the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[starkind]

Isn't ben like super short. Like 5'5''?

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/ejEdAOt.jpg

[Ooloo]

https://i.imgur.com/ejEdAOt.jpg

Are you posting that cause you understand that it's funny? Please tell me you are that would be awesome!

[Horza]

Are you posting that cause you understand that it's funny? Please tell me you are that would be awesome!

There's a reason why there are so few conservative comedians.

[imperiouskitten]

Cool, do you have any specific rebuttal to anything he currently says? Or are you just posting a hitjob? Yes, he no longer believes some things that he used to believe. That is called growing, and being an adult.

Guy is bad!

Okay but what do you think about what he says?

It's bad! It's republican! It's right wing!

Okay but you still didn't actually say anything.

Ahhhh!! I'm angry!

Please dispense with the israel shit btw. Which middle eastern country would you like to live in? Syria? Iraq? Iran? Yemen? Qatar? Saudi Arabia? Jordan? Egypt? Mayyyyyyybe Israel?

are we not talking about shapiro?

I don't really care if he's "grown", he's just a larger transparent weasel grifter. This is taken as self-evident in the post ur replying to because it really is. :) He's a hatemonger, and really at best he is a neocon politically so it's pretty cringe to hitch up the old h8wagon to him imo.

you absolute masochist :)

[Jibartik]

There's a reason why there are so few conservative comedians.

what are you talking about every comedian is a racist or a transfobe or afraid of gays

what planet do you think you live on?

[imperiouskitten]

there are no good active comedians

[Horza]

what are you talking about every comedian is a racist or a transfobe or afraid of gays

what planet do you think you live on?

Trump lost, stupid.

[Knowledge]

Smoking marijuana could lead to breakthrough COVID cases, study finds. Did they do a study to see if meth heads are immune?

[Jibartik]

Trump lost, stupid.

Why do you hate him so much still? Just curious why it’s so important to you?

[Whale biologist]

are we not talking about shapiro?

I don't really care if he's "grown", he's just a larger transparent weasel grifter. This is taken as self-evident in the post ur replying to because it really is. :) He's a hatemonger, and really at best he is a neocon politically so it's pretty cringe to hitch up the old h8wagon to him imo.

you absolute masochist :)

what's a neocon? :D

[Knowledge]

You maggots still worshiping those rich politicians? Pelosi family value is up to 315mil now. $315,000,000 US dollars.

They can buy more than you cause they did more evil and broke more laws than you- does that make them a king?

[Jibartik]

Do you know with Trump Biden Shapiro pretty much every conversation that’s going on here none of it is about what they say all of it is about like the style of clothes that they wear.

[Knowledge]

Why do the vipers always talk about the trees, but never mention the forest? Because if they knew about the forest, there would be NO peace.

[Jibartik]

An art studio with 2 employees that managed Biden's sons painting sales took 500k in coved relief this last year.

[Whale biologist]

An art studio with 2 employees that managed Biden's sons painting sales took 500k in coved relief this last year.

Tromp's fault.

[JurisDictum]

Neocon is a word largely invented by the American media (mostly in the Bush era). Neoliberal is a word that was used in political science and economics all over the world before it was picked up by some media members.

So a lot of neocons can be called neoliberals as well. It's part of the whole American mind fuck -- where liberal economics is called "conservative" here, liberal everywhere else in the world.

The market is not a conservative force. Its a radical transformative force that changes traditional structures frequently ("disruption" is the buzzword). If there is something you want to conserve in American society -- chances are the market isn't gonna help you in the long run.

Neocon seems to just be a euphemism for imperialist these days. It used to also suggest the Christian Right platform -- but they are losing sway and its really not a coherent package for the public. At least for my generation and later. There is actually a lot of evidence that the Christian Right did lasting harm to both Republicans and Christian popularity.

[Jibartik]

I wonder if ww3 is going to feel more like ww1 than 2

[Knowledge]

Tromp's fault.

Yep.

[Knowledge]

I wonder if ww3 is going to feel more like ww1 than 2

nope ww3 is an invisible killer of humankind. The rest of the world is immune to it.

[Jibartik]

Id believe that.

[Whale biologist]

Neocon is a word largely invented by the American media (mostly in the Bush era). Neoliberal is a word that was used in political science and economics all over the world before it was picked up by some media members.

So a lot of neocons can be called neoliberals as well. It's part of the whole American mind fuck -- where liberal economics is called "conservative" here, liberal everywhere else in the world.

The market is not a conservative force. Its a radical transformative force that changes traditional structures frequently ("disruption" is the buzzword). If there is something you want to conserve in American society -- chances are the market isn't gonna help you in the long run.

Neocon seems to just be a euphemism for imperialist these days. It used to also suggest the Christian Right platform -- but they are losing sway and its really not a coherent package for the public. At least for my generation and later. There is actually a lot of evidence that the Christian Right did lasting harm to both Republicans and Christian popularity.

I like the ex-Trotskyist warnik lore better, attracts more noobs. :cool:

[Knowledge]

What rights did Christ have when they beat him with metal hooks and made him carry his cross of suffocation to the hill of death.

[Horza]

Why do you hate him so much still? Just curious why it’s so important to you?

I don't hate him as much as the cult of personality people like you have built up around the dumbass.

[Gatordash]

I don't hate him as much as the cult of personality people like you have built up around the dumbass.

Are you anti-lifted pickup truck?

[Mblake1981]

I don't hate him as much as the cult of personality people like you have built up around the dumbass.

Commander data couldn't beat the chinese finger trap either.

[Jibartik]

I don't hate him as much as the cult of personality people like you have built up around the dumbass.

i said nothing bad bad things about him during the election and since have literally brought him up zero times and every time i say anything bad about biden all you do is bring him up, if i critisize anything you bring him up.

if i make a joke about something you bring him up

what are you talking about people like me?

[Horza]

What's the difference between right now and a trump presidency?

Who gives a rats ass about the specifics of what the whip was made of, under biden they're just playing shoot the buffalo with the immigrants at least they had a roof and water under Trump.

Calling Trump the most hawkish military president in modern history is the most stupid way to show your hand.

No actually it was the pandemic that did it not your sports game that you care about that I dont.

But people being like you and saying things like that is all part of my vision. So laugh it up fuzzball.

And before you pretend like this wasnt you when your rape mommy lost, don't.

https://i.imgur.com/IqcHt06.png

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/HFkJX8D.jpg

"Yeeeehawwwrr muddin in my 4x4" Lt. Commander Data

[Jibartik]

None of that is pro trump horza, literally look at it, all of it is saying the same thing I said.

All of that is criticizing problems now that you give a pass to that you didnt under trump

nothing there is supportive of trump, all of it is unsupportive of blaming trump for your problems.

you only continued to prove my point. You are wrong you cant "GET ME" with my quotes to prove that I support trump because I do not, you absolute fool.

[Horza]

Nobody is trying to get you, there aren't any Democrats hiding under your bed.

[Mblake1981]

Nobody is trying to get you, there aren't any Democrats hiding under your bed.

Keep up, you almost got him!

I tell you what this is more thrillin' than cousin relations.

https://i.imgur.com/M4kB0rl.jpg

[unsunghero]

“”This is quite a deflating report," said Nick Bunker, economic research director at job placement site Indeed. "This year has been one of false dawns for the labor market. Demand for workers is strong and millions of people want to return to work, but employment growth has yet to find its footing."

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/10/08/september-jobs-report.html

[JurisDictum]

Demonstrating that the lapse in employment had little to do with the since discontinued unemployment plus-up.

[Jibartik]

Nobody is trying to get you, there aren't any Democrats hiding under your bed.

You just tried to “get me” by digging up quotes to prove you were right, that I was a trump supporter, but you’re illiterate and didn’t realize none of those quotes support tromp and you only proved my point.

And now you’re doing classic horza pretending you didn’t just say what you just said.

You fail sir. You get nothing.

[Horza]

You just tried to “get me” by digging up quotes to prove you were right, that I was a trump supporter, but you’re illiterate and didn’t realize none of those quotes support tromp and you only proved my point.

And now you’re doing classic horza pretending you didn’t just say what you just said.

You fail sir. You get nothing.

Baler/Ooloo is a Democrat and you aren't a Trump sycophant :p

[Elizondo]

Baler/Ooloo is a Democrat and you aren't a Trump sycophant :p

You always accuse people of being some other dude when your bergers are triggered

[Botten]

You always accuse people of being some other dude when your bergers are triggered

Probably because Ooloo posts like Baler. Just saying.

[Elizondo]

Probably because Ooloo posts like Baler. Just saying.

