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Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 04:57 PM
I think you're failing to see the point I am making. Can't tell if it's deliberate, wondering why I even care.

Most people who argue with each other about politics online talk past each other.

I'm saying you should aim to avoid playing into identity politics.

You're saying (I think) that it happens no matter what. Which is true. If you know a certain demographic likes you, you're going to lean into that.

But at the end of the day, it becomes divisive when you focus your full attention into one demographic.

We shouldn't have the "Only White People Should Be Provided For" party. That's identity politics.

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 04:58 PM
And now we’re 40% obese and also 25% infertile

GG Catholics, you destroyed america with your idolatry

weve had 2 catholic presidents and the CIA shot one of them so lets not be too quick to judge, but I do agree the Vatican looks like a Sith temple.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 05:00 PM
weve had 2 catholic presidents and the CIA shot one of them so lets not be too quick to judge, but I do agree the Vatican looks like a Sith temple.

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aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 05:02 PM
Good.

You can't vote unless you are a citizen.

Indivisible with liberty and justice for ALL

Horza
02-13-2023, 05:07 PM
But at the end of the day, it becomes divisive when you focus your full attention into one demographic.

We shouldn't have the "Only White People Should Be Provided For" party. That's identity politics.

Republicans talked a big game about changing their ways and being more inclusive after the 2012 election autopsy, but they latched onto a reality television grifter ranting about how Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals at the first opportunity.

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 05:08 PM
Republicans talked a big game about changing their ways and being more inclusive after the 2012 election autopsy, but they latched onto a reality television grifter ranting about how Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals at the first opportunity.

That got my vote, my bad

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 05:09 PM
That was peak funny Trump. It’s not funny anymore though

Basanos
02-13-2023, 05:13 PM
We shouldn't have the "Only White People Should Be Provided For" party. That's identity politics.They're called Republicans.

All I am saying is that all participation in politics in any form is participation in identity politics, brain genius.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 05:14 PM
Indivisible with liberty and justice for ALL

Yeah, our laws and constitution are extended to non-citizens but not voting and politics.

You have to be a citizen.

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 05:15 PM
They're called Republicans.

i·den·ti·ty pol·i·tics
noun
a tendency for people of a particular religion, ethnic group, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

All I am saying is that all participation in politics in any form is participation in identity politics, brain genius.

Not if you can say trump did a great job as president and was not given a fair shake by democrats, and still vote for democrats.

And that Biden is outright the opposite version of what he ran his campaign saying he'd do. And given vastly more money to the 1% than the republicans did in the last 4 years before him.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 05:18 PM
They're called Republicans.

All I am saying is that all participation in politics in any form is participation in identity politics, brain genius.

There's a difference between what you believe and reality.

And, no, you are still wrong.

Politics is SUPPOSED to be about high level issues that effect us all, no matter what group you belong to.

"Should we bomb [insert country]?"

or

"Should we lower or raise taxes?"

or

"Should we spend more on education?"

Are high level issues that has nothing to do with identity.

Politicians should cater to ONE identity: the American.

Horza
02-13-2023, 05:20 PM
Trump did a great job as president and was not given a fair shake by Democrats, did you guys not see how big the tax cuts he passed for his fellow Epstein plane flyers were?

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 05:20 PM
Trump did a great job as president and was not given a fair shake by Democrats

New Signature Quote

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 05:21 PM
Trump did a great job as president and was not given a fair shake by Democrats, did you guys not see how big the tax cuts he passed for his fellow Epstein plane flyers were?

I agree trump was not perfect either, in fact I was going REEE during covid, will you stop thinking that saying someone didnt get a fair shake means that he was a masionic figure?

Trexller
02-13-2023, 05:24 PM
I agree trump was not perfect either, in fact I was going REEE during covid, will you stop thinking that saying someone didnt get a fair shake means that he was a masionic figure?

im pretty sure that horza doesn't actually have any political beliefs

he just enjoys trolling

like the guy who shows up to the super bowl party wearing a red wings jersey

yeah, that happened yesterday.

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 05:31 PM
Yeah, our laws and constitution are extended to non-citizens but not voting and politics.

You have to be a citizen.

Are children politics?

Horza
02-13-2023, 05:32 PM
im pretty sure that horza doesn't actually have any political beliefs

he just enjoys trolling

like the guy who shows up to the super bowl party wearing a red wings jersey

yeah, that happened yesterday.

GOPtards already think all Biden voters are NPCs or whatever the latest dehumanizing chan meme is though.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 05:32 PM
im pretty sure that horza doesn't actually have any political beliefs

he just enjoys trolling



Horza seems like a right winger trying to pose as the dumbest leftist ever and I'm completely falling for the troll.

If you asked any Conservative to fake being a Leftist online, they would act exactly like Horza.

Trexller
02-13-2023, 05:42 PM
Horza seems like a right winger trying to pose as the dumbest leftist ever and I'm completely falling for the troll.

If you asked any Conservative to fake being a Leftist online, they would act exactly like Horza.

yes exactly, horza has a monotonous drone to his trolling

liberals are the artistic types

Basanos
02-13-2023, 06:24 PM
There's a difference between what you believe and reality.

And, no, you are still wrong.

Politics is SUPPOSED to be about high level issues that effect us all, no matter what group you belong to.

"Should we bomb [insert country]?"

or

"Should we lower or raise taxes?"

or

"Should we spend more on education?"

Are high level issues that has nothing to do with identity.

Politicians should cater to ONE identity: the American.The identity politics of the form of politics you are referring to is American, you are like a hunk of cheese you're so dense

Botten
02-13-2023, 06:32 PM

Politics is SUPPOSED to be about high level issues that effect us all, no matter what group you belong to.

….

Are high level issues that has nothing to do with identity.

Politicians should cater to ONE identity: the American.


Trump used folder bearing ‘classified’ wording to block light keeping him awake at night, lawyer says (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-used-folder-bearing-classified-wording-block-light-keeping-awake-rcna70387)

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 06:40 PM
I want offshore wind so that the US can export natural gas BIGLY to destroy Russia and Iran’s power over their own people (mainly Iran, I want oil and gas to have no value such that the mullahs are ripped to pieces, preferably by my own hands)

Where’s the identity in that? Iranian? I’d say it’s mutually beneficial pragmatism that primarily comes from me being an electrical engineer with a hard on for windmills

I don't see that being cost competitive if it were even possible to do, which I don't think it is.

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 06:41 PM
Trump did a great job as president and was not given a fair shake by Democrats, did you guys not see how big the tax cuts he passed for his fellow Epstein plane flyers were?

Isn't that how we got the revenue for the Infrastructure program?

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 07:04 PM
I don't see that being cost competitive if it were even possible to do, which I don't think it is.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/money-talks-from-the-economist/id420929545?i=1000594105611

I can’t explain engineering to a Catholic peasant, but that podcast might get you a cursory understanding of the potential where offshore is connected to already established oil infrastructure (in the US, Texas and Louisiana)

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 07:33 PM
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/money-talks-from-the-economist/id420929545?i=1000594105611

I can’t explain engineering to a Catholic peasant, but that podcast might get you a cursory understanding of the potential where offshore is connected to already established oil infrastructure (in the US, Texas and Louisiana)

no I mean the part about replacing them as hydrocarbon suppliers.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 07:53 PM
The identity politics of the form of politics you are referring to is American, you are like a hunk of cheese you're so dense

The 'American' identity is so inclusive within politics that it's not an identity.

Which is why it's preferrable to target that one broad demographic, rather than race bait shit that people do now.

You really aren't getting this, are you.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 07:54 PM
Trump used folder bearing ‘classified’ wording to block light keeping him awake at night, lawyer says (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-used-folder-bearing-classified-wording-block-light-keeping-awake-rcna70387)

What does this have to do with my comment?

Trump slept with a classified folder?

OH NOES! :rolleyes:

Trexller
02-13-2023, 08:14 PM
What does this have to do with my comment?

