the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Reiwa]

As a Georgia resident and a leftist, I support him running with MTG one hundred percent

Couln't find a better, dumber, meaner version of Sarah Palin if you built one in a lab

Alaska polls are especially fake. Peltola will be gone in January.

[Kaveh]

I think she's chained to the Senate to keep procedural fuck-fuck games in check.

Thanks for the update. Didn’t know if there needed to be an amber alert (silver??? Not sure what it is for her age bracket)

[Encroaching Death]

https://i.postimg.cc/W3c0VcTx/berebebe.png

[Kaveh]

Hahaha ^ that’s a joke I assume?

Obama and H.W. were for sure higher IQ and no dementia

[unsunghero]

Lol there’s no way this is a real story

“We live in a society. And nothing but these bars stopping me from making it happen”

“Now here’s my dick”

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DGMvkp7SE8U

[unsunghero]

^
He claimed the dick pic was an accident, his cat walked across his phone

Then he added but if it was going to be put on the news he wanted wide angle lens low lighting

[Reiwa]

Is it finally time to count out Touchdown Tom?

[Patrece]

If Pubs take the mid terms the WH will become a nursing home for the next 2 years

And hopefully halt the destruction of the country

These dumb bells look at the economy, price of food/gas and think "yup keep doing this"

:confused:

Are you stupid enough to think this rigged regime is helping middle class and lower?

:confused:

[Basanos]

Millions of Republicans are stupid enough to think the Republicans are helping the middle class and lower. Six more years of Diamond Joe! Then, President AOC! YAY!

[Basanos]

Oh, yeah, also: the middle class is a myth. Name a Republican policy that helps the working class. If you do come up with one, I will tell you how it does not.

[Encroaching Death]

Name a Republican policy that helps the working class.

Plenty of Conservative policies that help the working class, it's the politicians who are worthless.

[Homesteaded]

fVTjSnDBZiA

[Basanos]

Plenty of Conservative policies that help the working class, it's the politicians who are worthless.Not seeing a name here, please point out the policy so I can shit all over it

[Encroaching Death]

fVTjSnDBZiA

It's funny - Carter Page was working for the CIA, to spy on the Russians and they threw him under the bus and claimed he was working FOR the Russians - just to try to smear Trump.

Gotta love the government.

[Encroaching Death]

Not seeing a name here, please point out the policy so I can shit all over it

I could say "Feed the homeless" and you would say "But that enables drug-addicted layabouts!"

So nah, I'm not going to play your little game.

[Homesteaded]

The issue is that you have NPC's running around who still believe everything they were sold from 2016-2021 about Trump. Despite it being at best, a deeply flawed investigation that turned up nothing of value.

What is the biggest bombshell that they believe they have on Trump after all of this? Some perjury traps through excessive interrogations? Some campaign finance issues? I don't even know what the there there is now.

[unsunghero]

^
If I knew as a GOP politician that the FBI was going to be secretly breaking into my home and taking pictures of my shit based on fake warrants, I’d fill my home with pictures of Hunter Biden smoking crack in his underwear. But then I’d have to look at that shit all day…

[Basanos]

I could say "Feed the homeless" and you would say "But that enables drug-addicted layabouts!"

So nah, I'm not going to play your little game.You catastrophically misunderstand me.

Feeding the homeless is one of the good things about any administration, but that usually happens at a city, county, municipal, or NGO level.

I would never say feeding the homeless enables anything other than the hungry being fed. I am not a right-wing libertarian. Any program that feeds the homeless and is paid with tax dollars is money well spent, regardless of the duration.

There are obviously federal aid programs, but they predate Biden or Trump. I don't know who started what there. There are Republican state level food stamp programs, yeah, but my main complaint about those would be means testing and limited food selection.

[Encroaching Death]

The issue is that you have NPC's running around who still believe everything they were sold from 2016-2021 about Trump.

Leftists only read the headlines of articles and never follow up on stories.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can put its boots on."

It's a big reason Conservative and Independent have a very poor view towards news media.

Because the news knows it can lie and benefit in the short term, while its reputation suffers in the long term (but only suffering with people who have a memory)

It's the analog version of "click bait". Get eyes and attention now, but sacrifice your reputation as a truthful, fact-finding organization.

[Jibartik]

The issue is that you have NPC's running around who still believe everything they were sold from 2016-2021 about Trump. Despite it being at best, a deeply flawed investigation that turned up nothing of value.

What is the biggest bombshell that they believe they have on Trump after all of this? Some perjury traps through excessive interrogations? Some campaign finance issues? I don't even know what the there there is now.

They believe a more complex web of shadow people than the anunnaki is still controling him and the entire GOP and all the maga voters.

[Basanos]

I don't even know what the there there is now.We could fill hot air balloons with the things you don't know. You assumed there were no Muslim charities in existence, something that's proven with a single Google search you were never even curious enough to try.


Not a reliable source of any information unless I go looking for tips on "How to be a hypocrite". Then I will come straight to you, the subject matter expert on hypocrisy.

[Jibartik]

Im gonna quote this from now on whenever anyone says anything I disagree with.

The issue is that you have NPC's running around who still believe everything they were sold from 2016-2021 about Trump. Despite it being at best, a deeply flawed investigation that turned up nothing of value.

[Encroaching Death]

You catastrophically misunderstand me.

Feeding the homeless is one of the good things about any administration, but that usually happens at a city, county, municipal, or NGO level.

I would never say feeding the homeless enables anything other than the hungry being fed. I am not a right-wing libertarian. Any program that feeds the homeless and is paid with tax dollars is money well spent, regardless of the duration.

There are obviously federal aid programs, but they predate Biden or Trump. I don't know who started what there. There are Republican state level food stamp programs, yeah, but my main complaint about those would be means testing and limited food selection.

You're not understanding me.

No matter what I say, no matter how objectively good it is, you can find a way to criticize it.

"We don't eat children".

"Oh, you DON'T eat children?! So you let people starve to death instead??"

[Basanos]

They believe a more complex web of shadow people than the anunnaki is still controling him and the entire GOP and all the maga voters."They" believe, correctly, it's just greedy people man. It's literally that simple. And they're right.

No aliens, no angels, no secret organizations. Just greedy sleazebags who have senators and representatives in their pockets, through donations, personal favors, and maybe some occasional blackmail.

Don't project your mania onto others. You taint your special, wacky nature by doing so.

[Encroaching Death]

"They" believe, correctly, it's just greedy people man. It's literally that simple. And they're right.

No aliens, no angels, no secret organizations. Just greedy sleazebags who have senators and representatives in their pockets, through donations, personal favors, and maybe some occasional blackmail.

Don't project your mania onto others. You taint your special, wacky nature by doing so.

Have you read some of Twitter's theories?

There's a reason they're called 'BlueAnon'.

It's a mirror image of QAnon.

[Jibartik]

"They" believe, correctly, it's just greedy people man. It's literally that simple. And they're right.

No aliens, no angels, no secret organizations. Just greedy sleazebags who have senators and representatives in their pockets, through donations, personal favors, and maybe some occasional blackmail.

Don't project your mania onto others. You taint your special, wacky nature by doing so.

bullshit, non of your arguments matter because you support the greatest wealth transfer in history.

You say you're against rich people but you support the richest people first.

[Encroaching Death]

'How the Left Lost Its Mind'

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/liberal-fever-swamps/530736/

[Basanos]

You're not understanding me.

No matter what I say, no matter how objectively good it is, you can find a way to criticize it.

"We don't eat children".

"Oh, you DON'T eat children?! So you let people starve to death instead??"Fair enough, I am a left-wing attack dog. I openly admit my contempt for conservative "values" and I know every one of them is proven false by one or more of their other actions or policies. The hypocrisy is just so easy to spot, they don't even mask it.

[Jibartik]

you're a rich persons attack dog.

[Basanos]

bullshit, non of your arguments matter because you support the greatest wealth transfer in history.

You say you're against rich people but you support the richest people first.You're just mad at the two party system, now. Give me a better option than Joe or Donnie. What party can I support that has no rich people? Are there any?

It certainly isn't the Republican party. Their attachments to billionaires are no secret.

[Basanos]

Have you read some of Twitter's theories?

There's a reason they're called 'BlueAnon'.

It's a mirror image of QAnon.Yes, I essentially live on Twitter. I like some conspiracy theories, but I don't believe a lot of them. Guess that costs me points with Jib.

I do believe there are secret billionaire clubs and stuff, but I think they're all laughing their asses off at us as we go on about party politics. Like they aren't the puppet masters of both, and the judicial system.

What I don't know is how much they fight each other, what their motivations are, et cetera.

[Reiwa]

'How the Left Lost Its Mind'

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/liberal-fever-swamps/530736/

Is the tl;dr Reagan vs Mondale?

[Jibartik]

You're just mad at the two party system, now. Give me a better option than Joe or Donnie. What party can I support that has no rich people? Are there any?

It certainly isn't the Republican party. Their attachments to billionaires are no secret.

you will, never. EVER. get a better system by voting for the system.

