I was told they won't introduce Luclin because they have good taste.

[Hisamori]

Delete blue is the answer.

[Croco]

Delete blue is the answer.

D:

[enjchanter]

I would donate 1000$ usd to the cause... and while only a small contribution, I'm sure there are more out there who feel the same. We should pool together funds and make it happen!

I would pay $100 usd for a simple race change option

[White_knight]

Delete blue is the answer.

=D, make new red99 with empty slot

[Zoolander]

I would directly go PoP progression zones without PoK. entrance of first tier deep inside ToV.

now how cool would that be?

[jolanar]

Luclin would be the greatest thing to ever happen on this server. This isn't project 1999 anymore, and it hasn't been for a long time. The project has changed and evolved.

This.

Blue goes to Luclin. Green can stay at Velious for another 10 years.

[Zoggren]

I also believe that per the deal they have with Daybreak that they cannot release Luclin.

[Jauna]

PoP or bust. Luclin was shit for casters.

[Phillosopher27]

why would they not be able to release luclin, yet we have TaKP.... makes 0 sense.

[Arvan]

rename to project mario kart when

[Izmael]

Rogean said he mostly purged the server code base from Luclin+ related code.

Luclin isn't happening on P99 (thankfully. It was a terribad expansion).

[Croco]

PoP or bust. Luclin was shit for casters.

I see no problems with this. Casters have it great currently.

[Plumpys]

Just make a mirror of blue and move 50% over to Blue Two. Randomize the 50% on who moves. Some enemies would have to become friends.

[Danth]

Here's this thread again. Standard mode of operation for burnouts and former players: They don't like P99 anymore so they try to ruin it for everyone who does by promoting awful ideas: Luclin, server wipes, etc. Luclin was bad and Planes of Power ruined the game utterly. Velious is a nice stopping point.

Danth

[Tunabros]

NO LUCLIN NOOOO

[Croco]

Here's this thread again. Standard mode of operation for burnouts and former players: They don't like P99 anymore so they try to ruin it for everyone who does by promoting awful ideas: Luclin, server wipes, etc. Luclin was bad and Planes of Power ruined the game utterly. Velious is a nice stopping point.

Danth

Agree to disagree. Luclin was great and PoP was the pinnacle of Everquest.

[feniin]

Agree to disagree. Luclin was great and PoP was the pinnacle of Everquest.

Truth.

[Viscere]

I would donate 1000$ usd to the cause... and while only a small contribution, I'm sure there are more out there who feel the same. We should pool together funds and make it happen!

Id probably donate 10 000$ myself

[KentalCowtipper]

I got a couple benjamins on it.

[Jauna]

I see no problems with this. Casters have it great currently.

But they dont. most raids are mostly rogues and monks being top tier meanwhile nec/mag are pumps and wizards just shuffle people around. druids are still just for glades and spot heals

Planes of Power is when everyone came into their prime. Bards/mages no longer shackled by their epic, wizards bringing shit to the table, necromancers i actually cant remember because its been like 15 or so years, druids and shaman coming into their own being solid dps, hybrids being damn near at their peak from having Block to spells and skills that separate them from being 25/75

But heres the fucking kicker. rog/nil can start working on their own World of Warcraft classic server to really, honestly and seriously make everything come full circle that goes all the fucking way to Wrath of the Lich King to create Project19992.0 then release gates of discord but no one giving a fuck as we are all orc enhancement shaman frost shocking shit to death

[White_knight]

Agree to disagree. Luclin was great and PoP was the pinnacle of Everquest.

PoP was great.

I'd venture to say even up to LDON.

[Phillosopher27]

I definitely didn't make this thread because I'm tired of P 99, but there seems to be a repetitive pattern of toxicity between top rating guilds that continues to cycle over and over again and I think most of it has to do with the congestion at the endgame content level, having more content would allow players to focus on further developing their characters, as well as providing more raid content…


Even if you suspend the top guilds, Eventually even the little guys will get to a point where they grow and get to progress into the endgame content of Velious in the same pattern will continue repeating itself over and over again. This has been going on for years now, GM's are tired of doing a thankless job that they are not getting paid for. Allowing Us to progress to the moon offers them the opportunity to generate some revenue for all their hard work and also gives the players more content.

