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Tunabros
12-03-2020, 03:12 PM
Followup on: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367212

on where i asked which was better: a wood elf or dark elf both in fashion and stats

I played a wood elf warrior and dark elf warrior to both lv 20 and I got to say I

wasn't entirely happy with the results. First, the low strength was kinda jacked

but at least I looked cool. Which meant I couldn't really do my job ( as a tank ) and

was mostly put on dps.

So I am thinking of rerolling. But not ogre or troll (gross), would iksar be my next bet?

heard it is quite difficult since they don't have plate armor until velious

Any advice or tips? thanks!

TLDR: follow up from my wood/dark elf warrior thread, want to do something else

instead, what race besides (ogre/troll) :p

Stonewallx39
12-03-2020, 03:23 PM
Iksar would definitely be a good choice. Now that combat bind wound was nerfed (rest in peace sweet mistress) you will get a lot of miles from that extra regen if you need to solo in between groups. The AC bonus is obviously very useful on a tank and the +xp% of warrior we reduce the hits from being an iksar.

That being said Iksar is really tough faction wise and without any tricks like feign death (monk, necro), self sow and root (shaman), and sneak (monk) your life can get really tough when your too far from Cabillis.

Tunabros
12-03-2020, 03:25 PM
Iksar would definitely be a good choice. Now that combat bind wound was nerfed (rest in peace sweet mistress) you will get a lot of miles from that extra regen if you need to solo in between groups. The AC bonus is obviously very useful on a tank and the +xp% of warrior we reduce the hits from being an iksar.

That being said Iksar is really tough faction wise and without any tricks like feign death (monk, necro), self sow and root (shaman), and sneak (monk) your life can get really tough when your too far from Cabillis.

Seems like pretty good points. I'll have to take use to the non KOS merchants in norrath

though, it will be quite frustrating

Any gear recommendations for iksar warrior?

Jibartik
12-03-2020, 03:31 PM
I personally like dwarf warriors. With little bloodpoints they are adorable little critters.

https://i.imgur.com/DJxtmgx.png

Legidias
12-03-2020, 03:54 PM
As per any warrior race thread, gnome all the way with clockwork armor

Baler
12-03-2020, 04:03 PM
Halfling Warrior is underrated.

Tunabros
12-03-2020, 04:09 PM
Halfling Warrior is underrated.

but no fashion!

Danth
12-03-2020, 04:25 PM
What'd you put your starting points in on the wood elf and dark elf? Were you wearing small-type armor? I ask because if you pick a medium race you'll be stuck wearing heavier medium-size armor which'll cancel out a lot of the strength gain from picking the medium race. Iksars are rather poor in Kunark due to having to wear what amounts to ranger armor. They come into their own in Velious. On the plus side, that ranger armor won't weigh a ton so at least the iksar isn't as likely to have strength problems. A wood elf or dark elf with 90 or 95 baseline strength should be adequate. If it isn't, then something like a human or half elf with 105-110 won't suffice either because it'll feel about the same in practice since higher armor weight will mostly cancel out the racial strength gains during the levels where you're wearing sized armor types like banded or bronze. If that's the case then you'll want to pick something like dwarf or barbarian which has higher innate strength (or the iksar as noted above if you're willing to tolerate some months of being sub-par).

If you didn't put points into strength as such a race that's potentially a mistake during this era of the game. Ideal end-game stats don't help if a player quits in frustration without ever getting there. A wood elf with 75 strength is outright depressing when he tries to wear bronze armor and finds himself encumbered without even looting anything.

Danth

Stonewallx39
12-03-2020, 08:14 PM
I’ll also make a pitch for barbarian, if your dead set on not being one of the other big races. (Though I’d recommend Ogre for the #fashionquest but to each there own). Slam is incredibly valuable when leveling especially now that push has nerfed beyond the pale. One of the most frustrating things in the game when I switch from my warrior to monk is mobs healing themselves and friggen gating like crazy now.