The billionares run the left and the right.

But the left gives them even more power, because they do it with good intentions.

They use the right to do stuff that they can only do with bad intentions, so the decline of civilization is slower with them in charge.

You sold out man. You sold out.

[unsunghero]

Leftists only read the headlines of articles and never follow up on stories.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can put its boots on."

It's a big reason Conservative and Independent have a very poor view towards news media.

Because the news knows it can lie and benefit in the short term, while its reputation suffers in the long term (but only suffering with people who have a memory)

It's the analog version of "click bait". Get eyes and attention now, but sacrifice your reputation as a truthful, fact-finding organization.

Yea it’s been shown that a news correction misses something like 80% of the original viewers

So it’s better to simply lie in the original story then issue a correction later that no one will ever see

[Basanos]

you will, never. EVER. get a better system by voting for the system.

The billionares run the left and the right.

But the left gives them even more power, because they do it with good intentions.

They use the right to do stuff that they can only do with bad intentions, so the decline of civilization is slower with them in charge.

You sold out man. You sold out.The right wing gives the right wing money, I criticize it and many other things, and that means I sold out, somehow.

I'll never support a conservative, even for dog catcher. I will never buy the idea that conservatives slow the decline. You don't even have a reliable metric for decline.

If you're just gonna pretend I have done stuff to judge me accordingly, don't stop there.

[Encroaching Death]

Yea it’s been shown that a news correction misses something like 80% of the original viewers

So it’s better to simply lie in the original story then issue a correction later that no one will ever see

This is a fun little tool: http://newsdiffs.org/

And by 'fun', I mean soul crushingly depressing.

[Jibartik]

The left does this thing where they are like, "ohhh were so damn close we promise, well do all this stuff..! just hold on, just hold on soon! we will do it soon!"

then the right is like, "NOPE!"

And the left is like, "the right is so evil! they never let us do anything! Boo! We promise, if you donate twice as much this year, we WILL get that thing we said we'd get through passed, and we wont let the republicans RUIN it!"

Meanwhile the left transferred record amounts of money to the 1% EVERY FUCKING TIME

[Basanos]

Yea it’s been shown that a news correction misses something like 80% of the original viewers

So it’s better to simply lie in the original story then issue a correction later that no one will ever seeWhat's amazing to me is conservatives honestly seem to think one or more of these things:

Their news doesn't lie to them
If their news does lie, they will spot it
If their news does lie, it's justified because it serves conservative values

Anyways, that guy can gripe about leftists only reading headlines if he wants. The only people here who have refused to read articles I link are conservatives.

Yes, I know I usually refuse to watch conservative linked Youtubes. But I do read articles, voraciously.

[Basanos]

The left does this thing where they are like, "ohhh were so damn close we promise, well do all this stuff..! just hold on, just hold on soon! we will do it soon!"

then the right is like, "NOPE!"

And the left is like, "the right is so evil! they never let us do anything! Boo! We promise, if you donate twice as much this year, we WILL get that thing we said we'd get through passed, and we wont let the republicans RUIN it!"

Meanwhile the left transferred record amounts of money to the 1% EVERY FUCKING TIMESimple answer: that isn't the Left in the White House, it's the Right

And it always has been, since Jimmy Carter

[Encroaching Death]

Is the tl;dr Reagan vs Mondale?

See? Only reads the title.

[Jibartik]

Simple answer: that isn't the Left in the White House, it's the Right

And it always has been, since Jimmy Carter

ok so yeah, are we on the same side or not i cant tell.

[Basanos]

See? Only reads the title.Okay, misunderstanding me deliberately is one thing, but if you think Reiwa is a leftist you might just be flat-out politically illiterate.

If and when you can decode whatever obscure thing he is referring to in 90% of his posts, it's straight down the moderately conservative center of American politics

[Basanos]

ok so yeah, are we on the same side or not i cant tell.Neither of us are rich, this puts us on the same side regardless of our ideology

The differences are weaknesses they exploit

[Encroaching Death]

Okay, misunderstanding me deliberately is one thing, but if you think Reiwa is a leftist you might just be flat-out politically illiterate.

If and when you can decode whatever obscure thing he is referring to in 90% of his posts, it's straight down the moderately conservative center of American politics

He's a neo-lib at best.

He used to be far more leftist years ago.

[Reiwa]

See? Only reads the title.

Why would I read a wrong answer? Dems went Clintony after Reagan stomped them.

[unsunghero]

What's amazing to me is conservatives honestly seem to think one or more of these things:

Their news doesn't lie to them
If their news does lie, they will spot it
If their news does lie, it's justified because it serves conservative values

Anyways, that guy can gripe about leftists only reading headlines if he wants. The only people here who have refused to read articles I link are conservatives.

Yes, I know I usually refuse to watch conservative linked Youtubes. But I do read articles, voraciously.

Myself, George Washington, Jesus, and conservative news have never told a lie in their entire lives

[Reiwa]

He's a neo-lib at best.

He used to be far more leftist years ago.

Really your guys fault for repeatedly calling me a NL. :p

[Homesteaded]

Please share these equivalent lies that the right tells that is comparable to the past 5 years of Trump lies.

[Jibartik]

Neither of us are rich, this puts us on the same side regardless of our ideology

The differences are weaknesses they exploit

That's the thing is like, how long have people said that republicans are like, "I dont care about you, I care about myself"

while we have democrats saying, "the individual is not as valbule as the sum"

that second weakness has been used to do the absolute worst things in human history, as far back as human history goes.

The individual causes problems on a small scale, and that is taken advantage of by dirtbag politicians.

But the sum causes problems on a huge scale, and that is taken advantage of by dirtbag politicians.

So it's just worth considering that maybe them coal rolling duke boys are better for us than the educated Winklevoss twins.

[Basanos]

Please share these equivalent lies that the right tells that is comparable to the past 5 years of Trump lies.trickle down economics will help you

that war in the middle east is to defend your freedom

that universal healthcare program is too expensive

tax cuts on the rich will lower your tax liability

Not that the last five years of facts about Trump aren't lies, they're all true, nothing changes that. All of them. Incest pedophile in chief

[Reiwa]

Please share these equivalent lies that the right tells that is comparable to the past 5 years of Trump lies.

"Corporations are people, my friend."

[Encroaching Death]

Neither of us are rich, this puts us on the same side regardless of our ideology

Can you tell your friends on the Left to stop calling us "retarded, uneducated Rednecks" then?

Doesn't feel like they're being team players.

[Homesteaded]

trickle down economics will help you
As opposed to? Hardly a strategy that is only deployed by conservatives.

that war in the middle east is to defend your freedom
Energy independence = Freedom


that universal healthcare program is too expensive
It can be, and in it's current state isn't helping those it should.

tax cuts on the rich will lower your tax liability
If you think your taxes are ever going down, you are a fool.

Not that the last five years of facts about Trump aren't lies, they're all true, nothing changes that. All of them. Incest pedophile in chief

Right. You should have put some stats in Charisma and Strength, instead of autism.

[Encroaching Death]

Not that the last five years of facts about Trump aren't lies, they're all true, nothing changes that. All of them. Incest pedophile in chief

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/C9tVofsy4U5fuus1mOg-suecQT4=/0x105:2000x1230/976x549/media/img/mt/2017/07/pussyhat1/original.jpg

[Jibartik]

If you're on the side of the 3 thousand dollar dress that says tax the rich.

And not the shaman.

You're wrong.

You're just wrong.

[Reiwa]

Can you tell your friends on the Left to stop calling us "retarded, uneducated Rednecks" then?

Doesn't feel like they're being team players.

Right winger shockingly requests speech gestapo to silence the left.

[Reiwa]

If you're on the side of the 3 thousand dollar dress that says tax the rich.

And not the shaman.

You're wrong.

You're just wrong.

I forget if politicians can accept gifts or have to do what's called an "in kind donation" meaning they pay for it while making pretend faces.

[Encroaching Death]

Right winger shockingly requests speech gestapo to silence the left.

Oh, I'm just....deplatforming hateful hate speech ;)

[Jibartik]

I forget if politicians can accept gifts or have to do what's called an "in kind donation" meaning they pay for it while making pretend faces.

Its more along the lines of supporting such a thing, working as a marketing tool for the designer, using your political platform to go to a super nice party where you discuss the impoverished, etc.

[Reiwa]

Oh, I'm just....deplatforming hateful hate speech ;)

https://cdn.britannica.com/01/10701-004-D51B7F93/god-coin-beardless-Janus-Roman-Bibliotheque-Nationale.jpg

[Encroaching Death]

I forget if politicians can accept gifts or have to do what's called an "in kind donation" meaning they pay for it while making pretend faces.

You're missing the point.

Do you leftists not care if someone is a true believer?

Socialism or Consumerism.

Choose one.

[Jibartik]

"dont call me an asshole"

"then stop talking about your opinions, these are mine."

=/=

[Encroaching Death]

https://cdn.britannica.com/01/10701-004-D51B7F93/god-coin-beardless-Janus-Roman-Bibliotheque-Nationale.jpg

Yes, I agree.