[Tunabros]

then it wouldn't be project "1999" anymore

[Thaak]

then it wouldn't be project "1999" anymore
Remind me of when Velious was released?

[Ennewi]

Remind me of when Velious was released?

https://youtu.be/ubkyXb_Swnc

[Faxi]

Agree to disagree. Luclin was great and PoP was the pinnacle of Everquest.

Ya. EverQuest was never better than Planes of Power. subscriptions reached its highest in PoP, concurrent online players were never higher. The classes were so more developed; there was no worthless class and teamwork was at its height. Boss fights had actual... mechanics. Not just mindless tank and spank and CH chains. So many cool scripted events for even medium sized guilds. The Planes Flagging was like an epic quest for the entire guild. its a real bummer that Project 2002 is a 3 box server. really ruined it for me.

[Tunabros]

https://youtu.be/ubkyXb_Swnc

close enough lol

[scifo76]

No to Luclin (PoK, Bazaar and Boxing) on Blue.

Yes to launch a new server (Purple Server) with Luclin, where people can play Luclin and stop wasting their time trying to modify Blue. Tons of people have invested tons of time on Blue with the knowledge and constant promise of the server being Velious-locked. It would be like shitting all over them if Luclin was released. Just because some players are "bored" with Blue doesn't mean you get to decide to change it.

So, launch a Luclin server and we all get the option to CHOOSE.

[Tunabros]

No to Luclin (PoK, Bazaar and Boxing) on Blue.

Yes to launch a new server (Purple Server) with Luclin, where people can play Luclin and stop wasting their time trying to modify Blue. Tons of people have invested tons of time on Blue with the knowledge and constant promise of the server being Velious-locked. It would be like shitting all over them if Luclin was released. Just because some players are "bored" with Blue doesn't mean you get to decide to change it.

So, launch a Luclin server and we all get the option to CHOOSE.

Does anyone want to do us all a favor? lol

http://www.eqemulator.org/

[Phillosopher27]

No to Luclin (PoK, Bazaar and Boxing) on Blue.

Yes to launch a new server (Purple Server) with Luclin, where people can play Luclin and stop wasting their time trying to modify Blue. Tons of people have invested tons of time on Blue with the knowledge and constant promise of the server being Velious-locked. It would be like shitting all over them if Luclin was released. Just because some players are "bored" with Blue doesn't mean you get to decide to change it.

So, launch a Luclin server and we all get the option to CHOOSE.

I think the constant toxicity between top-tier Guilds, Raid suspensions, And the cause of this being a velios locked server, Is the equivalent of everyone getting shit on… But I like your idea of the addition of a third server with perhaps the option to move characters from blue over to purple. Thank you for your creative input :)

[Tethler]

I'd personally love to see up to PoP, as it was my favorite era in EQ. It won't happen here though, and not for lack of funds. Devs have clearly stated that they just don't like post-Velious content and have no intention of ever working on it.

[Trexller]

Don't open the entire luclin xpac. Just make the raid zones available. Katta, Ssra, Vex Thal, The Deep etc. It's all lvl 60 content anyway.

Forget about AAs, just make the guilds work harder.

[Shac]

Add LDON's I want to augment my staff, but really tho... Beastlords are kinda cool

[Tunabros]

tbh luclin is when everquest stopped being everquesty

at a small degree

[Bardp1999]

The only answer is for people not to kill dragons into infinity and actually move on when they have done end game content for awhile so that others can enjoy it also

[elkantor]

So, launch a Luclin server and we all get the option to CHOOSE.
this

[elkantor]

Don't open the entire luclin xpac. Just make the raid zones available. Katta, Ssra, Vex Thal, The Deep etc. It's all lvl 60 content anyway.

Forget about AAs, just make the guilds work harder.

I'd like to see an Emperor Ssraezsha (or any of the Vex Thall bosses) without AAs... unless you bring 300 people, shit won't go down.
You are completely underestimating the impact of tanking AAs, Spell Subtely AAs, Mass Group Buff and all the rest... AAs were the biggest quality of life improvement upgrade ever brought to EQ.