Trazic
12-03-2020, 10:14 PM
Slam is incredibly valuable when leveling especially now that push has nerfed beyond the pale.

Any race of warrior can interrupt. Carry a shield and when a spell starts casting you simply swap it in, press your bash keybind, and click the mouse again to put offhand weapon back. You won't even miss a beat. It is pretty easy and seamless. (admittedly it is a fair bit of annoyance when you are using a 2hander though)

In my opinion dwarf is the best warrior on paper if you are ogre/troll averse. In addition to their generally good stats they get a bonus 5 MR and PR which not many people consider. I guess you could make an argument for iksar in velious though.

axisofebola
12-03-2020, 10:24 PM
Iksar
- some of the animations could only be described as hideous
-- significant exp penalty
- worse item selection.
++ regen
+ AC bonus

Gnomes
- fasionquest males look like pedophiles, females look like children. both look like they are ready for tea time with their weaponry
- comprehensively awful warrior stats
+ wall hack
+ eventually can self haste with tinkering
+ small without shrink

Halflings
+ hide
+ sneak
+ multiplicative exp bonus (5.5%)
+ghetto wall hack
+small without need for shrink
- fashion quest: dudes are ugleeeee armor is plain. (chicks are thiccccc tho)

Barb
- blind
- exp penalty
- still gonna want shrink in a lot of places
++ slam
+ fashion quest


Those are the only good choices out of non ogre/trolls.

It's obviously a female halfling, though.

Stonewallx39
12-03-2020, 10:59 PM
Any race of warrior can interrupt. Carry a shield and when a spell starts casting you simply swap it in, press your bash keybind, and click the mouse again to put offhand weapon back. You won't even miss a beat. It is pretty easy and seamless. (admittedly it is a fair bit of annoyance when you are using a 2hander though)

Thank you for reminding me, it’s funny Ive been slamming for so long I pretty much forgot about this. I will say I’ve grouped with lots of little warriors and I can’t remember seeing them pulling out the shield a ton.

I have a half elf warrior on green created with grand visions of busting out the shield and bashing at that critical moment, really bringing the “skill” back to warrior. It didn’t work out for me at least and I ended up selling my shield. It was definitely tricky with the green UI, and I was usually too busy trying to keep aggro. Not to say someone more determined than I couldn’t do it really well.

Crede
12-03-2020, 11:23 PM
Dwarf with the dwarven armor has pretty crazy starting war stats. I love barb warriors though. Great fashion, slam, and being tall and not fat is cool.

Snaggles
12-04-2020, 03:42 AM
It.doesn’t.matter.

If one were to nitpick racials though sneak (halfling) is very handy as is 40% spell haste arms/wall look (gnomes). Even as nice as these are though pick what you like the look of.

Do keep in mind ogres and trolls in many cases will need a cobalt bracer ($$$) or ant potions (about 20p a click). Picking a medium or small warrior will make your life easier or at least cheaper.

Gwaihir
12-04-2020, 04:25 AM
Seems like pretty good points. I'll have to take use to the non KOS merchants in norrath

though, it will be quite frustrating

Any gear recommendations for iksar warrior?

True silver armor drops in kaesora and has better ac per slot than fine plate while covering all visible armor slots. Start with that and a pair of 5/55s, and go from there

Keebz
12-04-2020, 05:12 AM
Do keep in mind ogres and trolls in many cases will need a cobalt bracer ($$$) or ant potions (about 20p a click).

Troll is appreciably smaller than Ogre in tight spaces in my experience, but still large and in charge. I've pulled a decent amount in Sol B and Guk as a troll.

Baler
12-04-2020, 09:01 AM
Some resources for trying to min/max fashion quest
https://wiki.project1999.com/Fashion
https://wiki.project1999.com/FashionQuest_Guide

Jimjam
12-04-2020, 11:52 AM
Halfling in Dwarf armour. Great all rounder. Looks great too imho.

You’ll find all warriors have some issues with tanking so early in the server. It gets better with Velious gearflation.