It is very two-faced to engage in that behavior. :D

[Reiwa]

You're missing the point.

Do you leftists not care if someone is a true believer?

Socialism or Consumerism.

Choose one.

I think the second one doesn't require me to care what other people do for it to go brrr.

[Basanos]

Regurgitated propagandaNo answers, no original thoughts, only spin and deflection. That rich elite funded Daily Wire has eroded your ability to think, my man.

You've got to learn to hate those chains, dude

[unsunghero]

If you're on the side of the 3 thousand dollar dress that says tax the rich.

And not the shaman.

You're wrong.

You're just wrong.

[Kaveh]

you will, never. EVER. get a better system by voting for the system.

The billionares run the left and the right.

But the left gives them even more power, because they do it with good intentions.

They use the right to do stuff that they can only do with bad intentions, so the decline of civilization is slower with them in charge.

You sold out man. You sold out.

The system needs very minor reforms. You act like we’re Tunisia

We spend .2% of GDP and crush our greatest foe without losing one man

We’re legit dude, sorry you don’t have millions in index funds

[Encroaching Death]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/bros-billy-eichner-homophobics-box-office-1235231561/amp/

[Reiwa]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/bros-billy-eichner-homophobics-box-office-1235231561/amp/

Steven Crowder lost a few pounds. Good job Steve.

[Elizondo]

uoMfIkz7v6s

[Basanos]

When are the Democrats gonna do a January 6th, that's all I wanna know.

The other thing, and no, I didn't watch the video, is this thing called "evidence".

Not one scrap of which has been produced by Republicans regarding the 29 million plus votes the Republicans here think are missing.

[Basanos]

Imagine screaming to yourself every morning THE DEMOCRATS STOLE THE ELECTION DESPITE NO EVIDENCE

Rather than just consider that your beliefs are deeply unpopular

As a person with deeply unpopular beliefs, I advise growing a pair of balls

[Kaveh]

Communism does suck though dude. It’s even less popular than trump who got smoked by 7 million votes

[unsunghero]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/bros-billy-eichner-homophobics-box-office-1235231561/amp/

“Everyone who ISN’T a homophobic weirdo should go see BROS tonight”

So funny I remember this tactic as a kid, except it was “you should do this, unless you’re gay or something”

In which case I’d be pressured to be like “I’m not gay, WTF!” and go do the thing

Now it’s the reverse. People can’t seem to find a happy medium

[Basanos]

Communism does suck though dude. It’s even less popular than trump who got smoked by 7 million votesI'll worry about that the day I become a communist, my man

[Encroaching Death]

When are the Democrats gonna do a January 6th, that's all I wanna know.


The entire summer of 2020.

[Kaveh]

I thought you said you were one?

[Kaveh]

The entire summer of 2020.

BLM riots are not equivalent to trying to stop Congress from certifying an election that you guys continue to claim was stolen

people just need better governors. I never saw BLM in Houston and Houston is the blackest city outside of Lagos or Atlanta

[Basanos]

The entire summer of 2020.Oh, good point! If that's the appetizer I can't wait for the main course!

That summer clearly shook the right up pretty good, they can't stop talking about it, despite wanting everyone else to stop talking about Jan 6th for some crazy reason!

[Kaveh]

Then again, a lot of the riots I saw were a lot of white liberal looking types so maybe that’s why. Not many white liberals in Houston

[Encroaching Death]

Oh, good point! If that's the appetizer I can't wait for the main course!

That summer clearly shook the right up pretty good, they can't stop talking about it, despite wanting everyone else to stop talking about Jan 6th for some crazy reason!

Something something ironic...

[Encroaching Death]

https://youtu.be/9IwEv_rluhw

[Basanos]

I thought you said you were one?No, anarcho-communist. Democratic confederalist, specifically. Although I do enjoy yanking the chains of people who are clearly biased against communists, which is like 75% of Americans.

Not a big fan of the "classic" forms of communism though. Too much state power, firm hierarchies. I am critical of China and North Korea. Somewhat of Cuba, depending on the subject.

Remember giving me shit because of the Kurds? We had this talk a while back.

[Basanos]

Then again, a lot of the riots I saw were a lot of white liberal looking types so maybe that’s why. Not many white liberals in HoustonHere in Atlanta we had a pretty diverse coalition back in those days. It surprised me to find out how many of my ostensible liberal "allies" were afraid to go downtown. But white liberals here are afraid of MARTA, so going downtown would be even "worse"

[Encroaching Death]

No, anarcho-communist. Democratic confederalist, specifically. Although I do enjoy yanking the chains of people who are clearly biased against communists, which is like 75% of Americans.

Not a big fan of the "classic" forms of communism though. Too much state power, firm hierarchies. I am critical of China and North Korea. Somewhat of Cuba, depending on the subject.

Remember giving me shit because of the Kurds? We had this talk a while back.

That's still a Communist.

It's right there in the name.

[Reiwa]

No, anarcho-communist. Democratic confederalist, specifically. Although I do enjoy yanking the chains of people who are clearly biased against communists, which is like 75% of Americans.

Not a big fan of the "classic" forms of communism though. Too much state power, firm hierarchies. I am critical of China and North Korea. Somewhat of Cuba, depending on the subject.

Remember giving me shit because of the Kurds? We had this talk a while back.

Is that a variety of socialism? What does USSR mean? Schutzstaffel?

[Basanos]

That's still a Communist.

It's right there in the name.Take this discussion to leftist spaces, let me know if you get any pushback

Dr. Pepper is still a soft drink, but it isn't Coca-Cola

Is that a variety of socialism? What does USSR mean? Schutzstaffel?Not really, no

I guess maybe in the same way both a bird and a bat are flying animals

[Reiwa]

Take this discussion to leftist spaces, let me know if you get any pushback

Dr. Pepper is still a soft drink, but it isn't Coca-Cola

All soft drinks are 'coke' in some regions.

[Basanos]

All soft drinks are 'coke' in some regions.You kidding? I live in Atlanta. Pepsi is Coke here, if you can find it.

I don't think this is making the argument you think it is, everything from fascism to anarchy would be Coke in the south

[Reiwa]

You kidding? I live in Atlanta. Pepsi is Coke here, if you can find it.

I don't think this is making the argument you think it is, everything from fascism to anarchy would be Coke in the south

It's an umbrella term, no1 curr why it technically ain't what it clearly is.

[Encroaching Death]

Take this discussion to leftist spaces, let me know if you get any pushback

Dr. Pepper is still a soft drink, but it isn't Coca-Cola

Not really, no

I guess maybe in the same way both a bird and a bat are flying animals

"I'm not a fizzy, carbonated beverage. I'm Sprite."

Yes. You are. :)

[Basanos]

It's an umbrella term, no1 curr why it technically ain't what it clearly is.Republicans here think Joe Biden is a communist, as much as I'd love that, terms being fuzzy doesn't make it true

[Encroaching Death]

Republicans here think Joe Biden is a communist, as much as I'd love that, terms being fuzzy doesn't make it true

Do you know how 'Adjectives' work?

Anarcho-communism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism)

"Anarcho-communism,[1][2][3] also known as anarchist communism,[a] (or, colloquially, ancom or ancomm)[16] is a political philosophy and anarchist school of thought that advocates communism."

[Toxigen]

Here in Atlanta we had a pretty diverse coalition back in those days. It surprised me to find out how many of my ostensible liberal "allies" were afraid to go downtown. But white liberals here are afraid of MARTA, so going downtown would be even "worse"

Atlanta is a fucking shithole.

Hope this helps.

[Reiwa]

Republicans here think Joe Biden is a communist, as much as I'd love that, terms being fuzzy doesn't make it true

Social democracy is a left-wing political, social, and economic philosophy within socialism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy)

That's what they're accusing him of, since we're being autistic about it.

[Encroaching Death]

Atlanta is a fucking shithole.

Hope this helps.

When I was a kid I would ride the MARTA with my 978 year old great-grandmother, as she nonchalantly dropped N-bomb after N-bomb, but they were used in the kindest ways.

Even at 7 years old, I knew I was at risk at being stabbed in the neck. I believe we were the only white honkies within 28 square miles.

[Rethalis]

That's still a Communist.

It's right there in the name.

My knowledge on anarcho comunisim is not very deep, but so far of what i read its uninteresting.

Communisim works great at the family level, but as you extrapolate communisim out to bigger and bigger areas of governance it gets significantly worse.

So the idea is to eliminate the state, institute communisim at the local level. Then cobble together a representative government from the rest of the tribe like areas so they work together however that gets carved out geographically.

I am one of the biased 75% of Americans against communisim because of propaganda and I don't think for myself at all and my self evident truths are just socially constructed lies of the white supremacist overlords of the usa. So I'm probably wrong on my interpretation of anarcho communisim right now.

[Mblake1981]

Communisim works great at the family level, but as you extrapolate communisim out to bigger and bigger areas of governance it gets significantly worse.

Which systems are not capable of working at the family level?

[Rethalis]

Which systems are not capable of working at the family level?