Trump slept with a classified folder?

OH NOES! :rolleyes:

yeah botten has a permanent case of Trump Derangement Syndrome

its sad really

can't troll botten, its like punching a retarded kid

Horza
02-13-2023, 09:26 PM
Eat the paste already Botten you stinkin' lib.

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 09:33 PM
no I mean the part about replacing them as hydrocarbon suppliers.

Do you remember shale driving prices down? It’s just supply and demand

We won’t replace them, the goal is to drive prices down and export as much as we can

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 09:42 PM
Do you remember shale driving prices down? It’s just supply and demand

We won’t replace them, the goal is to drive prices down and export as much as we can

Russia oil is already much cheaper than Brent. The added cost of shipping it across the Atlantic is another hurdle on top of competing with that.

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 09:46 PM
Russia oil is already much cheaper than Brent. The added cost of shipping it across the Atlantic is another hurdle on top of competing with that.

You think europe is going to start buying Russian gas again? I’m not sure that will ever be popular

Russian oil and gas aren’t cheap to export where there aren’t pipelines, like India, so again, we’re talking about different things. There’s a global market, and offshore wind would be important for Europe’s energy mix in the scenario I’m talking about

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 09:49 PM
You think europe is going to start buying Russian gas again? I’m not sure that will ever be popular

Russian oil and gas aren’t cheap to export where there aren’t pipelines, like India, so again, we’re talking about different things. There’s a global market, and offshore wind would be important for Europe’s energy mix in the scenario I’m talking about

They haven't even stopped buying it yet goob.

Basanos
02-13-2023, 09:50 PM
The 'American' identity is so inclusive within politics that it's not an identity.America is not the only place that has politics

God, you're dense. I have never ever stated my personal opinion on identity politics, you just make all these stupid assumptions to protect yourself.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 10:44 PM
America is not the only place that has politics

God, you're dense. I have never ever stated my personal opinion on identity politics, you just make all these stupid assumptions to protect yourself.

I'm talking about American politics.

So yes, American is the only identity.

And you obviously support identity politics.

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 10:52 PM
They haven't even stopped buying it yet goob.

It went from 45% to 15% if we’re talking gas. Heading lower

You know what I mean and you’re being obtuse. They’re phasing it out and Poland probably will roll tanks into Germany if they try to bend the knee. Not everyone loves Russia like you do my man, some of us see Putin as a 5’3” degenerate

In any case, we should go renewable and export our hydrocarbons to exert more leverage over the shit hole countries in OPEC. LNG is plenty economical to do so

Basanos
02-13-2023, 11:20 PM
I'm talking about American politics.

So yes, American is the only identity.

And you obviously support identity politics.I wasn't

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 11:23 PM
I wasn't

Okay, well insert whatever country you're in instead of America, still applies.

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 11:24 PM
It went from 45% to 15% if we’re talking gas. Heading lower

You know what I mean and you’re being obtuse. They’re phasing it out and Poland probably will roll tanks into Germany if they try to bend the knee. Not everyone loves Russia like you do my man, some of us see Putin as a 5’3” degenerate

In any case, we should go renewable and export our hydrocarbons to exert more leverage over the shit hole countries in OPEC. LNG is plenty economical to do so

I'll look later, but we're back to the original argument.

Hydrocarbons that had to take a boat across a whole dang ocean would not be naturally competitive with more local availability. It's a weakening and therefore an ill solution.

Kaveh
02-14-2023, 12:35 AM
LNG is roughly 15% of the entire natural gas market. If you count only the amount of gas exported for trade globally, it’s closer to 40% (42% in 2021)

It’s already economical to export, and would be even more so if we had alternate supplies of energy at home like nuclear and offshore wind

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 12:38 AM
LNG is roughly 15% of the entire natural gas market. If you count only the amount of gas exported for trade globally, it’s closer to 40% (42% in 2021)

It’s already economical to export, and would be even more so if we had alternate supplies of energy at home like nuclear and offshore wind

By ship or by pipeline?

That's a long fuckin' pipe to Europe.

Kaveh
02-14-2023, 01:52 AM
Damn dude catholic school failed you BIGLY

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 02:04 AM
Damn dude catholic school failed you BIGLY

Nope. Pipelines are huge. Boats are bad.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 04:48 AM
Democrats are like haha trump looked at the sun.

Meanwhile biden shot an amram at an escaped party balloon.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 04:49 AM
Trump used folder bearing ‘classified’ wording to block light keeping him awake at night, lawyer says (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-used-folder-bearing-classified-wording-block-light-keeping-awake-rcna70387)

waking up next to biden in the morning

JGldzLtFKmw

Basanos
02-14-2023, 11:33 AM
I hope this helps get Trump the nomination. Please recall that I often say American Fascism is going to be more dangerous long term than the older version because it can be somewhat inclusive. People like Nikki Haley are proof of that.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nikki-haley-announces-presidential-bid/

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 11:36 AM
I hope this helps get Trump the nomination. Please recall that I often say American Fascism is going to be more dangerous long term than the older version because it can be somewhat inclusive. People like Nikki Haley are proof of that.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nikki-haley-announces-presidential-bid/

The Left should fear Nikki Haley way more than Trump or DeSantis.

I'm pretty sure Nikki is promising Roman style imperialism.

Toxigen
02-14-2023, 11:37 AM
reeee fascism reeeeeeeee

Basanos
02-14-2023, 11:38 AM
The Left should fear Nikki Haley way more than Trump or DeSantis.

I'm pretty sure Nikki is promising Roman style imperialism.You still don't even know what The Left is so your advice can be safely ignored

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 11:43 AM
You still don't even know what The Left is so your advice can be safely ignored

This is ironic.

Coming from the guy who doesn't even know what identity politics is.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 11:46 AM
"everything to the left of outright fascism is communism" yeah okay soup brain boy

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 11:48 AM
"everything to the left of outright fascism is communism" yeah okay soup brain boy

"Everything that farts the wrong way is fascism"

Right back at ya

Toxigen
02-14-2023, 11:48 AM
daily reminder basanos is poor

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 11:49 AM
daily reminder basanos is poor

and a stay at home "cat dad"

Basanos
02-14-2023, 11:53 AM
Way to show that you measure people based on their value, just as capitalism has trained you to do. You boys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 11:56 AM
Way to show that you measure people based on their value, just as capitalism has trained you to do. You boys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

If there was no capitalism, and we were just in the woods all alone and you sat your fat ass on the ground all day petting your cat - I wouldn't respect you either.

You'd get NONE of my squirrel or deer meat.

I can judge someone just fine without Capitalist propaganda, thank you.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 11:58 AM
That's great that you are that bitter and bothered by posts on the elf forum but I don't need your respect, either.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 12:01 PM
That's great that you are that bitter and bothered by posts on the elf forum but I don't need your respect, either.

I'm not bothered by your posts - I'm bothered that you're a stay at home cat dad.

I believe the Soviets would have thrown you into a collective potato farm or a gulag. You sound like a privileged Kulak to me.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 12:04 PM
Basanos:

https://i.ibb.co/pQwRpDt/3wt0v22t0zha1.png

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 12:05 PM
https://i.ibb.co/sCgTbmk/330837415-668739195257112-2154046322873355183-n.jpg

Basanos
02-14-2023, 12:08 PM
I thought I was poor, and therefore, bad. Kulaks were not poor, by definition.

Anyways, don't hurt yourself in confusion. I have to go back to work next month.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 12:11 PM
Kulaks were not poor, by definition.

Lol yes, they were.

They were peasants who just happened to have one more cow than their neighbor.

Or, they were just peasants who couldn't keep up with Moscow's quota, in most cases.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 12:19 PM
All arguments on the internet are arguments over definitions. I am not going to waste any more time on this subject.

I am, however, going to remember that you claim to be anti-authoritarian yet you order people according to what you think is their net worth.

No wonder you get so angry about definitions

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 12:24 PM
All arguments on the internet are arguments over definitions. I am not going to waste any more time on this subject.