How we know you ain't Horza tho

[Botten]

How we know you ain't Horza tho

I know your not Horza. But maybe a California Republican. You seem to love the word dude a lot. Meh.

[Whale biologist]

Probably because Ooloo posts like Baler. Just saying.

Ooloo isn't Baler. I won't deadname him anymore though. :)

[Elizondo]

I know your not Horza. But maybe a California Republican. You seem to love the word dude a lot. Meh.

Yea but what if you're Horza man

HcK-My1j9Hg

[Horza]

At least Nirgon is forced to use a sockpuppet account because he got yeeted recently for racism and misogyny, Baler is just a coward.

[Elizondo]

At least Nirgon is forced to use a sockpuppet account because he got yeeted recently for racism and misogyny, Baler is just a coward.

naw man

I just think maybe your bergers be triggered

I could be wrong tho

[JurisDictum]

I don' t know how you get the point where you admit to yourself you have racist beliefs but still get absurdly upset when people call what your saying racist. It's like watching a guy fly off the handle for being called an angry bitter athiest.

[Ooloo]

Probably because Ooloo posts like Baler. Just saying.

I'm not baler, but who cares anyway? Is this some 8th grade gossip lunchtable? I thought it was a discussion forum where we discuss various topics.

Oh no, I "post like Baler". You all sound exactly the same also, womp womp.

[JurisDictum]

Baler is way more troll like for what its worth. You remind me more of micmorranis (even though that's actually an act the dude put on).

[Ooloo]

Baler is way more troll like for what its worth. You remind me more of micmorranis (even though that's actually an act the dude put on).

Well I'm not doing some 4d chess thing, I post what I think about things, not relating to p99. Which I assumed is the whole point of off-topic.

I've noticed that often when I make posts, somebody replies with a youtube link, or a six word sentence and ignores 95% of what they're replying to. I do appreciate this forum because you don't just get instabanned for wrongthink.

[Elizondo]

I'm not baler, but who cares anyway? Is this some 8th grade gossip lunchtable? I thought it was a discussion forum where we discuss various topics.

Oh no, I "post like Baler". You all sound exactly the same also, womp womp.

Yea I can agree with this

We're just chit chating about things. When low IQ peeps can't hang with the convo they start seein clone babies everywhere

[Horza]

Well I'm not doing some 4d chess thing, I post what I think about things, not relating to p99. Which I assumed is the whole point of off-topic.

I've noticed that often when I make posts, somebody replies with a youtube link, or a six word sentence and ignores 95% of what they're replying to. I do appreciate this forum because you don't just get instabanned for wrongthink.

Yea I can agree with this

We're just chit chating about things. When low IQ peeps can't hang with the convo they start seein clone babies everywhere

Why can't everyone here just be friends? Also, Democrats and Biden voters are all pedophile Satan worshippers.

[Elizondo]

Why can't everyone here just be friends? Also, Democrats and Biden voters are all pedophile Satan worshippers.

You keep sayin Orange Dude is a pedo tho without any evidence

[Botten]

Baler is way more troll like for what its worth. You remind me more of micmorranis (even though that's actually an act the dude put on).

I only think Ooloo sounds like Baler with blunt statements base on common fallacious talking narratives you would hear from FoxNews, Facebook groups or flashy TikTok video with multiple animated gifts with a spinning title with 3 explanation marks.

[Horza]

You keep sayin Orange Dude is a pedo tho without any evidence

He said he wants to date his own daughter, the guy is an absolute degenerate.

DP7yf8-Lk80

[Elizondo]

He said he wants to date his own daughter, the guy is an absolute degenerate.

Uh ...

Old Dude said he likes little kids to play with his hairy legs

What that make him?

[Elizondo]

DP7yf8-Lk80

Bro it's just a joke like stand up comedy on tv

Maybe you could be like Tom Cruise in that movie with the joker and take it to court and convince someone

[Horza]

It's just a joke doesn't seem like an adequate response when somebody says they want to bang their daughter.

[Elizondo]

It's just a joke doesn't seem like an adequate response when somebody says they want to bang their daughter.

lol dude

You didn't watch your own clip you posted

[Horza]

"Who are you, Woody Allen?" is a joke. Trump saying he wants to date his own daughter is disgusting.

[Elizondo]

"Who are you, Woody Allen?" is a joke. Trump saying he wants to date his own daughter is disgusting.

Oh ok

so when you said he said he wanted to bang his daughter that's not specifically what he said

Why you gotta lie about everything bro?

[Horza]

Oh ok

so when you said he said he wanted to bang his daughter that's not specifically what he said

Why you gotta lie about everything bro?

Of course, Republicans want to discuss the nuances that exist between banging and dating your own daughter.

[Ooloo]

Trump does bad joke. Therefor Biden, who sniffs kids, is good. Who cares? What do their actual policies entail? Oh yeah all of Biden's are worse than Trump's. And Biden had 50 years of practice in politics, including an 8-year vice-presidency, to get it right, while Trump had zero years and hosted a reality show. Yikes for Biden.

[Elizondo]

Of course, Republicans want to discuss the nuances that exist between banging and dating your own daughter.

naw man

You said he said something he didn't say. Why not just say what he said and it's obviously a joke and won't hold up in berger court

[Gravydoo II]

I guess when he walked up to that CHILD and said "ill be dating you in a few years" that wasnt creepy pedo shit, either..

I guess those decades of hanging out with epstein, clintons, and cindi yang totally not suspect either.

Just say it. Rape daddy can do no wrong. If he wants to date his daughter, if he was looking forward to her breasts to grow in as a baby, hes just being a dad. The fact that his daughter called him a "sexual predator" when they all looked at each other, awkward laugh, then went back to stern..

Oh they were just kidding..

Hanging out on Epstein island, just tanning. Wishing his friend maxwell a "good time" while shes under arrest for trafficking kids, not suspect.

Friends with matt gaetz, not suspect. Banned him from property once his case became too hot, also not suspect. LOLOL

spent 8 trillion dollars, kills 600k people, cries about losing. "oh he won" hahahahahhah

[Trexller]

maybe Obama should just run again

[Gravydoo II]

You got a daughter thats like 13? I'm almost 70, how about I walk up to her and say "ill be dating you in a few years" infront of you, dad. What you gonna do?

[Elizondo]

I guess when he walked up to that CHILD and said "ill be dating you in a few years" that wasnt creepy pedo shit, either..

I guess those decades of hanging out with epstein, clintons, and cindi yang totally not suspect either.

Just say it. Rape daddy can do no wrong. If he wants to date his daughter, if he was looking forward to her breasts to grow in as a baby, hes just being a dad. The fact that his daughter called him a "sexual predator" when they all looked at each other, awkward laugh, then went back to stern..

Oh they were just kidding..

Hanging out on Epstein island, just tanning. Wishing his friend maxwell a "good time" while shes under arrest for trafficking kids, not suspect.

Friends with matt gaetz, not suspect. Banned him from property once his case became too hot, also not suspect. LOLOL

spent 8 trillion dollars, kills 600k people, cries about losing. "oh he won" hahahahahhah

You gotta be Horza

I solved the case

[JurisDictum]

You guys ever notice how the same policy paths Trump took are the same Biden is taking on just about everything? The rhetoric is far different than any actions I've seen. But even then, Biden was the most Trump-like Democrat in the field as far as personality and tone goes.

I was reading this think tank write up on Chinese trade policy:
https://carnegieendowment.org/2021/09/16/u.s.-china-trade-war-has-become-cold-war-pub-85352

Basically Biden is doing the same god damn shit on China. Part of the shipping crisis is that China has severely cut its consumption of western goods. Which means we are sending empty vessels back to China to fill up with more goods -- rather than shipping both ways. This obviously is a big hit to profits for the shipping industry.

Is any of this going to result in our country being better situated in real or relative economic gain? That's honestly all I give a shit about in the end. Unless you can sell me on the idea we could take some small economic hit so that workers would get paid far more -- but I have never seen any argument suggesting any course like that. In fact, we tend to call that stagflation.

[Duik]

You gotta be Horza

I solved the case

You
didnt
Address
One
Point
Offered.

CoughRedirectionCough

[Elizondo]

You
didnt
Address
One
Point
Offered.

CoughRedirectionCough

I dunno man

If you want to chat with biscuits about rape daddies knock yourself out

[Gatordash]

Direct shot to the California landscapers out there. Can I buy stock in extension cords? California to ban gas lawn mowers, leaf blowers (https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/576227-california-to-ban-gas-lawn-mowers-leaf-blowers)

How come these politicians come out and do this shit but we can't get anyone to classify the internet as a utility. Or get rid of Daylight Savings Time. Or be useful.