I don't know, the point is most families are more Communist in nature than anything else. You know like a commune, resources and goods are shared ect.

[Encroaching Death]

Which systems are not capable of working at the family level?

My dad used to beat me for forgetting to take the trash out.

If we can avoid that system of government, that would be great.

[Mblake1981]

I don't know, the point is most families are more Communist in nature than anything else.

You mean a families blood bond vs. public?

I mean, because I call you my bro doesn't mean you are my flesh and blood brother, like for really reals.

[Rethalis]

You mean a families blood bond vs. public?

I mean, because I call you my bro doesn't mean you are my flesh and blood brother, like for really reals.

No I edited my comment, like a Commune, shared goods and resources ect for the betterment of the family.

[Mblake1981]

No I edited my comment, like a Commune, shared goods and resources ect for the betterment of the family.

Sure, but I would still do something for my real brother over my fake but sort of real commune brother.

[Rethalis]

Sure, but I would still do something for my real brother over my fake but sort of real commune brother.

That's why the ideolygy is trash. Most people think like this and righteously so.

[Encroaching Death]

No I edited my comment, like a Commune, shared goods and resources ect for the betterment of the family.

And dad gets to eat as much ice cream as he wants (Party Leader) while you're only allowed to have a small amount (the same as your brother, Billy)

I HATE YOU DAD

[Ooloo]

The individual is the ultimate minority. That's why any collective system is ultimately anti-human; see our current vice president's retarded sentiments about hurricane ian response priority. Or about covid vaccine priority, it's basically the same thing.

[Basanos]

Do you know how 'Adjectives' work?

Anarcho-communism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism)

"Anarcho-communism,[1][2][3] also known as anarchist communism,[a] (or, colloquially, ancom or ancomm)[16] is a political philosophy and anarchist school of thought that advocates communism."Yeah, and Republic is in North Korea's name, don't worry about it

I'm not even sure what the actual critique is here

[Encroaching Death]

Yeah, and Republic is in North Korea's name, don't worry about it

I'm not even sure what the actual critique is here

You fancy yourself a Communist and you don't know why North Korea calls itself "Democratic"?

[Basanos]

Anyways, it's cool to see three things confirmed in this thread

1.) Right wingers still cannot even define communism reliably.
2.) Right wingers don't understand critique of collectivism, since the above critique means the military is anti-human.
3.) Toxigen has nothing to add

[Basanos]

You fancy yourself a Communist and you don't know why North Korea calls itself "Democratic"?I don't fancy myself a communist. I've said it twice now. Do try to keep up, I'm like the ONE left wing person here

[Encroaching Death]

I don't fancy myself a communist. I've said it twice now. Do try to keep up, I'm like the ONE left wing person here

An Anarcho-Communist is still a Communist.

The only difference is how the Communist system is governed.

[Basanos]

An Anarcho-Communist is still a Communist.

The only difference is how the Communist system is governed.I hate to break it to you, but I am neither a nation nor a government, but a person.

Still not sure what the critique actually is. What does it matter? Arachno-commie or classic commie, there's about five of us in America, two of them are podcasters, two are FBI agents, and me

[Encroaching Death]

I hate to break it to you, but I am neither a nation nor a government, but a person.


So in order to advocate for a form of government, you must become one first?

Hell yeah, I'm into that.

[Ooloo]

Anyways, it's cool to see three things confirmed in this thread

1.) Right wingers still cannot even define communism reliably.
2.) Right wingers don't understand critique of collectivism, since the above critique means the military is anti-human.
3.) Toxigen has nothing to add

You seem to have quite a hardon for hating the military. Yes the military is very collectivist, because the purpose of the military is to fight and win wars.

Deciding who should get medical treatment or emergency fema resources after a hurricane is quite different than rallying a unified objective in a military context.

[Basanos]

You're the one putting a value judgement on collectivism itself, not me.

We teach children to cooperate to benefit one another, should that stop because it's "anti-human", as you say?

Like many other things, it's neither good nor bad, but how it's used. Same goes for individualism.

And yes, I openly admit my total contempt for the United States military. All of the others, too. Because I am a Classical Christian.

[Ooloo]

You're the one putting a value judgement on collectivism itself, not me.

We teach children to cooperate to benefit one another, should that stop because it's "anti-human", as you say?

Like many other things, it's neither good nor bad, but how it's used. Same goes for individualism.

And yes, I openly admit my total contempt for the United States military. All of the others, too. Because I am a Classical Christian.

Ok well, do you prefer that medicine and emergency response is deployed on the basis of collective need or individual need? That's what I'm wondering.

[Basanos]

I am not going to defend a statement I never made, and I am not going to be baited into talking about it. I don't even know what Kamala statement you are referring to. She's a cop, I don't listen to her.

[Reiwa]

Well she's nuts.

[Basanos]

Probably. I remember a lot of statements that are like Deepak Chopra nonsense, minus repeated uses of the word "quantum"

[Ooloo]

I am not going to defend a statement I never made, and I am not going to be baited into talking about it. I don't even know what Kamala statement you are referring to. She's a cop, I don't listen to her.

I'm not asking you to, I'm asking what you think good policy is after a hurricane. I think most people, including you, would say "put out the house that is currently on fire". Kamala seems to think otherwise, or at least pretends she does.

[Basanos]

I'm not asking you to, I'm asking what you think good policy is after a hurricane. I think most people, including you, would say "put out the house that is currently on fire". Kamala seems to think otherwise, or at least pretends she does.Well, then I agree. Collective needs first, then individual ones wherever possible and as resources dictate. We don't need Roman-style fire fighters or whatever. Politics and money should not be relevant post-disaster.

Can you show me something that shows what Kamala was saying? I like a good, circular nonsense statement.

Ever read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine? I've been very skeptical of post-disaster periods since I did.

[Jibartik]

What are the shitty democrats excuse for the guy who fucked up healthcare to get back into the white house, and not do SHIT ABOUT HEALTHCARE

[magnetaress]

If Trump just deleted it entirely in place of a 100% private system with no government regulations it would be 100% more honestly dishonest.

The individual states would still manage to royally screw it up tho. I guarantee there'd be a lot more young doctors tho.

[Basanos]

What are the shitty democrats excuse for the guy who fucked up healthcare to get back into the white house, and not do SHIT ABOUT HEALTHCAREThe usual, the cost, or the rotating villain in the senate/and/or/house 'prevents' them from doing it. Joe Manchin or the other one. Or 'the Supreme Court is too conservative, they'd overturn it'. Which they also did to themselves.

If they pass it, they can't campaign on it. I assume they will get all the mileage they can out of abortions similarly.

If Trump wins again, though, you really think he's gonna do something about healthcare?

[Jibartik]

Biden was about to pass a 20 trillion dollar everything but helathcare bill...

If Trump wins again, though, you really think he's gonna do something about healthcare?

No why would I? he is not dangling that real problem in front of my face as a lie to get me to vote for him.

There is more danger from the snake that lies than the snake that hides.

(I made that up because Im like a weird old guy you encounter on your quest)

[Encroaching Death]

Friendly Reminder that the Elites want us bickering with each other here instead of "dealing" with them.

Alright, go back to fighting :)

[Reiwa]

Probably. I remember a lot of statements that are like Deepak Chopra nonsense, minus repeated uses of the word "quantum"

Sorry not Kamala. Crazy lady at a restaurant.

[Reiwa]

Tu stultus es (https://twitter.com/AnthonyMKreis/status/1577005406593122305)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeKmC6ZXkAQ3O4L?format=jpg&name=large

[unsunghero]

I'm not asking you to, I'm asking what you think good policy is after a hurricane. I think most people, including you, would say "put out the house that is currently on fire". Kamala seems to think otherwise, or at least pretends she does.

We’re getting some shitty weather here in AZ

I was at work and everyone’s phones started notification pinging a dust storm warning. At the end of the warning it read “WOMEN AND BLACKS MOST AFFECTED”

I saw a black dude trying to run to shelter from the wind, just crumpled. Two white dudes walked over him. Really messed up

[Reiwa]

We’re getting some shitty weather here in AZ

I was at work and everyone’s phones started notification pinging a dust storm warning. At the end of the warning it read “WOMEN AND BLACKS MOST AFFECTED”

I saw a black dude trying to run to shelter from the wind, just crumpled. Two white dudes walked over him. Really messed up

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19021&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1664845186



Arizona

•The only "tree" in your front yard is a saguaro.

•You feel cold when it dips to 85 degrees.

•You know what to do during a haboob.

[unsunghero]

^
lol these are true

[Danth]

I had an aunt who lived in Arizona outside Phoenix. Her front yard was made out of rocks, the fences were 8 foot cinderblock walls that made the entire city feel like a prison complex, the sidewalks were known to melt shoes, everyone was terrified of letting their kids play out on the street, it was 110 on the coolest day, there were more dust-storms than rain-storms, the air quality was lousy because the city's in a natural sink, and everything was brown. I did not see the appeal.

Flagstaff is really nice though. That's a lovely area, thought about moving there on several occasions.

