the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

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Speaking of this, El Paso Texas has gotten 60,000 doctors, lawyers, and scientists entering from Central America from April to September 2022

The most doctors, lawyers, and scientists they got in a single week was 11,000

Juuuust about ready to declare a state of emergency. Maybe wait until after the midterms tho amirite

[unsunghero]

When you look at it, fentanyl OD’s are just population control

Eugenics! Wipe out the weak for the greater good

“For the greater good”

[Basanos]

Hey unsunghero are you in support of a universal healthcare program, or public option of some kind, in American healthcare?

[unsunghero]

Hey unsunghero are you in support of a universal healthcare program, or public option of some kind, in American healthcare?

If it was financially feasible it seems like a winner. I’d have to check in on places like UK that have implemented it on their negatives to see if those haven’t increased, the worst I’ve heard being long long waits for certain procedures but nothing near the negatives of our current system

But the financially feasible part is a big qualifier tho too

[l0053g0053]

I have lots of family in Canada and if its anything life threatening they come to the USA for medical issues. Routine stuff they wait for. My Aunt had a growth on her toe, and one year later she got the specialist appointment, and six months later it was removed. Not too bad for superficial stuff.

I would rather have single payer than Obama care. I never bought health care, or paid a fine, since it was unconstitutional and never enforced. DO THIS OR ELSE, great policy!

TORONTO (AP) — Alan Nichols had a history of depression and other medical issues, but none were life-threatening. When the 61-year-old Canadian was hospitalized in June 2019 over fears he might be suicidal, he asked his brother to “bust him out” as soon as possible.

Within a month, Nichols submitted a request to be euthanized and he was killed, despite concerns raised by his family and a nurse practitioner.

His application for euthanasia listed only one health condition as the reason for his request to die: hearing loss.

Nichols’ family reported the case to police and health authorities, arguing that he lacked the capacity to understand the process and was not suffering unbearably — among the requirements for euthanasia. They say he was not taking needed medication, wasn’t using the cochlear implant that helped him hear, and that hospital staffers improperly helped him request euthanasia.

“Alan was basically put to death,” his brother Gary Nichols said.

https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867

[Basanos]

If it was financially feasible it seems like a winner. I’d have to check in on places like UK that have implemented it on their negatives to see if those haven’t increased, the worst I’ve heard being long long waits for certain procedures but nothing near the negatives of our current system

But the financially feasible part is a big qualifier tho tooA fair answer.

I like to accuse those that oppose it of supporting eugenics, it opens the correct doors

are you saying the reason a narcotics addict takes drugs is out of some pro-eugenics stance?

I am pretty sure most of them are just chasing the dragon

If you were implying whoever laces heroin with fent is actually working for some government program... well... there is a precedent for that...

[unsunghero]

A fair answer.

I like to accuse those that oppose it of supporting eugenics, it opens the correct doors

are you saying the reason a narcotics addict takes drugs is out of some pro-eugenics stance?

I am pretty sure most of them are just chasing the dragon

If you were implying whoever laces heroin with fent is actually working for some government program... well... there is a precedent for that...

I don’t think it’s as much laced as it is simply unregulated. The amount of actual medication in most prescription medications is almost microscopic, the rest of the “pill” is just safe filler ingredients to make it large enough to pick up with one’s hand

This is sort of the same for fentanyl pills, except the filler ingredients probably aren’t safe and the amount of medication is random. Might be very little, might be a shitload, it’s not regulated in any way

People also tend to OD following bouts of sobriety. They take a long break, their tolerance goes back down, they relapse and take the amount they were taking with high tolerance, and it kills them. That’s how actor Phillip Seymour Hoffman died

Note: this is not a call to regulate and distribute recreational fentanyl tho

I just call it eugenics because that is the fatalist-viewpoint result. But the reason like you were saying is chasing the dragon

[Basanos]

I think that's part of the idea with the needle centers or whatever they were, which some conservatives and many liberals were quite opposed to

If you accept that some people are addicts, and maybe it's nature, maybe it's nurture, maybe it's both... the idea is to make it safer for them to avoid that fatal OD.

Do those needle clinics reduce the total number of addicts? I don't know

All I could think of when I saw the criticism is "stick and carrot"

[unsunghero]

I think that's part of the idea with the needle centers or whatever they were, which some conservatives and many liberals were quite opposed to

If you accept that some people are addicts, and maybe it's nature, maybe it's nurture, maybe it's both... the idea is to make it safer for them to avoid that fatal OD.

Do those needle clinics reduce the total number of addicts? I don't know

All I could think of when I saw the criticism is "stick and carrot"

Needle clinics have the assumption that the user is going to use, and therefore if that is a given, then the user has 2 options: 1. A dirty needle they are sharing with others, or 2. A clean needle

Using a dirty needle, especially with a drug like meth, means pushing bacteria directly into your bloodstream while flooding your body with a drug that suppresses your immune system’s ability to fight infection more strongly than any other. No drug suppresses the immune system’s infection-fighting like meth, which is why meth and MRSA/staph are so common together

The result is a life-threatening and extremely expensive hospitalization. The ones I’ve seen in my job numerous times the bacteria destroyed parts of people’s hearts and they required heart surgery and valves put in and stuff. These are almost always unemployed addicts, so the state Medicaid insurance foots the $500,000+ bill for that

So it’s to prevent that suffering for the addict but moreso to save the state money. I don’t have a huge problem with them but I can understand how people would see it as enabling

[Basanos]

I understand that, but I want to flip the argument around.

The math would presumably change if the bill wasn't 500k, right? Why does treatment cost 500k in the first place? That number isn't that high for that procedure everywhere.

For context, so far, we are up to $885,000 billed to insurance since June and climbing, but the portion of that we do have to pay does not make me want to punish the poor folks who don't have the means that I do. (Not that I am implying this is what you are saying, just teasing it all out)

It makes me want a better total system. None of this shit should cost this much

[Jibartik]

Kanye seems mentally ill and doesn't seem to understand the world around him anymore

Black person makes billions, acts the same as any opther excentric billionare (see rockafeller, elon, virgin records, you name it)

But "non racist" white leftists, make sure to remind you that "he is a lesser human" and "mentally ill"

for acting white, and being extraordinarily successful, but havnig black skin.

he's right..

why is it everyone is so quick to remind you he is mentally ill and wrong?

why is it when elon says shit, theyre like, he's jsut excentric asshole.

Not a mentally ill lunatic?

Because unconscious BIAS thats why.

[MrSparkle001]

Hey unsunghero are you in support of a universal healthcare program, or public option of some kind, in American healthcare?

In theory it's a great idea but we would be shouldering a burden of like 20% sales tax to pay for it, and we would lose a lot of medical practitioners that would stop practicing if their pay was dictated solely by the government. Medicare and medicaid do not reimburse very well and that's basically what universal healthcare would be.

Something needs to be done though.

[Jibartik]

The left when they hear kanye:

Hmm, he's not 'well spoken' so.. subhuman.

That reminds me of a really racist persons thought process.

[Basanos]

we would lose a lot of medical practitioners that would stop practicing if their pay was dictated solely by the government.Do you have any study or information to corroborate this? I can imagine if I made 500k/y in the private sector and then the govt said I am a public employee now and I make 85k/y I may be a little resentful

But at the same time, we're bailing out students due to predatory capitalism... why not something similar for doctors?

[Jibartik]

Fuck american docotrs let them quit Id love to see them live a month without their benzo's

They fired more than half the nurses, why stop there.

[Horza]

Black person makes billions, acts the same as any opther excentric billionare (see rockafeller, elon, virgin records, you name it)

But "non racist" white leftists, make sure to remind you that "he is a lesser human" and "mentally ill"

for acting white, and being extraordinarily successful, but havnig black skin.

he's right..

why is it everyone is so quick to remind you he is mentally ill and wrong?

why is it when elon says shit, theyre like, he's jsut excentric asshole.

Not a mentally ill lunatic?

Because unconscious BIAS thats why.

Based on his recent comments about the war in Ukraine, Musk doesn't seem to be so much an eccentric as just another poor sucker suffering from Fox News brain poisoning like the rest of you lot.

[Reiwa]

Needle clinics have the assumption that the user is going to use, and therefore if that is a given, then the user has 2 options: 1. A dirty needle they are sharing with others, or 2. A clean needle

Using a dirty needle, especially with a drug like meth, means pushing bacteria directly into your bloodstream while flooding your body with a drug that suppresses your immune system’s ability to fight infection more strongly than any other. No drug suppresses the immune system’s infection-fighting like meth, which is why meth and MRSA/staph are so common together

The result is a life-threatening and extremely expensive hospitalization. The ones I’ve seen in my job numerous times the bacteria destroyed parts of people’s hearts and they required heart surgery and valves put in and stuff. These are almost always unemployed addicts, so the state Medicaid insurance foots the $500,000+ bill for that

So it’s to prevent that suffering for the addict but moreso to save the state money. I don’t have a huge problem with them but I can understand how people would see it as enabling

Typhus(et al.) prevention is another common justification for state sponsored drug abuse sites.

[MrSparkle001]

Do you have any study or information to corroborate this? I can imagine if I made 500k/y in the private sector and then the govt said I am a public employee now and I make 85k/y I may be a little resentful

But at the same time, we're bailing out students due to predatory capitalism... why not something similar for doctors?

It's been a while since I read about it so no I don't have the source.

All I know for sure is the current system of for-profit insurance being in control of healthcare is not working for anyone but the fairly affluent, and that's not sustainable.

And I wouldn't necessarily call student loans predatory. Sure some are but it's the fact that higher education costs too damned much that is the problem. Again, for-profit. It's all about the almighty dollar.

[unsunghero]

Based on his recent comments about the war in Ukraine, Musk doesn't seem to be so much an eccentric as just another poor sucker suffering from Fox News brain poisoning like the rest of you lot.

This is the ̶S̶o̶n̶g̶ war that never ends.
It just goes on and on, my friend.
Some people started ̶S̶i̶n̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ warring it, not knowing what it was.
And, they’ll continue ̶S̶i̶n̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ warring it forever, just because
This is the ̶S̶o̶n̶g̶ war that never ends…

(repeat forever)

[Reiwa]

Black person makes billions, acts the same as any opther excentric billionare (see rockafeller, elon, virgin records, you name it)

But "non racist" white leftists, make sure to remind you that "he is a lesser human" and "mentally ill"

for acting white, and being extraordinarily successful, but havnig black skin.

he's right..

why is it everyone is so quick to remind you he is mentally ill and wrong?

why is it when elon says shit, theyre like, he's jsut excentric asshole.

