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eqravenprince
12-15-2020, 11:33 AM
Someone needs to educate me, I've been told Wizards are great on raids in classic due to 32k hp limit. However Naggy, Vox and Phinny are all belly caster. The moment I get close enough to hit with a nuke, I die due to aoe. How in the world can a wizard do any dps to a belly caster without dieing?
Llanos
12-15-2020, 12:10 PM
Someone needs to educate me, I've been told Wizards are great on raids in classic due to 32k hp limit. However Naggy, Vox and Phinny are all belly caster. The moment I get close enough to hit with a nuke, I die due to aoe. How in the world can a wizard do any dps to a belly caster without dieing?
Buy resist gear. They are short fights and you don't need much mana. As you can see dead dps is zero dps.
Scalem
12-15-2020, 12:16 PM
Just nuke from range, do 0 damage sit down and med. Not like anyone will notice or care with the other 200 people there killing the bosses in 10 seconds.
eqravenprince
12-15-2020, 12:23 PM
Just nuke from range, do 0 damage sit down and med. Not like anyone will notice or care with the other 200 people there killing the bosses in 10 seconds.
After 3 straight raids of getting 1 nuke off and dieing, that's all I do.
Gustoo
12-15-2020, 12:36 PM
Like others have said, I dunno whats going on but your guild should be able to provide some good advice. The main thing is that you need to wear resist gear so that the enemy spells don't decimate you.
100% full resist gear. When you go against VOX, SV cold gear stack it heavy and deep
When you go against nagafen??? Yes, SV fire gear.
Trakanon? SV poison gear.
Thats what all those seemingly stupid and useless stats are for. There is actually more than just the INT, mana, and HP stat in this game.
Good luck with your adventures!
Tunabros
12-15-2020, 12:45 PM
if you are going to raids where you are able to kill naggy, vox, etc
you should know you need good resist already
Nibblewitz
12-15-2020, 12:49 PM
Use your rune spells (diamondskin, manaskin, etc.)
Maximize resists and hp through gear and buffs.
For indoor dragons, you can nuke in between AoEs and be protected by line of sight.
Thulian
12-15-2020, 02:40 PM
Just nuke from range, do 0 damage sit down and med. Not like anyone will notice or care with the other 200 people there killing the bosses in 10 seconds.
This gave me a chuckle, you should have diamondskin or whatever and have a full suit of fire or cold resist depending which dragon you go kill, also keep in mind if the dragon is being pushed you need to start casting ahead of it so the nuke goes off when it is vertical. The belly isnt the belly its more like the chest
And honestly theres no challenge when everything is zerged down by 200 people in 5 seconds i have no idea why people dont try red where you have to small man dragons and content with risk of pvp 10x better
Scalem
12-15-2020, 04:16 PM
This gave me a chuckle, you should have diamondskin or whatever and have a full suit of fire or cold resist depending which dragon you go kill, also keep in mind if the dragon is being pushed you need to start casting ahead of it so the nuke goes off when it is vertical. The belly isnt the belly its more like the chest
And honestly theres no challenge when everything is zerged down by 200 people in 5 seconds i have no idea why people dont try red where you have to small man dragons and content with risk of pvp 10x better
Exactly, most classes can just show up and /afk at a raid and it won't change the outcome with the numbers that show up. The biggest challenge is the race and even then there isn't much competition with how often ST wins them. If this dude actually wants to be useful at raids he should practice racing. Wizards get one of the best FTE clickies for races.
Gustoo
12-15-2020, 04:54 PM
When are the earthquakes / simulated repops going to start happening?
Thulian
12-15-2020, 05:20 PM
Never, they are not classic
Gustoo
12-15-2020, 05:31 PM
Patches are classic but don't happen here cuz it isn't live. So resetting the server randomly is the only classic thing to do. Servers went down all the time for various reasons, and therefore were reset. Staff planned on simulated resets randomly to keep the server classic and keep mobs from being locked on guild timers but im not totally sure what happened with that plan. Its a clear solution.
Fammaden
12-15-2020, 08:36 PM
Quakes should be the only form of raid mob respawn.
cd288
12-15-2020, 09:13 PM
This gave me a chuckle, you should have diamondskin or whatever and have a full suit of fire or cold resist depending which dragon you go kill, also keep in mind if the dragon is being pushed you need to start casting ahead of it so the nuke goes off when it is vertical. The belly isnt the belly its more like the chest
And honestly theres no challenge when everything is zerged down by 200 people in 5 seconds i have no idea why people dont try red where you have to small man dragons and content with risk of pvp 10x better
People not acknowledging red being dead are as foolish as Trump not acknowledging he's lost the election
turbosilk
12-15-2020, 09:41 PM
Someone needs to educate me, I've been told Wizards are great on raids in classic due to 32k hp limit. However Naggy, Vox and Phinny are all belly caster. The moment I get close enough to hit with a nuke, I die due to aoe. How in the world can a wizard do any dps to a belly caster without dieing?
I have resist gear and have gotten solo exp kill on Vox. No one can touch wizard dps on boss fights as long as you get to keep landing nukes. (This changes once Velious bosses are out with tons more hp).
getsome
12-15-2020, 10:37 PM
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:07 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:15 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:23 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 148 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 170 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:40 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 370 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 195 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] You are stunned!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 155 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] You have slain Trakanon!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:49 2014] You gain party experience!!
Thulian
12-16-2020, 10:23 AM
You feel a tugging at your soul, your in our world now !
LOADING PLEASE WAIT
eqravenprince
12-16-2020, 10:46 AM
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:07 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:15 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:23 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 148 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 170 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:40 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 370 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 195 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] You are stunned!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 155 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] You have slain Trakanon!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:49 2014] You gain party experience!!
Surprised you didn't die when he did over 1500 damage in seconds, how much HP do you have?
magnetaress
12-16-2020, 12:21 PM
wizards get the best series of resistance buffs idk why u fail so hard. literally +50 from spells and +50 from gear, gg, u will have room left over for +INT/mana gear
getsome
12-16-2020, 03:24 PM
Surprised you didn't die when he did over 1500 damage in seconds, how much HP do you have?
Unless a dragon feared. I always maxed hp. Double runed and probable clicked wort pots to always keep above 80% health so the aoe would not one shot me. Gear wise the weezard was an alt and had epic and bis classic/kunark gear available outside VP (no shissar gauntlets either)
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:07 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:15 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:23 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 148 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 170 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:40 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 370 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 195 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] You are stunned!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 155 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] You have slain Trakanon!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:49 2014] You gain party experience!!
teachin y'all how2weezard
BiG SiP
12-21-2020, 05:58 PM
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:07 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:15 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:23 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:31 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 148 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:33 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 345 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:38 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 620 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:39 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 170 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:40 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 370 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon hits YOU for 195 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] You are stunned!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:41 2014] Trakanon bashes YOU for 155 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] Trakanon was hit by non-melee for 825 points of damage.
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:48 2014] You have slain Trakanon!
[Fri Feb 21 18:22:49 2014] You gain party experience!!
https://i.imgur.com/jBGzRGE.gif
Lostfaction
12-21-2020, 06:51 PM
run up do one cast and immediately blow a full wand of conflag/ice. its a lot of dps even if you pull agro and die or dont have resist gear to survive long enough from aoe's. Otherwise you are one of if not the best kiting class in the game for adds / lair trash.
Zipity
12-21-2020, 08:02 PM
Wizards kiting lair trash is such a repugnant waste of DPS.
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