I am, however, going to remember that you claim to be anti-authoritarian yet you order people according to what you think is their net worth.

No wonder you get so angry about definitions

Well every definition I can find starts with "a peasant". If I have to use the word peasant to describe you - you aren't rich.

And surrounding the political climate back then, one of the persistent undercurrents of the agricultural debates of the NEP period was that the 'Left Opposition' and various factions around Stalin was a promise to get tough on the peasant Kulaks.

This made the Kulaks a natural scapegoat and enemy during collectivization since the Soviet state could, and would, ascribe any peasant resistance to this class enemy.

Poor peasants defending their seed grain and animals could suddenly become evidence of Kulak exploitation. This was what made collectivization so violent; the Soviet state had a dogmatic vision of the peasantry that did not match its social reality.

And there's absolutely nothing authoritarian about not respecting someone.

I'm not forcing you to get a job at gunpoint (like leftist communists do).

I just won't respect you if you don't.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 12:35 PM
No, I have to go back to work because we were denied long term disability (because of capitalism)

So far we're over a million in total billed (because of capitalism)

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 12:53 PM
No, I have to go back to work because we were denied long term disability (because of capitalism)

So far we're over a million in total billed (because of capitalism)

Sounds like you got denied because you can work.

Maybe be less lazy?

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 12:57 PM
Wondering why you either won’t hear about the latest shooting on mainstream media or if you did it will be memory holed in less than a day?

Here’s why

booter
02-14-2023, 01:09 PM
it's all the media is talking about, even lIbrUhl npr

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:13 PM
The people watching only care if it was hate crime motivated.

:o sad but true!

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:15 PM
Wondering why you either won’t hear about the latest shooting on mainstream media or if you did it will be memory holed in less than a day?

Here’s why

hah i didn't check fox news about that story, not a single other source mentioned that it was a middle aged black man.

surprise surprise.

yet they still plaster the acquitted-on-all-charges kyle rittenhouse's face all over cnn

hmm hmm, which demographic in the US commits the most gun violence?

Libtards, go look up fbi statistics as you scramble to defend your life choices.

oh look, i did it for you:

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

Young Black Americans (ages 15 to 34) experience the highest rates of gun homicides across all demographics. Black Americans are 10 times more likely than white Americans to die by gun homicide.

You make the beds that you sleep in, Libtards.

You want real change? You are gonna have to start with blue city leadership.

but you wont, because those blue city leaders will spew out all the right phrases, BLM! LGBTQ! Universal Income! Green Energy!

then hearing those words you libtards will feel a wetness in your crotch and be mesmerized into voting straight blue tickets.

The End.

of America.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 01:17 PM
The people watching only care if it was hate crime motivated.

:o sad but true!

If the shooter is white it’s white supremacy

If the shooter is black it’s the gun’s fault

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 01:21 PM
but you wont, because those blue city leaders will spew out all the right phrases, BLM! LGBTQ! Universal Income! Green Energy!

then hearing those words you libtards will feel a wetness in your crotch and be mesmerized into voting straight blue tickets.


What are you talking about?

Dem leadership has turned blue cities with large black populations into complete utopia’s

Check out Chicago’s new measure to fix everything: free money. They should put a clause in there that the only string attached is the money must be spent on either alcohol, cigarettes, or fentanyl

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:22 PM
If the shooter is white it’s white supremacy

If the shooter is black it’s the gun’s fault

what is it when a white guy just shoots a white guy

its gotta be white supremacy somehow, im just not connecting the dots

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:25 PM
What are you talking about?

Dem leadership has turned blue cities with large black populations into complete utopia’s

Check out Chicago’s new measure to fix everything: free money. They should put a clause in there that the only string attached is the money must be spent on either alcohol, cigarettes, or fentanyl

ah yes. the democrat utopia, where everyone in Flint, Michigan has to boil their water before consumption. again for the 50th time.

oh, and their water still has lead, arsenic, mercury etc in it. boiling won't remove that!

no idea how a democrat can even speak the word "infrastructure" without bursting out laughing.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:26 PM
If the shooter is black it’s the gun’s fault

Unless they were a cop, then it's white supremacy again.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:27 PM
Unless they were a cop, then it's white supremacy again.

yeah even if the cop is black.

its white supremacy

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 01:27 PM
no idea how a democrat can even speak the word "infrastructure" without bursting out laughing.

Pete Buttigieg addressing the shitty US railways by saying too many white people in hard hats lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVn6fwzWGU

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 01:29 PM
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-disproportionately-and-overwhelmingly-hurts-communities-of-color/

That's John Podesta no cap.

Really weird Lib owning here.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:29 PM
I really don't want to live in 1 America anymore and want two of them.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:30 PM
Pete Buttigieg addressing the shitty US railways by saying too many white people in hard hats lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVn6fwzWGU

I'd say that guy can go eat a bag of dicks, but uh, you know

it wouldn't have the same impact

so, he can go munch on a yeasty vagina.

that should be sufficiently offensive to a gay

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:34 PM
We need to bring throwing rotten fruit at politicians again.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:36 PM
We need to bring throwing rotten fruit at politicians again.

someone beaned ted cruz with a beer can

Horza
02-14-2023, 01:42 PM
ah yes. the democrat utopia, where everyone in Flint, Michigan has to boil their water before consumption. again for the 50th time.

oh, and their water still has lead, arsenic, mercury etc in it. boiling won't remove that!

no idea how a democrat can even speak the word "infrastructure" without bursting out laughing.

How can Democrats even say the name of one of the numerous bills they passed in the last few years? It's not like Trump goes around bragging about the tax cuts he got for the ultra-wealthy elites he flew on Epstein's plane with.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:52 PM
How can Democrats even say the name of one of the numerous bills they passed in the last few years?

Yeah so far they have fixed

Police violence: nope
Health care: nope
Train unions: lol nope
Ended war spending: nope lol
Made executives pay: HAHA nope
Helped the little guy: the little guy is a trumper, i hope the little guy is arrested.

Horza
02-14-2023, 01:55 PM
Yeah so far they have fixed

Police violence: nope
Health care: nope
Train unions: lol nope
Ended war spending: nope lol
Made executives pay: HAHA nope
Helped the little guy: the little guy is a trumper, i hope the little guy is arrested.

Better elect some Republicans so they can cut taxes more for the guys Trump met while flying regularly on Epstein's underage sex plane?

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:56 PM
Better elect some Republicans so they can cut taxes more for the guys Trump met while flying regularly on Epstein's underage sex plane?

Last republican almost ended this corrupt American experiment.

Sorry you love your white supremist utopia so much you want it to last for 1000 years.

Horza
02-14-2023, 01:59 PM
Last republican almost ended this corrupt American experiment.

Sorry you love your white supremist utopia so much you want it to last for 1000 years.

A collapse of American society probably isn't going to end up the way that you race war/Fox News addicts think, everybody is just going to starve to death in a few months.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:01 PM
A collapse of American society probably isn't going to end up the way that you race war/Fox News addicts think, everybody is just going to starve to death in a few months.

ohh little white supremist wants to maintain his wealth.

Horza
02-14-2023, 02:05 PM
ohh little white supremist wants to maintain his wealth.

As crazy as it sounds, I'd rather not end up dead because methed up evangelicals destroy the country after an unpopular pedophile lost an election or three.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:09 PM
Ok folks.

Here's what we're up against.

This guy literally thinks that trump would result in him dying lol.

Quite the messianic prophecy you have there, just to maintain a 1000 year Reich.

Horza
02-14-2023, 02:13 PM
Ok folks.

Here's what we're up against.

This guy literally thinks that trump would result in him dying lol.

Quite the messianic prophecy you have there, just to maintain a 1000 year Reich.

You just said you'd like to vote for another Republican because the last one almost ended this corrupt American experiment. Your party is basically just a suicide pact that can't appeal to voters who aren't already born again Christians and other paste eating retards at this point.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:13 PM
My party lol you fuckn retard, I've never not voted for a democrat.