Not a mentally ill lunatic?

Because unconscious BIAS thats why.

His jacket looked jizz stained, that's a redflag for mental health issues.

[Jibartik]

*sells 70 million jackets that look jizz stained to liberals around the world.

Liberals: "kAnYE is MenTAllY iLL!"

[Horza]

This is the ̶S̶o̶n̶g̶ war that never ends.
It just goes on and on, my friend.
Some people started ̶S̶i̶n̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ warring it, not knowing what it was.
And, they’ll continue ̶S̶i̶n̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ warring it forever, just because
This is the ̶S̶o̶n̶g̶ war that never ends…

(repeat forever)

If only Biden had kissed the ring and threatened to break up NATO just like your obese messianic figure.

[Reiwa]

But at the same time, we're bailing out students due to predatory capitalism... why not something similar for doctors?

I swear there is exactly a federal program like this where you agree to doctor where and for how much they tell you to upon graduation for like 3-5 years and a bunch of your loans get written off. But I think few take it because it's a worse deal than doing it the regular way. And no I don't mean the military.

@Danth?

[unsunghero]

Fairly certain Kanye is diagnosed bi-polar tho

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/JgkUL5y8unM

[unsunghero]

If only Biden had kissed the ring and threatened to break up NATO just like your obese messianic figure.

Do you think after another 5 years of war we’ll have a de-militarized zone between Ukraine and Russia where no human can go?

I wonder how much money we’ll have given Ukraine by then to not win

The only thing we can guarantee is that they hate each other until the end of time ALMOST as much as north and South Korea and Israel/Palestine does

Almost but not quite

[Jibartik]

Fairly certain Kanye is diagnosed bi-polar tho

It's important that we constantly remind everyone that he is mentally ill not that all successful tycoons are.

It's like watching the TSA randomly select a Persian at the airport.

[unsunghero]

It's important that we constantly remind everyone that he is mentally ill not that all successful tycoons are.

I call crazy people crazy all the time, usually people much crazier than Kanye bough

But I don’t pretend to be a bleeding heart anti-ableist like lefties do

[Jibartik]

I call crazy people crazy all the time, usually people much crazier than Kanye bough

But I don’t pretend to be a bleeding heart ableist like lefties do

Yeah, I dont expect you to see the nuance here, but I do expect the people that believe in unconscious bias and systematic racism to.

Because I believe in those things, and I know it when I see it.

[Rethalis]

The uproar on kayne is hilarious and was the point that shows the left cares deeply about skin color.

[unsunghero]

Yeah, I dont expect you to see the nuance here, but I do expect the people that believe in unconscious bias and systematic racism to.

Because I believe in those things, and I know it when I see it.

No I smell what you’re stepping in

“It’s ok when we do it”

[Jibartik]

Makes me sad.

[Horza]

Do you think after another 5 years of war we’ll have a de-militarized zone between Ukraine and Russia where no human can go?

I wonder how much money we’ll have given Ukraine by then to not win

The only thing we can guarantee is that they hate each other until the end of time ALMOST as much as north and South Korea and Israel/Palestine does

Almost but not quite

I'm not even that old, but even I can remember when conservatives in this country weren't all just slobbering authoritarian bootlickers.

[unsunghero]

Kanye was supposedly spouting all this anti-Semitic conspiracy stuff

Is there even a word for anti-Christian sentiment? I don’t think there is. At least not a term I’ve heard of

That just shows how completely socially acceptable it is to shit on Christians but not any other religion, all the others have cute little terms like Islamaphobia

I guess it’s a compliment to be loosely-associated with what everyone sees as the most powerful religion in the world, one that needs no protection

[Reiwa]

Is there even a word for anti-Christian sentiment?

The name is the recipe.

anti-Christ-ian.

[unsunghero]

I'm not even that old, but even I can remember when conservatives in this country weren't all just slobbering authoritarian bootlickers.

You misunderstand me sir

I am completely for continuing to throw funds into the money pit forever so they can fight over the rubble

[Jibartik]

I'm not even that old, but even I can remember when conservatives in this country weren't all just slobbering authoritarian bootlickers.

Weren't you the one just talking about how everyone dying in world war is worth NATO?

[MrSparkle001]

I swear there is exactly a federal program like this where you agree to doctor where and for how much they tell you to upon graduation for like 3-5 years and a bunch of your loans get written off. But I think few take it because it's a worse deal than doing it the regular way. And no I don't mean the military.

@Danth?

It does sound familiar, and I found this https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/student-loans/medical-school-loan-forgiveness-programs

The thing is I think the really good doctors don't bother with any of that because like you said it's a worse deal than doing it the regular way. Some doctors may be in it because they generally want to help the public, but a lot of them are chasing that fat bank account.

What do you call a person that got all C's in medical school? Doctor. Or something like that.

[unsunghero]

The name is the recipe.

anti-Christ-ian.

[Jibartik]

It does sound familiar, and I found this https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/student-loans/medical-school-loan-forgiveness-programs

The thing is I think the really good doctors don't bother with any of that because like you said it's a worse deal than doing it the regular way. Some doctors may be in it because they generally want to help the public, but a lot of them are chasing that fat bank account.

What do call a person that graduated medical school with all C's? Doctor. Or something like that.

When you get a 60k doctors bill, the doctor see's about 4% of that, and the hospital and insurance companies see the rest.

[MrSparkle001]

When you get a 60k doctors bill, the doctor see's about 4% of that, and the hospital and insurance companies see the rest.

Yeah it's bad. Insurance companies are in complete control and prices are so ridiculously high because of it it's laughable.

Try to tell that to the shareholders though.

[unsunghero]

Hike time bbl

[magnetaress]

Needle clinics have the assumption that the user is going to use, and therefore if that is a given, then the user has 2 options: 1. A dirty needle they are sharing with others, or 2. A clean needle

Using a dirty needle, especially with a drug like meth, means pushing bacteria directly into your bloodstream while flooding your body with a drug that suppresses your immune system’s ability to fight infection more strongly than any other. No drug suppresses the immune system’s infection-fighting like meth, which is why meth and MRSA/staph are so common together

The result is a life-threatening and extremely expensive hospitalization. The ones I’ve seen in my job numerous times the bacteria destroyed parts of people’s hearts and they required heart surgery and valves put in and stuff. These are almost always unemployed addicts, so the state Medicaid insurance foots the $500,000+ bill for that

So it’s to prevent that suffering for the addict but moreso to save the state money. I don’t have a huge problem with them but I can understand how people would see it as enabling

Just give them more fentanyl until the pain stops entirely.

Why are we forcing these people to live? Why do they deserve to live when so many honest hardworking abled folk struggle to live.

If the doctor read my chart and said---- hey buddy it looks like you have an addiction, three suicide attempts, 6 psychiatric hospitalizations, and have been unemployed for a decade. It's time to go.

I'd be like yes, man no shit.

Why are humans so fucking bad at this?

[l0053g0053]

"First, do no harm"

You could have situations, like " White coat syndrome " Where someone does not make the correct decision.

I think assisted suicide is OK, but it should require a year of observation and multiple clarification results and potentially a third witness to allow.

https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/1X/f800da3ad60b1bebe3af8c86e6bfea48dbdbc639.jpeg

[magnetaress]

"First, do no harm"

You could have situations, like " White coat syndrome " Where someone does not make the correct decision.

I think assisted suicide is OK, but it should require a year of observation and multiple clarification results and potentially a third witness to allow.

https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/1X/f800da3ad60b1bebe3af8c86e6bfea48dbdbc639.jpeg

Yeah butt u don't make drs really decide.

Criminalize negligence and addiction. Dr reads chart and refers patients to the police. Police administer OD to resolve threats to public and property. They do it with guns alllllll the time. Fentanyl is way nicer.. dr did no harm.

The biggest issue is public rights...like make every thing sovereign property no rights unless u own said property U can then make decisions about life and liberty on said property.

[l0053g0053]

Yeah butt u don't make drs really decide.

Criminalize negligence and addiction. Dr reads chart and refers patients to the police. Police administer OD to resolve threats to public and property. They do it with guns alllllll the time. Fentanyl is way nicer.. dr did no harm.

The biggest issue is public rights...like make every thing sovereign property no rights unless u own said property U can then make decisions about life and liberty on said property.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcSgcXbWkAYyqr-?format=jpg&name=large

[magnetaress]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcSgcXbWkAYyqr-?format=jpg&name=large

I love the cardassians. Srsly good peepls. Unfortunately they have their fair share of idiots like Ducat too. :(

And yes that's the clerk who felt guilty sad...

[magnetaress]

I mean...

https://i.imgur.com/ji0dbq9.jpeg

*cringe*

[magnetaress]

Straight to criminal processing...https://www.wfla.com/news/local-news/photos-tampa-police-find-litter-of-puppies-stuffed-in-suitcase/amp/

Like the human race...is like....

How even?

Also the entire block should have been pacified. And the puppies put down.

Or like deported.

[Basanos]

Just give them more fentanyl until the pain stops entirely.

Why are we forcing these people to live? Why do they deserve to live when so many honest hardworking abled folk struggle to live.

If the doctor read my chart and said---- hey buddy it looks like you have an addiction, three suicide attempts, 6 psychiatric hospitalizations, and have been unemployed for a decade. It's time to go.

I'd be like yes, man no shit.

Why are humans so fucking bad at this?This is like when you see Elon Musk just making shit up about communism on Twitter and arguing against that

I am sorry that you have had troubles, but I can't get on board with mass executions of the mentally ill. That is literally Nazi stuff.

[magnetaress]

This is like when you see Elon Musk just making shit up about communism on Twitter and arguing against that

I am sorry that you have had troubles, but I can't get on board with mass executions of the mentally ill. That is literally Nazi stuff.

So politicians make fentanyl illegal and pat themselves on the back for being good guys while a black market forms and literally a billion ppl have suffered horrifically by now.

------

These souls will never find peace and they will roam the earth causing more illness and disease and insanity until the earth finally dies or humans return to an honest way of living without big governments and science and laws.

