View Full Version : Can we restore Splitpaw scroll XP now that the one nerd turned in his 5000 scrolls?
rewinder47
12-29-2020, 05:38 PM
It's not worth running to Qeynos for 50% of the exp it used to be, the max level achievements have already been given out, and no one else has the time to stockpile a billion scrolls.
Castle2.0
12-29-2020, 05:42 PM
Devs answered this already and it wasn't because of one epic nerd from 2020: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373833
The change was based on a comment from Everlore circa 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20030228224515/http://everlore.com/quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=184420
Gustoo
12-29-2020, 05:49 PM
The comment "1/3 a bub I THINK" did it? dang. I guess it's better than nothing. I wish there was a way to fully restore the good old websites I loved looking through everlore eqlizer eqcastersrealm rangersglade and all the other ones I cna't remember.
rewinder47
12-29-2020, 05:52 PM
Devs answered this already and it wasn't because of one epic nerd from 2020: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373833
The change was based on a comment from Everlore circa 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20030228224515/http://everlore.com/quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=184420
Sounds like that was based on turning in all 4 at once. Isn't it supposed to be better exp to turn them in separately?
Also, couldn't this be verified on one of the official TLP servers?
cd288
12-29-2020, 07:05 PM
The comment "1/3 a bub I THINK" did it? dang. I guess it's better than nothing. I wish there was a way to fully restore the good old websites I loved looking through everlore eqlizer eqcastersrealm rangersglade and all the other ones I cna't remember.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they just wanted to find some excuse to turn the exp down because of Castle. And that’s what they found
jadier
12-29-2020, 07:10 PM
Wouldn’t be surprised if they just wanted to find some excuse to turn the exp down because of Castle. And that’s what they found
As obnoxious as Castle is, I’m betting they just sorta ballparked quest xp originally, then never really had a strong reason to go back and look at it. As the p99 meta morphed into “scrolls are good xp” they maybe thought about it but it took a massive abuse of the system for them to get around to digging up any reference to an (obscure on live) quest and then fix it.
So I doubt they did this out of spite, but rather this just highlighted a minor balance problem in a glaring way.
Swish
12-29-2020, 07:36 PM
The things people will do for shortcuts.
Remember Chardok AOE and people not letting adventurers do any hunting in there because it hurt their quickfire XP/plat grab machine?
Enjoy the journey.
Castle2.0
12-29-2020, 07:38 PM
They guessed original exp for quest (~250-275k raw exp.) It's not that the single comment (116,800 exp) is super convincing. It's that it's all we have from the era.
4 scrolls gets you one exp event and a lame item. Or you can turn in scrolls individually each for an exp event.
As far as we know, turning in 4 scrolls or 1 scroll gave the same amount of exp.
Who knows for sure?
Disease
12-30-2020, 12:29 AM
Devs answered this already and it wasn't because of one epic nerd from 2020: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=373833
The change was based on a comment from Everlore circa 2000: https://web.archive.org/web/20030228224515/http://everlore.com/quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=184420
Looks like concrete evidence to me.
Dolalin
12-30-2020, 06:07 AM
As obnoxious as Castle is, I’m betting they just sorta ballparked quest xp originally, then never really had a strong reason to go back and look at it. As the p99 meta morphed into “scrolls are good xp” they maybe thought about it but it took a massive abuse of the system for them to get around to digging up any reference to an (obscure on live) quest and then fix it.
So I doubt they did this out of spite, but rather this just highlighted a minor balance problem in a glaring way.
Pretty much this I'd imagine.
Thulian
12-30-2020, 10:17 AM
why not nerf it so you can only do the quest once?
BlackBellamy
12-30-2020, 04:31 PM
I didn't need spreadsheets and documentations or network logs or anything to know that xp was just wrong.
I know that because I played the game in 2000. I was there at the gnolls. It was just a regular camp. There were not lists for the middle spire, there were not constant arguments about who has what spawn, there were not constant auctions for the scrolls at ridiculous prices. Yes there was xp to be made but it wasn't like that.
In the absence of hard numbers, player action is just fine.
I went to SK on Green and I was literally shocked at the xp from the scrolls. People like vultures, waiting for that gnoll to open. Don't waste that scroll omg omg! I knew right away this was not classic. Not even close. I don't know if they overnerfed the xp and don't care, but what it was wasn't what it was back then.
Old_PVP
12-31-2020, 03:11 PM
Enjoy the journey.
douglas1999
12-31-2020, 03:40 PM
Yeah I'm kinda glad they nerfed the xp, it was kind of ludicrous, especially for druids and wizzies who could bind at the turn-in npc and quickly port back to north karana
yobert
12-31-2020, 04:09 PM
The things people will do for shortcuts.
Remember Chardok AOE and people not letting adventurers do any hunting in there because it hurt their quickfire XP/plat grab machine?
Enjoy the journey.
I have not played for a while. Cant you do aoe exp i chardok now?
cd288
12-31-2020, 06:26 PM
I didn't need spreadsheets and documentations or network logs or anything to know that xp was just wrong.
I know that because I played the game in 2000. I was there at the gnolls. It was just a regular camp. There were not lists for the middle spire, there were not constant arguments about who has what spawn, there were not constant auctions for the scrolls at ridiculous prices. Yes there was xp to be made but it wasn't like that.
In the absence of hard numbers, player action is just fine.
I went to SK on Green and I was literally shocked at the xp from the scrolls. People like vultures, waiting for that gnoll to open. Don't waste that scroll omg omg! I knew right away this was not classic. Not even close. I don't know if they overnerfed the xp and don't care, but what it was wasn't what it was back then.
To be fair, idk that memory is always the best source for stuff like this. I mean, I remember people in 2000 who were learning about how good CB belt exp was for the first time. Stuff simply wasn’t known by every single person on the server and even the online resources could be hit or miss (or just not checked by many people).
Ahahahahaa
Man the amount of hate this super nerd gets for trying to show off is epic
I AM THE FIRST LEVEL FIFTAY IN EVARQUEST
BOW TO ME
*Whole server brings the playa hate club*
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