[Whale biologist]

Trump does bad joke. Therefor Biden, who sniffs kids, is good. Who cares? What do their actual policies entail? Oh yeah all of Biden's are worse than Trump's. And Biden had 50 years of practice in politics, including an 8-year vice-presidency, to get it right, while Trump had zero years and hosted a reality show. Yikes for Biden.

So you preferred Republican policies, as a Democrat?

You can see our confusion.

[Gatordash]

I just gave a discount to a client who is a recently sober single mother on Medicaid, proving I am in fact more generous than the fake democrats that post on here.

[Whale biologist]

I just gave a discount to a client who is a recently sober single mother on Medicaid, proving I am in fact more generous than the fake democrats that post on here.

Not true at all, we'd give her even more of your money. :)

[Elizondo]

Not true at all, we'd give her even more of your money. :)

From your own pocket?

[Gatordash]

From your own pocket?

President Biden would like you all to remember that if its not from your pocket than it cost zero dollars.

[unsunghero]

That is one thing I’ve always admired about Democrats

When it comes to supporting others especially their constituents, they are very compassionate and altruistic…





…with other people’s money

[Gatordash]

Almost instantly regretted my decision. I sent her out for xrays to a place that charges $25. And as I hand her the referral and she's walking out she goes, 'well if I end up going to an emergency room can they send you the xrays?'
The ER will probably just send me the report, not the actual imaging, but that would cost a ton of money so just go here where its only $25.
'Oh on medicaid they don't charge me anything if I go to the emergency room.'
Thanks Obama.

[JurisDictum]

That is one thing I’ve always admired about Democrats

When it comes to supporting others especially their constituents, they are very compassionate and altruistic…





…with other people’s money

The Republican conception of "liberal" is really quite amazing. They are rich corrupt elites, that want to take all your money because they are poor blacks. They are socialists that run international corporations worth trillions -- and oppose $15 minimum wage. They are racists that want to scrub all bigotry from the internet.

Anyway you don't need to take people's money. Just don't let them get it in the first place.

[Whale biologist]

'Oh on medicaid they don't charge me anything if I go to the emergency room.'
Thanks Obama.

Emtala(1986) created the unfunded entitlement to ER care Obama sought to make solvent in his health plan.

Thanks Ronaldus Magnus!

[unsunghero]

The Republican conception of "liberal" is really quite amazing. They are rich corrupt elites, that want to take all your money because they are poor blacks. They are socialists that run international corporations worth trillions -- and oppose $15 minimum wage. They are racists that want to scrub all bigotry from the internet.

Anyway you don't need to take people's money. Just don't let them get it in the first place.

They didn’t do anything illegal to earn it

And the people working for them aren’t slaves. Their wage is based on their negotiating power, which is based on their skillset. If their wage isn’t good, most likely it’s because they have no skillset to have any leverage in that negotiation

[JurisDictum]

They didn’t do anything illegal to earn it

And the people working for them aren’t slaves. Their wage is based on their negotiating power, which is based on their skillset. If their wage isn’t good, most likely it’s because they have no skillset to have any leverage in that negotiation

Why don't we just let people willing to do your job for less immigrate here on a work visa to save company money? Wouldn't that be a lot more fair and better for the economy?

[Jibartik]

libertarian =/= anarchist, Juris :o

[JurisDictum]

Well its a work visa. We're not talking open borders here. There is a big backlog of indian kids that want to come move here and work for Google/Facebook for 40k a year....their American counterpart makes literally over triple that often times....

For now...

Then it will go the way barrelmaking did.

[Jibartik]

Dont worry kids in Illinois are willing to do that work for 40k working from home.

The end of the experiment is nigh :o

[Gatordash]

Why don't we just let people willing to do your job for less immigrate here on a work visa to save company money? Wouldn't that be a lot more fair and better for the economy?

I just hired someone at $24/hr. They have no special training or degrees other than high school diploma. I hired them because they have shown that they worked at one place for 5+ years which means they show up on time and have the minimum competency to complete the job. If you can show that you can do a job well for a long period of time, whatever it is, then you will not be making minimum wage.

[JurisDictum]

I just hired someone at $24/hr. They have no special training or degrees other than high school diploma. I hired them because they have shown that they worked at one place for 5+ years which means they show up on time and have the minimum competency to complete the job. If you can show that you can do a job well for a long period of time, whatever it is, then you will not be making minimum wage.

Wages are higher than normal right now. That's probably because of Trumps kick ass tax cut- oh shit, Biden is president now. Must be crazy inflation he unleashed on the country with his bill that hasn't passed yet.

[Jibartik]

Gator, the problem is the people we pay min wage cant do that but they want the 24 an hour because they cant make ends meet.

This is literally what is happening lol

[Gatordash]

Wages are higher than normal right now. That's probably because of Trumps kick ass tax cut- oh shit, Biden is president now. Must be crazy inflation he unleashed on the country with his bill that hasn't passed yet.

It is the same wage she was paid when Trump was president.

Edit: actually she took a pay cut now that I think about it.

[Gatordash]

Gator, the problem is the people we pay min wage cant do that but they want the 24 an hour because they cant make ends meet.

This is literally what is happening lol

I get hundreds of resumes that are like 5 pages long because they work at home depot for 7 months, then dispatch for 5 months, then front office for 8 months, etc.

[Knowledge]

Even the far left isn't gonna give 15 dollars an hour to Mcdonalds workers in New Mexico.

Never gonna happen unless inflation drives up the cost of a burger to 12-15 dollars.

[Elizondo]

Wages are higher than normal right now. That's probably because of Trumps kick ass tax cut- oh shit, Biden is president now. Must be crazy inflation he unleashed on the country with his bill that hasn't passed yet.

Dude wages are inflated cuz Old Dude payin people more to stay at home and post on elf forums all day

[unsunghero]

Wages are higher than normal right now. That's probably because of Trumps kick ass tax cut- oh shit, Biden is president now. Must be crazy inflation he unleashed on the country with his bill that hasn't passed yet.

Wages went up under Trump pre-COVID

And if a company wants to outsource their labor to people from India who barely speak any English, they’ll probably get a reputation for shitty customer service like other companies who try to outsource do

[Whale biologist]

Wages are higher than normal right now. That's probably because of Trumps kick ass tax cut- oh shit, Biden is president now. Must be crazy inflation he unleashed on the country with his bill that hasn't passed yet.

Lol :D

[Gravydoo II]

You gotta be Horza

I solved the case

did horza get banned or something?

[unsunghero]

“ Over the past 40 years, the inflation-adjusted growth trend for the U.S. median weekly wage has been $4.05 per quarter. During the first three years of the Trump administration, it was a staggering $6.90 per quarter”

[Gravydoo II]

You guys ever notice how the same policy paths Trump took are the same Biden is taking on just about everything? The rhetoric is far different than any actions I've seen. But even then, Biden was the most Trump-like Democrat in the field as far as personality and tone goes.

I was reading this think tank write up on Chinese trade policy:
https://carnegieendowment.org/2021/09/16/u.s.-china-trade-war-has-become-cold-war-pub-85352

Basically Biden is doing the same god damn shit on China. Part of the shipping crisis is that China has severely cut its consumption of western goods. Which means we are sending empty vessels back to China to fill up with more goods -- rather than shipping both ways. This obviously is a big hit to profits for the shipping industry.

Is any of this going to result in our country being better situated in real or relative economic gain? That's honestly all I give a shit about in the end. Unless you can sell me on the idea we could take some small economic hit so that workers would get paid far more -- but I have never seen any argument suggesting any course like that. In fact, we tend to call that stagflation.

Thats the thing about war. once you in it, you in it. Remember that whole, trade war with china thing? lol the prices have already gone up for 4 years +. No way they are coming down now.

[unsunghero]

Even the far left isn't gonna give 15 dollars an hour to Mcdonalds workers in New Mexico.

Never gonna happen unless inflation drives up the cost of a burger to 12-15 dollars.

Well I mean, I’m expecting to have to pay ~$10 to eat lunch out nowadays…

I remember back when it was like $6. Felt like just a few years ago

[Gatordash]

Thats the thing about war. once you in it, you in it. Remember that whole, trade war with china thing? lol the prices have already gone up for 4 years +. No way they are coming down now.

Feels like its just a countdown until Biden sends troops to Taiwan.

[Knowledge]

Feels like its just a countdown until Biden sends troops to Taiwan.

That would be a death trip for sure. The USA generally does not attack nuclear nations. Like, ever.

[Horza]

libertarian =/= anarchist, Juris :o

https://i.imgur.com/dAwySfu.jpg

[Whale biologist]

Feels like its just a countdown until Biden sends troops to Taiwan.

We've had troops in Taiwan for over a year.

[Knowledge]

We've had troops in Taiwan for over a year.