[Reiwa]

Bowtie Man sez (https://www.marshallnewsmessenger.com/yes-washington-state-is-deep-blue-but-a-senate-shocker-could-be-brewing/article_3c275936-4b64-11ed-a369-1fa4ae7bd7ef.html)

Yes, Washington state is deep blue, but a Senate shocker could be brewing

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/djournal.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/bf/ebfa1894-b151-5a7a-9d4a-86206f543be9/5db8ff0a53ea9.image.jpg?resize=398%2C500

[Ooloo]

Wait what did elon musk make up about communism? You don't have to make anything up, you only have to read the diaries of people who lived under it or, ya know, a history book.

It's astonishing how fast elon musk became persona non grata after espousing even one unorthodox thought according to the left. They're all still driving his insanely well made and highly performing electric cars around, but he strayed from the plantation so I guess he sucks now? Is this really how simple people's minds are?

[Jibartik]

What elon did for the environment, all the left could group themselves together, and still fall short of.

[magnetaress]

Wait what did elon musk make up about communism? You don't have to make anything up, you only have to read the diaries of people who lived under it or, ya know, a history book.

It's astonishing how fast elon musk became persona non grata after espousing even one unorthodox thought according to the left. They're all still driving his insanely well made and highly performing electric cars around, but he strayed from the plantation so I guess he sucks now? Is this really how simple people's minds are?

More simple.

[Jibartik]

How do you do polls?

Poll:

A. Trump Piss Tape is real?
B. Frazzledrip video (hillary cutting the face off a young girl and drinking her blood) is real?
C. Both are real.

[unsunghero]

Of course it reduced inflation! It’s right there in the name!

[Basanos]

Wait what did elon musk make up about communism? You don't have to make anything up, you only have to read the diaries of people who lived under it or, ya know, a history book.

It's astonishing how fast elon musk became persona non grata after espousing even one unorthodox thought according to the left. They're all still driving his insanely well made and highly performing electric cars around, but he strayed from the plantation so I guess he sucks now? Is this really how simple people's minds are?I've despised Elon and all other billionaires for years

Speaking of simple minds, "all leftists drive teslas" lol

Once again, Ooloo does in his post the very thing he's whining about

[Ooloo]

I've despised Elon and all other billionaires for years

Speaking of simple minds, "all leftists drive teslas" lol

Once again, Ooloo does in his post the very thing he's whining about

Hating rich people just for being rich is retarded though. It's just blatant envy if you have no other metric than "you're rich so you're bad". Rich people probably gave you everything you have, it's how we are currently talking on this forum about everquest which is a game that wouldn't exist without rich people. Have some gratitude my man.

I mean, AOC is crazily more rich than I am, for doing what exactly? Being an attractive bimbo who fell ass backward into government? I find her wealth wayyyyyyyy more offensive than elon musk's, who is doing more to actually reduce net carbon emissions than anyone else ever. Yet you have a problem with the latter?

[Basanos]

Hating rich people just for being rich is retarded though. It's just blatant envy if you have no other metric than "you're rich so you're bad". Rich people probably gave you everything you have, it's how we are currently talking on this forum about everquest which is a game that wouldn't exist without rich people. Have some gratitude my man.I desperately hope Elon posts here so that he sees your bootlicking, at least then someone might respect you since you certainly don't

[Horza]

How do you do polls?

Poll:

A. Trump Piss Tape is real?
B. Frazzledrip video (hillary cutting the face off a young girl and drinking her blood) is real?
C. Both are real.

Hillary isn't starring in the new Blade reboot, no matter how much you Trumptards all want to travel back in time to when your obese messianic figure wasn't a laughingstock.

[Ooloo]

Ok so, still no specific figure as it pertains to how much money you're allowed to make before you become an evil rich guy? Got it!

[Basanos]

They're not all guys, Ooloo, don't be sexist

[Kaveh]

Hillary isn't starring in the new Blade reboot, no matter how much you Trumptards all want to travel back in time to when your obese messianic figure wasn't a laughingstock.

Don’t bring blade into this

[Kaveh]

Hating rich people just for being rich is retarded though. It's just blatant envy if you have no other metric than "you're rich so you're bad". Rich people probably gave you everything you have, it's how we are currently talking on this forum about everquest which is a game that wouldn't exist without rich people. Have some gratitude my man.

I mean, AOC is crazily more rich than I am, for doing what exactly? Being an attractive bimbo who fell ass backward into government? I find her wealth wayyyyyyyy more offensive than elon musk's, who is doing more to actually reduce net carbon emissions than anyone else ever. Yet you have a problem with the latter?

AOC is poor man, Sikh Christ

[Basanos]

The unprompted AOC attractiveness reference, he thinks I am gonna defend an elected official

https://dosequis.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/lagerPackType-bottle.png

[Ooloo]

That's a great picture of a beer.

Here's a video of elon musk being an evil rich man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ux6B3bvO0w

[Danth]

Ok so, still no specific figure as it pertains to how much money you're allowed to make before you become an evil rich guy? Got it!

There isn't going to be a convenient individual figure and you know it. However, it's also well-understood that excessive concentration of wealth does very bad things to a nation's economy. The nation's prosperity depends on having a large and relatively affluent middle-class who can afford significant spending and drive national-level demand in a way a small ultra-wealthy elite cannot.

[Basanos]

That's a great picture of a beer.

Here's a video of elon musk being an evil rich man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ux6B3bvO0wCongratulations on this not being a Matt Walsh video

I am familiar with SpaceX and youtube propaganda already, I don't need to see whatever vanity programs he's laundering his reputation through to oppose him

[hobart]

That's a great picture of a beer.

Here's a video of elon musk being an evil rich man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ux6B3bvO0w

What is he then really?

[Reiwa]

There isn't going to be a convenient individual figure and you know it. However, it's also well-understood that excessive concentration of wealth does very bad things to a nation's economy. The nation's prosperity depends on having a large and relatively affluent middle-class who can afford significant spending and drive national-level demand in a way a small ultra-wealthy elite cannot.

Grotesquely wealthy people in America in current year are smoke and mirrors. What's going on is we started measuring their stock value and gains as their wealth and income so we could get ignorant people on board with stealing it, or a good portion of it.

That they're allowed and encouraged to take loans against said illusion for liquidity is the real monster.

*cracks a Miller* Ayup.

[Jibartik]

So, like, you'd be suprised how many 10-100 millionares there are.

They basically exist among us like vampires.

I mean like, basically every athlete is now. Every entertainer...

All the people that influence peoples thoughts in this country.

[Reiwa]

So, like, you'd be suprised how many 10-100 millionares there are.

They basically exist among us like vampires.

I mean like, basically every athlete is now. Every entertainer...

All the people that influence peoples thoughts in this country.

At least we have a nice little bubble (https://earthdawn.fandom.com/wiki/Kaer) going on here.

[Jibartik]

The question is can our ultra rich elite keep the economy afloat long enough for the middle class to want to go back to work.

[Jibartik]

"mister president? Oh!"

cJC6WGnyV5o

[Elizondo]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3698933-clyburn-wont-say-whether-biden-should-run-again-until-after-midterms/

Clyburn won’t say whether Biden should run again until after midterms

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — House Majority Whip James Clyburn (S.C.), the third-ranking member of the House Democratic leadership, says he’s not commenting on whether President Biden should run for reelection until he sees the results of the Nov. 8 midterm elections.

[Basanos]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3698933-clyburn-wont-say-whether-biden-should-run-again-until-after-midterms/triggered

[Elizondo]

triggered

How so?

[Basanos]

the 82 year old man is waiting to see which way the wind blows

take that to the town cryer

[Jibartik]

Its always good to have a leader that follows the direction of the breeze.

[Kaveh]

So, like, you'd be suprised how many 10-100 millionares there are.

They basically exist among us like vampires.

I mean like, basically every athlete is now. Every entertainer...

All the people that influence peoples thoughts in this country.

10-100 million you say? Vampires? I prefer daywalker

[Kaveh]

the 82 year old man is waiting to see which way the wind blows

take that to the town cryer

Who is your avatar …

[Elizondo]

the 82 year old man is waiting to see which way the wind blows

take that to the town cryer

It's a little more complex than that but whatever makes you feel better

[Reiwa]

It's a little more complex than that but whatever makes you feel better

Clyburn is important because he gave Biden the south in the primary? CBC

[Basanos]

Who is your avatar …no idea i just like the idea of burger head, as i recently became bald myself

[Reiwa]

no idea i just like the idea of burger head, as i recently became bald myself

https://pics.me.me/when-you-hear-calvinists-talking-about-predestination-and-the-sovereignty-39963037.png

[unsunghero]

no idea i just like the idea of burger head, as i recently became bald myself

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/X8maxa6.png

https://i.imgur.com/HBAYt1i.gif

https://i.imgur.com/i0diJph.gif

https://i.imgur.com/19EwFZU.gif

[unsunghero]

“We’re more gay4pay than you could ever be”

— Microsoft

[unsunghero]

Microsoft:

[unsunghero]

…

[Basanos]

https://i.imgur.com/exYJTVL.jpeg

[Basanos]

I have long thought that the extreme right wing positions of the modern American conservative were a knee-jerk reaction to the forces whipped up by the information age. This is a person that would incarcerate or kill a person like me, but it is an interesting and chilling read for people like me who live inside the skulls of conservatives. I call people like this fascists.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/


We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives
BY: JOHN DANIEL DAVIDSON
OCTOBER 20, 2022
9 MIN READ

Given the state of America in 2022, conservatives should stop calling themselves conservatives.

Why? Because the conservative project has largely failed, and it is time for a new approach. Conservatives have long defined their politics in terms of what they wish to conserve or preserve — individual rights, family values, religious freedom, and so on. Conservatives, we are told, want to preserve the rich traditions and civilizational achievements of the past, pass them on to the next generation, and defend them from the left. In America, conservatives and classical liberals alike rightly believe an ascendent left wants to dismantle our constitutional system and transform America into a woke dystopia. The task of conservatives, going back many decades now, has been to stop them.


In an earlier era, this made sense. There was much to conserve. But any honest appraisal of our situation today renders such a definition absurd. After all, what have conservatives succeeded in conserving? In just my lifetime, they have lost much: marriage as it has been understood for thousands of years, the First Amendment, any semblance of control over our borders, a fundamental distinction between men and women, and, especially of late, the basic rule of law.

Calling oneself a conservative in today’s political climate would be like saying one is a conservative because one wants to preserve the medieval European traditions of arranged marriage and trial by combat. Whatever the merits of those practices, you cannot preserve or defend something that is dead. Perhaps you can retain a memory of it or knowledge of it. But that is not what conservatism was purportedly about. It was about maintaining traditions and preserving Western civilization as a living and vibrant thing.