[Encroaching Death]

We’re getting some shitty weather here in AZ

I was at work and everyone’s phones started notification pinging a dust storm warning. At the end of the warning it read “WOMEN AND BLACKS MOST AFFECTED”

I saw a black dude trying to run to shelter from the wind, just crumpled. Two white dudes walked over him. Really messed up

Like the Vice President did with the hurricane a few days ago.

The people who are usually most affected in a hurricane live on the beach.

Where the housing is insanely expensive.

And there are next to zero minorities.

I personally know a few white people, with shitty jobs, who just lost a part of their house in the storm.

But they won't get help because of their skin color.

And they wonder why we don't vote for them...

[Encroaching Death]

Illegal immigration through our southern border is just modern day chattal slavery.

"I wouldn't have supported slavery back in the day!"

Uhhh, you support it today...

[Reiwa]

Illegal immigration through our southern border is just modern day chattal slavery.

"I wouldn't have supported slavery back in the day!"

Uhhh, you support it today...

How do you figure?

Also you misspelled chattel.

[Danth]

How do you figure?

Also you misspelled chattel.


He has a point. We have a lot of farms around here that use illegals, and not a few construction companies. They bus them up here, most of 'em have no practical means of individual transport, they speak a foreign language not commonly used around here, they get paid peanuts compared to legal labor, they have little health protection and zero legal protection, crimes against them usually go unreported, most of them live in squalor and under constant threat of being handed over to the various legal agencies, it's a miserable life for migrant workers. History will not judge it kindly. The disturbing level of exploitation and mistreatment of them is one of the driving factors behind my own distaste for that kind of illegal and under-the-table migration.

[Reiwa]

He has a point. We have a lot of farms around here that use illegals, and not a few construction companies. They bus them up here, most of 'em have no practical means of individual transport, they speak a foreign language not commonly used around here, they get paid peanuts compared to legal labor, they have little health protection and zero legal protection, crimes against them usually go unreported, most of them live in squalor and under constant threat of being handed over to the various legal agencies, it's a miserable life for migrant workers. History will not judge it kindly. The disturbing level of exploitation and mistreatment of them is one of the driving factors behind my own distaste for that kind of illegal and under-the-table migration.

What is the principle where illegal citizens are treated as having rights?

[Jibartik]

wages are low because illegal immigrants.

*insert "non racist" democrat comment about how "they" can do the "dirty jobs" "whites" "dont want to do"

**(for pennies on the dollar)

[unsunghero]

What is the principle where illegal citizens are treated as having rights?

Probably a lot of the same very basic ones otherwise you could just run them over in your car like they were a bug and get away with it. Can’t be infringing on someone else’s rights if they had no rights

[Reiwa]

Probably a lot of the same very basic ones otherwise you could just run them over in your car like they were a bug and get away with it. Can’t be infringing on someone else’s rights if they had no rights

Yes I just want to know what it's called. Sorry.

[Jibartik]

"wages should be higher!"
*adds 600 thousand undocumented workers to the economy in 2021

[unsunghero]

Yes I just want to know what it's called. Sorry.

Oh I dunno, I was only thinking from the ground up, safety. That might be about it. Theoretically at any time they could be deported if caught, although realistically I think they only deport the really violent ones when they catch them, but who knows

[Jibartik]

lol you know what's a funny question I am just realizing.

Everyone thinks they wouldn't be a nazi if they were in nazi Germany, like everyone is like, "NOOO no way I wouldn't be, NOOO."

I wonder who is like, "oh hell yeah lol I would have totally been a nazi, I would have gotten all caught up in the clothes and extremity of it all."

Like who's willing to admit they would have let it all happen becacuse they never would have fathonmed it could get as bad as it got?

Well, I am gonna have to say I was a maga king in the new world maybe.. so cheers to all those folks that didn't know what they were getting themselves into.

[unsunghero]

lol you know what's a funny question I am just realizing.

Everyone thinks they wouldn't be a nazi if they were in nazi Germany, like everyone is like, "NOOO no way I wouldn't be, NOOO."

I wonder who is like, "oh hell yeah lol I would have totally been a nazi, I would have gotten all caught up in the clothes and extremity of it all."

Like who's willing to admit they would have let it all happen becacuse they never would have fathonmed it could get as bad as it got?

Well, I am gonna have to say I was a maga king in the new world maybe.. so cheers to all those folks that didn't know what they were getting themselves into.

I know I would be a chameleon, whatever I need to be to survive (within a moral framework I would hope). This means I would have zero problem pretending I’m not Jewish, or I’m whatever other thing that will keep me alive. I have incredible respect for anyone willing to die for their faith, but that’s not me

[unsunghero]

^
A more modern scenario is I think my best chance if I was ever caught by cartel would be to offer to mule for them. Convince them I don’t make good money back home and as a white dude it would be easier for me to go back and forth across the border

My best chance would be my persuasion skills and trying to get away later, rather than testing their accuracy with their guns right now. Of course if I get the feeling I’m going to die right then the persuasion stops and I try to hurt someone before I go. I hope, who can really know until in that situation tho, maybe I just shit my pants and do nothing

[Jibartik]

Since I abhor violence I have a feeling Id be pretty anti nazi. But I always worry about it because I might have been hoping to spawn jesus.

[unsunghero]

Since I abhor violence I have a feeling Id be pretty anti nazi. But I always worry about it because I might have been hoping to spawn jesus.

Sometimes I wonder what I would do if the cartel said you can join but we want you to kill this innocent person first

Then I’d still be in the same position as before but now I have a weapon in my hand. Maybe I take one of them to hell with me instead

Same concept as the Nazi question

[Jibartik]

Someone did that to their conscription officer in russia

I've never understood the draft.

Force me to go fight in a war and YOU are the enemy.

[Patrece]

https://i.imgur.com/POkp4Ew.png



These people are nothing that they say they are. Remember Martha's Vineyard.

[Patrece]

https://i.imgur.com/0uqYIhb.jpg

[Basanos]

https://i.imgur.com/POkp4Ew.png



These people are nothing that they say they are. Remember Martha's Vineyard.Oh no! They weren't in the vehicles their bias taught them to expect!

Surely this means the end of what some guy with 75 IQ thought was the left

[Basanos]

Remember this story? Apparently there is a new wrinkle. The thin blue line strikes again

https://i.imgur.com/pGX36qc.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/HJnqNVU.jpeg

[Kaveh]

What is the principle where illegal citizens are treated as having rights?

Stupidity

You incentivize people to take advantage and they will. The border should have a trebuchet every mile flinging illegals back into Mexico

[Homesteaded]

Stupidity

You incentivize people to take advantage and they will. The border should have a trebuchet every mile flinging illegals back into Mexico

Love that. Might employ some weird college degrees to make it happen.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/0uqYIhb.jpg

I was watching the news and they were like, "trump says that he didn't do something"...

"But we heard from testimony from the Jan 6th committee that was not true."

lol they think that was like a real court.

[Basanos]

I was watching the news and they were like, "trump says that he didn't do something"...

"But we heard from testimony from the Jan 6th committee that was not true."

lol they think that was like a real court.Pretty sure there's room for the committee to be a sham AND a liar to lie repeatedly without consequence

[Jibartik]

"if someone said it during the kangaroo court, then the news reports it was true"

nice anarchy system you have here.

[Encroaching Death]

Remember when Adam Schiff told the press that he had evidence to indict Trump?

ROFL

[Jibartik]

haha remember when biden was not the reason gas prices were going up?

well never mind that, he's the reason they're going down.

:D

[Basanos]

"if someone said it during the kangaroo court, then the news reports it was true"

nice anarchy system you have here.That isn't what I said. I don't trust the news any more than you do. I just extend that mistrust to Donald Trump, and I fail to see how you can't make that connection.

[Elizondo]

Debate moderator to Hung Cao (R) - "Is Joe Biden President?"

Hung Cao - “Just look at the price of gas—Biden is definitely President.”

lol based

[Encroaching Death]

Debate moderator to Hung Cao (R) - "Is Joe Biden President?"

Debate moderators out here trying to ask 'gotcha' questions while trying to convince the rest of us that they're fair and unbiased.

lol this country is a joke.

[Jibartik]

Pretty sure there's room for the committee to be a sham AND a liar to lie repeatedly without consequence

this statement outright supports the kangaroo court and the system that lies about it.

I know you dont mean to support this system, but that's why I point it out!

[unsunghero]

Dem think-tank trying to figure out how to election meddle now that censorship is back off the menu, boys

[Encroaching Death]

Dem think-tank trying to figure out how to election meddle now that censorship is back off the menu, boys

The Left owns all.

News. Academia. Entertainment. Silicon Valley (Social Media). Military. Large Corporations.

What do Conservatives have? Talk Radio and My Pillow.

[Jibartik]

The Left owns all.

You forgot: science. (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/u-n-communications-official-touts-google-search-partnership-we-own-the-science/)

The United Nations’ under-secretary-general for global communications said last week that the U.N. has partnered with several big tech companies to combat disinformation on Covid-19 and climate change because “we own the science and we think that the world should know it.”