Patrece
02-14-2023, 02:19 PM
Take it easy, no use defending or trying to convince people that these cost of living hikes and wars are a good thing now.


"You only voted for Trump cuz you care about RICH people" lmfao

Dark Brandon is crushing the lower class rn. I'm glad if they voted for him. If they were too stupid to know it before, they just learned.

Toxigen
02-14-2023, 02:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VmA6goZ.jpg

Horza
02-14-2023, 02:22 PM
Take it easy, no use defending or trying to convince people these cost of living hikes and wars are a good thing now.

You're right about one thing, there's no use trying to convince people to vote for Epstein's pal that cost you guys the last three elections.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:22 PM
You're a proud Democrat, yet you waste hours everyday defending an obese pedophile on a dead MMO forum?

Yes.

Now please, stop trying to help.

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VmA6goZ.jpg

Typical Republican tangent rather than dealing with the gun problem in America.


"I am filled with rage that we have to have another press conference to talk about our children being killed in our schools," Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin, who represents the area, said. "If this is not a wake-up call to do something, then I don't know what is."

High-ranking Michigan Dem says 'f--- your thoughts and prayers' after Michigan State mass shooting (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/high-ranking-michigan-dem-says-f-your-thoughts-prayers-michigan-state-mass-shooting)

"We are not even two full months into 2023, and this marks the 67th mass shooting of the year, along with over 2,215 gun deaths,"

Toxigen
02-14-2023, 02:36 PM
Typical Republican tangent rather than dealing with the gun problem in America.

typical liberal dipshit thinking we have a gun problem in america to begin with

we have lots of issues but the fact that guns exist isnt one of 'em

but hey, BLM, right?

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:38 PM
typical liberal dipshit thinking we have a gun problem in america to begin with

we have lots of issues but the fact that guns exist isnt one of 'em

but hey, BLM, right?

yeah guns are only tool to make the mass killing easier.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:39 PM
Typical Republican tangent rather than dealing with the gun problem in America.


Democrats ignore the issue if the shooter is black, soooo you're just as bad if not worse

Ooloo
02-14-2023, 02:40 PM
Banning guns is just trading one bodycount for another. Libs never consider the fact that without guns being around, every person who has ever been saved by a gun would be dead. Unfortunately "person saved from knife murder by a bystander with a gun" don't typically make headlines, especially in the lefty-dominated mainstream news cycle.

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:40 PM
Democrats ignore the issue if the shooter is black, soooo you're just as bad if not worse

Dead kids yet again and you make it a skin color issue rather than a gun problem.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:43 PM
Dead kids yet again and you make it a skin color issue rather than a gun problem.

That's rich: https://www.indy100.com/news/chris-rock-betty-white-meme-us-shootings-racism-el-pasto-dayton-9054436

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:43 PM
Banning guns is just trading one bodycount for another. Libs never consider the fact that without guns being around, every person who has ever been saved by a gun would be dead. Unfortunately "person saved from knife murder by a bystander with a gun" don't typically make headlines, especially in the lefty-dominated mainstream news cycle.

Saved by a gun killed by a gun doesn't change the fact that there are too many of them with too many options to make them excellent easy access killing tools.

And I can't even buy a high level light since they are banned.

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:47 PM
That's rich: https://www.indy100.com/news/chris-rock-betty-white-meme-us-shootings-racism-el-pasto-dayton-9054436

August 2019 and one mans view? Your one man. That doesn't make your view right.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:49 PM
Does the crypto spammer seems more coherent than dino to anyone else? Muh racist Democrats lmao no wonder 90% of blacks voted Biden.

All you need to do is tell them you eat a lot of hot sauce or tell them "You ain't Black if you don't vote for me".

https://i.ibb.co/3pyMjLN/tumblr-o5u9j486h-G1r83d7lo6-250.gif

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/30/white-liberals-dumb-themselves-down-when-they-speak-black-people-new-study-contends/

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:49 PM
And I can't even buy a high level light since they are banned.

So you're the type of guy that buys floodlights and complains about your neighbors asking you to turn them off?

Horza
02-14-2023, 02:50 PM
All you need to do is tell them you eat a lot of hot sauce or tell them "You ain't Black if you don't vote for me".

https://i.ibb.co/3pyMjLN/tumblr-o5u9j486h-G1r83d7lo6-250.gif

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/30/white-liberals-dumb-themselves-down-when-they-speak-black-people-new-study-contends/

You could always try saying a whole ethnicity are rapists and murderers, I heard that worked out well for the pedophile you all worship.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:51 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/54uz2r.jpg

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:52 PM
You could always try saying a whole ethnicity are rapists and murderers, I heard that worked out well for the pedophile you all worship.

Lol he didn't say that.

And he still won the Presidency that year.

Cope.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:52 PM
You could always try saying a whole ethnicity are rapists and murderers, I heard that worked out well for the pedophile you all worship.

first of all he said nothing that had anything to do with ethnicity, let alone the whole of one, only you grouped them as such.

This is not me worshiping a pedophile, this is me calling you a flat out racist that defines people by their ethnicity.

I been a democrat anti racist my whole life, I know a reactionary racist when I see one.

Horza
02-14-2023, 02:54 PM
He didn't say that, he didn't say people should inject bleach, he didn't fly on Epstein's underage sex plane for years, don't you guys ever get tired of defending such an obvious moron? What's the term the zoomers are using these days, nepobaby?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:57 PM
How Google writes about a mass shooter:

https://i.ibb.co/CWT5fPZ/Screenshot-20230214-135543-Chrome.jpg

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:57 PM
He didn't say that, he didn't say people should inject bleach, he didn't fly on Epstein's underage sex plane for years

Glad you're learning.

Now go figure out why after 100 days riots and running on BLM riots your guys solution is non existent.

Patrece
02-14-2023, 02:57 PM
Anyone who supports politics that creates this kind of stuff isn't even a human being to me anymore


https://twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1625507053929111552

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:58 PM
He didn't say that, he didn't say people should inject bleach, he didn't fly on Epstein's underage sex plane for years, don't you guys ever get tired of defending such an obvious moron? What's the term the zoomers are using these days, nepobaby?

He literally didn't.

You are lying.

Trump never said that an entire demographic are rapists and murderers.

You are fucking retarded.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:02 PM
Lol

https://baptistnews.com/article/saving-our-churches-from-dylann-roofs-white-jesus/

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:03 PM
I guess that's a no, you don't get tired of defending the fat pedophile and white grievance politics?

You're either intentionally lying.

Or

Too retarded to know the truth.

Either is bad.

Shoo

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 03:05 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/54uz2r.jpg

The shooter was a Seahawk??

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:17 PM
You're either intentionally lying.

Or

Too retarded to know the truth.

Either is bad.

Shoo

Seriously though, who wants to vote for a creep who flew on Epstein's aptly-named Lolita Express? Screaming all day about how those people are coming for the white children is really only going to get you so far.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:18 PM
All you care about is if a democrat is in the white house? If everything is exactly the same, it's ok because a democrat is in the white house?

Damn anyone who threatens the traditions of the united states goverment?

Sounds pretty conservative to me.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:22 PM
Screaming all day about how those people are coming for the white children is really only going to get you so far.

Have you ever listened to Trump speak for more than the 30 second clips you get on CNN?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:22 PM
The shooter was a Seahawk??

That was a mass shooting from 2021.

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:23 PM
All you care about is if a democrat is in the white house? If everything is exactly the same, it's ok because a democrat is in the white house?

Damn anyone who threatens the traditions of the united states goverment?

Sounds pretty conservative to me.