Which weapons were you using?

radbeard
12-04-2020, 08:56 PM
dwarf cultural armor doesn't come out until a month or two before velious release.

Nagoya
12-05-2020, 02:12 AM
disclaimer: this is considering you play on Blue99, and are a filthy twink like all of us, and that you are planning to solo a bunch.

this disclaimer is important because if it is not the case, then it doesn't matter at all and the only thing that matters is FashionQuest. (which may still be the case even with the disclaimer btw, all races are very playable; pick your favorite ass to look at)

i played all races of warrior. when i'm done with one i start a new one because i'm dumb. here is my current breakdown in order from strongest to weakest. in parentheses the suggested starting stats.

TIER 1 (min-maxxing)

Ogre (+25 DEX)
pros: front stun immunity, big race (slam), best stats hands down
cons: big race, very common, quite ugly, evil faction

Troll (+20 DEX +3 STR +2 STA)
pros: natural HP regen, big race (slam)
cons: big race, quite ugly, evil faction

TIER 2 (still very good)

Barbarian (+25 DEX)
pros: big race (slam)
cons: blind as fuck, big race

Dwarf (+10 STR +10 STA +5 DEX)
pros: barrel rolls! +5 MR, small race
cons: no slam, ugly Female models w/o barrel rolls

TIER 3 (sure why not)

Halfling (+20 STR +5 STA)
pros: hide & sneak. +5% xp bonus. small race. rounded stats
cons: no slam, ugly as fuck

Iksar (+20 STR +5 STA)
pros: natural HP regen, swimming (100), AC bonus, start on kunark
cons: ugly 2HX animation, can't wear most plate armor, 'very evil' faction

TIER 4 (why)

Half Elf (+20 STR +5 STA)
pros: can choose from many religions, different starting hubs, and different factions
cons: nothing really, just weak stats

Human (+15 STR +10 STA)
pros: can choose from many religions, different starting hubs, and different factions
cons: blind as fuck

Gnome (+25 STR)
pros: wall vision. clockwork armor, small race, tinkering and neutral faction
cons: very weak ass stats for a warrior

TIER 5 (hard mode tryboi)

Wood Elf (+25 STR)
pros: rare, look cute, they have hide and forage
cons: very weak ass stats for a warrior

Dark Elf (+25 STR)
pros: rare, look badass, they have hide and ultravision
cons: very weak ass stats for a warrior, evil faction

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'big race' as a cons is because of all the stupid ducking. as a pros because of Slam.
'small race' a a pros because of the better view/maneuverability and some reduced weight on some armor.

as a Warrior you will probably use a 2HX from level 20 to 46, and not being able to reliably interrupt during these levels sucks a ton, the big races have a huge advantage on every other races because of this (Slam).

but if you can own two very very good 1HX weapons then you can fast switch a Clay Guardian Shield and Bash or something. But this is definitely playing in hard mode for a Warrior (see disclaimer)

i don't put the 'gnome twink' super high personnally, even tho gnome is arguably my favorite race and my gnome warrior was probably the most fun to play, i don't know why people always say the gnome twink with 40% haste is better than sliced bread, i wonder if they have really tried it... i have and this is the ranking i give it. fight me hehe.

TLDR; in your situation and considering both threads and what we know, i would recommend wholeheartedly the Barbarian Warrior.
Unless I am mistaken and you are planning to start this Warrior on Green. If so, then see top-of-post, FashionQuest should be your sole and only concern.

Jimjam
12-05-2020, 04:03 AM
Halfling Warrior is underrated.

dwarf cultural armor doesn't come out until a month or two before velious release.

Not long now! Farm those components!

Zipity
12-05-2020, 04:39 PM
Iksar warrior has a higher soft and hard cap for AC, also Regen. In velious locked progression it is the true min/max end game.