Its like the peacock showing his colors, all posturing. War with China will never happen.

[unsunghero]

War with China would mean the end of the world

MAD will always prevent that - Mutually Assured Destruction

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/SSFa6Mt.jpeg

Just imagine. This could be US some day.

[Gravydoo II]

yeah its 12 bucks to eat, easy. They can afford to pay their employees another 1000 or 2000 or 3000 a year.. thats only 690,000,000 at 3000 for a work force is 250,000. Publix made 2.5 bil in profits and stock went up like 4 bucks, too. They got the money.

[Trexller]

Feels like its just a countdown until Biden sends troops to Taiwan.

Taiwan's fortifications are interesting to look into. It's a veritable island fortress, not using that term loosely either. For real, it makes Israel look like easy pickings.

That island has alot of things working in its favor in defense of a siege. From the geography, to the technology. Lots of rocky nasty shorelines, only a few places for amphibious landings, all the latest anti-air/ship weapons, and a fanatical population. (just naming a few)

China would have real problems trying to wage a conventional (non-nuclear) war on Taiwan, even before you consider the international support.

This is likely why china doesn't make a move, other than to rattle their sabers.

This recent aussie submarine deal is a boon to the defense of the whole region, and an unexpected middle finger to the chinese from the biden admin.

[JurisDictum]

Here's a bit of rugged individualism at work:

Elon Musk vs. Charlie Ergen: Battle of the Billionaires Over Spectrum (https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-charlie-ergen-battle-of-billionaires-11633714306)

Both sides have claimed the other misrepresents the science behind their services. “There’s definitely a lot of hostility in a lot of the filings,” says Tim Farrar, president of TMF Associates, a telecom consulting firm based in Menlo Park, Calif. SpaceX has been especially aggressive defending its turf against would-be interlopers, Mr. Farrar says.

In a March filing with the FCC, SpaceX accused Dish of making “increasingly desperate claims to support its quest to add even more frequencies to its warehouse of unused spectrum,” adding that Mr. Ergen’s company would be better off building the network it promised “rather than spending its time trying to take service away from the customers of those actually delivering on promises.”

Dish told regulators that SpaceX was the one seeking to monopolize a resource that it doesn’t need. The 12-gigahertz band in question is a small part of the many wavelengths Mr. Musk’s satellites can use to beam data to customers, the company argued. “SpaceX continues a practice that has become familiar: do not cede any ground except inch by inch,” Dish wrote in a letter to the commission.

Jeffrey Blum, Dish’s public-policy chief, says SpaceX’s pushback against potential ground-based users of the spectrum in question is unnecessary in light of recent technological advances that would allow signals from satellites and cellular towers to share the same frequencies.

“We don’t want to fight with them,” he says. “We don’t need to fight.”

It's like a face off on who is more full of bullshit about future wonderful goods we'll get. The winner gets the government granted monopoly -- built by taxpayer investment.

Musk will win because capitalism is on his side. It wants that damn 5g for sale.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/sCPakwC.jpeg

[JurisDictum]

I heard that they have homeless people that eat out of garbage cans in Venezuela.

[Trexller]

I heard that they have homeless people that eat out of garbage cans in Venezuela.

Is there a nation that doesn't? honestly wondering...

like the scandinavian countries with their somehow perfect socialism? no garbage eaters?

what about the garbage fetishists? are they gov't subsidized with trash to roll around in?

ya know, asking for a friend...

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/sCPakwC.jpeg

Lol my liberal co-worker is gonna love this, ty

[starkind]

Lol my liberal co-worker is gonna love this, ty


Yw. I'm being a dick. It's obvs wrong to judge a whole country on the basis of one building :p

Sorry if they become radical O.o

[Trexller]

Yw. I'm being a dick. It's obvs wrong to judge a whole country on the basis of one building :p

Sorry if they become radical O.o

maybe not, but its pretty fair to judge north korea by this building: Ryugyong Hotel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaIpTj3vOs

[Jibartik]

Why have MAD when you can have SAD (Single hAnded Destruction) to use as a threat to take control of the worlds economy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57995185

[JurisDictum]

https://www.quora.com/Is-homelessness-as-bad-in-Scandinavia-as-it-is-in-the-USA

A surprisingly good write up for that site.

In short, all societies deal with all these problems. Crime, corruption, poverty and exploitation. And if you were to look at them as God -- like playing a game a civilization -- they would seem a lot more alike then most people seem to realize.

It's called comparative politics. You can look at countries that did different things and see which one worked better. On homelessness in the north euro countries...citizens get welfare and simply don't need to beg. You don't see raggedy Swedish people with signs. But immigrants don't get welfare. So you will see some east euros begging.

Just go ahead and suggest to a politically average Swedish citizen that they adopt the American system of cutting these people off in the hopes they go out and uplift themselves. And go over the results the approach has...low wages for laborers! Slightly lower taxes! Mentally ill people eating out of trash cans until they die young!

See what kind of reactions you get. Sweden used to be a lot like us until the post war years. They are one of the only major capitalist powers that went with socialism to influence their government. It turns out that system is better for most workers. Its not better to start a business in. It's not better for low taxes. It's not better at radical innovation. So there are some trade offs.

But here's the thing: we aren't suggesting going full Sweden. In fact, UBI is a better solution here than it would be in Sweden for example. We don't have any of the union infrastructure, socialist values among the public, the kinds of skilled labor and machinery they use for it.

So its not really viable to fully copy Sweden. All we can do is see where are current system is coming up short in certain areas and modify it to improve the situation. UBI is the cop out -- and my guess is that will be marketed as the grand solution for capitalism ills. But really all it is is a way to bring people a little above subsistence again without changing anything else. Meanwhile the job pool shrinks.

[starkind]

What rights did Christ have when they beat him with metal hooks and made him carry his cross of suffocation to the hill of death.

All of them. He just chose not to exercise his might and powers so that we could learn and be saved and suffer with him. Imagine if he had gone full gozer velociraptor laz0r b33Mz. Imagine how many wouldn't have been saved.

I feel for him. And the fools that tortured him. Or think his example and life was meangless. Just because he bore that cross. If Jesus doesn't make you feel. Show you joy and God's will and move you to tears.. What can I say.

[unsunghero]

https://www.quora.com/Is-homelessness-as-bad-in-Scandinavia-as-it-is-in-the-USA

A surprisingly good write up for that site.

In short, all societies deal with all these problems. Crime, corruption, poverty and exploitation. And if you were to look at them as God -- like playing a game a civilization -- they would seem a lot more alike then most people seem to realize.

It's called comparative politics. You can look at countries that did different things and see which one worked better. On homelessness in the north euro countries...citizens get welfare and simply don't need to beg. You don't see raggedy Swedish people with signs. But immigrants don't get welfare. So you will see some east euros begging.

Just go ahead and suggest to a politically average Swedish citizen that they adopt the American system of cutting these people off in the hopes they go out and uplift themselves. And go over the results the approach has...low wages for laborers! Slightly lower taxes! Mentally ill people eating out of trash cans until they die young!

See what kind of reactions you get. Sweden used to be a lot like us until the post war years. They are one of the only major capitalist powers that went with socialism to influence their government. It turns out that system is better for most workers. Its not better to start a business in. It's not better for low taxes. It's not better at radical innovation. So there are some trade offs.

But here's the thing: we aren't suggesting going full Sweden. In fact, UBI is a better solution here than it would be in Sweden for example. We don't have any of the union infrastructure, socialist values among the public, the kinds of skilled labor and machinery they use for it.

So its not really viable to fully copy Sweden. All we can do is see where are current system is coming up short in certain areas and modify it to improve the situation. UBI is the cop out -- and my guess is that will be marketed as the grand solution for capitalism ills. But really all it is is a way to bring people a little above subsistence again without changing anything else. Meanwhile the job pool shrinks.

Poverty, mental illness, corruption, yes these all exist. You left off something. Substance abuse

It’s not what got all of them there but it’s what’s keeping a lot of them there. That is, if we are talking currently and not like for our country’s history. And giving them money isn’t going to fix that, might even make it worse. Just like all the money we’ve already thrown at homelessness without success

So while I find your concern completely genuine, I’m just not 100% on the method

[Jibartik]

there are too many varieties of Americans for me to allow UBI everyone in skandanavia is the same, but if joe bob gets UBI to buy meth and drive tractors off bridges then im gonna revolt.

and id rather we had our funny factions than try to game theory starvation when we have solved with our current system.

People forget that until factory farming starvation was a way bigger epidemic than it is today, but we just refuse to give credit to the empire.