The UN council doesn't trust the tech companies with phone chargers (https://news.un.org/en/story/2009/10/318522-un-approves-energy-efficient-mobile-telephone-charger-worldwide-use), but the science? Big tech can manage that.

:p

[Reiwa]

The Left owns all.

News. Academia. Entertainment. Silicon Valley (Social Media). Military. Large Corporations.

What do Conservatives have? Talk Radio and My Pillow.

Elon Musk is a socialist.

[Encroaching Death]

Elon Musk is a socialist.

He probably is.

We don't know his politics.

[Jibartik]

Elon Musk is a socialist.

is he though? (https://mosaicboston.com/blog/2020/1/18/beware-the-lies-of-the-antichrist)

[Kaveh]

The Left owns all.

News. Academia. Entertainment. Silicon Valley (Social Media). Military. Large Corporations.

What do Conservatives have? Talk Radio and My Pillow.

Oil, defense, and Big Agriculture are definitely not left leaning industries

[Encroaching Death]

You forgot: science. (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/u-n-communications-official-touts-google-search-partnership-we-own-the-science/)



The UN council doesn't trust the tech companies with phone chargers (https://news.un.org/en/story/2009/10/318522-un-approves-energy-efficient-mobile-telephone-charger-worldwide-use), but the science? Big tech can manage that.

:p

Man, it would really be nice if Leftists would help us take these power-hungry bureaucrats down a notch - but I guess they're just cool with this...

[Encroaching Death]

Oil, defense, and Big Agriculture are definitely not left leaning industries

They've infiltrated the top brass in the military - does it matter if we have anything else?

[Reiwa]

Man, it would really be nice if Leftists would help us take these power-hungry bureaucrats down a notch - but I guess they're just cool with this...

I think it means they own a patent for some process. Can't hear anything with all the shrieking though.

[unsunghero]

He probably is.

We don't know his politics.

“He stated in 2022 that he had "voted overwhelmingly for Democrats, historically" but intended to vote Republican in an upcoming election”

[Jibartik]

Man, it would really be nice if Leftists would help us take these power-hungry bureaucrats down a notch - but I guess they're just cool with this...

hey it's the science, the math adds up (we're told)

[Kaveh]

They've infiltrated the top brass in the military - does it matter if we have anything else?

Like whom? What is left to you? I don’t think of the military as left leaning

[Jibartik]

I think it means they own a patent for some process. Can't hear anything with all the shrieking though.

hmmm.

Where have I heard this before?

hmmm..

what is it... hmmmm...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/02/brun-f16.html

[Encroaching Death]

Like whom? What is left to you? I don’t think of the military as left leaning

A lot of the leaders and anyone in a political position is very left leaning.

They also just got purging any right leaning staff (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/us/politics/military-capitol-riot-inauguration.html) (You can excuse the 'Far Right' description...they target those with Gadsden flags for example)

[Reiwa]

hmmm.

Where have I heard this before?

hmmm..

what is it... hmmmm...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/02/brun-f16.html

It was nice of Benedict to do that I guess? Dunno what it has to do with intellectual property.

[Encroaching Death]

I think it means they own a patent for some process. Can't hear anything with all the shrieking though.

She's clearly talking about how the UN owns the conversation and truth about science.

Whether or not you agree with her, it's the UN claiming they own the truth on something.

That should send chills down your spine. Right or Left.

[unsunghero]

They also just got purging any right leaning staff (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/us/politics/military-capitol-riot-inauguration.html) (You can excuse the 'Far Right' description...they target those with Gadsden flags for example)

Yeah anything right of center is far right to most leftists. There’s a benefit to being surrounded by people who don’t share your worldview, take it from myself a conservative working in a field which is 90%+ leftist. You are plugged into all their opinions and news all the time. You can’t debate them because it blows up and at work that can be far worse for you than online anonymously. But there is still a benefit

However, if you plan to allow your biases to affect your decision making, then having co-workers with opposing political views around could make you uncomfortable, whether they object or not. Just the thought of co-workers recognizing and disagreeing with one’s obvious bias would be a discomfort, so better to root them all out

[Jibartik]

I'm just glad we can focus the science like a laser finally, without all the noise of shared ideas muddying the waters.

[Encroaching Death]

I'm just glad we can focus the science like a laser finally, without all the noise of shared ideas muddying the waters.

Yeah, because the powerful elite are really just interested in the truth.

They're just so concerned about the truth.

It's not at all about controlling dissenters or anything.

[Danth]

You can’t debate them

That's a problem in and of itself. In a democratic republic as large as ours, people are going to have opposing views. We aren't insect drones and don't have a hive mind. We have to be able to live with that.

Just the other day I was joking with a relative because we're hard-opposite on unionization. All my life I've regarded folks who cross a picket line as deserving the beating they'd get. He is generally anti-union and would indeed cross a picket line. It didn't turn contentious though. Instead we accepted our difference, laughed it off, agreed we could conveivably end up on opposite sides of a brawl, and if it happened, we'd take our licks and still be welcome to visit on holidays/etc afterward.

Danth

[Jibartik]

I think this phenomenon we're in is because of anonymous communication through the internet.

like you and your relative, were already like minded enough to want to be in each others proximity, and have a reason to want to be.

While on the internet you could be interacting with someone, that in real life youd have avoided at all costs just by looking at them.

So we're like, imagine you're a 60 year old woman, and you like gardening.

Well online suddenly you're in a room full of 13 year old internet trolls who like death metal, talking about politics.

[Encroaching Death]

That's a problem in and of itself. In a democratic republic as large as ours, people are going to have opposing views. We aren't insect drones and don't have a hive mind. We have to be able to live with that.

Just the other day I was joking with a relative because we're hard-opposite on unionization. All my life I've regarded folks who cross a picket line as deserving the beating they'd get. He is generally anti-union and would indeed cross a picket line. It didn't turn contentious though. Instead we accepted our difference, laughed it off, agreed we could conveivably end up on opposite sides of a brawl, and if it happened, we'd take our licks and still be welcome to visit on holidays/etc afterward.

Danth

The Internet is at fault.

Before the Internet, we didn't know just how BADLY we disagreed.

We knew we disagreed on things, sure. But holy shit - the Internet has revealed how bad we disagree on fundamental things.

I used to believe we all supported the Constitution.

Hell no. There are MILLIONS of Americans who want to see human rights burned at the stake of statist security.

That is alien to me. I don't live with aliens.

[Reiwa]

That's a problem in and of itself. In a democratic republic as large as ours, people are going to have opposing views. We aren't insect drones and don't have a hive mind. We have to be able to live with that.

Just the other day I was joking with a relative because we're hard-opposite on unionization. All my life I've regarded folks who cross a picket line as deserving the beating they'd get. He is generally anti-union and would indeed cross a picket line. It didn't turn contentious though. Instead we accepted our difference, laughed it off, agreed we could conveivably end up on opposite sides of a brawl, and if it happened, we'd take our licks and still be welcome to visit on holidays/etc afterward.

Danth

I think most aggressors would still hesitate if you stated your intent to "lick the hell out of them".

[Encroaching Death]

I think most aggressors would still hesitate if you stated your intent to "lick the hell out of them".

I call that "The Chad Defense".

[Jibartik]

Imagine your moms and dad's when you're 13 arguing with you.

Doing this with strangers is most of the internet.

[unsunghero]

13 year old internet trolls who like death metal, talking about politics.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/hGcG35d.png

[Chortles Snortles]

the internet was a mistake

[Encroaching Death]

Both of them look like they would hate my opinions.

[Encroaching Death]

the internet was a mistake

It kind of was.

In 15 or 20 years, it will be known as "The Bane of Humanity" while we roam the nuclear scarred wasteland for our next meal of radroaches

[Jibartik]

the Internet itself, which began as Arpanet, an effort of the Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in the late 1960s

Hmm what else did we do in the 1960s

Project MKUltra (or MK-Ultra)[a] was the code name of an illegal human experimentation program designed and undertaken by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to develop procedures to weaken individuals through brainwashing and psychological torture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra

[Ooloo]

Rainbow hair girl has perfect teeth, but goth angry girl is more attractive change my mind

Wait is that a mother and daughter?

[Encroaching Death]

Rainbow hair girl has perfect teeth, but goth angry girl is more attractive change my mind

Wait is that a mother and daughter?

I find the both attractive in their own way.

I kind of like stupid, bubbly women.

They're easy to take advantage of.

[Jibartik]

Do you think these kids are angry at TRUMP for drone striking one of their generals?

7lecV4_dTS0

[Encroaching Death]

Man, say what you will about the United States, but we're really good at toppling regimes with our "totally legit" NGOs.

The boys at Langley must be having a blast. I'm missing out. I would have never survived The Farm tbh though.

[unsunghero]

Oof

[Encroaching Death]

Have you seen the "Before and After University" photos?

They're horrible.

Probably the reason this photo was released. They needed some counter propaganda.

[Jibartik]

This is why it's punk rock to be conservative now.