[Walex]

Y'all are crazy if you think luclin will solve anything. All it does is move the toxicity to VT and ssra. Ntov loot, with the exception of a few pieces from vulak, sucks in comparison. Ntov would be empty.

Also, I love how you think the devs can just wave their hands and make an expansion appear. Remember how long velious development took? If you want luclin go somewhere else.

[Phillosopher27]

Y'all are crazy if you think luclin will solve anything. All it does is move the toxicity to VT and ssra. Ntov loot, with the exception of a few pieces from vulak, sucks in comparison. Ntov would be empty.

Also, I love how you think the devs can just wave their hands and make an expansion appear. Remember how long velious development took? If you want luclin go somewhere else.

I think that's why some of us are willing to offer financial incentive to make this happen and put our money where our mouth is, other EQMU servers have been able to make TOV a priority along side LUCLIN content, and before you simply just say "go play there" they have shortcomings like allowing players to box...

So no, I don't think the toxicity would just migrate over to SSRA and VT. I think what would happen is there would be an expansion on content and there wouldn't be so much focus on one zone that three guilds are trying to play in at the same time every week. This expansion of content would literally provide just enough extra to support the population size we have here on blue 99 in a harmonious way

[Tethler]

I think that's why some of us are willing to offer financial incentive to make this happen and put our money where our mouth is

I'd personally love to see up to PoP, as it was my favorite era in EQ. It won't happen here though, and not for lack of funds. Devs have clearly stated that they just don't like post-Velious content and have no intention of ever working on it.

[Phillosopher27]

They might have a distaste for that content, but there is also a prevalent reoccurring issue Of unsavory behavior due to this limitation because of server population size, limited content, and the toxicity that will keep repeating itself. Again this is only my perspective on a solution for this repetitive behavior, it is only an opinion, I don't really think any of it will ever substantiate or come to fruition…

But it's nice to come here and discuss it as a possibility, It offers a different approach and mentality to a problem that's been going on for years. It is essentially the same type of bickering that goes on between political parties, my opinion offers transcendence. People don't like change, it's understandable.

I just want harmony on a server that I love with friends I've been playing with for over 8 years now :)

[Pint]

Obviously the thing that would take the biggest load off of the over worked unpaid volunteer staff is to introduce the vt key camps to non instanced p99, certainly the player base here would handle that well

[Phillosopher27]

Obviously the thing that would take the biggest load off of the over worked unpaid volunteer staff is to introduce the vt key camps to non instanced p99, certainly the player base here would handle that well

^This! So, so this 😂☠️🤣

[bktroost]

Luclin lives on TAKP.

[Hisamori]

TAKP rotates all content. Also, cannot paid/fund devs. They have strict agreement with Daybreak that keeps P99 in semi-sanctioned territory.

[bktroost]

TAKP rotates all content. Also, cannot paid/fund devs. They have strict agreement with Daybreak that keeps P99 in semi-sanctioned territory.

Yes 👍

[feniin]

Luclin lives on TAKP.

[Phillosopher27]

I would have brought that up, however since this is a blue 99 forums discussion I didn't think it would be appropriate to mention that here, and also because a lot of people have been playing here for a very long time.

there is a very strong community on blue 99, wanted to discuss with the servers current population about their thoughts on moving into a new era on this server As a solution for top guild behavior/ToV bans

[Hrothgar]

tbh luclin is when everquest stopped being everquesty

at a small degree

If you think blue is EverQuest, you are off your rocker

[Ennewi]

If you think blue is EverQuest, you are off your rocker

"If you think Bitches Brew is jazz..." "If you think modded Skyrim is TES..."

[bktroost]

I would have brought that up, however since this is a blue 99 forums discussion I didn't think it would be appropriate to mention that here, and also because a lot of people have been playing here for a very long time.

there is a very strong community on blue 99, wanted to discuss with the servers current population about their thoughts on moving into a new era on this server As a solution for top guild behavior/ToV bans

Let me explain why it is, in fact, the most appropriate response.