[unsunghero]

I think he’s on the right track that one of the best ways to fight substance abuse is to “crowd it out”, and develop a schedule that prevents idle hands, which are the devil’s workshop for them

But the substance addicted ones won’t just start out functional for employment, you’d have to get them off their drug first. And if they continue to say no thanks I like the drug, then what? Is there a plan B?

If there was an easy solution to American homelessness we would have found it. I don’t think money is, but putting a recently-sober person on a tight schedule with a path to employment is a great start

[starkind]

We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.

Millions of ppl die *suffer horrific slow very expensive deaths that make C-suite rich AF whilst draining tax funds and political or human capital in futile and fruitless gesturs* in America every year because they aren't free and can't feed themselves and they have easier access to drugs or herpes. Or whatever. So same problems. Less newsworthy and hospice gets facebookpoints.

It's objectively "less cruel" and shocking at face value. Yet most of you have absolutely no idea. Yes. Even the hardcorest psychos who macaquest feed off this system that leaves millions of anorexic, cancerous, obese and somehow simultaneously malnurished spiritually corrupt and godless except in name only corpses in its wake.

My first name is God's will. My second is look. And helper of the priest. You're all doomed. Turn away from sin.

[Duik]

We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.
.

My first name is God's will. My second is look. And helper of the priest. You're all doomed. Turn away from sin.

Politics? = Sin.
God, by being deemed tax free (by men) is simply a political instrument to confuse the simple minded.
Skyfairy worshipers lack imagination and refuse to accept that religions are basically "nice rules to live by". Nothing more.
Dont steal shit.
Dont shag the neighhors wife. Etc.
Good grief.
The son died on the cross = The sun goes down on the crux (southern cross).
Pleased to be leaving "god" out of serious political discussions. He just confuses you.
Or not.

[JurisDictum]

there are too many varieties of Americans for me to allow UBI everyone in skandanavia is the same, but if joe bob gets UBI to buy meth and drive tractors off bridges then im gonna revolt.

and id rather we had our funny factions than try to game theory starvation when we have solved with our current system.

People forget that until factory farming starvation was a way bigger epidemic than it is today, but we just refuse to give credit to the empire.

Well that argument does partially explain why they started developing as a socialist state. They had a strong working class identity of people exactly like them.

But if your talking like, single payer healthcare and free/cheap college. You can see Russia and all kinds of other countries with a bunch of sectarian violence pull it off.

Russian healthcare sucks. But making it 100% private...basically zero evidence that would help. There's also not a lot of evidence that it sucks because it is single payer. It sucks because Russia is doing it.

And we suck when doing healthcare too. We have good 1st world healthcare here -- so that's not a problem. The problem is not everyone has access to it, and we are paying out the ass for it on a macro level.

“Healthcare is the tapeworm of the American economy,” Warren Buffett famously told CNBC in 2018, when presenting Haven. Indeed, the size of the market—fueled by costs exponentially higher than in any other country in the world—continues to expand relentlessly, and is projected to make up 20% of America’s GDP by 2028. But the results of this spending are paradoxical: Americans live shorter, less healthy lives than their peers in other countries, while suffering from an epidemic of bankruptcies related to medical issues (an estimated 66.5% of all bankruptcy filings are caused by medical expenses).

https://qz.com/1952225/why-amazon-berkshire-hathaway-and-jpmorgans-haven-failed/

We gave the market a shot. And again, and again..etc

It's not going to work. Single payer is pretty much inevitable. And it will probably be done by a progressive democrat 30-40 years from now when a lot of the current voter base is dead. You're not going to sell the boomer generation in their golden years that their lazy friend they knew in 1973 should get anything. He could have got a good job at any time!

[JurisDictum]

We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.

Millions of ppl die *suffer horrific slow very expensive deaths that make C-suite rich AF whilst draining tax funds and political or human capital in futile and fruitless gesturs* in America every year because they aren't free and can't feed themselves and they have easier access to drugs or herpes. Or whatever. So same problems. Less newsworthy and hospice gets facebookpoints.

It's objectively "less cruel" and shocking at face value. Yet most of you have absolutely no idea. Yes. Even the hardcorest psychos who macaquest feed off this system that leaves millions of anorexic, cancerous, obese and somehow simultaneously malnurished spiritually corrupt and godless except in name only corpses in its wake.

My first name is God's will. My second is look. And helper of the priest. You're all doomed. Turn away from sin.

Well there's problems we can solve with government policy. And then their people slipping into a nihilistic spiritual crisis that we can't really pass a program and throw money at to fix. A lot of these sad fucks are already rich and in therapy.

The Christian right kind of took advantage of the spiritual rot in America. Getting people 100% committed to their narrow understanding of the bible and western values was a lot more of the goal than invading Iraq. But that's the problem with these political movements; they are easy to infiltrate with an actual political agenda.

Some on the left have been trying some kind of stupid version of this. They get all new agey and start talking like were on a Buddhist retreat -- so we can what? Repeal the Salt tax and then raise the corporate rate a little?

Luckily its not as powerful of an institution as the super churches down south and in the midwest were.

[starkind]

Well that argument does partially explain why they started developing as a socialist state. They had a strong working class identity of people exactly like them.

But if your talking like, single payer healthcare and free/cheap college. You can see Russia and all kinds of other countries with a bunch of sectarian violence pull it off.

Russian healthcare sucks. But making it 100% private...basically zero evidence that would help. There's also not a lot of evidence that it sucks because it is single payer. It sucks because Russia is doing it.

And we suck when doing healthcare too. We have good 1st world healthcare here -- so that's not a problem. The problem is not everyone has access to it, and we are paying out the ass for it on a macro level.



https://qz.com/1952225/why-amazon-berkshire-hathaway-and-jpmorgans-haven-failed/

We gave the market a shot. And again, and again..etc

It's not going to work. Single payer is pretty much inevitable. And it will probably be done by a progressive democrat 30-40 years from now when a lot of the current voter base is dead. You're not going to sell the boomer generation in their golden years that their lazy friend they knew in 1973 should get anything. He could have got a good job at any time!

Big brain moment here.

They govbois could leave Medicare intact. Start single payer. Just cut off ppl born after 81 from medicare. Subsidize the old carpet baggers and call it a day.

No one has any real savings in this country though and they shouldn't when a few rabies boosters where billed at $78,000. The VA didn't accept it. Tho. Technically the VA isn't billing me. So..

Like wtf ppl.

[Knowledge]

Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

Egq8M3c_9pQ

[Duik]

Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?


Yes.
It only takes one stupid thing to fuck it for everyone else.
Plus only sensational confronting stuff gets boring peoples attention. We are happy with mediocrity so its normal.
Politicians are vampire baby eater/fuckers headlines get more attention than Hey, thanks for caring about others by taking some time out of your busy days and reducing your "freedoms", even for those you dont like.
Wait, what?

[Gatordash]

Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

Egq8M3c_9pQ

24 hour news channels have to find a slant because they are on all day. Watch your local news, its pretty moderate and unbiased no matter what channel its on.

[unsunghero]

Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

Egq8M3c_9pQ

I imagine the point here is that both are actually moderate?

I know for a fact Tim Pool is. I dunno much about Russel. Neither have any real political experience but I bet Tim Pool knows a bit more about politics than Russel

[Whale biologist]

We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.


Should America be self-sufficient? As in, able to produce everything we need domestically? This is a trick!

Politics? = Sin.
God, by being deemed tax free (by men) is simply a political instrument to confuse the simple minded.
Skyfairy worshipers lack imagination and refuse to accept that religions are basically "nice rules to live by". Nothing more.
Dont steal shit.
Dont shag the neighhors wife. Etc.
Good grief.
The son died on the cross = The sun goes down on the crux (southern cross).
Pleased to be leaving "god" out of serious political discussions. He just confuses you.
Or not.

Hey buddy look at what's happened since we killed the poor old bastard(the second time). Not a great track record for the Law of Man.

[Whale biologist]

Big brain moment here.

They govbois could leave Medicare intact. Start single payer. Just cut off ppl born after 81 from medicare. Subsidize the old carpet baggers and call it a day.

No one has any real savings in this country though and they shouldn't when a few rabies boosters where billed at $78,000. The VA didn't accept it. Tho. Technically the VA isn't billing me. So..

Like wtf ppl.

That would indict Medicare by comparison, old people cost a lot more than not-old people. Good idea!

24 hour news channels have to find a slant because they are on all day. Watch your local news, its pretty moderate and unbiased no matter what channel its on.

APnews if you want zero spin and a nap. :)

[Jibartik]

it’s impossible to have zero spin because that in and of itself is full blown nazi fascist trump support (I’m told)

[Botten]

I imagine the point here is that both are actually moderate?