[unsunghero]

Holy shit I go here all the time at work. Been there probably 100 times over the years

They call themselves a school but really they are a residential treatment center for kids who are delinquents (placed there by judge on court deferent) or have a lot of mental health issues (usually more on the danger to others side of things)

Just goes to show how bad the fentanyl blues are taking over here in AZ. I guarantee you that’s what a boy musta snuck in

Yay Mexico

[Elizondo]

19033

[unsunghero]

Andrew Tate has said some insightful things, but mixed in is a bunch of stupid shit like this

Men are biologically programmed to be attracted to younger fit women because they are in the best possible medical position to birth and nurture a child. Whether the man wants a child or not is irrelevant. Just as women are biologically programmed to be attracted to taller men because a taller man is someone who could protect them better. With the invention of guns size is irrelevant and in a safe society it’s even more irrelevant, but that won’t change what women are biologically programmed to be attracted to

How much dick you think a woman has taken based on her age is Andrew Tate’s weird thinking, not the norm. There are plenty of absolutely drop dead gorgeous women in their early 20’s who have been with maybe 1 or 2 guys tops if that. Not every gorgeous girl is living like a porn star, and anyone who thinks that probably watches too much porn to begin with

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqcb07VJz4

[Ooloo]

Yeah he's weird, he's like the least likeable possible version of a person I'd mostly agree with, depending on the issue. He almost goes out of his way to be a douchey misogynist character only it seems genuine

Also his accent drives me nuts, its in some weird grey area between british and sounding like guy fieri

[Encroaching Death]

Gay men sue New York and want the state to force a woman to have their child (https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/01/two-gay-men-sue-new-york-city-because-insurance-didnt-pay-for-a-surrogate-to-carry-their-baby/)

Who wants to control women's bodies now? Lefties are so entitled that they think your womb belongs to them rofl

[Basanos]

Gay men sue New York and want the state to force a woman to have their child (https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/01/two-gay-men-sue-new-york-city-because-insurance-didnt-pay-for-a-surrogate-to-carry-their-baby/)

Who wants to control women's bodies now? Lefties are so entitled that they think your womb belongs to them roflNot seeing anything about the Left in that article, surrogates being psychotic predates the modern political spectrum

Anyways, welcome to capitalism!

https://i.imgur.com/frGqfDS.jpeg

[Encroaching Death]

Not seeing anything about the Left in that article, surrogates being psychotic predates the modern political spectrum

Anyways, welcome to capitalism!


They're claiming they are oppressed by being born gay.

A popular Leftwing talking point.

They're Leftists.

[Basanos]

They're claiming they are oppressed by being born gay.

A popular Leftwing talking point.

They're Leftists.With this standard of evidence, dinosaurs were also Leftists

[Encroaching Death]

With this standard of evidence, dinosaurs were also Leftists

This coming from the guy who claims Communists aren't Communists, I'm not surprised.

You are the king of "No True Scotsman".

[Basanos]

This coming from the guy who claims Communists aren't Communists, I'm not surprised.

You are the king of "No True Scotsman".Oh my god another god damn debate club post, Ben Shapiro has ruined the internet

[Homesteaded]

Oh my god another god damn debate club post, Ben Shapiro has ruined the internet

Ever notice how obsessed the communists are with strong male figures? All arguments are derivations of these strong men. Trump, Walsh, Shapiro and Peterson come to mind. These folks can’t get the names out of their mouth.

[Reiwa]

Ever notice how obsessed the communists are with strong male figures? All arguments are derivations of these strong men. Trump, Walsh, Shapiro and Peterson come to mind. These folks can’t get the names out of their mouth.

Those are nerds though.

Just because a nerd grows a beard doesn't mean he's not a nerd.

[Basanos]

Those are nerds though.

Just because a nerd grows a beard doesn't mean he's not a nerd.I love that those are his examples of strong men and not Jesus Christ of Nazareth :rolleyes:

[Reiwa]

I love that those are his examples of strong men and not Jesus Christ of Nazareth :rolleyes:

I think their reasoning would make notch the alpha of the xennial pack. $$$

[Encroaching Death]

Oh my god another god damn debate club post, Ben Shapiro has ruined the internet

You are a prime example of "No True Scotsman".

What next? Is an Anarcho-capitalist not a Capitalist?

Sorry you don't know what Adjectives are (lol)

[Basanos]

You are a prime example of "No True Scotsman".

What next? Is an Anarcho-capitalist not a Capitalist?

Sorry you don't know what Adjectives are (lol)Anarcho capitalists understand neither anarchy nor capitalism, and are the most hilarious morons on the internet

If we're going to just decide suddenly that all gay couples are leftists because they're gay, then all heterosexual couples are rightwing. Which group do you wager has a larger set of insane lawsuits on record?

Your average surrogate using couple are heterosexual whites, do their weirdnesses incriminate all the straight whites?

[Basanos]

Nationalism is a traditional talking point for the Right. Therefore, all things done in the name of nationalism are the fault of American Republicans. Bulletproof.

[Reiwa]

Anarcho capitalists understand neither anarchy nor capitalism, and are the most hilarious morons on the internet

If we're going to just decide suddenly that all gay couples are leftists because they're gay, then all heterosexual couples are rightwing. Which group do you wager has a larger set of insane lawsuits on record?

Your average surrogate using couple are heterosexual whites, do their weirdnesses incriminate all the straight whites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowers_v._Hardwick

[Basanos]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowers_v._HardwickThe word surrogate is not mentioned here but I did read it. As usual, this tells me little of your thoughts.

Hz1JWzyvv8A

[Reiwa]

The word surrogate is not mentioned here but I did read it. As usual, this tells me little of your thoughts.

Hz1JWzyvv8A

I don't have thoughts. Just information.

A heterosexual married couple was initially named in the suit as plaintiffs John and Mary Doe, alleging that they wished to engage in sodomy but were prevented from doing so by the Georgia anti-sodomy law.[1] They failed to obtain standing and were dropped from the suit.[1]

[Encroaching Death]

Anarcho capitalists understand neither anarchy nor capitalism, and are the most hilarious morons on the internet

If we're going to just decide suddenly that all gay couples are leftists because they're gay, then all heterosexual couples are rightwing. Which group do you wager has a larger set of insane lawsuits on record?

Your average surrogate using couple are heterosexual whites, do their weirdnesses incriminate all the straight whites?

No Conservative on the planet supports or uses intersectional talking points when arguing for something.

Doing so would make them Leftist.

[Jibartik]

Andrew Tate has said some insightful things, but mixed in is a bunch of stupid shit like this

Men are biologically programmed to be attracted to younger fit women because they are in the best possible medical position to birth and nurture a child. Whether the man wants a child or not is irrelevant. Just as women are biologically programmed to be attracted to taller men because a taller man is someone who could protect them better. With the invention of guns size is irrelevant and in a safe society it’s even more irrelevant, but that won’t change what women are biologically programmed to be attracted to

How much dick you think a woman has taken based on her age is Andrew Tate’s weird thinking, not the norm. There are plenty of absolutely drop dead gorgeous women in their early 20’s who have been with maybe 1 or 2 guys tops if that. Not every gorgeous girl is living like a porn star, and anyone who thinks that probably watches too much porn to begin with

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GFqcb07VJz4

cool, now do jeffery epstine https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XJwFTkjg388

[Jibartik]

Nationalism is a traditional talking point for the Right. Therefore, all things done in the name of nationalism are the fault of American Republicans. Bulletproof.

Nationalism means that you think the nation should care for its people, which is literally right in line with socialism or communism. People are brainwashed to think that patriotism means that. But patriotism means YOU take care of the goverment.

Nationalism is patriotism but with a lifetime of brainwashing that it means White Supremist. So the very idea a nation would even remotely care about its citizens would be repulsive to the victims of this MKultra psyop. It's designed to make you ONLY patriotic... Not the member of a nation.

patritoic: willing to die in a war for your country.
nationalist: willing to die in a war for your countryman.

[Reiwa]

Nationalism means that you think the nation should care for its people, which is literally right in line with socialism or communism. People are brainwashed to think that patriotism means that. But patriotism means YOU take care of the goverment.

Nationalism is patriotism but with a lifetime of brainwashing that it means White Supremist. So the very idea a nation would even remotely care about its citizens would be repulsive to the victims of this MKultra psyop. It's designed to make you ONLY patriotic... Not the member of a nation.

patritoic: willing to die in a war for your country.
nationalist: willing to die in a war for your countryman.

What makes Tromp a nationalist?

[Basanos]

No Conservative on the planet supports or uses intersectional talking points when arguing for something.

Doing so would make them Leftist.They usually don’t need to, they only appeal to a single identity. Maybe they should consider it.

I feel like I see attempts at it every MLK day, but everyone knows that’s a bunch of crap.

[Basanos]

Nationalism means that you think the nation should care for its people, which is literally right in line with socialism or communism. People are brainwashed to think that patriotism means that. But patriotism means YOU take care of the goverment.

