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darkreap
02-22-2021, 08:03 AM
I'm looking to solo mostly but with the ZEM changes, I guess I'm looking for leveling recommendations and possible inexpensive weapon exchanges. I was planning on focusing on undead since they won't run and to benefit from the undead lines of pally spells and Ghoulbane. I was thinking Unrest from 20-25 or so before going to MM till 35. Prolly return to unrest basement until 40. Prolly lower guk after that. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Below is my setup so I won't have to list it all.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Dolin
SlankyLanky
02-22-2021, 08:42 AM
iirc mistmoore doesnt actually have any undead in it. yer gear is well above average so you shouldnt have any trouble until at least 40. its totally possible for you to grind it out on a paladin, i soloed my paladin almost entirely until 57 with no fungi, its slow as hell, but i rarely died. get a dw helm at 45 and a chest if you can afford it.
Penish
02-22-2021, 10:20 AM
Sounds painful, don't. Good luck!
Snaggles
02-22-2021, 11:40 AM
I soloed 99% of my xp to 60. It’s a slog but what else to do with a time locked server?
Use a 18/19 delay 1h to 20 if possible. If not a PWC and switch to the baton of faith. Get a Reaver ASAP and hunt guards. Most of them are warrior mobs and thus easy to outlast.
The undead pally path is a carry-over from when the Ghoulbane was actually good. These days on blue the procs barely keep up with the poor ratio. Throw in the fact most undead spots are a long ways from a vendor to sell fine steel at and my own perpetual poverty and it’s just never been tempting.
Duckwalk
02-22-2021, 03:37 PM
With Velious armor/weapons, some haste and fungi Paladin is easily one of the most fun and fastest leveling paths to about 50. Lull is far more effective than FD splitting most of the time and if it goes wrong you just root camp. Velious two handers give you respectable dps and at 45+ a free clicky heal means to basically have zero downtime. Before than Fungi plus supplemental paladin heals are more than adequate.
I solod almost entirely to 50 in just a couple of super casual weeks. I think it was like Unrest 12-18, Mistmoore 18-24, HHK goblins 24-35, Unrest basement 35- 40, CoM 40-48, the Hole 48-52. Was easily doing a level an hour if not faster all the way up to 50.
After about 52 at the Hole ent, youre going to have a bad time trying to continue soloing. Mobs just hit to hard and have too many hitpoints altough its still totally doable with free heals and roots.
Reaver is awesome but I ran into problems with some old world content and undead so I also kept a Exquisite Broadsword as a backup. Enjoy the ride, between the ability to split camps, control adds, and essentially never stop killing, Paladin is a really fun and fast path to 50.
darkreap
02-22-2021, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the input. Guess I'll start looking for a Reaver. That was the original plan but got tired of looking in EC and ran low on funds.
Shodo
02-22-2021, 06:21 PM
For 50+ soloing, as others said it will slow down quite a bit. I ended up changing strategy at this point: instead of slow and steady with helmet heals, I spammed undead nukes in Lguk (on wizard mobs as much as possible), with lots of medding in between. Downside is it's a bit slower, though not by that much, upside is you can watch netflix or read etc. Makes the grind more bearable. Might be better spots for that now with the ZEM changes.
Crede
02-22-2021, 08:25 PM
You can get to 50 in like 2 weeks with your gear and riding the zem train, just need a reaver as others have stated. 20-30 runneye, 30-38 upper guk/ct gators(i prefer upper guk since gators often camped), 38-45 kedge ent/2nd floor, 45-51 bloodgills in loio. I've done this many times with alts.
Pallies really aren't that good at killing undead(only halfway decent with a dawncaller proc ToV weapon), this might have been true in classic because ghoulbane ratio was ok with a proc since weapon ratios were so bad then, but in velious ghoulbane is absolute trash & undead nukes are a waste of mana. Focus on the above path, reaver with 2h dmg bonus absolutely wrecks, can hit for like 200 at lvl 30 with enough str.
Gluck
Bardp1999
02-22-2021, 09:52 PM
you can solo any melee to about 45 with minimal issues with a Fungi - after that youre going to need a partner
ScottBerta
02-23-2021, 02:24 AM
Crystal Caverns is an under appreciated zone 35-45ish. Has a bank, and the lower lvls are great exp. terror, spider and geo tunnels.