Snaggles
12-05-2020, 06:29 PM
If you are soloing on Blue as a warrior a gnome isn’t “tier 4”. It’s the only class with clicky 40% spell haste arms. That means with silver chitin handwraps you are walking around at 62% haste. With most good worn haste you have 74-76% haste no matter who’s in your group. If with a sham it’s often not worth the conversation; click the arms and keep killing.

Do me a favor. Next time you get alacrity cast on your warrior stop and think “do I want to be able to keep this on forever?”. As a gnome post level 50 it costs about 25p an hour in mana batteries; at 60 about 20p. With a reaver if you can’t get 20p an hour you aren’t trying very hard.

Naethyn
12-05-2020, 06:53 PM
Iksar warrior has a higher soft and hard cap for AC, also Regen. In velious locked progression it is the true min/max end game.


Iksar has less potential dps than other races https://wiki.project1999.com/Blazing_Gauntlets_of_Fennin_Ro
Along with one of the lowest CHA values (the only real stat that we cannot cap in velious end game) https://wiki.project1999.com/Divine_Intervention
AC is near useless for red con mobs.
They have the starting stamina of a gnome.
Iksar cannot use non consumable shrink or invis items. https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Greaves or https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Bracer


What about iksars is the true min max?

Naethyn
12-05-2020, 07:13 PM
Also, this is endgame velious fashion for human warriors.

http://wiki.project1999.com/images/HumanBerserkerPlate.png

Zipity
12-05-2020, 07:31 PM
Iksar has less potential dps than other races https://wiki.project1999.com/Blazing_Gauntlets_of_Fennin_Ro
Along with one of the lowest CHA values (the only real stat that we cannot cap in velious end game) https://wiki.project1999.com/Divine_Intervention
AC is near useless for red con mobs.
They have the starting stamina of a gnome.
Iksar cannot use non consumable shrink or invis items. https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Greaves or https://wiki.project1999.com/Cobalt_Bracer


What about iksars is the true min max?

Warriors are tank defense is more important on raid mobs than offense if you aren’t tanking just swap to a rogue/wizard/cleric.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Do%60Vassir%60s_Gauntlets_of_Might over those when tanking
CHA can be maxed with an epic/puretone bard easily
Again endgame stamina is easily maxed...you literally talk about cha as an essential min/max stat above.
Shrink pot and invis mask
No other race in the game can have as high AC as an iksar it’s like having an extra high end shield equipped at all times...

Fashion quest, iksars are ugly AF to some and cool to others, I lean toward the first stance and can agree with you on that point. Lol

Nagoya
12-05-2020, 07:37 PM
If you are soloing on Blue as a warrior a gnome isn’t “tier 4”. It’s the only class with clicky 40% spell haste arms. That means with silver chitin handwraps you are walking around at 62% haste. With most good worn haste you have 74-76% haste no matter who’s in your group. If with a sham it’s often not worth the conversation; click the arms and keep killing.

Do me a favor. Next time you get alacrity cast on your warrior stop and think “do I want to be able to keep this on forever?”. As a gnome post level 50 it costs about 25p an hour in mana batteries; at 60 about 20p. With a reaver if you can’t get 20p an hour you aren’t trying very hard.

i don't know what to tell you man.
i levelled faster on my troll and barb than the gnome. incl. all that.
have you played both? or you're just throwing numbers?
i love haste as much as the other guy, got a 34% haste-belt and Haste buffs are indeed my favorite buffs to randonly get when i'm soloing on my warriors;
but everything else about the gnome made it slower and more cumbersome than the big races.

i did ask people to fight me tho, so no problem ^^ but i stand by my ranking, clockwork armor or not.

wagorf
12-06-2020, 10:46 AM
why reroll? u wont find any game changing diff when u switch to another race with bigger sta/str

i have a 60 war myself, i say stick with female wood elf or male/female dark elf (i am none of those races)

i had few hundred k plat to twink my war when i started. the biggest issue, despite my plat and like most wars, is getting nice weapons. i got my weapons from raiding and spending dkp in raiding guild.

ppl always say, just buy loot rights of infestation or willsapper, or VP drops - im telling you now, these people just talk out of their ass - GL spending weeks/months finding people selling loot rights, even if you have the plat (infestation is more likely, forget abt willsapper or VP drops)

it's all about gears

Jimjam
12-06-2020, 12:18 PM
Sadly infestation isn’t candy anymore.