I'm just hoping they can undo the damage McConnell did stacking SCOTUS with mouth breathing fundamentalists like yourself, if that means the GOP has to lose every election until the pedophile in charge of your party strokes out then so be it.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 03:24 PM
I’ve actually been saying this for a while

Bring back stop and frisk

Basanos
02-14-2023, 03:27 PM
Banning guns is just trading one bodycount for another. Libs never consider the fact that without guns being around, every person who has ever been saved by a gun would be dead. Unfortunately "person saved from knife murder by a bystander with a gun" don't typically make headlines, especially in the lefty-dominated mainstream news cycle.This guy still thinks the mainstream news is leftist, lmao.

Take this mentality and apply it to to healthcare, doofus

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:30 PM
This guy still thinks the mainstream news is leftist, lmao.

Take this mentality and apply it to to healthcare, doofus

Oh yeah, healthcare, where is that? Oh I forgot, wrapped up in a bomb being shipped to a war you think we need.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:32 PM
This guy still thinks the mainstream news is leftist, lmao

It is though. Pew Research did an extensive study on it.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/81796/images/Pew_mediapolarization_ideologicalplacementsourceau dience.png

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:34 PM
Fox News is the number one cable news channel in the country, you paste eating retards are mainstream when it comes to conservative politics.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:36 PM
Fox News is the number one cable news channel in the country, you paste eating retards are mainstream when it comes to conservative politics.

Yeah, you know why?

Because they're the ONLY mainstream outlet for Conservative news.

Meanwhile, there are hundreds of options for Leftists, so the amount of attention is split up.

It's very simple.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:37 PM
Fox News is the number one cable news channel in the country, you paste eating retards are mainstream when it comes to conservative politics.

that's because only old conservatives watch tv

back in my day, democrats used to use ration and reason before opening their mouths

Yeah, you know why?

Because they're the ONLY mainstream outlet for Conservative news.

It's very simple.

and that

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 03:38 PM
Lol

“Of course we expected bewilderment from people who still think of race as biology. We frequently get letters accusing us of being "racists," just like the KKK, and have even been called a "hate group."”

- nahhh, I would never accuse you of that!

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:38 PM
Yeah, you know why?

Because they're the ONLY mainstream outlet for Conservative news.

Meanwhile, there are hundreds of options for Leftists, so the amount of attention is split up.

It's very simple.

CEO of CNN is a Republican now and something like 75% of Democrats wouldn't qualify as leftists to anyone that isn't already a fringe right lunatic like yourself, foaming at the mouth about how the jab is how Gates gets his chips in you.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 03:38 PM
It is though. Pew Research did an extensive study on it.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/81796/images/Pew_mediapolarization_ideologicalplacementsourceau dience.pngNow who is buying in to liberal bullshit?

That chart starts on the right and ends on the right, that's why they can't even include a rag like Jacobin

Plus, it says it's the audience, smart guy

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:39 PM
The average democrat these days literally pays out of pocket for news and pornography, and then tries to convince us they are smarter.

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:41 PM
Now who is buying in to liberal bullshit?

That chart starts on the right and ends on the right, that's why they can't even include a rag like Jacobin

Plus, it says it's the audience, smart guy

That's why Fox News is so far to the left of Breitbart, hundreds of thousands of our fellow Biden voters hate watching Tucker.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 03:41 PM
Just a bit o’ legal discrimination!

Basanos
02-14-2023, 03:43 PM
That's why Fox News is so far to the left of Breitbart, hundreds of thousands of our fellow Biden voters hate watching Tucker.The fact that anyone on Earth thinks the New York Times is leftist is proof of the effectiveness of propaganda. Those fuckers have been running interference for the CIA for decades

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:45 PM
Now who is buying in to liberal bullshit?

"Everything I don't like is liberal bullshit"

I thought you Tankies blamed the CIA for everything?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:46 PM
The fact that anyone on Earth thinks the New York Times is leftist is proof of the effectiveness of propaganda. Those fuckers have been running interference for the CIA for decades

They also praised Joseph Stalin and attempted to cover up the Holodomor, so yeah...they're Leftist.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:46 PM
The fact that anyone on Earth thinks the New York Times is leftist is proof of the effectiveness of propaganda. Those fuckers have been running interference for the CIA for decades

leftism is dead sorry you dont realize youre thrashing in a mass grave.

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:48 PM
leftism is dead sorry you dont realize youre thrashing in a mass grave.

Continuing to vote for the fat pedophile who cost the GOP the last three elections is a reasonable course of action :p

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:49 PM
Let's see where mainstream news is according to All Sides:

https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/AllSidesMediaBiasChart-Version7.1.jpg

Skarne
02-14-2023, 03:49 PM
Jfc guys how are y’all still goin on and on

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:50 PM
Continuing to vote for the fat pedophile who cost the GOP the last three elections is a reasonable course of action :p

No god dammit I told you I didn't vote for him like 50 million times. Not voting for shitty candidates like bidden, and supporting them the way you do is the only way.

You think if trump will get elected, you literally will die.

And you think if anyone critisizes a democrat they vote for trump.

You're a reactionary.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:52 PM
Jfc guys how are y’all still goin on and on

I could argue with a brick wall (and often do on this thread)

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 03:53 PM
Memes memes memes

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:54 PM
It's been 3 years since trump lost and these guys still say trump trump paste trump, if you criticize Buttigieg.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:55 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/b1XBBHnBmyp2.jpeg

Horza
02-14-2023, 03:55 PM
Jfc guys how are y’all still goin on and on

I'll be making fun of Fox News addicts like dino and Jib long after I'm dead once Musk makes AI simulacra a reality, the guy is really obsessed with Iain Banks novels so it's only a matter of time.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:55 PM
https://media.communities.win/post/9cyb3SgI0kc9.jpeg

Basanos
02-14-2023, 03:56 PM
Buttigieg sucked when he was running and he sucks more now. I liked him more when he was Mayor Pete, gayest former CIA agent who had fixed bread prices.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 03:56 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/b1XBBHnBmyp2.jpeg

Yeah where has Greta been?

I think this warrants a few How Dare You’s to Mr Infrastructure Secretary

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:57 PM
ROFL

https://media.patriots.win/post/JMlwZVHcUXQg.jpeg

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 03:58 PM
..,

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:59 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/pUMAfXjUjRl6.jpeg

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:01 PM
Let's see where mainstream news is according to All Sides:

https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/AllSidesMediaBiasChart-Version7.1.jpg

Newsweek publishes op-eds by Dinesh D’Souza and the Pizzagate-guy himself Jack Posobiec since they were purchased by born again Christians in 2010. The 2000 Mules guy not a right-winger, I'm dying here lmao imagine thinking Newsweek is a centrist publication.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:03 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/rtLVPcfvDa8a.jpeg

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 04:04 PM
^
Bring back stop and frisk!

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:04 PM
Newsweek publishes op-eds by Dinesh D’Souza and the Pizzagate-guy himself Jack Posobiec since they were purchased by born again Christians in 2010. The 2000 Mules guy not a right-winger, I'm dying here lmao imagine thinking Newsweek is a centrist publication.

You're welcome to deny their science:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/newsweek

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:06 PM
Newsweek has also failed to disclose potential conflicts of interest emerging in the content published through Hammer’s opinion section and his podcast. Hammer donated to the campaign of Arizona U.S. Senate candidate Blake Masters and at least four times published the work of a man who ran one of Masters’ fundraisers. On his podcast, Hammer told Newsweek’s audience to “go ahead and vote for Blake Masters.”

Hammer also promoted hard-right Hungarian leader Viktor Orban in a Newsweek dispatch authored from Hungary, without disclosing that he arrived there in collaboration with a group directly affiliated with the Hungarian government. (https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/11/04/newsweek-embraces-anti-democracy-hard-right)

What is it with you Trumptards and stanning Orban? The guy is straight up in Putin's pocket, he's the last strongman in Europe.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:07 PM
Newsweek publishes op-eds by Dinesh D’Souza and the Pizzagate-guy himself Jack Posobiec since they were purchased by born again Christians in 2010. The 2000 Mules guy not a right-winger, I'm dying here lmao imagine thinking Newsweek is a centrist publication.Lmfao they put Jacobin right there with the NYT opinions :D

No wonder Erectile Dysfunction is politically illiterate, he's using clueless liberal sources from former Silicon Valley people as a yardstick for his definition of liberalism. Like asking a kid how much candy they really ate.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:10 PM
Lmfao they put Jacobin right there with the NYT opinions :D

They're both on the Left.