Well, too late. Western civilization is dying. The traditions and practices that conservatives champion are, at best, being preserved only in an ever-shrinking private sphere. At worst, they are being trampled to dust. They certainly do not form the basis of our common culture or civic life, as they did for most of our nation’s history.

To talk now of “family values” is to assume that there are enough Americans able and willing to marry and raise children together for something like “family values” to matter in the public discourse, much less in the halls of power. To talk of defending “religious freedom” is to misapprehend that the real risk today is widespread irreligion, which will leave so few religious Americans in the coming generations that the government and large corporations will inevitably — and easily — persecute them.


Conservatives are still invoking these things as if they are magic incantations that can roll back time, just as they did during the crucial decades of the past half-century when a cultural and technological revolution was re-making America before their eyes, and they did nothing to stop it.

In a recent essay for Compact, Jon Askonas argues convincingly that the conservative project failed because “it didn’t take into account the revolutionary principle of technology, and its intrinsic connection to the telos of sheer profit.” Conservatives, he says, were too obsessed with “left-wing revolutionary politics” and missed the real threat, which was technological change so swift and powerful it fundamentally reordered society, swept tradition aside, and unleashed a moral relativism that rendered the conservative project obsolete.

Instead of questioning these technologies, asking whether they would contribute to human flourishing, conservatives acquiesced to their inevitability and focused instead on narrower issues. The result has been the transformation of society within the span of a single human lifetime, and with it the wholesale destruction of our traditions and the looming implosion of Western civilization.

While it might be necessary, as Askonas argues, to enact a serious program of technological development to build a future that supports human flourishing, it is also the case that to do so on a scale sufficient to save our country will require political power — and the willingness to use it.


So what kind of politics should conservatives today, as inheritors of a failed movement, adopt? For starters, they should stop thinking of themselves as conservatives (much less as Republicans) and start thinking of themselves as radicals, restorationists, and counterrevolutionaries. Indeed, that is what they are, whether they embrace those labels or not.

They might, looking to American history for inspiration, conjure up the image of the Pilgrims — those iron-willed and audacious Christians who refused to accept the terms set by the mainstream of their time and set out to build something entirely new, to hew it out of the wilderness of the New World, even at great personal cost.

Or they might claim the mantle of revolutionaries, invoking the Founding Fathers’ view (or, at least, Thomas Jefferson’s) that periodic revolution to preserve liberty and civil society has always been and always will be necessary.

Whatever the term or image, the imperative that conservatives must break from the past and forge a new political identity cannot be overstated. It is time now for something new, for a new way of thinking and speaking about what conservative politics should be. The fusionism of past decades, in which conservatives made common cause with market-obsessed libertarians and foreign policy neocons, is finished. So too is Conservatism Inc. and the establishment GOP it enabled, whose first priority was always tax cuts for big business at the expense of everything else. The election of Donald Trump in 2016 heralded a populist wave and the end of Republican politics as we knew it, and now we are in uncharted waters.

To be sure, there has been plenty of talk on the right lately about what should be done differently now. Some, such as Sohrab Ahmari, Gladden Pappin, and Adrian Vermeule (along with a larger cohort of conservative Catholic thinkers), advocate a conservatism that is comfortable with big government and in fact sees it as necessary not only for the common good but to tame what Ahmari recently called the “private tyranny” of woke corporations empowered by unrestrained market forces. Conservative Catholics, he argues, should today claim ownership of a pro-worker, even pro-union political agenda that once belonged to the left, and which produced generations of Democrat-voting Catholic workers.

Indeed, a willingness to embrace government power has been a topic of fruitful debate on the “New Right” in recent years, as it should be. However uncomfortable traditional “small-government” conservatives might be with Ahmari’s argument, it is more or less true.

Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to rebuild and in a sense re-found it, and that means getting used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it. Why? Because accommodation or compromise with the left is impossible. One need only consider the speed with which the discourse shifted on gay marriage, from assuring conservatives ahead of the 2015 Obergefell decision that gay Americans were only asking for toleration, to the never-ending persecution of Jack Phillips.

The left will only stop when conservatives stop them, which means conservatives will have to discard outdated and irrelevant notions about “small government.” The government will have to become, in the hands of conservatives, an instrument of renewal in American life — and in some cases, a blunt instrument indeed.

To stop Big Tech, for example, will require using antitrust powers to break up the largest Silicon Valley firms. To stop universities from spreading poisonous ideologies will require state legislatures to starve them of public funds. To stop the disintegration of the family might require reversing the travesty of no-fault divorce, combined with generous subsidies for families with small children. Conservatives need not shy away from making these arguments because they betray some cherished libertarian fantasy about free markets and small government. It is time to clear our minds of cant.

In other contexts, wielding government power will mean a dramatic expansion of the criminal code. It will not be enough, for example, to reach an accommodation with the abortion regime, to agree on “reasonable limits” on when unborn human life can be snuffed out with impunity. As Abraham Lincoln once said of slavery, we must become all one thing or all the other. The Dobbs decision was in a sense the end of the beginning of the pro-life cause. Now comes the real fight, in state houses across the country, to outlaw completely the barbaric practice of killing the unborn.

Conservatives had better be ready for it, and Republican politicians, if they want to stay in office, had better have an answer ready when they are asked what reasonable limits to abortion restrictions they would support. The answer is: none, for the same reason they would not support reasonable limits to restrictions on premeditated murder.

On the transgender question, conservatives will have to repudiate utterly the cowardly position of people like David French, in whose malformed worldview Drag Queen Story Hour at a taxpayer-funded library is a “blessing of liberty.” Conservatives need to get comfortable saying in reply to people like French that Drag Queen Story Hour should be outlawed; that parents who take their kids to drag shows should be arrested and charged with child abuse; that doctors who perform so-called “gender-affirming” interventions should be thrown in prison and have their medical licenses revoked; and that teachers who expose their students to sexually explicit material should not just be fired but be criminally prosecuted.

If all that sounds radical, fine. It need not, at this late hour, dissuade conservatives in the least. Radicalism is precisely the approach needed now because the necessary task is nothing less than radical and revolutionary.

To those who worry that power corrupts, and that once the right seizes power it too will be corrupted, they certainly have a point. If conservatives manage to save the country and rebuild our institutions, will they ever relinquish power and go the way of Cincinnatus? It is a fair question, and we should attend to it with care after we have won the war.

For now, there are only two paths open to conservatives. Either they awake from decades of slumber to reclaim and re-found what has been lost, or they will watch our civilization die. There is no third road.

[Reiwa]

I have long thought that the extreme right wing positions of the modern American conservative were a knee-jerk reaction to the forces whipped up by the information age. This is a person that would incarcerate or kill a person like me, but it is an interesting and chilling read for people like me who live inside the skulls of conservatives. I call people like this fascists.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/

Given the state of America in 2022, conservatives should stop calling themselves conservatives.

Why? Because the conservative project has largely failed, and it is time for a new approach.

It's pretty cool that there's a website attempting to outflank the federalist society from the right(while also borrowing credibility from the same? :confused:), but there's no need to read past the included quote as the conservative project had its greatest victory ever this past summer.

[Basanos]

Oh I guess they aren't the same thing. I do not normally read either, but I did that one. Seemed like a taste of things to come, to me. Or what they will do if the people roll over.

I very much doubt they will stop even if they get all of the things that they want, as this nut has outlined.

[Elizondo]

Great Article

Thanks for posting

[Basanos]

Great Article

Thanks for postingYou're welcome, riots work

[Reiwa]

You're welcome, riots work

The anti-trust idea got me thinking about progressive Republicans.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/President_Roosevelt_-_Pach_Bros_%28cropped%29.jpg

[Jibartik]

I have long thought that the extreme right wing positions of the modern American conservative were a knee-jerk reaction to the forces whipped up by the information age. This is a person that would incarcerate or kill a person like me, but it is an interesting and chilling read for people like me who live inside the skulls of conservatives. I call people like this fascists.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/

thats litreally how I feel about 100% of the libposters here.

So your post is just paranoia, not reality.

....Or civil war is around the corner.

Considering Ive never seen more political prison sentences, for both politicians, and citizens, in my life... I think its fair to say that it's around the corner.

[Horza]

thats litreally how I feel about 100% of the libposters here.

So your post is just paranoia, not reality.

....Or civil war is around the corner.

Considering Ive never seen more political prison sentences, for both politicians, and citizens, in my life... I think its fair to say that it's around the corner.

Imagine being dumb enough to think that millions are actually going to fight for the fat pedophile you worship and not just eat microwave dinners in front of their televisions while watching Tucker like they do every other night.

[Jibartik]

Imagine being dumb enough to think that millions are actually going to fight for the fat pedophile you worship and not just eat microwave dinners in front of their televisions while watching Tucker like they do every other night.

Millions are not even fighting in ww3 right now.

Wars require a much smaller # of the population thant he population, including civil wars.

Especially terror wars.

Which is waht civil war 2 will be.

Think: Ya'llqueda vs super dystopian government/police

With all of us being killed and arrested in the middle.

[Horza]

Millions are not even fighting in ww3 right now.

Wars require a much smaller # of the population thant he population, including civil wars.

Especially terror wars.

Which is waht civil war 2 will be.

Think: Ya'llqueda vs super dystopian government/police

With all of us being killed and arrested in the middle.

Sure, the next civil war in this country is going to be started by a bunch of diabetic senior citizens and you aren't just another delusional Trumptard who is still waiting for Reinstatement Day.

[Jibartik]

lol wtf you have been freaking about about domestic terror for 6 years and an insurrection for 2

Why the change of heart?

[Horza]

lol wtf you have been freaking about about domestic terror for 6 years and an insurrection for 2

Why the change of heart?

Crazy motherfuckers like you are going to keep shooting innocent people in grocery stores, historic black churches and other easy targets. Doesn't mean that you trailer trash are going to be able to manage a sustained campaign against the U.S. military.

[Reiwa]

lol wtf you have been freaking about about domestic terror for 6 years and an insurrection for 2

Why the change of heart?

We 'ad a wee bit o' the ultraviolence in yester stochastic summer of 2020.

Don't tell me you weren't worried.

[Jibartik]

Crazy motherfuckers like you are going to keep shooting innocent people in grocery stores, historic black churches and other easy targets. Doesn't mean that you trailer trash are going to be able to manage a sustained campaign against the U.S. military.

lol you post like Darrell Brooks defends himself in court.