Tunabros
12-06-2020, 07:29 PM
What'd you put your starting points in on the wood elf and dark elf? Were you wearing small-type armor? I ask because if you pick a medium race you'll be stuck wearing heavier medium-size armor which'll cancel out a lot of the strength gain from picking the medium race. Iksars are rather poor in Kunark due to having to wear what amounts to ranger armor. They come into their own in Velious. On the plus side, that ranger armor won't weigh a ton so at least the iksar isn't as likely to have strength problems. A wood elf or dark elf with 90 or 95 baseline strength should be adequate. If it isn't, then something like a human or half elf with 105-110 won't suffice either because it'll feel about the same in practice since higher armor weight will mostly cancel out the racial strength gains during the levels where you're wearing sized armor types like banded or bronze. If that's the case then you'll want to pick something like dwarf or barbarian which has higher innate strength (or the iksar as noted above if you're willing to tolerate some months of being sub-par).

If you didn't put points into strength as such a race that's potentially a mistake during this era of the game. Ideal end-game stats don't help if a player quits in frustration without ever getting there. A wood elf with 75 strength is outright depressing when he tries to wear bronze armor and finds himself encumbered without even looting anything.

Danth

had all points in stamina but I reasonably twinked

Soothsayer
12-07-2020, 01:34 PM
Iksar stands tall with ogres as a min-max race by Velious. Frontal stun immunity loses most of its luster in a raid environment where aggro can be cheesed, so I'd actually tend to argue that Iksar is truly the min-max Velious raid tank race. Even if FSI is a factor, you're only getting ~3% more aggro / damage from being immune to stun. As noted by Sakuragi's warrior guide...

"a quick back-of-the-envelope estimate shows the value of stun immunity: mobs get their secondary attack every 8 seconds, bash instead instead of kick 75% of the time, hit 50% of the time, and stun 50% of their hits. So if the mob isn't hasted you'll be spending roughly 2 seconds out of 40 (5%) of your time stunned. Depending on how fast your weapons are, that's some 2-3% of your threat and damage"

Is such a negligible boost to aggro / damage really worth giving up the AC boost / higher AC softcap that Iksar get? I don't think so. The notion that Ogre is min-max is old thinking that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny IMHO.

Gustoo
12-07-2020, 01:36 PM
Ogre

If good demeaner

Barbarian

If you wanna be less good

Iksar

Barik
12-07-2020, 01:42 PM
1st. Ogre/Iksar
2nd. Troll
3rd. Dwarf
4th. Barbarian
5th. Halfling.

Are essentially the top five/six warrior races, obviously debatable on the order.

Snaggles
12-07-2020, 03:20 PM
Iksar stands tall with ogres as a min-max race by Velious. Frontal stun immunity loses most of its luster in a raid environment where aggro can be cheesed, so I'd actually tend to argue that Iksar is truly the min-max Velious raid tank race. Even if FSI is a factor, you're only getting ~3% more aggro / damage from being immune to stun. As noted by Sakuragi's warrior guide...

"a quick back-of-the-envelope estimate shows the value of stun immunity: mobs get their secondary attack every 8 seconds, bash instead instead of kick 75% of the time, hit 50% of the time, and stun 50% of their hits. So if the mob isn't hasted you'll be spending roughly 2 seconds out of 40 (5%) of your time stunned. Depending on how fast your weapons are, that's some 2-3% of your threat and damage"

Is such a negligible boost to aggro / damage really worth giving up the AC boost / higher AC softcap that Iksar get? I don't think so. The notion that Ogre is min-max is old thinking that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny IMHO.