So they go in the same column.

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:11 PM
Lmfao they put Jacobin right there with the NYT opinions :D

No wonder Erectile Dysfunction is politically illiterate, he's using clueless liberal sources from former Silicon Valley people as a yardstick for his definition of liberalism. Like asking a kid how much candy they really ate.

Reading his fundamentalists who own Newsweek be political moderates graph has reminded me how old Amy Goodman is :(

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:14 PM
They're both on the Left.

So they go in the same column.I enjoy it when conservatives argue themselves into stupid positions and then are forced to defend increasingly stupider positions, but then again, that's how we ended up with Donald Trump as president

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:20 PM
I enjoy it when conservatives argue themselves into stupid positions and then are forced to defend increasingly stupider positions, but then again, that's how we ended up with Donald Trump as president

I mean, you can gaslight yourself and plug your ears all you want.

The New York Times and Jacobin are both on the Left.

If you'd like to see their data:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times-opinion-media-bias

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/jacobin-media-bias

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:21 PM
Let's see where mainstream news is according to All Sides:

https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/AllSidesMediaBiasChart-Version7.1.jpg

The Hill is also obviously right-leaning, they published that op-ed by John Solomon about the Uranium One conspiracy and George Soros. If that's considered leftist content, the website may have a problem in that its users are so overwhelmingly right-wing that it's biasing your results.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:22 PM
The Hill is also obviously right-leaning, they published that op-ed by John Solomon about the Uranium One conspiracy and George Soros. If that shit is considered leftist, I think the website may have a problem in that its userbase is so overwhelmingly right-leaning that it's biasing your results.

So if a news outlet allows ONE right winger to write an article for them, they are no longer considered "Centrist"?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:24 PM
The New York Times literally endorses leftist politicians

"The New York Times isn't Leftist!"

lol

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:24 PM
So if a news outlet allows ONE right winger to write an article for them, they are no longer considered "Centrist"?

You let ONE fringe maniac say that international Jewry are conspiring against the white race and people start asking questions about your political leanings :p

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:25 PM
I mean, you can gaslight yourself and plug your ears all you want.

The New York Times and Jacobin are both on the Left.

If you'd like to see their data:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times-opinion-media-bias

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/jacobin-media-biasHaha he just keeps doubling down. I wonder how many people have died in the USA due to this form of arrogance.

Especially hilarious when you recall that this man-boy thinks the elections were all rigged because he didn't like the results. Yeah elections can be rigged with zero evidence but this one website is infalliable.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:26 PM
You let ONE fringe maniac say that international Jewry are conspiring against the white race and people start asking questions about your political leanings :p

Yeah, because THAT happened lol :rolleyes:

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:27 PM
Haha he just keeps doubling down. I wonder how many people have died in the USA due to this form of arrogance.

Especially hilarious when you recall that this man-boy thinks the elections were all rigged because he didn't like the results. Yeah elections can be rigged with zero evidence but this one website is infalliable.

Yeah, all the data, science, public voting, editorial voting is wrong.

It's YOU who is right!

rofl

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:28 PM
Yeah, because THAT happened lol :rolleyes:

That's literally what Solomon alleges in the Hill op-ed, he says Soros sold out the country to Putin to get uranium for his nuclear program.

It's your standard GOP-endorsed antisemitic conspiracy theory, but hardly a centrist position.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:28 PM
From my link:

"Jacobin is transparent about its bias. On its About page, Jacobin states that it is "a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture." Because it is a self-proclaimed socialist publication, AllSides rates Jacobin's media bias as Left with high confidence."

Basanos: "Jacobin isn't Leftist!"

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:29 PM
Oh shit I just saw one of the people that is a Sandy Hook survivor also survived that Michigan State one last night. I mean, unless it's fake or something but that seems wild enough to be plausible.

The zoomers are gonna be merciless to us and I don't totally blame them

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 04:29 PM
Let's see where mainstream news is according to All Sides:

https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/AllSidesMediaBiasChart-Version7.1.jpg

Where's rollcall? I think you are linking journalism

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:30 PM
That's literally what Solomon alleges in the Hill op-ed, he says Soros sold out the country to Putin to get uranium for his nuclear program.

"Soros sold out the country to Putin to get uranium for his nuclear program"

sounds a bit different than:

"international Jewry are conspiring against the white race"

LOL

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:31 PM
From my link:

"Jacobin is transparent about its bias. On its About page, Jacobin states that it is "a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture." Because it is a self-proclaimed socialist publication, AllSides rates Jacobin's media bias as Left with high confidence."

Basanos: "Jacobin isn't Leftist!"Doofus you have it backwards. Jacobin is obviously kind of leftist, at least a little. I've been getting copies for years.

It's that they are placed in the same column as the others, that furthest left category obviously needs to be a bit wider.

Sorry you let the news dictate political beliefs to you, bro. Join a real life political group and gain perspective.

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:33 PM
Where's rollcall? I think you are linking journalism

He just didn't realize it's audience from a volunteer survey and not an objective survey of the writers' political leanings or something.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 04:33 PM
The New York Times opinion section and Jacobin are both on the Left.



Ftfy

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:35 PM
Imagine using the political equivalent of Metacritic to argue with a a bunch of Biden voters why they should change their minds about the obese pedophile you worship :p

Toxigen
02-14-2023, 04:35 PM
i get all my news from /pol

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:37 PM
Ftfy

The New York Times News leans Left as well:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times

PRogers
02-14-2023, 04:38 PM
The sad truth of it all is this. This applies to everyone, even me.

It does not matter if you're right, if nobody likes you.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:39 PM
The New York Times News leans Left as well:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times"The police conducted an internal investigation and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing."

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:39 PM
Imagine using the political equivalent of Metacritic to argue with a a bunch of Biden voters why they should change their minds about the obese pedophile you worship :p

I'm sorry science made you mad

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:39 PM
Internet science, just like when Reddit went after the wrong guy during the Boston bombing!

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:41 PM
"The police conducted an internal investigation and cleared themselves of any wrongdoing."

Blind Studies are definitely biased :rolleyes:

https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/NYT-simplegraph.jpg

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:42 PM
Internet science, just like when Reddit went after the wrong guy during the Boston bombing!

I'm sorry science made you mad

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:42 PM
I'm sorry science made you mad

I don't know if you're taking requests, but can you do Rasmussen next?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:43 PM
I don't know if you're taking requests, but can you do Rasmussen next?

They are Right wing:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/rasmussen-reports

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:46 PM
They are Right wing:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/rasmussen-reports

So says the website dino found, so shall it be. Pizzagate conspiracy theories are no longer right-wing trash, that's now the political center.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:47 PM
So says the website dino found, so shall it be. Pizzagate conspiracy theories are no longer right-wing trash, that's now the political center.

Rasmussen IS right wing though.

Did you think you'd catch the website in a lie, claiming it was Leftist or something?

lol

Basanos
02-14-2023, 04:48 PM
Blind Studies are definitely biased :rolleyes:

https://www.allsides.com/sites/default/files/NYT-simplegraph.jpgLol he still doesn't see the problem with this "argument" and just keeps doubling down.

The status quo is a broad, wet blanket bruh

Horza
02-14-2023, 04:51 PM
Rasmussen IS right wing though.

Did you think you'd catch the website in a lie, claiming it was Leftist or something?

lol

Newsweek and the Hill aren't centrist publications but rather explicitly right-wing for at least the last decade or so, that's the lie. Not sure how many times I have to repeat myself here, the survey is flawed beyond use if Pizzagate is considered a centrist position.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:52 PM
Lol he still doesn't see the problem with this "argument" and just keeps doubling down.