[Jibartik]

We 'ad a wee bit o' the ultraviolence in yester stochastic summer of 2020.

Don't tell me you weren't worried.

Haha worried, or cheering like I was you watching a football game? :p

[Horza]

lol you post like Darrell Brooks defends himself in court.

lol your race war is never going to come no matter how bad you wish it would.

[Jibartik]

lol your race war is never going to come no matter how bad you wish it would.

This is you:

dhKmHrnKvcA

[Elizondo]

lol you post like Darrell Brooks defends himself in court.

19263

[Horza]

This is you:

dhKmHrnKvcA

I'm loving your confidence that millions are going to show up and fight for the guy who flew on Epstein's plane like a dozen times though, Jib. It's all about staying positive.

[Jibartik]

You're the one that thinks there was such thing as an insurrection.

[l0053g0053]

Why were they so scared?

https://i.ibb.co/XDW4z5Q/why-were-they-scared.jpg (https://ibb.co/MfghR1v)

[Jibartik]

Lol what is that a Terry Gilliam movie screen?

[l0053g0053]

*pretends to call someone*
Hello? Yes, I would like to report Civil war 2.0
Yes I can hold



https://i.ibb.co/ZY9867S/1665688693995-n-msnbc-brk-pelosi-reaction-221013-1920x1080-ijku8n.webp (https://ibb.co/JyZ7Rgq)

[Jibartik]

The left every day:

https://i.imgur.com/DUL9eTF.png

https://i.imgur.com/cQmwTeW.png

https://i.imgur.com/MvBiRLL.png

[unsunghero]

"Given the state of America in 2022, conservatives should stop calling themselves conservatives.

Why? Because the conservative project has largely failed, and it is time for a new approach. Conservatives have long defined their politics in terms of what they wish to conserve or preserve — individual rights, family values, religious freedom, and so on. Conservatives, we are told, want to preserve the rich traditions and civilizational achievements of the past, pass them on to the next generation, and defend them from the left. In America, conservatives and classical liberals alike rightly believe an ascendent left wants to dismantle our constitutional system and transform America into a woke dystopia. The task of conservatives, going back many decades now, has been to stop them.


In an earlier era, this made sense. There was much to conserve. But any honest appraisal of our situation today renders such a definition absurd. After all, what have conservatives succeeded in conserving? In just my lifetime, they have lost much: marriage as it has been understood for thousands of years, the First Amendment, any semblance of control over our borders, a fundamental distinction between men and women, and, especially of late, the basic rule of law.

Calling oneself a conservative in today’s political climate would be like saying one is a conservative because one wants to preserve the medieval European traditions of arranged marriage and trial by combat. Whatever the merits of those practices, you cannot preserve or defend something that is dead. Perhaps you can retain a memory of it or knowledge of it. But that is not what conservatism was purportedly about. It was about maintaining traditions and preserving Western civilization as a living and vibrant thing.

Well, too late. Western civilization is dying. The traditions and practices that conservatives champion are, at best, being preserved only in an ever-shrinking private sphere. At worst, they are being trampled to dust. They certainly do not form the basis of our common culture or civic life, as they did for most of our nation’s history.

To talk now of “family values” is to assume that there are enough Americans able and willing to marry and raise children together for something like “family values” to matter in the public discourse, much less in the halls of power. To talk of defending “religious freedom” is to misapprehend that the real risk today is widespread irreligion, which will leave so few religious Americans in the coming generations that the government and large corporations will inevitably — and easily — persecute them.


Conservatives are still invoking these things as if they are magic incantations that can roll back time, just as they did during the crucial decades of the past half-century when a cultural and technological revolution was re-making America before their eyes, and they did nothing to stop it.

In a recent essay for Compact, Jon Askonas argues convincingly that the conservative project failed because “it didn’t take into account the revolutionary principle of technology, and its intrinsic connection to the telos of sheer profit.” Conservatives, he says, were too obsessed with “left-wing revolutionary politics” and missed the real threat, which was technological change so swift and powerful it fundamentally reordered society, swept tradition aside, and unleashed a moral relativism that rendered the conservative project obsolete.

Instead of questioning these technologies, asking whether they would contribute to human flourishing, conservatives acquiesced to their inevitability and focused instead on narrower issues. The result has been the transformation of society within the span of a single human lifetime, and with it the wholesale destruction of our traditions and the looming implosion of Western civilization.

While it might be necessary, as Askonas argues, to enact a serious program of technological development to build a future that supports human flourishing, it is also the case that to do so on a scale sufficient to save our country will require political power — and the willingness to use it.


So what kind of politics should conservatives today, as inheritors of a failed movement, adopt? For starters, they should stop thinking of themselves as conservatives (much less as Republicans) and start thinking of themselves as radicals, restorationists, and counterrevolutionaries. Indeed, that is what they are, whether they embrace those labels or not.

They might, looking to American history for inspiration, conjure up the image of the Pilgrims — those iron-willed and audacious Christians who refused to accept the terms set by the mainstream of their time and set out to build something entirely new, to hew it out of the wilderness of the New World, even at great personal cost.

Or they might claim the mantle of revolutionaries, invoking the Founding Fathers’ view (or, at least, Thomas Jefferson’s) that periodic revolution to preserve liberty and civil society has always been and always will be necessary.

Whatever the term or image, the imperative that conservatives must break from the past and forge a new political identity cannot be overstated. It is time now for something new, for a new way of thinking and speaking about what conservative politics should be. The fusionism of past decades, in which conservatives made common cause with market-obsessed libertarians and foreign policy neocons, is finished. So too is Conservatism Inc. and the establishment GOP it enabled, whose first priority was always tax cuts for big business at the expense of everything else. The election of Donald Trump in 2016 heralded a populist wave and the end of Republican politics as we knew it, and now we are in uncharted waters.

To be sure, there has been plenty of talk on the right lately about what should be done differently now. Some, such as Sohrab Ahmari, Gladden Pappin, and Adrian Vermeule (along with a larger cohort of conservative Catholic thinkers), advocate a conservatism that is comfortable with big government and in fact sees it as necessary not only for the common good but to tame what Ahmari recently called the “private tyranny” of woke corporations empowered by unrestrained market forces. Conservative Catholics, he argues, should today claim ownership of a pro-worker, even pro-union political agenda that once belonged to the left, and which produced generations of Democrat-voting Catholic workers.

Indeed, a willingness to embrace government power has been a topic of fruitful debate on the “New Right” in recent years, as it should be. However uncomfortable traditional “small-government” conservatives might be with Ahmari’s argument, it is more or less true.

Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to rebuild and in a sense re-found it, and that means getting used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it. Why? Because accommodation or compromise with the left is impossible. One need only consider the speed with which the discourse shifted on gay marriage, from assuring conservatives ahead of the 2015 Obergefell decision that gay Americans were only asking for toleration, to the never-ending persecution of Jack Phillips.

The left will only stop when conservatives stop them, which means conservatives will have to discard outdated and irrelevant notions about “small government.” The government will have to become, in the hands of conservatives, an instrument of renewal in American life — and in some cases, a blunt instrument indeed.

To stop Big Tech, for example, will require using antitrust powers to break up the largest Silicon Valley firms. To stop universities from spreading poisonous ideologies will require state legislatures to starve them of public funds. To stop the disintegration of the family might require reversing the travesty of no-fault divorce, combined with generous subsidies for families with small children. Conservatives need not shy away from making these arguments because they betray some cherished libertarian fantasy about free markets and small government. It is time to clear our minds of cant.

In other contexts, wielding government power will mean a dramatic expansion of the criminal code. It will not be enough, for example, to reach an accommodation with the abortion regime, to agree on “reasonable limits” on when unborn human life can be snuffed out with impunity. As Abraham Lincoln once said of slavery, we must become all one thing or all the other. The Dobbs decision was in a sense the end of the beginning of the pro-life cause. Now comes the real fight, in state houses across the country, to outlaw completely the barbaric practice of killing the unborn.

Conservatives had better be ready for it, and Republican politicians, if they want to stay in office, had better have an answer ready when they are asked what reasonable limits to abortion restrictions they would support. The answer is: none, for the same reason they would not support reasonable limits to restrictions on premeditated murder.

On the transgender question, conservatives will have to repudiate utterly the cowardly position of people like David French, in whose malformed worldview Drag Queen Story Hour at a taxpayer-funded library is a “blessing of liberty.” Conservatives need to get comfortable saying in reply to people like French that Drag Queen Story Hour should be outlawed; that parents who take their kids to drag shows should be arrested and charged with child abuse; that doctors who perform so-called “gender-affirming” interventions should be thrown in prison and have their medical licenses revoked; and that teachers who expose their students to sexually explicit material should not just be fired but be criminally prosecuted.

If all that sounds radical, fine. It need not, at this late hour, dissuade conservatives in the least. Radicalism is precisely the approach needed now because the necessary task is nothing less than radical and revolutionary.

To those who worry that power corrupts, and that once the right seizes power it too will be corrupted, they certainly have a point. If conservatives manage to save the country and rebuild our institutions, will they ever relinquish power and go the way of Cincinnatus? It is a fair question, and we should attend to it with care after we have won the war.

For now, there are only two paths open to conservatives. Either they awake from decades of slumber to reclaim and re-found what has been lost, or they will watch our civilization die. There is no third road."



- Most conservatives really don't give two shits about gay marriage. So any conservative who continues to harp about it as some kind of major issue is out of touch

- What you want to call yourself ("Counterrevolutionary" or whatever was suggested) is pretty irrelevant. What matters is what you do, not what you call yourself

- There's definitely some strong-handed suggestions here (I bolded those) which could be seen as gov't overreach, but I don't see any calls for riots or violence. And in order to implement any potential gov't overreach, first you have to win elections

Still overall an interesting find, and it's always good to be reading what the other side is thinking/doing

[Basanos]

- Most conservatives really don't give two shits about gay marriage. So any conservative who continues to harp about it as some kind of major issue is out of touch

- What you want to call yourself ("Counterrevolutionary" or whatever was suggested) is pretty irrelevant. What matters is what you do, not what you call yourself

- There's definitely some strong-handed suggestions here (I bolded those) which could be seen as gov't overreach, but I don't see any calls for riots or violence. And in order to implement any potential gov't overreach, first you have to win elections

Still overall an interesting find, and it's always good to be reading what the other side is thinking/doingThis is precisely why I posted it, but I also think it's why this person wrote the whole thing. Despite me shitposting I do read a lot about the people I oppose. That guy is trying to tweak the 'conservative project' because I think some of them are aware that they are, in no way, 'small government'. I think what you call yourself matters to some extent or these people wouldn't push back on being called fascists. (I call them fascists, and they always push back on that, so I'll keep doing it) Nobody ever thinks that they are the badguy

I want to believe that the right-wing libertarian segments of the modern Republican party will correctly call this kind of stuff this person suggests fundamentally anti-liberty, should it become policy like this person wants, but I'm not exactly holding my breath on them. Rand Paul is still one of their primary personalities and that dude tucks tail and shows his belly to more powerful conservatives all the time.