12-20 Upper Guk
Only kill crocs, spiders and troll prisoners
Remain non KOS to frogs and you'll be good to go
Pro tip, just group with people
darkreap
02-23-2021, 08:08 PM
Finally got the Reaver! Thanks for all the suggestions.
Snaggles
02-24-2021, 01:03 AM
Nice! It’s occasionally annoying in groups but great for solo and raiding. Cheapest self PL you can buy for sure.
I actually got a ton of mileage out of the Sword of Morning (and later Sword of Blessings) while tanking in groups into the high 50’s. You have a nice kit for any situation.
Yinein
02-24-2021, 09:55 AM
I found trios great for pally leveling.
mattydef
02-25-2021, 03:41 AM
With that gear you don’t have to restrict yourself to undead. Do yourself a favor and go to sol A. Kill goblins until about 35 then switch to gnomes until 43 or 44. You can go from 20-43 in a solid week of moderate playtime.
darkreap
02-25-2021, 08:58 PM
With that gear you don’t have to restrict yourself to undead. Do yourself a favor and go to sol A. Kill goblins until about 35 then switch to gnomes until 43 or 44. You can go from 20-43 in a solid week of moderate playtime.
Not a bad idea. I had completely forgotten about this zone. Don't think I'll hunt gnomes but I will probably move out that way around 24 or so. Thanks for the suggestion.
Barlu
02-28-2021, 10:45 PM
For what it is worth I wouldn’t let a lot of these posts discourage Pally Solo at 45+. With a Deepwater BP it really isn’t that bad at all. I’m 59 now and done it almost exclusively solo. 59 is probably almost as fast as leveling my enchanter or monk solo at the same level. I do have pretty good gear but with the BP that’s what is most important.. You should pretty much never die once you get the long lasting root and then you can solo in dungeons and it’s a lot of fun. I say keep up with it and good luck!
Snaggles
03-01-2021, 02:27 PM
Even with a plebian DW helm you can solo quite well. I was in mixed DW armor with a Reaver then Narandi; spike seahorse towards 60 but never felt out-gunned with the general stuff. Even the helm on hard to root mobs will get you a couple clicks/hundred hp on average for 30 mana. A lucky Enstill will get you like 10 clicks for 60 mana.
One thing I'd suggest is some shaman DS pots. Not for leveling speed but to help burn down those mobs that surprise you. A 2 pull or a named. I expect it would almost double a paladin's dps when needed.
One thing I'd suggest is some shaman DS pots. Not for leveling speed but to help burn down those mobs that surprise you. A 2 pull or a named. I expect it would almost double a paladin's dps when needed.
The Kilva's Skin of Flame DS pots are golden. My paladin on blue used them whenever I XP'd solo starting around L52 and all the way to 60, the expense shouldn't be a killer for a char who is over L50. Note that I was levelling 3+ years ago, before they boosted either 2h damage or knight damage, so the DS pots more than doubled my damage output (had epic & good haste, but so very many misses in melee).
Sweeper41
04-10-2021, 01:28 AM
I have soloed my paladin over the years and I'm now 55. I had nothing to start with when I began. No access to a fungi or Reaver (still dont have ether). Don't let anyone tell you you cant or you should just group. It can and has been done just not as fast as other classes. Don't worry about undead. Wasting your whole mana bar casting undead nukes to kill one mod is silly. There plenty of places you can solo at but there going to tricky. My advice is to look through other classes solo guides. I found a few good spots I never would have tried.
Snaggles
04-10-2021, 12:02 PM
Yea undead is a fools journey, imho. They tend to be casters and deeper into places where a crit lull fail means a harrowing run to the zone.
I prefer guards. Splitting 2-3 spawns if not solo statics. Kill stuff that drops FS and get a Reaver then a Narandi at 55. Kill speed is the paladins worst foe and those really help.
A 150 CHA pally can pull efficiently in all but the worst spots. That’s a jester crown and crude stein plus a few small pieces. With a sham or ench cha buff you are golden. Pulling kael bank or lower pits in velks just assume things will likely go wrong. At least they are all on the paladin instead of the cleric or enchanter. I’d still go Stamina if I could do it again, the last 100 hps are often a pain to get and nobody asks what tank’s unbuffed Charisma is...ever.