The status quo is a broad, wet blanket bruh

Please enlighten me on how Blind Studies don't work.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:56 PM
Newsweek and the Hill aren't centrist publications but rather explicitly right-wing for at least the last decade or so, that's the lie. Not sure how many times I have to repeat myself here, the survey is flawed beyond use if Pizzagate is considered a centrist position.

Feel free to search through the data and articles that show that they're quite Centrist.

For example, Newsweek put this article out yesterday: https://www.allsides.com/news/2023-02-13-1059/polarization-jesus-super-bowl-commercial-connected-anti-lgbtq-anti-abortion

It's HARDLY right wing. It bashes the right.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 04:56 PM
Just because millions of people think Don Lemon is a communist doesn't mean he isn't a wealthy, milquetoast liberal.

Do you even know what a Blind Study is?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:00 PM
Newsweek lets Robert Reich write an article:
https://www.newsweek.com/get-george-santos-hell-out-congress-opinion-1781228

DEFINITELY Right wing lol

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:00 PM
Do you even know what a Blind Study is?

I don't know why I'm bothering trying to convince a paste eater like yourself, who claims pushing a conspiracy theory that Hillary and Soros worked together with Putin to undermine the country somehow isn't a right-wing position.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 05:01 PM
The New York Times News leans Left as well:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times

Lean left means Lib. As does lean Right.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:01 PM
Lean left means Lib. As does lean Right.

Nice try.

No.

"Sources with a Lean Left AllSides Media Bias Rating™ display bias in ways that moderately align with liberal, progressive, or left-wing thought and/or policy agendas."

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:02 PM
Lean left means Lib. As does lean Right.

But center means you think Pizzagate is real :D

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:03 PM
I don't know why I'm bothering trying to convince a paste eater like yourself, who claims pushing a conspiracy theory that Hillary and Soros worked together with Putin to undermine the country somehow isn't a right-wing position.

You actually don't know what a Blind Study is....

wow.

lol

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:04 PM
But center means you think Pizzagate is real :D

I bet you do think that way.

Anyone right of Chairman Mao believes Pizzagate is real.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 05:08 PM
But center means you think Pizzagate is real :D

what was pizzagate? you bring it up alot, at least once per page. it's almost like you feel a sense of solidarity with the players in the scandal

please refresh my memory, what was that all about?

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:11 PM
You actually don't know what a Blind Study is....

wow.

lol

John Solomon columns on Ukraine ripped in newspaper's internal investigation for conflicts and distortions.

In effect, the Hill said Solomon amplified an inaccurate and one-sided narrative about the Bidens and Ukraine that was fed to him by Giuliani, “facilitated” by businessman Lev Parnas, who was working with Giuliani at the time, and reinforced by Solomon’s own attorneys, who also represented clients embroiled in U.S.-Ukraine politics. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/john-solomon-columns-on-ukraine-ripped-in-newspapers-internal-investigation-for-conflicts-and-distortions/2020/02/19/f626c5b6-532c-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html)

Regardless of the methodology, the results of the survey are that a publication like the Hill is considered center-leaning despite having retracted like a dozen Solomon hit pieces on Hillary and Biden. It always ends up being Giuliani and his Ukrainian goons :p

Basanos
02-14-2023, 05:12 PM
what was pizzagate? you bring it up alot, at least once per page. it's almost like you feel a sense of solidarity with the players in the scandal

please refresh my memory, what was that all about?https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYmEyY2M1NDQtZDlhMy00MmZlLTg0NDQtNTA0NGIyN2EyMW FhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjQxNDA5Njc@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.j pg

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:13 PM
Anyone right of Chairman Mao believes Pizzagate is real.

Nobody but you paste eating retards thinks Pizzagate was real, the zoomers really are going to eat you guys alive in a few years.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:16 PM
Nobody but you paste eating retards thinks Pizzagate was real, the zoomers really are going to eat you guys alive in a few years.

Right, and you think anyone right of Chairman Mao believes Pizzagate is real.

And the Zoomers will grow up and become Republicans like every generation before them :D

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:18 PM
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYmEyY2M1NDQtZDlhMy00MmZlLTg0NDQtNTA0NGIyN2EyMW FhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjQxNDA5Njc@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.j pg

I honestly want this poster. This is great

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:19 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/3xObZhWh4y9Y.jpeg

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:20 PM
Right, and you think anyone right of Chairman Mao believes Pizzagate is real.

And the Zoomers will grow up and become Republicans like every generation before them :D

Hardly anybody thinks Pizzagate is real, again not sure how many times I have to repeat myself. There's a reason you guys make five accounts on a barely moderated forum like this, even other conservatives think your extreme views are reprehensible.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:21 PM
NEW CONSPIRACY JUST DROPPED:

https://media.patriots.win/post/CXV8G9hMwBbF.jpeg

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:23 PM
Hardly anybody thinks Pizzagate is real, again not sure how many times I have to repeat myself. There's a reason you guys make five accounts on a barely moderated forum like this, even other conservatives think your extreme views are reprehensible.

https://media.tenor.com/nCEB57V8WsgAAAAM/thumbs-up-okay.gif

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:24 PM
NEW CONSPIRACY JUST DROPPED:

https://media.patriots.win/post/CXV8G9hMwBbF.jpeg

Keep this coming dino, you're how I get all the latest updates from the Alex Jones parts of the internet.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:25 PM
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1625310075505238023

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:26 PM
Keep this coming dino, you're how I get all the latest updates from the Alex Jones parts of the internet.

https://media.tenor.com/epZEhbl7XOsAAAAC/tinfoil-hat.gif

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:27 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/itYmcsdUqulV.png

Basanos
02-14-2023, 05:31 PM
Please enlighten me on how Blind Studies don't work.I don't even know what the hell they are.

I was more getting at you're going to the media to ask about the media. Allsides is a Silicon Valley type of creature, I cannot believe you would actually take them seriously if you were ever serious about your skepticism of capitalism ... or whatever your anarchist positions supposedly are.

Besides, it's all opinions and perception anyways. You could poll America about dinosaurs being real (hi elizondo) but even if ten million people say they were not, they were.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:34 PM
https://media.patriots.win/post/bgcDjyNVSYi6.jpeg

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:35 PM
I don't even know what the hell they are.

I was more getting at you're going to the media to ask about the media. Allsides is a Silicon Valley type of creature, I cannot believe you would actually take them seriously if you were ever serious about your skepticism of capitalism ... or whatever your anarchist positions supposedly are.

Besides, it's all opinions and perception anyways. You could poll America about dinosaurs being real (hi elizondo) but even if ten million people say they were not, they were.

It means the researchers don't know who they're surveying by randomizing the control group, but that doesn't change the fact that millions of his fellow Fox News addicts think Biden is a Marxist revolutionary (thus the skewed results saying Pizzagate is a centrist position).

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:38 PM
It means the researchers don't know who they're surveying by randomizing the control group, but that doesn't change the fact that millions of his fellow Fox News addicts think Biden is a Marxist revolutionary (thus the skewed results saying Pizzagate is a centrist position).

Good thing they answer that question :)

https://www.allsides.com/frequently-asked-questions#bots

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:41 PM
Are you a deep cover bot advertising this website or something? Can't be a great return on investment compared to the crypto bot in Rants and Flames earlier that had like 40 posts.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:42 PM
Are you a deep cover bot advertising this website or something? Can't be a great return on investment compared to the crypto bot in Rants and Flames earlier that had like 40 posts.

You referenced the website.

I showed you where you are mistaken about how they determine their ratings.

AKA: I'm reading for you.

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:44 PM
I never even mentioned the website until you Kramered into the thread and started lecturing us all with links and graphics about how Pizzagate isn't right-wing for some reason. So are you getting paid for this or what, at least Andrew Tate fans were getting bills.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:46 PM
I never even mentioned the website until you Kramered into the thread and started lecturing us all with links and graphics about how Pizzagate isn't right-wing for some reason.