I gotta disagree with you on the gay marriage thing, though. I think there's a lot of animus about that and they've been seething over it for years, just like they did abortion. It's a mistake to pretend that Evangelicals aren't a huge force in their ranks. Right-wing Evangelicals can justify absolutely any horror imaginable. They had to brainwash themselves into calling Trump "Cyrus" so that they could cover their asses, but people have been using Biblical allegories to excuse atrocities for centuries so that's nothing new.

Plus, I have to disagree with you on the call for violence. While they aren't the type to riot, not since the late 1770's, but that's certainly a call for violence in the subtext. A 'dramatic expansion of the criminal code'... as if we don't already have millions of people incarcerated who don't deserve it. Who do you think would be doing the arresting of these people this author suggests arresting? The state would, through law enforcement officers. The state has a monopoly on 'legitimate' violence. Incarceration always involves the threat of violence, and being in prison itself absolutely involves the threat of violence.

[Reiwa]

I gotta disagree with you on the gay marriage thing, though. I think there's a lot of animus about that and they've been seething over it for years, just like they did abortion. It's a mistake to pretend that Evangelicals aren't a huge force in their ranks. Right-wing Evangelicals can justify absolutely any horror imaginable. They had to brainwash themselves into calling Trump "Cyrus" so that they could cover their asses, but people have been using Biblical allegories to excuse atrocities for centuries so that's nothing new.

Obergefell was decided on the privacy basis of substantive due process as invented in Griswold and applied in Roe, Loving, and Lawrence.

That issue would matter to the federalist society, not these clownboat Conservativism imposters. 🤡

[Basanos]

The left every day:

https://i.imgur.com/DUL9eTF.png

https://i.imgur.com/cQmwTeW.png

https://i.imgur.com/MvBiRLL.pngDon't mistake liberals for leftists. There is no popular leftist media network, the closest you get is MeansTV. CNN is entertainment in the same way Fox News is, just a few millimeters to the left of the general Fox News viewer. Both an administration and a news network benefit from the populace being under the impression that Civil War 2 is pending.

Check this out, if you think despising conservatives makes me a diehard Biden supporter. I wasn't aware of this documentary before but I certainly want to see it now.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/fbi-raid-abc-news_producer-1234613619/

Meek has been charged with no crime. But independent observers believe the raid is among the first — and quite possibly, the first — to be carried out on a journalist by the Biden administration. A federal magistrate judge in the Virginia Eastern District Court signed off on the search warrant the day before the raid. If the raid was for Meek’s records, U.S. Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco would have had to give her blessing; a new policy enacted last year prohibits federal prosecutors from seizing journalists’ documents. Any exception requires the deputy AG’s approval. (Gabe Rottman at the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press says, “To my knowledge, there hasn’t been a case [since January 2021].”)

It is unclear what story, if any, would have put Meek in the FBI’s crosshairs. Meek worked on extremely sensitive topics — from high-profile terrorists to Americans held abroad to the exploits of Erik Prince, the founder of the infamous military contractor Blackwater. In recent years, some of Meek’s highest-profile reporting delved into a 2017 ambush by ISIS in Niger that left four American Green Berets dead. Meek and ABC then adapted the story into the feature-length documentary 3212 Un-Redacted, which debuted last year on Veteran’s Day on ABC’s sister company Hulu.

[unsunghero]

I’m 1 bub from 56, Rob, catching up!

[Basanos]

I’m 1 bub from 56, Rob, catching up!I was halfway to 55 when I last played about a week ago, but I got annoyed because I healed some dude in Freeport and wrecked my militia faction because I was stoned and forgot to zone out

Now I'm KOS in most parts of West and East Freeport, to the guards anyways. That's annoying since I was levelling blacksmithing. Please don't make me go to Greater Faydark, I hate that zone

[Elizondo]

19265

Those jaw lines .....

Yikes

[Jibartik]

so much diversity.

[Kaveh]

The left every day:

https://i.imgur.com/DUL9eTF.png

https://i.imgur.com/cQmwTeW.png

https://i.imgur.com/MvBiRLL.png

Nah, civil war is gay

Everyone just needs to get some
Fresh air and embrace Protestant Christ

[Kaveh]

so much diversity.

I tell people my name is Kevin 50% of the time

[Jibartik]

Everyone just needs to embrace Protestant Christ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism also called evangelical Christianity or evangelical Protestantism, is a worldwide interdenominational movement within Protestant Christianity.

https://i.imgur.com/jOF9uD3.jpg

:o Ok

[Reiwa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism also called evangelical Christianity or evangelical Protestantism, is a worldwide interdenominational movement within Protestant Christianity.

https://i.imgur.com/jOF9uD3.jpg

:o Ok

Mainline is like Lutherans and Methodists.

[Basanos]

Nah, civil war is gay

Everyone just needs to get some
Fresh air and embrace Protestant Christhttps://i.imgur.com/JjxyUtR.png

[Kaveh]

^looks like Houston

I don’t miss it

[unsunghero]

I was halfway to 55 when I last played about a week ago, but I got annoyed because I healed some dude in Freeport and wrecked my militia faction because I was stoned and forgot to zone out

Now I'm KOS in most parts of West and East Freeport, to the guards anyways. That's annoying since I was levelling blacksmithing. Please don't make me go to Greater Faydark, I hate that zone

Oh I kept thinking you were 56 my bad

Yea I fucked up my OT faction also playing stoned and I wanted to kill those scorpions in the OT crater, didn’t realize they were venril sathir faction. So I had to do the stupid braids quest a bunch

Man messing up FP that does suck tho. There’s probably some quest that can bring it back up tho

[Basanos]

^looks like Houston

I don’t miss itI only ever did a few shows in Houston, haven't spent much time there other than one of the convention centers

But I do like variations on the freeway exit theme :)

https://i.imgur.com/i8wMpFF.jpeg

Oh I kept thinking you were 56 my bad

Yea I fucked up my OT faction also playing stoned and I wanted to kill those scorpions in the OT crater, didn’t realize they were venril sathir faction. So I had to do the stupid braids quest a bunch

Man messing up FP that does suck tho. There’s probably some quest that can bring it back up thoWhen I said halfway to 55, I meant halfway through it... 54 took me like six months. Casual for life!

I'm kinda waiting to see if this new green happens before sinking much more time into my druid, tbh. I sorta regret going with Karana and Human, as well as Druid

[Elizondo]

Oh I kept thinking you were 56 my bad

Yea I fucked up my OT faction also playing stoned and I wanted to kill those scorpions in the OT crater, didn’t realize they were venril sathir faction. So I had to do the stupid braids quest a bunch

Man messing up FP that does suck tho. There’s probably some quest that can bring it back up tho

https://wiki.project1999.com/Left_Goblin_Ears

[Jibartik]

HRDG4-RzPc8

[Swish]

lol

[Jibartik]

OHH I have an idea for politcs!!!

Ok its called teh WILDLANDS

and what you do is you take a coastal area like florida, and you give it to the hippies to just live in a communal progressive paradise utopia.

And then everyone watches them all turn into cannibals, invent a religion, and kill each other. Then we can all agree that we need authority.

[magnetaress]

thats what a penal colony is and i dont see why we can't have penal colonies in already populated areas.

oh we already do, they are called hollywood and california !

[unsunghero]

Forgot if I posted this before: RL story of how Rambo here decided to grab his trusty sidearm and go cleen up teh streetz

See also: When you’re carrying a hammer, everything looks like a nail, especially black guys amirite??

See also: Stand your ground fails. White cops immediately don’t like or believe this guy, and turns out when you whip out your gun and the suspect backs away in fear, you don’t have the legal right to shoot him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0jByPAIUro

[Jibartik]

Id really love some actual insight on this, because nobody in the world seems to know:

Why is there worldwide inflation? What the fuck is happening?

[Reiwa]

Id really love some actual insight on this, because nobody in the world seems to know:

Why is there worldwide inflation? What the fuck is happening?

Lack of production since Tromp administration recommended shutdowns.

Fwiw it was the right move.

[Reiwa]

Our economic growth is way behind what it would have been, so we're running to catch up to our population growth.

[Jibartik]

You know what I think probably the most disgusting thing about this country is they are trying so hard to throw the trump administration into jail and nobody that said WMDs were in iraq have seen any trouble at all.

A vile pit of scum from sea to shining sea.

[Basanos]

I'd be more disgusted that nothing at all happens to Trump and his criminal enterprise, but that's precisely what I expect to happen. Because justice does not exist in America, and the conservative government protects the rich.

[Elizondo]

Lack of production since Tromp administration recommended shutdowns.

Fwiw it was the right move.

lol

[Patrece]

I'd be more disgusted that nothing at all happens to Trump and his criminal enterprise, but that's precisely what I expect to happen. Because justice does not exist in America, and the conservative government protects the rich.

You realize every accusation has been funded by and founded in lies created by the Hillary campaign. This has been entirely admitted in court.

[Chortles Snortles]

im da based alpha

[Basanos]

You realize every accusation has been funded by and founded in lies created by the Hillary campaign. This has been entirely admitted in court.You're telling me a woman who was never higher ranking than a Senator can prevent an incumbent from being re-elected?

I bet she can also rig an election, getting many millions of votes tossed, without any evidence whatsoever

Haha, I am sure if it was admitted in court, then they'll drop all the stuff against him any time

[Homesteaded]

Haha, I am sure if it was admitted in court, then they'll drop all the stuff against him any time

The last 7 years tell us otherwise.

[MrSparkle001]

Id really love some actual insight on this, because nobody in the world seems to know:

Why is there worldwide inflation? What the fuck is happening?

The world's economies are too connected to China's.

[Basanos]

The last 7 years tell us otherwise.You gotta come at people like that from every direction at once

It's weird to me that not only did the liberals never seem to learn the "we'll get him this time" shit is just a red herring to keep them complacent... in addition to that, the conservatives that love him don't seem to understand it either.