I know for a fact Tim Pool is. I dunno much about Russel. Neither have any real political experience but I bet Tim Pool knows a bit more about politics than Russel

Tim Pools is extreme Right

"In July 2019, Pool accepted an invitation to a White House event of Trump hosting internet personalities who President Trump claimed had been unfairly targeted for their conservative views. Disinformation researchers Erin Gallagher and Joan Donovan characterized the Tim Pool as being far-right spreaders of disinformation."

And Russel is often misguided.

[Jibartik]

For thousands of years man has used shoes as a means to determine the type of person they were dealing with.

If you never knew that, that's a sign of lack of privilege because you were not raised in civilized society.

Only a feral wolf boy would not know this trick.

[Horza]

I imagine the point here is that both are actually moderate?

I know for a fact Tim Pool is. I dunno much about Russel. Neither have any real political experience but I bet Tim Pool knows a bit more about politics than Russel

Pool openly praised Adolf Hitler as "a certain World War Two-era hero."
(https://streamable.com/gs1o3)
He also claims that "If you believe in white privilege you are by definition a racist." Pool clarified that "Racism is defined as thinking one race is superior. Superior means higher in status or rank. White privilege assumes white people hold a higher status in the world." As should be obvious, "racism" is the belief that "X race innately holds, or should hold, a higher status in the world," rather than the recognition that whatever status they currently hold is due to social or economic conditions, which is what white privilege describes. To close his take, Pool stated that "Shoes tell you more about privilege than race does."

[Jibartik]

waitaminuet... what the heck do you know what Tim Pool has to say about stuff on that level of specifics? How much time do you spend listening to these people you pretend to hate, teplar??!

[Gatordash]

What they tell you: Biden Seeks $80 Billion to Beef Up I.R.S. Audits of High-Earners
The president’s “American Families Plan,” which he will detail this week, will be offset in part by a tax enforcement effort that administration officials believe will raise $700 billion over a decade.

Reality: Biden plan would give IRS power to track bank accounts with $600 or more.

Reporter says Americans are worried & asks Pelosi if measure will stay in the reconciliation bill.

PELOSI: “Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.”

[Mblake1981]

For thousands of years man has used shoes as a means to determine the type of person they were dealing with.

If you never knew that, that's a sign of lack of privilege because you were not raised in civilized society.

Only a feral wolf boy would not know this trick.

loaves and fishes.

What about the Man and Lion, which article of clothing is important for that?

[Whale biologist]

What they tell you: Biden Seeks $80 Billion to Beef Up I.R.S. Audits of High-Earners


Reality: Biden plan would give IRS power to track bank accounts with $600 or more.

there's also mandatory breathalyzers for every new car in there. MADD is pleased.

I PM'd it to blake and he rated it "not as enraging as usual from you" :cool:

[Horza]

Jib's head is spinning because Youtube "leftists" say Hitler was a hero and racism doesn't exist.

[Ooloo]

Pool openly praised Adolf Hitler as "a certain World War Two-era hero."
(https://streamable.com/gs1o3)
He also claims that "If you believe in white privilege you are by definition a racist." Pool clarified that "Racism is defined as thinking one race is superior. Superior means higher in status or rank. White privilege assumes white people hold a higher status in the world." As should be obvious, "racism" is the belief that "X race innately holds, or should hold, a higher status in the world," rather than the recognition that whatever status they currently hold is due to social or economic conditions, which is what white privilege describes. To close his take, Pool stated that "Shoes tell you more about privilege than race does."

Lmao, he misspoke when riffing off the cuff. Gee, I guess he thinks hitler is good!

Are you actually this stupid or are you just a troll account?

Also with regard to white privilege, he's saying that it's irrelevant because what actually matters is class. Who is more oppressed, the opioid-addicted white guy who just got laid off and has no prospects, or Michelle Obama? I think Michelle is doing a bit better.

There are all sorts of privilege, and the most important kind is status, not a particular skin color. The US is a majority-white country, yes, so you see lots of white people who have money. You also see lots of black people who have money, and Asian decendants have more money than both of them. Who fuckin cares, move on.

[Mblake1981]

there's also mandatory breathalyzers for every new car in there. MADD is pleased.

I PM'd it to blake and he rated it "not as enraging as usual from you" :cool:

*deleted the rant

keep the hell away from my car.

-You know when i got the thing each tire had a leak and the digi dash screen has a photo of a grinning lion.

[Jibartik]

Jib's head is spinning because Youtube "leftists" say Hitler was a hero and racism doesn't exist.

Tim pool is like you, he was a leftist, once.

Now he's crazy!

[Horza]

Lmao, he misspoke when riffing off the cuff. Gee, I guess he thinks hitler is good!

Are you actually this stupid or are you just a troll account?

Also with regard to white privilege, he's saying that it's irrelevant because what actually matters is class. Who is more oppressed, the opioid-addicted white guy who just got laid off and has no prospects, or Michelle Obama? I think Michelle is doing a bit better.

There are all sorts of privilege, and the most important kind is status, not a particular skin color. The US is a majority-white country, yes, so you see lots of white people who have money. You also see lots of black people who have money, and Asian decendants have more money than both of them. Who fuckin cares, move on.

Pool misspoke while riffing when he said Hitler was a hero, Trump was just joking when he said he'd like to date his own daughter.

I think I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern here.

[Gatordash]

there's also mandatory breathalyzers for every new car in there. MADD is pleased.

I PM'd it to blake and he rated it "not as enraging as usual from you" :cool:

They track everything else, might as well track every penny you spend too.

[Ooloo]

Pool misspoke while riffing when he said Hitler was a hero, Trump was just joking when he said he'd like to date his own daughter.

I think I'm starting to notice a bit of a pattern here.

Yes, you are correct. Tim misspoke, and Trump made an awkward weird joke in an attempt to flatter his daughter. Who fuckin cares? You actually think Tim pool thinks "hitler is a hero"?? Like, lmao what the fuck. I refuse to believe you're that dumb.

Biden also said "Nazi fags" instead of "Nazi flags" once. I guess he hates gay people!

[Mblake1981]

Angry Guy: "WTF is this??"

its a cal-arts level depiction of a nude woman. i mean, i would be furious also. Cal-arts sucks. 70's van murals blow that out of the water easy.

[Ooloo]

Yes, yes that's what he did. Get over it.

He was trying to say that his daughter is beautiful, as fathers often do. He made a clumsy and creepily incestuous statement instead. Notice how you aren't responding to anything else I said, as usual.

TLDR: Horza doesn't care that biden is a homophobe guys

[Mblake1981]

Those things fuel a aftermarket that will sell delete-kits. They already do that with DEF (Government Juice) but its expensive. Imagine needing to blow into a tube anytime you want to start your car.. you can tell woman behind a desk designed this because it only takes safety in account, which is their disposition.

Guys at a shop messing around with the car on a dyno would rip that shit out pronto. Then again, with the ever-increasing electric vehicles there is no need for that. A bland future, kitchen appliances.

Edit: They already did it to computers. Windows 11 download site doesn't have a Desktop PC on display. Its all tablet and phone BS. So yeah, fuck Steve Jobs and Starbucks chic-tech.

[Horza]

Yes, yes that's what he did. Get over it.

He was trying to say that his daughter is beautiful, as fathers often do. He made a clumsy and creepily incestuous statement instead. Notice how you aren't responding to anything else I said, as usual.

Reagan GOP: We are the moral majority.

Trump GOP: Fathers often say they want to have sex with their daughters.

[Whale biologist]

Biden also said "Nazi fags" instead of "Nazi flags" once.

Same root tho? :confused:

Bund(le)

[Elizondo]

Reagan GOP: We are the moral majority.

Trump GOP: Fathers often say they want to have sex with their daughters.

Bro you straight up lyin. It's super duper funny.

[Gatordash]

Laughed when she said 3 baskets and listed 5 things.

Spit out my coffee when she got to 'moral responsibility'

Insider trading whale Nancy Pelosi (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1447980551432982543)

[Whale biologist]

Laughed when she said 3 baskets and listed 5 things.

Spit out my coffee when she got to 'moral responsibility'

Insider trading whale Nancy Pelosi (https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1447980551432982543)


Climate
Health, Jobs, Security
Moral responsibility

[Jibartik]

sure, socialism isnt Satanism.

meanwhile in utopia

https://i.imgur.com/lsJDjZb.png

[JurisDictum]

Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

Egq8M3c_9pQ

Tim Pool always claimed to be leftwing. Its hard to find someone remotely "leftwing" that agrees with him. That and he obviously has zero leftwing impulse and ideology if you are at all familiar with political subjects on a substantive level. So lots of right-leaning people like him I guess.