Burn24
04-19-2021, 12:46 PM
I am in the same boat, and so figure here is a good place to ask.. Where are some good places to solo for a 37 Paladin, that might have some grouping chance too?
I am trying to get rolling again on p99 blue, I have a 37(maybe 38...) Pal w/ some decent gear, FBSS, but not fungi. I was last soloing dirvishes outside ToFS but that was boring and far from.. everyone felt like. I hitched a ride back to Antonica thinking I'd scope out guk to see if I could solo anything worthwhile there and maybe have grouping chances.
I see the suggestion about sola gnomes, if I could find solo pulls I suppose that could work, I'e never xp'd on the gnomes but I've spent a lot of time there on all my other characters. It is also close to solb perhaps for grouping potential.
I see the crystal caverns suggestion, and that sounds solid, but I'm loathe to go back to what seems like empty velious for having just left.
Any other suggestions?
Snaggles
04-19-2021, 01:18 PM
I am in the same boat, and so figure here is a good place to ask.. Where are some good places to solo for a 37 Paladin, that might have some grouping chance too?
I am trying to get rolling again on p99 blue, I have a 37(maybe 38...) Pal w/ some decent gear, FBSS, but not fungi. I was last soloing dirvishes outside ToFS but that was boring and far from.. everyone felt like. I hitched a ride back to Antonica thinking I'd scope out guk to see if I could solo anything worthwhile there and maybe have grouping chances.
I see the suggestion about sola gnomes, if I could find solo pulls I suppose that could work, I'e never xp'd on the gnomes but I've spent a lot of time there on all my other characters. It is also close to solb perhaps for grouping potential.
I see the crystal caverns suggestion, and that sounds solid, but I'm loathe to go back to what seems like empty velious for having just left.
Any other suggestions?
Bind in HK. Move a low level over who wont be kos (halfling lvl 1 if you can get past the orcs in Highpass). Will be nice to consent that char to drag yourself.
Kill guards on floor 3 and 4. Good exp even when they start to green, 5-10p a kill and you can sell on floor 1. From 37 to 45 when that starts to tire out you will have thousands of plat.
Sweeper41
04-19-2021, 01:49 PM
Bind in HK. Move a low level over who wont be kos (halfling lvl 1 if you can get past the orcs in Highpass). Will be nice to consent that char to drag yourself.
Kill guards on floor 3 and 4. Good exp even when they start to green, 5-10p a kill and you can sell on floor 1. From 37 to 45 when that starts to tire out you will have thousands of plat.
Note that this will kill your faction with the paladins in Fp. I wouldn't recommend it. But if you don't care about faction go ahead. I would tell you to go to BB and kill crazy goblins neer Kaladin till 41. Then head to Ogguk and kill guards till your 52. If you can stand it that is.
Burn24
04-19-2021, 03:09 PM
Hmm, I don't think I want to risk my FP Pal faction hits, especially since theoretically the epic is attainable. What are 'crazy goblins' ? I have never heard of them, and don't see them on the wiki. Do they exist on p99?
Snaggles
04-20-2021, 12:07 AM
Note that this will kill your faction with the paladins in Fp. I wouldn't recommend it. But if you don't care about faction go ahead. I would tell you to go to BB and kill crazy goblins neer Kaladin till 41. Then head to Ogguk and kill guards till your 52. If you can stand it that is.
Nope it won’t. Don’t kill Mistress Anna or Isabella Cellus and no knights of truth or priests of marr. Don’t kill bards either if you don’t want to fix that in Mistmoore. This will likely take you to dubious with some vendors (hard to track, I’ve killed them both so much) so no vendoring in north besides the bard guilds and pally/cleric ones.
I killed Isabella and Mistress Anna and was kos to everything. Each lucan tag is like 1k faction (cleric and pally) so that’s pretty easy to repair. I think I finished off bringing mine back with some helm turnins. I have the Fiery Defender and this was the easiest part of a fairly easy quest.
http://wiki.project1999.com/A_noble
http://wiki.project1999.com/Guard_Chopin
Just examples of the faction hits you get.
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