I don't know what you guys are worried about. Whatever that circus committee does, it's gonna slide off of him like everything else always does

Because our justice system exists to protect people like him at the expense of the rest of us

[Jibartik]

The world's economies are too connected to China's.

Is it also because we're going through worldwide famine?

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/uqZmWMA.png

[unsunghero]

..,

[Jibartik]

I think you can sum up the entirety of why capitalism flat out doesn't work by pointing to the History Channel.

[unsunghero]

,,,

[unsunghero]

This is a real story

They glued themselves to the floor to change the weather then complained when the staff didn’t bring them a pee bucket and instead left lol

[Elizondo]

19276

[Basanos]

Is it also because we're going through worldwide famine?no, it is because companies love cheap labor. outsourcing labor has always been a very bad strategic choice, even if we outsourced it to canada... much less china.

and yeah, all of the other places companies exploit labor.

19276wow the bone saw dude preferred donald trump? ya don't say?

i feel like if the insane serial killer guy points at someome and says "i like that guy" i should be hesitant

[Elizondo]

no, it is because companies love cheap labor. outsourcing labor has always been a very bad strategic choice, even if we outsourced it to canada... much less china.

and yeah, all of the other places companies exploit labor.

wow the bone saw dude preferred donald trump? ya don't say?

i feel like if the insane serial killer guy points at someome and says "i like that guy" i shoule be hesitant

Bitter Basanos triggered so badly, didn't preview his post and quote failed

So funny

[Basanos]

what kind of coward previews posts?

[Jibartik]

what kind of coward previews posts?

RnF'rs :D

[Basanos]

RnF'rs :Di did notice i can't edit posts there but i can here for however long after posting

i implore the mods to remove the edit function here

[Elizondo]

i did notice i can't edit posts there but i can here for however long after posting

i implore the mods to remove the edit function here

Sad Botten would be hardest hit

[Basanos]

it's okay, languages change over time no matter what any of us do

see melvil dui / melville dewey

[Basanos]

His theories of spelling reform (to which end he founded the Spelling Reform Association in 1886) found some local success at Lake Placid: there is an "Adirondak Loj" in the area, and dinner menus of the club used his reformed spelling. A September 1927 menu is headed "Simpler spelin" and features dishes like hadok, poted beef with noodls, parsli or masht potato, butr, steamd rys, letis, and ys cream. It also advises guests that "All shud see the butiful after-glo on mountains to the east just before sunset. Fyn vu from Golfhous porch."

[Jibartik]

i did notice i can't edit posts there but i can here for however long after posting

i implore the mods to remove the edit function here

I like being able to edit because only privileged conservatives would proof read their messages before hitting enter.

[unsunghero]

Big leftist youtuber who said cancel culture is a good thing just got cancelled + banned and is now BIG BIG MAD

Lol

Since when can you not say you hope particular Jewish people die in the next holocaust anymore? Remember, leftists only have love in their hearts <3

[Swish]

I don't know who watched his vids or why lol

[Basanos]

Remember, leftists only have love in their hearts <3You bet, but sometimes love can cause anger too

One person doesn't represent all of it and you know it, no more than Nick Fuentes is representative of every right wing person

[Reiwa]

Big leftist youtuber who said cancel culture is a good thing just got cancelled + banned and is now BIG BIG MAD

Lol

Since when can you not say you hope particular Jewish people die in the next holocaust anymore? Remember, leftists only have love in their hearts <3

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19277&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1666647536

Isn't he allowed to say that? He has a pass.

[peterpal]

https://i.imgur.com/6pjVEgV.jpeg

suddenly they can wear masks

[Jibartik]

Kanye going full antichrist lol I Hope he gets to build the tower of "basil" as he calls it LOL

4AWLcxTGZPA

[Jibartik]

"why do you love kim most?"

"... ... ... ... ... HER DNA."

"we've taken all the best DNA in the world, and combined it into 1 person..."

"what did they do with that power?"

"Made a sex tape, got ass implants and made a trillion dollars on social media."

"WOW! DAS HERRENVOLK!"

[peterpal]

Every podcast he's on is giving him the benefit of a doubt of what he said and several outs and chances to redeem himself but he keeps doubling down and making it worse

[Jibartik]

It's hilarious how space nazi he doesnt realize he is lol

[Kaveh]

Every podcast he's on is giving him the benefit of a doubt of what he said and several outs and chances to redeem himself but he keeps doubling down and making it worse

To be fair, he’s obviously mentally ill and having a breakdown

I’m biased though. He said schools should only teach engineering and everything else should be recess. +1, can I get an amen nostalgia quest

[Homesteaded]

Kanye is a real enigma.

[Homesteaded]

I love that he looks like he is an out of work carpenter.

You know who else was a carpenter...

[Reiwa]

Did you guys hear kanye say he was a jew?

He's the messiah.

I was wondering if he went over to NoI but that makes it sound like Black Hebrew Israelite.

[Jibartik]

Remember kanye's message folks:

Black eccentric billionaire = mentally ill

White eccentric billionaire = presidential material

Anti kanye people, are the definition of systematic unconscious biased racist pieces of dogshit, just clapping like seals for the fish kanye is throwing them.

They're all actors in HIS show.

The truth is, he's a passionate person who has a high IQ and LOW wisdom, because he's a victim of being a celeberity.

[Kaveh]

Kanye is a real enigma.

He’s psychotic and needs meds

[Kaveh]

Remember kanye's message folks:



Anti kanye people, are racist, peaces of dogshit just clapping like seals for the fish kanye is throwing them.

They're all actors in HIS show.

Threatening “defcon 3” on an ethnic group is not eccentricity

[Jibartik]

I was wondering if he went over to NoI but that makes it sound like Black Hebrew Israelite.

Tower of basil

computer brains

DNA engineering

lol the guy is a full blown space nazi antichrist haha

hope he goes all the way to jerusalem and builds a techno temple.

[Jibartik]

Threatening “defcon 3” on an ethnic group is not eccentricity

Watch his interviews about it instead of being an ignorant anti black racist.

[Kaveh]

Yes, Kanye is the victim here

Just like Putin. What else you got?

[Kaveh]

Tower of basil

computer brains

DNA engineering

lol the guy is a full blown space nazi antichrist haha

hope he goes all the way to jerusalem and builds a techno temple.

He’s a Nazi but I’m racist for criticizing him? Yet another enlightening jib (unemployed) perspective

[Jibartik]

He’s a Nazi but I’m racist for criticizing him? Yet another enlightening jib (unemployed) perspective

If you called him a potential nazi, or a billionaire who wants to build a caste system, then that's fine.

But if you're gonna just repeat the establishment media talking point about uppity african americans, that he literally is calling out, then you're just a racist.

You're just comfortable with the idea: that any eccentric successful black person is mentally ill, and white people are just eccentric.

[Kaveh]

Too early in the morning for your impotent rage jib

I’ll leave you to it

[Basanos]

https://i.imgur.com/9pzsWaB.jpeg

[Jibartik]

Yes, Kanye is the victim here

Just like Putin. What else you got?

bro he's falling on his sword for african americans, who are the victim.

you're such a racist. But no surprise, trying to keep up with all the racists you grew up around.

Im calling out you for just being so quick to judge an excentric black person as mentally ill.

[l0053g0053]

Its rough when you realize there is a yolk on your neck. Michael Jackson had a similar breakdown

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/9pzsWaB.jpeg

Great, now I know I know what Dennis Prager looks like.

I am so happy I learned this.

[Basanos]

Great, now I know I know what Dennis Prager looks like.

I am so happy I learned this.If I had to watch that cursed Mike Rowe PragerU video years ago, then we must all suffer my fate

(overwhelming disappointment, i LOVED dirty jobs back in the day)

[unsunghero]

More political violence from the left

Think the attackers said “this is Biden country?” JK this is actually a real attack and not another fake hate crime

[Jibartik]

I genuinely am concerned that we're going to turn into space nazis.

But I am going to enjoy the ride while we head that way.

[Basanos]

More political violence from the left

Think the attackers said “this is Biden country?” JK this is actually a real attack and not another fake hate crimeI should start a police murders thread and start every post with "More political violence from the right"

But even I do not have the kind of time for such a thread, there's too many incidents to possibly track

[Jibartik]

Violence by the right, is biden administration police departments not getting defunded.

Sorry, all roads lead to rome(democrats).

[Skarne]

More political violence from the left

Think the attackers said “this is Biden country?” JK this is actually a real attack and not another fake hate crime

That guy has a history of instigating violence and has been in a few hate groups. I can see why you feel bad for him.

[Basanos]

A judge sentences a black dude to six years in prison for a crime he let a white kid off on: more political violence from the right

[unsunghero]

That guy has a history of instigating violence and has been in a few hate groups. I can see why you feel bad for him.

Christopher Monzon?

Source?

Nm, found it. Looks like he has since cut ties with those groups. Guess he should still be assaulted tho. In other news, Joe Biden once said marriage is between a man and a woman, is he gonna get punched for some lgbt hate?

[Reiwa]

Christopher Monzon?

https://i.imgur.com/qQZpqip.png

This is a hate crime.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/qQZpqip.png

This is a hate crime.

New rule: if anyone has ever made disparaging remarks about a group of people, we should have full reign to assault them in the streets

[Skarne]

Christopher Monzon?

Source?

Nm, found it. Looks like he has since cut ties with those groups. Guess he should still be assaulted tho. In other news, Joe Biden once said marriage is between a man and a woman, is he gonna get punched for some lgbt hate?

I didn’t say he should be assaulted. I said of course you feel bad for him, and then point the finger at the super scary woke left. You’re just scared man. I promise the wookies won’t try to hurt you.

[Basanos]

Joe Biden once said marriage is between a man and a woman, is he gonna get punched for some lgbt hate?Joe Biden is a conservative, this tracks

[Reiwa]

New rule: if anyone has ever made disparaging remarks about a group of people, we should have full reign to assault them in the streets

Something something the masters tools.

[Jibartik]

Joe Biden is a conservative, this tracks

youve made like 1000 posts about how youd never support a conservative!

[Jibartik]

A judge sentences a black dude to six years in prison for a crime he let a white kid off on: more political violence from the right

Black billionaire complains about it.

Democrats: "this guy is mentally ill, support women "

[unsunghero]

I didn’t say he should be assaulted. I said of course you feel bad for him, and then point the finger at the super scary woke left. You’re just scared man. I promise the wookies won’t try to hurt you.

