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Mleh
01-09-2024, 12:44 AM
Maybe a different angle to view this from blue GM perspective?

In classic/kunark/velious, in PvP the bow for a war/sk was generally a minimal damage harassment to keep damage on someone running away from you with high MR and SoW (aka every PvPer losing a fight)

If this bug was on live it would have been fixed in a week as generally any delay-related bug was. (to include /qing with Weighted Axe when linkdeads acted as NPCs)

On P99 Red, it's a totally non-classic experience with every war/sk running around like a ranger with trueshot disc killing other melees in 30 seconds with ranged attacks because it's a blatantly overpowered function of being able to keep running and shooting with a crazy high hit rate and 100+ damage every 1.5s.

All I can figure is GMs don't care that it's broken and think it's part of the game and we should deal with it. Melees using bows in close quarters instead of their Vulak/Sleeper/Epic weapons. Gee, I wonder if there is a game breaking bug?

One last PvP thought after playing vidya games for 25 years: Anytime everyone is doing something to gain an advantage and it wasn't explicitly intended that way, it generally means the game has an exploit/imbalance that needs to be addressed to keep players playing the game.

Awsten_Tx
01-09-2024, 05:38 PM
I just double checked Earthshaker and Weighted Axe threads on Alla. Niether of them mentions anything about primary bonus to archery.

This continued bug is a real disappointment to archery damage. Bows should have their own bonus and likewise ranger bonuses should affect those bonuses.

Guise
01-22-2024, 03:07 PM
bump

ylarik24
01-22-2024, 11:07 PM
Bump

Guise
01-24-2024, 02:12 PM
bump

Imago
01-25-2024, 02:06 AM
Bump

Elemtal06
02-11-2024, 02:24 PM
Bump

frictator
02-27-2024, 11:12 AM
Bump

frames
04-03-2024, 11:55 PM
bump?

Tune
05-02-2024, 04:30 PM
server dead again can take your time now

Imago
06-16-2024, 08:48 PM
Bump

Tune
06-21-2024, 07:01 PM
the evidence on this thread is remarkable.

can we get an update? any plans to fix or should we just move on

keeping it in limbo at this point is just insane

Awsten_Tx
07-24-2024, 11:37 AM
Although this post is out of Era, it is still indicative of bows having their own bonus, as well as Ranger Stationary and Trueshot AFFECTING that bonus.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17778#m106701602090288

"Number 3: The trueshot discapline grants higher crits for bows with higher delays. To test the truth of this, get 2 bows with the same damage and different delays. Trueshot with both of them enough and you will come to see that the one with the higher delay crits harder, despite having equal damage. Therefore, a stonewood, for instance, probably out performes a featherwood during trueshot."

I still maintain, and will continue to maintain, the P99 mainhand bonus applying to archery is a gross error in the combat mechanics of the server. It is an artificial nerf to rangers as well as simultaneous buff to large races, namely large race warriors. Its a broken mechanic that needs fixed.

Infectious
07-29-2024, 01:09 PM
Although this post is out of Era, it is still indicative of bows having their own bonus, as well as Ranger Stationary and Trueshot AFFECTING that bonus.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17778#m106701602090288

"Number 3: The trueshot discapline grants higher crits for bows with higher delays. To test the truth of this, get 2 bows with the same damage and different delays. Trueshot with both of them enough and you will come to see that the one with the higher delay crits harder, despite having equal damage. Therefore, a stonewood, for instance, probably out performes a featherwood during trueshot."

I still maintain, and will continue to maintain, the P99 mainhand bonus applying to archery is a gross error in the combat mechanics of the server. It is an artificial nerf to rangers as well as simultaneous buff to large races, namely large race warriors. Its a broken mechanic that needs fixed.

Out of era information... What you remember as evidence... Please find information that is relevant to our time line.

Awsten_Tx
08-03-2024, 10:22 AM
Out of era information... What you remember as evidence... Please find information that is relevant to our time line.

The in era evidence has been posted. Go read it. Thanks for participating though.