I tend to think hes a grifter. I was never able to find the funding for him -- or the reason he showed up on anyones youtube list. The dude is kind of boring -- its not really believable he got on the same list playlist with Rogean (celebrity before he started) and Rising (now breaking points, was propped up by "the Hill" corporate media). Who the hell as a boring nobody gets a fucking interview on Rogean with Jack Dorsy?

That is weird. What does he want to talk with Dorsey about? Well censoring conservatives of course. And unlike someone like Glen Greenwald*, he really does broach the subject with him Fox news style. Like there is two ideologies and one is being suppressed.

So he doesn't look good during the interview because he starts to get along with Dorsey. People are always surprised when famous powerful people turn out to be pretty apt socially.

Pool doesn't like it so he starts making evidence free claims about massive death threats repeatedly ignored by twitter. He can't give us the evidence because "then he would be gulty of doing the same thing he's complaining about."

We all know how conservatives are very sensitive to the charge of hypocrisy :rolleyes:. But its mighty convenient that such an outrageous story cant be verified. If you wanted to get Dorsey -- ask him a lot more about why celebrities and other elites are constantly receiving special treatment -- and those that agitate these groups are often thoughtlessly enforced.

This is what happened to Facebook. Someone found out what a lot of us always knew -- Obviously there is a special line for the elites. They don't get stupid blunt instrument bans based on keywords and the algorithm. Its also obvious (not proven in facebook yet) that some of these crazy bans like the hunter biden story, they simply take direction from the mainstream media and ban people they dislike in order to avoid their ire. The MSM also used congress to bully these companies into actively suppressing rival news, while promoting CNN/ABC/MSNBC and making concessions to Fox.

* a very obvious pick if Rogean wanted a serious interview about this.

[Elizondo]

Tim Pool always claimed to be leftwing. Its hard to find someone remotely "leftwing" that agrees with him. That and he obviously has zero leftwing impulse and ideology if you are at all familiar with political subjects on a substantive level. So lots of right-leaning people like him I guess.

I tend to think hes a grifter. I was never able to find the funding for him -- or the reason he showed up on anyones youtube list. The dude is kind of boring -- its not really believable he got on the same list playlist with Rogean (celebrity before he started) and Rising (now breaking points, was propped up by "the Hill" corporate media). Who the hell as a boring nobody gets a fucking interview on Rogean with Jack Dorsy?

-ICe8_pFxNo

[JurisDictum]

I just don't buy it. "ahhh yea dude just here with my camera and people started calling me a journalist! as like a 30 year old guy into politics, never occurred to me that's what it was!"

And he was just that damn good. He wansn't even focused on money. Just telling us all how it really is. Damn.

[Horza]

-ICe8_pFxNo

Please try to use your words, Nirgon.

[unsunghero]

Tim Pool always claimed to be leftwing. Its hard to find someone remotely "leftwing" that agrees with him. That and he obviously has zero leftwing impulse and ideology if you are at all familiar with political subjects on a substantive level. So lots of right-leaning people like him I guess.

I tend to think hes a grifter. I was never able to find the funding for him -- or the reason he showed up on anyones youtube list. The dude is kind of boring -- its not really believable he got on the same list playlist with Rogean (celebrity before he started) and Rising (now breaking points, was propped up by "the Hill" corporate media). Who the hell as a boring nobody gets a fucking interview on Rogean with Jack Dorsy?

That is weird. What does he want to talk with Dorsey about? Well censoring conservatives of course. And unlike someone like Glen Greenwald, he really does broach the subject with him Fox news style. Like there is two ideologies and one is being suppressed.

So he doesn't look good during the interview because he starts to get along with Dorsey. People are always surprised when famous powerful people turn out to be pretty apt socially.

Pool doesn't like it so he starts making evidence free claims about massive death threats repeatedly ignored by twitter. He can't give us the evidence because "then he would be gulty of doing the same thing he's complaining about."

We all know how conservatives are very sensitive to the charge of hypocrisy :rolleyes:. But its mighty convenient that such an outrageous story cant be verified. If you wanted to get Dorsey -- ask him a lot more about why celebrities and other elites are constantly receiving special treatment -- and those that agitate these groups are often thoughtlessly enforced.

This is what happened to Facebook. Someone found out what a lot of us always knew -- Obviously there is a special line for the elites. They don't get stupid blunt instrument bans based on keywords and the algorithm. Its also obvious (not proven in facebook yet) that some of these crazy bans like the hunter biden story, they simply take direction from the mainstream media and ban people they dislike in order to avoid their ire. The MSM also used congress to bully these companies into actively suppressing rival news, while promoting CNN/ABC/MSNBC and making concessions to Fox.

I’ll start by saying Tim Pool has some faults. However, in regards to being moderate, he is pro-police reform, which is a left wing position. He is anti-war which USED to be a left wing position. He is anti-capital punishment, a left wing position. He is very libertarian about drugs and other things, basically taking an approach of adults should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t intrude on my rights. That is not a right-wing position, the harder to the right you go, the less “adults should be free to do what they want” attitudes you are going to see, ESPECIALLY in regards to illegal drug use and sexuality. Far right positions go as far as saying all pornography on the internet and anything explicit on tv should be banned, all LGBT behaviors and unions are deviant behaviors, etc. So a libertarian position is a moderate position, definitely not a far right position

Tim Pool makes millions and millions of dollars, employs probably at least a dozen if not more people under him, and doesn’t even have a high school diploma. He dropped out of high school. A (rare) example of how to be successful without a lot of formal education

Now for the faults: he is one of the worst sensationalists on the internet. He catastrophizes everything and he’s getting worse as time goes on. He’s basically on an Alex Jones level now, constantly repeating that things like the collapse of America and civil war are imminent, etc. He rambles on and on in order for his videos to hit the 20 minute mark for the algorithm to put them in a different category, either for monetization or total-views purposes. He has a decent knowledge of politics, and while his movie analogies are cute and sometimes clever, he definitely makes too many movie or video game analogies to be taken too seriously as a political commentator

Overall, for someone without even a high school degree, even with his faults, he has a decent surface level understanding of more total things than the average person it seems

I subscribe to his channel but listen to it less and less as he becomes more of a sensationalist

[JurisDictum]

As you can see -- the conservatives are always the one defensive about him. And the liberals are always the ones calling him a fraud.

That other stuff shows he wants to make money. That's not wrong or anything. But its the kind of thing I look at when determining "is this guy saying this shit for views and fanbase, or does he believe it."

He, at very least, is misleading about being left. But I just want to call it before it turns out hes connected to some billionaire going way back.

[JurisDictum]

To be fair. Its possible he once considered himself leftwing as a young person and didn't realize he was centrist/conservative until he was already down this path. Then whats going to work? "Hey guys, Ben Shapiro light here, look at what the god damn libs are up to now!"

[Botten]

What they tell you: Biden Seeks $80 Billion to Beef Up I.R.S. Audits of High-Earners


Reality: Biden plan would give IRS power to track bank accounts with $600 or more.

The IRS monitoring of $600 or more is just gas lighting from FoxNews and Right leaning radio hosts.

"While Democrats are still working to work out the details, they are reportedly targeting a $10,000 threshold. That is similar to the amount the federal government already monitors through the Treasury Department."

[JurisDictum]

The OCED countries are also trying to establish a global tax. This is terrible, well off people might have to pay the tax rate workers do.

The thing about wealth is you kind of have to out yourself to elites repeatedly while obtaining it. There gonna know about how much money you have and how you got it. They usually even know if your a drug dealer.

[unsunghero]

To be fair. Its possible he once considered himself leftwing as a young person and didn't realize he was centrist/conservative until he was already down this path. Then whats going to work? "Hey guys, Ben Shapiro light here, look at what the god damn libs are up to now!"

This is probably the case

Having been a long term subscriber to his, his popularity on YouTube exploded when he started making videos not necessarily supporting any specific right wing positions (he was very careful about not doing this), but instead making vids like “can you believe what mainstream media/democrat politicians/big tech/etc are doing now?!!”

Once he realized that 80%+ of his new subscriber base was right wing, he started to adopt more right wing positions. So he to some degree is definitely guilty of grifting, but he still tries to cling to many moderate positions on some things

[Elizondo]

Please try to use your words, Nirgon.

I'm you! No you're me! No I'm you! If I'm not you then who am I!

I'm your clone baby

kljDGdnhqo8

[Whale biologist]

https://www.uschamber.com/infrastructure

Progress is being made on Capitol Hill, with the Senate passing the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act on a bipartisan basis.

This much-needed infrastructure legislation will create millions of jobs, improve global competitiveness, and add trillions of dollars in economic growth through investment in roads, bridges, ports, airports, transit, rail, water and energy infrastructure, access to broadband, and more.