The error of that is that if the bash timer is 8 seconds slowed with max level Turgurs (75% slow) it's one attempt every 32 seconds. What is the max iksar AC bonus at level 60? I have heard it's negligable, 30-40 points? For a warrior in ToV armor buffed that's anywhere from like 1200-1400 AC? Let's say the largest spread at 40 ac vs 1200 ac, it's a 3% bump over non-Iksars. Maybe noticable in a kunark seb king group but not tanking Vyemm via discipline.

I can buy the slight delay in white damage and melee aggro but if the attack button is depressed in theory the weapon proc rate is still being accounted for. Just as a slowed player finds their proc rate per swing increases (while still the same per minute). As weapon procs are a huge part of the warrior aggro dynamic (and clickies) I don't believe personally it's even as big of a deal. If you are an active sk puller avoiding bash interrupt of FD can make a difference, as in theory with a shaman if you are facetanking dragons for 15 mins and RNG deals you a very cold hand of luck....warriors are the least impacted by any class an ogre can pick.

Lastly (I promise!) while ranking warriors is expected (people love to justify) it's not practical. With a modicum of effort and very casual raiding your stam will be capped at 60. If you are not raiding with Chardok 2.0 items it's very likely it still will be at a loss of AC. While we all have our visual and racial perk preferences this is a situation where no serious guild at any serious level will favor a ogre over a gnome or halfling unless it's a weird encounter like Tunare that involves a wall of fat and some resistance to field goal punts from the lady.

Naethyn
12-07-2020, 03:24 PM
The best thing the Iksar warrior has going for them is the tall race with slim waist. This makes them ideal for tanking Tunare, because of her knockback. It is very easy to stand behind the Iksar main tank for this event and prevent them from flying back. It’s near impossible to do with ogres, trolls, who are better at forming the wall/blocker for that Iksar main tank.

Tunabros
12-07-2020, 04:26 PM
The best thing the Iksar warrior has going for them is the tall race with slim waist. This makes them ideal for tanking Tunare, because of her knockback. It is very easy to stand behind the Iksar main tank for this event and prevent them from flying back. It’s near impossible to do with ogres, trolls, who are better at forming the wall/blocker for that Iksar main tank.

very interesting! but I don't think I'll ever kill Tunare again. I only seen/killed her once

which was very fun and exciting!

but I am playing on green atm

what warrior gear would they be able to use? doesn't seem to be a lot of options out

there

I might go iksar shadowknight now I think about it!

kjs86z
12-07-2020, 05:05 PM
i regret not making my warrior a halfling

Gustoo
12-07-2020, 08:13 PM
Is that for style KJS?

OR EXP bonus/

Keebz
12-07-2020, 09:34 PM
i regret not making my warrior a halfling

My halfling warrior on blue is a blast, probably more fun than my troll warrior, though bash is awesome below 55.

Hide and sneak are choice on a class with literally no abilities. My only gripe is I couldn't worship bristlebane.

Gustoo
12-08-2020, 02:25 PM
Halfling warrior can't worship bristle? Shame.

kjs86z
12-08-2020, 02:39 PM
Is that for style KJS?

OR EXP bonus/

style is the only thing that matters anymore

Tunabros
12-08-2020, 03:13 PM
I think human warrior has best fashion quest for velious plate

thinking of re-rolling to human now I think about it

most of my toons are human so might as well continue the tradition

Danth
12-08-2020, 03:37 PM
had all points in stamina but I reasonably twinked

Not enough, it would seem, in light of this:

I got to say I wasn't entirely happy with the results. First, the low strength was kinda jacked

Consider the above a trial run: Now you have a better idea of what you want out of your starting attributes. Your apparently shelved characters seemingly demonstrate what I mean when I say endgame-focused statistics provide no benefit if the character gets shelved prematurely.

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Humans serves decently enough but their "fashion" is marred somewhat by the bucket-head helm they usually have to wear for much of their existence. The Velious custom helm makes up for it, provided you make it that far. If you pick human I advise obtaining some sort of worn vision item, like a Glowing Stone Band. You said you play a lot of human characters so you should well know what I mean.