Since Jan 6th, there have been almost completely one-sided incidents of political violence from the left, including a BLM leftist who attempted to assassinate a mayoral candidate, who only lived because the guy was a terrible shot with a firearm

If I wore a MAGA hat in public, there is a decent chance someone might try to assault me. The main thing preventing it would be my size, since most rational people tend to only pick fights they think they can win

Luckily, however, I am not stupid enough to put conservative bumper stickers on my car, wear political clothing in public, go to political protests, or do anything that would otherwise make me a target

[Jibartik]

This guy is my absolute hero at this point.

LETZ GOO LETZ GOOOOOO !

MQ909OjTyXk

[Homesteaded]

Democrats: "this guy is mentally ill, support women "

Rational person: "What is a woman?"

Democrats: splurg

[unsunghero]

The “don’t worry, you’re safe from political assaults as a GOP member” fan club:

[Patrece]

Kari Lake for the win

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1584724147434708992

[Basanos]

https://i.imgur.com/W0NxZTe.jpeg

[Basanos]

The “don’t worry, you’re safe from political assaults as a GOP member” fan club:You don't have to worry about that shit unless you get out in the streets

Which you said you aren't willing to do. So all you are really doing is saying "this is what I am afraid of"

[Reiwa]

Kari Lake for the win

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1584724147434708992

Imminent danger? (https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/article-i-section-10/)

At least Hannity knows you'll lose on the merits. :)

[Skarne]

Since Jan 6th, there have been almost completely one-sided incidents of political violence from the left, including a BLM leftist who attempted to assassinate a mayoral candidate, who only lived because the guy was a terrible shot with a firearm

If I wore a MAGA hat in public, there is a decent chance someone might try to assault me. The main thing preventing it would be my size, since most rational people tend to only pick fights they think they can win

Luckily, however, I am not stupid enough to put conservative bumper stickers on my car, wear political clothing in public, go to political protests, or do anything that would otherwise make me a target

Ah I didn’t realize you were such a victim, my mistake.

[Reiwa]

You don't have to worry about that shit unless you get out in the streets

Which you said you aren't willing to do. So all you are really doing is saying "this is what I am afraid of"

A political movement that inspires fear or otherwise terrorizes...

[Basanos]

A political movement that inspires fear or otherwise terrorizes...is justly resisted by any means necessary

[Basanos]

The opposite of love is not hate but indifference.Amen, I exist to get people off the goddamn fence

[unsunghero]

Ah I didn’t realize you were such a victim, my mistake.

I’m more likely to be attacked in a MAGA hat than without one. We can agree to disagree on how much more likely

Only a completely naive person would think otherwise, especially after I posted multiple examples of it literally happening to people

[Patrece]

Imminent danger? (https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/article-i-section-10/)

At least Hannity knows you'll lose on the merits. :)

Yeah millions of illegals pouring in totally isn't an invasion dude lol

[Kaveh]

bro he's falling on his sword for african americans, who are the victim.

you're such a racist. But no surprise, trying to keep up with all the racists you grew up around.

Im calling out you for just being so quick to judge an excentric black person as mentally ill.

Cry me a river about Kanye and Putin being the real victims

[Kaveh]

Yeah millions of illegals pouring in totally isn't an invasion dude lol

I wouldn’t worry about it. Texas would be a purple state if democrats discovered how unpopular open borders are

(They won’t and will continue to insist “asylum” means anyone without a job in Central American is welcome to come do nothing and receive Medicaid)

[unsunghero]

A political movement that inspires fear or otherwise terrorizes...

It’s not necessarily fear. It’s the same in my job. I’m not going to put myself in a situation where someone escalates and attacks me, not because I don’t think I could win the fight or defend myself, but that I don’t want to deal with the incident report paperwork

For example, I could be around a demented 90 year old man who’s aggressive, and if he punched me he’d probably break his own arm in multiple places. Therefore, I’m going to back out of the house if he attempts to confront me

Even when you win a fight, you still can lose in court or the court of public opinion. Therefore it is in everyone’s best interest to avoid all fights. This means no political paraphernalia

[Basanos]

I’m more likely to be attacked in a MAGA hat than without one. We can agree to disagree on how much more likely

Only a completely naive person would think otherwise, especially after I posted multiple examples of it literally happening to peopleYou won't find SRA stickers on my car for this reason, it's wise not to invite trouble

Sorry that you can't wear your Klan robe in public anymore I guess, I get what you're saying but pretending the redhats don't explicitly invite similar trouble is also naive

[Kaveh]

MAGA hat = klan robe is hyperbole

[Basanos]

MAGA hat = klan robe is hyperboleNot to your average person of color in the south it isn't

[magnetaress]

All these guys getting assaulted or assaulting ppl at political rallies all look like tiny cucks with trash DNA.

Doesn't matter what flag they wave. That is what they have in common.

[Basanos]

Yeah millions of illegals pouring in totally isn't an invasion dude lolSo what would you call a bunch of Europeans showing up on your continent?

[Jibartik]

Pretty sure "we're going to start genetically engineering you" is inevitable for both sides after the appearance of the Ye-shua messiah figure.

I figure one system will be mandatory health upgrades.

The other will just let competition make you give in and bend the knee to keep up.

https://i.imgur.com/xaZC1aL.png

[Reiwa]

Yeah millions of illegals pouring in totally isn't an invasion dude lol

If a state sez it is and the federal sez it aint, guess who wins genius?

Kari Lake for Prison

[Jibartik]

WTF is this russia?

This country is about what the people say.

[Jibartik]

"slavery by force didnt work for us last time"

"how about this, slavery out of gratitude for us letting them in the country!"

"all for it, open the boarders pay less than min wage in cash!"

[Elizondo]

If a state sez it is and the federal sez it aint, guess who wins genius?

Kari Lake for Prison

Same Feds that lied about illegals getting whipped?

[Reiwa]

I wouldn’t worry about it. Texas would be a purple state if democrats discovered how unpopular open borders are

(They won’t and will continue to insist “asylum” means anyone without a job in Central American is welcome to come do nothing and receive Medicaid)

It's a problem of adjudication, not belligerence.

[Reiwa]

Same Feds that lied about illegals getting whipped?

Whipping is the action, not the material.

Ever get whipped with an extension cord? It hurts.

[Basanos]

"slavery by force didnt work for us last time"They just changed the name to prison, it worked out great for those who stand to benefit

(not the working class, that's for sure)

[Rethalis]

but pretending the redhats don't explicitly invite similar trouble is also naive

Proves the left is just reactionary and anti progress to make this country great again.

[Jibartik]

prison lol

prisoners get paid more for labor than illegal day laborers.

the establishment media will stop at nothing to try to distract people from their corrupt practices.

they all have like 10x day laborers working at any given time on their mansions.

*cough*

sorry plantations.

[Jibartik]

I wish I lived on Marthas Vinyard, so I could be the guy that got caught hiring 2 of the bussed immigrants to get rid of a hornets nest that is outside my pool house with 40$ cash and then leaving them on the side of the road at night.

I would do that and have it all filmed by someone from the bushes.

[Reiwa]

I wish I lived on Marthas Vinyard, so I could be the guy that got caught hiring 2 of the bussed immigrants to get rid of a hornets nest that is outside my pool house with 40$ cash and then leaving them on the side of the road at night.

I would do that and have it all filmed by someone from the bushes.

Where else would you leave them if travelling by motorcar?

[Jibartik]

This but it's Obama's neighbor.

5m77U_QLfhU

[Basanos]

Proves the left is just reactionary and anti progress to make this country great again.Nobody is going to buy the American right as progressives no matter how hard you try

Maybe your MAGA echo chambers like this forum have convinced you can be, but try it with a bullhorn in a public space sometime and you'll see what I mean

I advise no red hats and to try harder to veil the disdain of minorities and LGBTQ ppl

[Kaveh]

Not to your average person of color in the south it isn't

You mean me?

Hyperbole bud.

[Basanos]

You mean me?

Hyperbole bud.I was not aware Alaska was in the south, my understanding of geography must be way off

Anyways, I know you're from Texas and have Iranian origin, and are conservative. Try to think of the perspective of a person that is not conservative, an outsider, or not even into politics at all. I know quite a few people who do not feel safe in a room with a person who has a red hat on. Not all fear is reasonable, but fear is always honest

Besides, Texas isn't the south in the same way Florida isn't the south. They're their own regions, in a sense

[Elizondo]

Whipping is the action, not the material.

Ever get whipped with an extension cord? It hurts.

It literally didn't happen and they purposely lied about it

Whatever ambiguous tweet you wanna post that makes you feel better I guess

[Reiwa]

It literally didn't happen and they purposely lied about it

Whatever ambiguous tweet you wanna post that makes you feel better I guess

No, it was "false" because it wasn't actual whips but horsey reins.

[Kaveh]

I was not aware Alaska was in the south, my understanding of geography must be way off

Anyways, I know you're from Texas and have Iranian origin, and are conservative. Try to think of the perspective of a person that is not conservative, an outsider, or not even into politics at all. I know quite a few people who do not feel safe in a room with a person who has a red hat on. Not all fear is reasonable, but fear is always honest

Besides, Texas isn't the south in the same way Florida isn't the south. They're their own regions, in a sense

East Texas is the south, but I’d concede houston is different

Other than that, I disagree with the premise. The klan used to hold rallies in east Texas in my lifetime. This is different man, Mexicans love Donald trump. It’s not racial

[Basanos]

It's certainly more complicated than rednecks wearing klan robes and marching around. We had a brawl about that my freshman year of high school.

I've said before the fascism they are building is a weirder, more modern, more inclusive and insidious version than the one we're all familiar with. It makes sense, Fascism 2.0 is definitely going to be more aware of modern trends

My brother in law is a Hispanic Trump supporter, a devout Catholic, and a raging racist. Especially when it comes to people from Middle Eastern countries (not Israelis, though! Crazy!)

[Kaveh]

Yeah, there were definitely race fights in high school. Or just brawls in general

The 80s were fucking great. Back then you got arrested and your football coach came and got everyone out of lockup

[Jibartik]

Nobody is going to buy the American right as progressives no matter how hard you try

Maybe your MAGA echo chambers like this forum have convinced you can be, but try it with a bullhorn in a public space sometime and you'll see what I mean

I advise no red hats and to try harder to veil the disdain of minorities and LGBTQ ppl

Hitlers plans are the same as progressive plans only they switch around which groups are at fault for the plans not working so far.