Most of the people who are on TAKP from P99 are there because we wanted a reprieve from the current bloat that exists on p99 and the drama and toxicity that follows. We moved from P99 because the Devs here do not WANT their server to be characterized by rotations, peace pacts and civility. They are very clear about wanting a highly competitive environment. If you make suggestions that remove the pain you are experiencing, then you are making suggestions to also remove the competitive nature that this environment creates. Therefore, you are suggesting a highly inappropriate suggestion.

You are also suggesting a solution (to this non-problem) that has clearly been shown to be opposed to their Era design.

If you really want a change of environment, go to a different environment.

[elkantor]

competition can happen without the trains / toxicity

trains happen because guilds skip content by kiting mobs and when they lose the FTE race, they just release the kited mobs, who path back and train the guild who won the FTE.

make some additional rules :
-skiping/kiting illegal if another guild is in the area,
-first FTE message gives other guilds a 30 minutes lockout where they are not allowed to engage the FTE'd boss.

For that purpose, give the FTE messages on a boss a 30 minutes cooldown.

with these simple rules there will be no trains, no leapfrogging, and those two points alone will reduce 90% of the toxicity while maintaining a competitive environment.

[Phillosopher27]

Let me explain why it is, in fact, the most appropriate response.

Most of the people who are on TAKP from P99 are there because we wanted a reprieve from the current bloat that exists on p99 and the drama and toxicity that follows. We moved from P99 because the Devs here do not WANT their server to be characterized by rotations, peace pacts and civility. They are very clear about wanting a highly competitive environment. If you make suggestions that remove the pain you are experiencing, then you are making suggestions to also remove the competitive nature that this environment creates. Therefore, you are suggesting a highly inappropriate suggestion.

You are also suggesting a solution (to this non-problem) that has clearly been shown to be opposed to their Era design.

If you really want a change of environment, go to a different environment.

Well said! Thanks for your input Nemce :)

[bktroost]

Well said! Thanks for your input Nemce :)

You are a good person. I appreciated your open mindedness. RnF doesn't deserve you.

[Trexller]

Don't open the entire luclin xpac. Just make the raid zones available. Katta, Ssra, Vex Thal, The Deep etc. It's all lvl 60 content anyway.

Forget about AAs, just make the guilds work harder.

best idea ever.

[bktroost]

best idea ever.

Literally everything is killable without AAs... although Shei Vinitras fight would be HILARIOUS to watch 80 people without AAs in Halls of Testing gear.

The death trigger mechanic would trigger so fast it might break the zone.

[Trexller]

Literally everything is killable without AAs... although Shei Vinitras fight would be HILARIOUS to watch 80 people without AAs in Halls of Testing gear.

The death trigger mechanic would trigger so fast it might break the zone.

PoP is like 4 xpacs after luclin. Forget that shit.

Somewhere in odus ports you to a luclin raid zone, and you go at it. End of discussion.

This is the only acceptable and at-all-likely content to be added. They will not add the full luclin expansion.

This type of thread pops up every few months, its the same discussion everytime, "i like this about luclin, I dont like this about luclin" nothing gets done.

Content added, even if based on luclin will be highly customized.

Forget bane weapons and vex-thal key farming

Raid Zones. Just the raid zones.

[Walex]

PoP actually is THE next expansion lol. Released 4 months before LoY

[Trexller]

PoP actually is THE next expansion lol. Released 4 months before LoY

you obviously missed the point. like totally naive over your head. just had to get in there with your dork-nerd minor fact correction.

but thanks for demonstrating how chronic masturbation is more productive than a luclin debate.

[Walex]

Well, I was replying to the comment above mine which has since been deleted. But anyway, thanks for that response.

[elkantor]

Raid Zones. Just the raid zones.
That would be a very customish server, instead of a wannabe classic server
They'll never do that and you know it.

[feniin]

you obviously missed the point. like totally naive over your head. just had to get in there with your dork-nerd minor fact correction.

but thanks for demonstrating how chronic masturbation is more productive than a luclin debate.

Who hurt you?

[bktroost]

Raid Zones. Just the raid zones.

Yeah but then you can never abuse the caller quest event to aoe in Fungus Grove. Think Chardok aoe groups, pre nerf on steroids.

Juicy.