The look of the armor on Naethyn's warrior can be achieved with some specific good-quality droppable items or middle tier nodrop stuff like Plane of Growth armor. My Shadow knight looks very similar. You don't have to be at the bleeding edge to achieve that sort of appearance if that's what you want.

Danth

Master Roshi
12-08-2020, 05:20 PM
don't halfings eat food faster too

Jimjam
12-08-2020, 05:41 PM
don't halfings eat food faster too

Spoken like a player that doesn’t know about second breakfast.

The trick is all the times you die due to having 100 stamina less than an ogre you restock on muffins while waiting for rez.

Nagoya
12-08-2020, 06:13 PM
don't halfings eat food faster too

on EQ Live in actual 1999, yes.
on Project1999, no.
Every food is the same and everyone is eating their muffins and milk at the same speed.
i hate it :(

Jimjam
12-08-2020, 08:22 PM
on EQ Live in actual 1999, yes.
on Project1999, no.
Every food is the same and everyone is eating their muffins and milk at the same speed.
i hate it :(

Just gotta spam that right click!

Stonewallx39
12-08-2020, 08:50 PM
Every food is the same and everyone is eating their muffins and milk at the same speed.
i hate it :(

Are you sure about the latter bro-heim? I agree all food is consumed at the same rate but. Never heard the racial consumption rates weren’t in game.

Nagoya
12-09-2020, 02:36 AM
hmm.... you're making me doubt now. i thought for sure it was on the wiki but no.
damn. my two highest toons are a halfling and a troll, and it feels like it is the same timer as my other toons, but you are right, i haven't actually tested it. very sorry about that! if someone can confirm please u_u or i'll go test myself as a redemption heh.

(i just did what i told baler like a week ago i hated him doing, saying something with confidence without being 100% sure, my forum career is finished! oops)

ScruffMacBuff
12-18-2020, 06:09 PM
Didn't read the thread.

Human is always the answer.

Zipity
12-19-2020, 12:34 PM
The thing with iksar is the AC bonus slides your caps, it would be equivalent to having a 35AC shield in your ammo slot.
1)Ogre/iksar
2)Troll/Halfling
3) whatever you think looks awesome if you don’t like the 4 up here.

Snaggles
12-19-2020, 12:55 PM
Well, except a 35ac shield calculates way higher due to defense skill. Nitpicking your point but it still stands :). 35 free post-cap AC is nice if you’re already loving Team Iksar for other reasons.

Shortstacktwo
12-27-2020, 04:13 PM
I know I'm in the minority, but I really love the way wood elf female velious plate armor looks.

Not a wild step-up from DE/WE but humans make a pretty decent warrior race as well. I cannot imagine a more mundane choice but they do look pretty cool and have ok stats.

Snaggles
12-27-2020, 06:18 PM
I know I'm in the minority, but I really love the way wood elf female velious plate armor looks.

Not a wild step-up from DE/WE but humans make a pretty decent warrior race as well. I cannot imagine a more mundane choice but they do look pretty cool and have ok stats.

In general this is a “roll what you want” game. Frankly I’d rather see a woodelf warrior than an ogre at this point because variety is the spice of life and it’s a 20 year elf sim so the the tropes are getting very tired.

Worst case your CH chain fails it’s not because of 300 hit points (stam capping is soo hard :rolleyes:) it’s because someone can’t count.

Arvan
12-27-2020, 06:22 PM
iksar sucks you got no faction and you can't use some of the best warrior items Cobalt Greaves and Cobalt Bracer

make the best race barbarian

Edit: Also can't wear any plate armor outside of endgame plates

Noselacri
12-28-2020, 12:39 AM
Yeah, iksar is for when you roll a warrior alt during Velious. Until Velious, it's the worst warrior race by a country mile. Your AC and stats will be so far behind the others