Nationalism is patriotism but with a lifetime of brainwashing that it means White Supremist. So the very idea a nation would even remotely care about its citizens would be repulsive to the victims of this MKultra psyop. It's designed to make you ONLY patriotic... Not the member of a nation.

patritoic: willing to die in a war for your country.
nationalist: willing to die in a war for your countryman.Okay it was just an example to show why not every gay couple are leftists, gayness doesn’t make people immune to being dumbasses

[Jibartik]

What makes Tromp a nationalist?

Why does he matter in this context? Should we divert all conversationa about political ideology to this guy the left seems to think is a messionic figure? The all knowing, all seeing, all ruling god of anyone who isnt a full blown DNC supporter?

Trump is a nationalist because he would cut any line to get America something first. Says we are #1. Lowers foreign spending. Brought us home from Afghanistan. And is anti war.

[Danth]

...

With respect to the political philosophy you asked about yesterday, I forget what it's called off the top of my head. I know there's a term for it but it escapes me at the moment. I'll settle for calling it, "common human decency."

[Jibartik]

I think the idea that there are socilaists, that are anti nation, are pretty freaky.

Like what is the plan here, 1 world goverment?

That was all the most, MOST evil people in the worlds plan.

Not one common, decent person, has ever wanted to do that.

That plan, has done nothing, but cause misery, and pain to countless trillions of people.

[unsunghero]

cool, now do jeffery epstine https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XJwFTkjg388

The vid you linked is Andrew Tate not Epstein though

Why someone would film themselves admitting to a crime like DV is beyond me. I mean, anyone who hits women I already don’t understand but then filming yourself admitting to it is a special kind of stupid

[Jibartik]

Thats what I mean, tate is a gigantic piece of shit.

Now talk about how epstien (another piece of shit) had some good ideas is what I meant :o

Some times the good ideas of someone are not really valuble, becuase most of those good ideas are common sense lol

like being into young woman, sure that seems like common sense, but that is a young guy too, physically, and mentally.

Some people might not even be remotely attracted to a female body, and are looking to procreate with the genetics that will make them strong, intelligent children too.

It's mysogonistic to say all men like 22 year olds instead of 26 year olds because tate is a mysogonist, and he is applying his logic to the entire male/female species.

[Reiwa]

With respect to the political philosophy you asked about yesterday, I forget what it's called off the top of my head. I know there's a term for it but it escapes me at the moment. I'll settle for calling it, "common human decency."

That sounds made up.

e: answer is equal protection and due process. (https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub) ty nm!

[Jibartik]

Do you guys notice how democrats like to tout the patriotic phrase a lot?

Do you think that the vast secret agencies that very much are managed by psychotic minds (https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackmccullough/2019/12/09/the-psychopathic-ceo/?sh=4cb42541791e) and get all their power from the goverment, aren't invested in making you think that way?

[Basanos]

I think the idea that there are socilaists, that are anti nation, are pretty freaky.

Like what is the plan here, 1 world goverment?

That was all the most, MOST evil people in the worlds plan.

Not one common, decent person, has ever wanted to do that.

That plan, has done nothing, but cause misery, and pain to countless trillions of people.Point me to the previous one world government and we can discuss its failures and successes.

Not what you think certain billionaires might think, but previous examples of a single, unified government of all the former nations of Earth.

If we aren't having utopian dreams, we have lost our vision

[Rethalis]

Do you guys notice how democrats like to tout the patriotic phrase a lot?

Do you think that the vast secret agencies that very much are managed by psychotic minds (https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackmccullough/2019/12/09/the-psychopathic-ceo/?sh=4cb42541791e) and get all their power from the goverment, aren't invested in making you think that way?

We have to define things like a leftist first before we have a conversation about it

Patriotic = anything I like
Democracy = I can do anything I want

[Jibartik]

Point me to the previous one world government and we can discuss its failures and successes.

Not what you think certain billionaires might think, but previous examples of a single, unified government of all the former nations of Earth.

If we aren't having utopian dreams, we have lost our vision

The peek of the British empire was 1922

Before them Rome ruled all of it.

Egypt

Persia

Mongols

this is an old dream. A wish for evil men.

Not one person who as ever set out to do this has ever done it for the greater good.

Now they use the information age to make you think that YOU are doing it for the greater good.

When all you're doing is writing them a check to do whatever they want (kill civilians and force everyone to submit).

[Encroaching Death]

They usually don’t need to, they only appeal to a single identity. Maybe they should consider it.

I feel like I see attempts at it every MLK day, but everyone knows that’s a bunch of crap.

The single identity: American

Something that includes everyone and excludes none.

Republicans are the real inclusive party :cool:

[Jibartik]

We have to define things like a leftist first before we have a conversation about it

Patriotic = anything I like
Democracy = I can do anything I want

Hmm

Define patriot:

a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

nationist:

a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

So the difference here is that the patriot will fight enemies of the country they support.

While a nationalist someone who will fight to support the interests of their own identity.

This is why it has the stigma of racism. Saying you like the nuclear family, (maga) for example, suddenly all the awful shit HAS to go with it.

Like people cant say, "I like when we were a nicer country of people who were polite to eachother and we made family our priority, church bla bla, This is who I am, this is who I want to be"

A patriot is like, "Oh you racist, you want to destroy all religion but your own, because in the old days people were also pretty shitty, so that means you want all of that, BOOO racist BOOO"

Then the patriot is like, "I hate my country, and my countryman, I want to destroy them, but also we must be strong to protect our "democracY!" I do not care about the people, the GOVERMENT! is what we must protect!"

bla bla bla

[unsunghero]

Thats what I mean, tate is a gigantic piece of shit.

Now talk about how epstien (another piece of shit) had some good ideas is what I meant :o

Some times the good ideas of someone are not really valuble, becuase most of those good ideas are common sense lol

like being into young woman, sure that seems like common sense, but that is a young guy too, physically, and mentally.

Some people might not even be remotely attracted to a female body, and are looking to procreate with the genetics that will make them strong, intelligent children too.

It's mysogonistic to say all men like 22 year olds instead of 26 year olds because tate is a mysogonist, and he is applying his logic to the entire male/female species.

Oh I can’t speak to Epstein because I have never heard anything he’s said, only heard about what he’s done

And yea when I mentioned biological attraction I’m speaking in generalities. Attraction is an interesting thing, and there’s all sorts of weird stuff some people can be extremely attracted to. For example there’s people that are most attracted to BBW, or amputees, or girls that are extremely attracted to men in prison for murder, all sorts of weird shit

But speaking in generalities, humans were programmed to be in the best position for our species to survive. For that men were attracted to fertile women and women to men who could protect/provide for a future family

[magnetaress]

Wages are low because cheeper labor exists in other economies. A one world government would solve this problem by making all economies shitty so that we as a species would have to reconcile how shitty we are and do better.

Also I am pretty sure that we all can agree government sucks and its the reason it's shitty everywhere.

[Jibartik]

But speaking in generalities, humans were programmed to be in the best position for our species to survive. For that men were attracted to fertile women and women to men who could protect/provide for a future family

a monkey will hump a male it doesn't care, it will hump anything.

[magnetaress]

Yep.

[magnetaress]

Animals maturbate and groom excessively when they are stressed board and isolated doesn't even need another male or external stimulus.

[Reiwa]

Hmm

Define patriot:

a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

nationist:

a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

So the difference here is that the patriot will fight enemies of the country they support.

While a nationalist someone who will fight to support the interests of their own identity.

This is why it has the stigma of racism. Saying you like the nuclear family, (maga) for example, suddenly all the awful shit HAS to go with it.

Like people cant say, "I like when we were a nicer country of people who were polite to eachother and we made family our priority, church bla bla, This is who I am, this is who I want to be"

A patriot is like, "Oh you racist, you want to destroy all religion but your own, because in the old days people were also pretty shitty, so that means you want all of that, BOOO racist BOOO"

Then the patriot is like, "I hate my country, and my countryman, I want to destroy them, but also we must be strong to protect our "democracY!" I do not care about the people, the GOVERMENT! is what we must protect!"

bla bla bla

I only asked as a pretext to post a meme I found in my bookmarks. :o

https://i.imgur.com/0E4ea66.jpg

[magnetaress]

I only asked as a pretext to post a meme I found in my bookmarks. :o

https://i.imgur.com/0E4ea66.jpg

Reiwa the rebell.

[Reiwa]

Reiwa the rebell.

Technically a bowtie so I'll take the L and be quiet for awhile.

[Encroaching Death]

https://i.imgur.com/0E4ea66.jpg

There's a happy medium somewhere.

When your country's religion is money, it can be taken advantage of.

Politicians and the Elite would sell us out in a second. Literally. If they literally sell citizens to China, they would.

[magnetaress]

There's a happy medium somewhere.

When your country's religion is money, it can be taken advantage of.

Politicians and the Elite would sell us out in a second. Literally. If they literally sell citizens to China, they would.

They did. Already. Truth spoken.

Not all of us tho.

Be strong.

Be independent.

Be wise. Use the system against itself. Use the opportunity access to Chinese markets affords you.