(thus the skewed results saying Pizzagate is a centrist position).

This you?

Who was previously also complaining about how the website rated The Hill as Centrist even though they had a right winger write an article for them?

Horza
02-14-2023, 05:49 PM
This you?

Who was previously also complaining about how the website rated The Hill as Centrist even though they had a right winger write an article for them?

They just had a right-winger write a dozen op-eds they later retracted about how Jewry are working with Hillary to sell out the country to Putin and also the pizza shit :p

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 05:50 PM
Nice try.

No.

"Sources with a Lean Left AllSides Media Bias Rating™ display bias in ways that moderately align with liberal, progressive, or left-wing thought and/or policy agendas."

Liberal economics

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:51 PM
Liberal economics

Complete sentences, please.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 05:54 PM
Complete sentences, please.

When you've earned them.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 05:56 PM
When you've earned them.

What Level am I right now?

How much EXP do I have to earn to level up?

Kaveh
02-14-2023, 06:31 PM
https://media.tenor.com/epZEhbl7XOsAAAAC/tinfoil-hat.gif

Dude needs to go on a diet stat, I can’t believe they let people so ugly have shows

Horza
02-14-2023, 06:50 PM
Dude needs to go on a diet stat, I can’t believe they let people so ugly have shows

He's a billion dollars in debt because of Sandy Hook conspiracy shit, which dino probably says is now a centrist political position.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 07:47 PM
Lol HorzaBot can’t understand how mainstream media has a left bias still?

Dino said it correctly before, Fox is so big because conservatives all funnel to the same 1-3 stations, basically fox and ones that don’t matter

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 07:49 PM
He's a billion dollars in debt because of Sandy Hook conspiracy shit, which dino probably says is now a centrist political position.

Getting fined a billion dollars for saying words is insane.

I don't care who it is or who says it.

Dude got railroaded by a corrupt system.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 07:50 PM
“ Researchers from Arizona State University and Texas A&M University questioned 462 financial journalists around the country. They followed up with 18 additional interviews. The journalists worked for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press and a number of other newspapers

What they found surprised them. Even the supposedly hard-nosed financial reporters were overwhelmingly liberal. Of the 462 people surveyed, 17.63% called themselves "very liberal," while 40.84% described themselves as "somewhat liberal

What about the mythic "conservative" financial journalist? In fact, a mere 0.46% of financial journalists called themselves "very conservative," while just 3.94% said they were "somewhat conservative." That's a whopping 4.4% of the total that lean right-of-center.

That's a ratio of 13 "liberals" for every one "conservative." Whatever happened to ideological diversity?“

misterbonkers
02-14-2023, 07:58 PM
Getting fined a billion dollars for saying words is insane.

I don't care who it is or who says it.

Dude got railroaded by a corrupt system.

nah, fuck him for disrespecting people who had their children fucking murdered

i thought you cared about children? :confused:

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 07:59 PM
Even public opinion proves it. Which normally doesn't do much for proving anything else, but we're talking biases and ideological bubbles here, so it's easy to see.

Most Republican voters do not trust the media.

Most Democrat voters do trust the media.

Why? Because it either caters to their worldview or it doesn't.

The fact that most (all) Democrats hate Fox News is pretty much proof that Fox News is right wing.

Because Democrats wouldn't hate it if it wasn't.

It's just tribalism.

The Left controls the majority of media. It's just the truth.

Just like 80% of the lower enlisted in the US military tend to be Conservative. Guess what? The Left isn't too fond of the military either.

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 08:00 PM
“Reporters and other members of the media have donated at least $110,000 to candidates and parties in the upcoming election, with over 90% going to Democrats including, Joe Biden, Sen. Bernie Sanders, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, according to a new deep-dive report

The donations noted in the article are from 43 media members with, or associated with, outlets including:

CNN
Fox
Washington Post
Los Angeles Times
Hill
Washington Times
Intercept
Mother Jones
New York Post
New York Times
New York Magazine
Boston Globe
Houston Chronicle
ProPublica
McClatchy
Bloomberg
Business Insider
Those were just for large amounts. Contributions of $200 or less do not require detailed FEC reporting”

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 08:00 PM
“ Researchers from Arizona State University and Texas A&M University questioned 462 financial journalists around the country. They followed up with 18 additional interviews. The journalists worked for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press and a number of other newspapers

What they found surprised them. Even the supposedly hard-nosed financial reporters were overwhelmingly liberal. Of the 462 people surveyed, 17.63% called themselves "very liberal," while 40.84% described themselves as "somewhat liberal

What about the mythic "conservative" financial journalist? In fact, a mere 0.46% of financial journalists called themselves "very conservative," while just 3.94% said they were "somewhat conservative." That's a whopping 4.4% of the total that lean right-of-center.

That's a ratio of 13 "liberals" for every one "conservative." Whatever happened to ideological diversity?“

financial journalists. I'm not sure what Conservative finance is about. Probably Commies.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 08:02 PM
nah, fuck him for disrespecting people who had their children fucking murdered

i thought you cared about children? :confused:

If Alex Jones got pulled over for speeding, should the police officer just execute him on the spot because he's 'a shitty person'?

Fuck him, right?

No. Justice is supposed to be blind. It shouldn't matter who the person is. If it was anyone other than Alex Jones who did what he did, there's no way on the fucking planet that they would get hit with a 1 Billion dollar fine.

That is a corrupt judicial system.

There is no room for "fuck him". You give everyone a fair shot.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 08:06 PM
Considering these guys are still defending eating paste and their obese messianic figure saying people should inject bleach, crypto scams.

Horza keyword salad

unsunghero
02-14-2023, 08:06 PM
The Left controls the majority of media. It's just the truth.


Controlling academia matters more, because then you indoctrinate your journalism and communications majors with your ideology and bully any naysayers into silence

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 08:06 PM
If Alex Jones got pulled over for speeding, should the police officer just execute him on the spot because he's 'a shitty person'?

Fuck him, right?

No. Justice is supposed to be blind. It shouldn't matter who the person is. If it was anyone other than Alex Jones who did what he did, there's no way on the fucking planet that they would get hit with a 1 Billion dollar fine.

That is a corrupt judicial system.

There is no room for "fuck him". You give everyone a fair shot.

It's uncollectable so your song and dance is just for fun, Liberace.

Horza
02-14-2023, 08:07 PM
Even public opinion proves it. Which normally doesn't do much for proving anything else, but we're talking biases and ideological bubbles here, so it's easy to see.

Most Republican voters do not trust the media.

Most Democrat voters do trust the media.

Why? Because it either caters to their worldview or it doesn't.

The fact that most (all) Democrats hate Fox News is pretty much proof that Fox News is right wing.

Because Democrats wouldn't hate it if it wasn't.

It's just tribalism.

The Left controls the majority of media. It's just the truth.

Just like 80% of the lower enlisted in the US military tend to be Conservative. Guess what? The Left isn't too fond of the military either.

Republicans don't trust CNN, they most certainly trust the mainstream media as long as the talking heads are part of the right team.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 08:08 PM
Controlling academia matters more, because then you indoctrinate your journalism and communications majors with your ideology and bully any naysayers into silence

True. And that's another area which Conservatives do not trust. And it's because it's controlled by Leftists.

But a lot of that is our own fault.

Conservatives need to embrace these historically Leftist sectors of society.

Some people are working to make media, create art, etc.

Basanos
02-14-2023, 08:10 PM
Controlling academia matters more, because then you indoctrinate your journalism and communications majors with your ideology and bully any naysayers into silenceWhat is something that journalists, scientists, academics, and researchers have in common that they would disdain about far-right conservative Republicans?

Gee, I wonder if you could be interpretening that as bias?

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 08:10 PM
Republicans don't trust CNN, they most certainly trust the mainstream media as long as the talking heads are part of the right team.

Conservatives do not trust CNN. Correct.

It's the Leftwing Fox News.

Every thing is just mirrored when it comes to politics.