The House now needs to pass this bipartisan legislation so it can be signed into law without delay.

[Gustoo]

Don't worry there won't be an inflationary impacts.

[Whale biologist]

Don't worry there won't be an inflationary impacts.

https://i.imgur.com/igwtnvM.jpeg

[Ooloo]

Joe biden apologists really giving it their all itt.

He sucks. He's worse than trump. Cope.

[JurisDictum]

One conservative point made during the pandemic response that I thought was good was how the Covid bailout should be targeted to those that need it. Nevertheless, just like the Republicans -- I didn't propose some kind of means tested or alternative program.

There are couple of obvious reasons:

1) If you don't give everyone the benefit -- its easy to come up with a bulk of people that resent the money being spent. It was a bad idea to turn this into a giant debate about whether it was fair people making 60K a year didn't get the money but people paying 50k did. Or why unemployed people are making decent money while they didn't get shit.

2) It takes forever to hammer out -- and the results are often pretty sub par. It would definitely be an obama-style slow recovery again. The only way to get big legislation passed, is fast after a crisis these days.

3) We actually did need to stimulate the economy to make sure there wasn't a precepitous drop in demand. Its annoying you can never really falsify this scientifically. All I can say is there are millions of academic and policy types that have shown repeated example of austerity being bad for recovery. I mean worldwide not just the United States.

One of the thing the pandemic showed is that giving out money directly works as a good economic boost. Rather than distributing it through programs and bank loans. People are far less irresponsible with their money than I think used to be the case. They studied the people spending the money on shit like alcohol and new cars etc. It was pretty small.

In fact it was pretty good for debt collectors. This is why the largely vapid and gimmicky Andrew Yang got so much popularity. He did have one good point about spending money socially. Transfers are cheap and effective but programs are slow and inefficient.

Basically we should have a lot less programs based on means testing. So when Corporate Democrats (or most every Republican) come up with a rational sounding story about means testing being the answer... I've seen how that ends up.

[Knowledge]

You guys are just pissed off that government works for Wall Street, not you. Get over it.
Been that way since 1913 and never gonna change.

[Ooloo]

The covid payouts weren't any different than any other social program really. They were valuable and necessary for some, and for others it just made them more dependent and less likely to take jobs.

Even now, there is a record high number of job openings, and a record low number of people willing to take them. Many are making more from covid unemployment than they'd make at an actual job, so it's not surprising. This sounds great and all until you notice that supply chains are currently failing. Many professionals in many industries are quitting outright over vaccine mandates. This is bad policy, and it's ultimately hurting everyone.

[Knowledge]

Who needs a job? My nephew hasn't had a job in 15 years and smokes meth all day every day. Why work when you can steal and deal drugs?

[Elizondo]

Joe biden apologists really giving it their all itt.

He sucks. He's worse than trump. Cope.

I dunno man

I saw his meme and went to the store and gas station today

Suddenly the prices were much lower for everything

[JurisDictum]

Speaking of Wallstreet. I hope you are all aware they were shitting their pants until Trump with dem support came in with these rescue measures. They understand the importance of preventing a crash -- and a lot of them voted Biden. They live in fucking New York though so take that for what it is.

[Gatordash]

The IRS monitoring of $600 or more is just gas lighting from FoxNews and Right leaning radio hosts.

"While Democrats are still working to work out the details, they are reportedly targeting a $10,000 threshold. That is similar to the amount the federal government already monitors through the Treasury Department."

Pelosi was asked this morning and said its $600. Not sure what you think fox news has to do with it.

$10k is not targeting high earners. They are targeting the middle class like always.

The government does not know how much is in my bank account.

[Horza]

Someone please just explain to me how people claim to be Christians and worship a guy who says he wants to bang his own daughter.

[Knowledge]

Donald Trump is sickening. Biden is more tolerable.

The Trump and Obama administrations and their press divided America on purpose.

When Barrack claimed to be Islamic on television i wanted to puke

[Gatordash]

You guys are just pissed off that government works for Wall Street, not you. Get over it.
Been that way since 1913 and never gonna change.

Yes that is correct.

It also pisses me off when people are too dumb to realize it and are arguing like the pawns they are.

[Knowledge]

Yes that is correct.

It also pisses me off when people are too dumb to realize it and are arguing like the pawns they are.

All we can do is try to correct them.

[Whale biologist]

$10k is not targeting high earners. They are targeting the middle class like always.


Poor got nothin' to take and there aren't enough rich people to fund anything.

Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown. 👑

[Gatordash]

Poor got nothin' to take and there aren't enough rich people to fund anything.

Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown. 👑

There are plenty of rich people to fund everything but politicians would never actually do it. Pelosi already makes millions off insider trading. Yellen made over 7 million last year giving talks to Wall Street buddies. And they are on CBS and giving press conferences saying how the rich need to pay their fair share.... by letting the IRS look into $600 transactions. And idiots like you believe them.

[Jibartik]

"were going to get taxes from the 400k+ earners"

"but why you need access on bank accounts over $600 then?"

"so we can send stimulus checks to families that make 400k a year for 2k a pop!"

Someone get me off this rollarcoster.

[Whale biologist]

There are plenty of rich people to fund everything but politicians would never actually do it. Pelosi already makes millions off insider trading. Yellen made over 7 million last year giving talks to Wall Street buddies. And they are on CBS and giving press conferences saying how the rich need to pay their fair share.... by letting the IRS look into $600 transactions. And idiots like you believe them.

How? Most rich people are rich because of their investments. Finna get down wit a wealf tax, yo?

Can't wait to find out what taxing unrealized gains does to our economy. 🤘

[Knowledge]

Bad weather again in Oklahoma tonight. A tornado went halfway across Oklahoma yesterday and did one hundred dollars worth of damage.

[Gatordash]

How? Most rich people are rich because of their investments. Finna get down wit a wealf tax, yo?

Can't wait to find out what taxing unrealized gains does to our economy. 🤘

Maybe you could start by not pumping trillions of dollars that regular taxpayers will have to make up for into the stock market and housing market.

[Whale biologist]

Maybe you could start by not pumping trillions of dollars that regular taxpayers will have to make up for into the stock market and housing market.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15927&thumb=1&d=1633749921

[Ooloo]

How? Most rich people are rich because of their investments. Finna get down wit a wealf tax, yo?

Can't wait to find out what taxing unrealized gains does to our economy. 🤘

Yeah, cause the wealthy don't pay any taxes! Only 70% of all net tax revenue, grrr! Those darned riches!

[Gatordash]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15927&thumb=1&d=1633749921

Okay but hear me out. Pumping trillions into the investment market actually just makes these billionaires way more rich, while at the same time is adding inflation into a market that is already battling some serious inflationary pressure due lockdowns, which in turn affects low to middle income people the most because now they are spending more money on food or gas or rent instead of like retail consumption which will actually hurt our economy because like 70% of it is based on consumption.

[Whale biologist]

Okay but hear me out. Pumping trillions into the investment market actually just makes these billionaires way more rich, while at the same time is adding inflation into a market that is already battling some serious inflationary pressure due lockdowns, which in turn affects low to middle income people the most because now they are spending more money on food or gas or rent instead of like retail consumption which will actually hurt our economy because like 70% of it is based on consumption.

aren't those all consumption?

[Jibartik]

I have an idea lets all just not pay our debtors at the same time.

[Gatordash]

aren't those all consumption?

no, rent and food and gas is not consumer spending

[Gatordash]

I'm just saying, it seems a lot like these democrats like AOC and Pelosi who are all for the middle class and taxing the rich, aren't actually doing it and are in fact making wall street and their billionaire friends even richer. I have a strong feeling that if you look it up, the wealth gap between low to middle and high income earners has significantly increased this past year. And what this administration has done about it so far is jack up the stock market, the housing market, and now is getting the IRA to look into $600 transactions so they can make up all this money from high income earners because you have to be hella rich to make or spend $600 and then they go on CNN and tell you their new plan will cost you zero dollars and Pelosi is having a press conference this morning talking about how her bill needs three baskets and one of the baskets is for moral reasons while she invests in Microsoft right before congress gives them a big military contract and shoots their stock sky high. I gotta go

[Knowledge]

Let's go Brandon!

[JurisDictum]

Well it honestly wouldn't surprise me if the upper middle class gets a bit hammered. Because they always do on taxes -- that's why the majority of the white ones were republican forever.

Enter this new realignment that has been taking place. They were sick of paying for a government that rewards mostly the rich and and big corporations. They don't necessarily care about small business -- it depends on whether they own a small business.

Put another way: this economy is set up to give everything to those that own the means of production. The middle class is mostly identified by their choice of comfort and a balanced life, over relentless financial climbing. They can't preserve their class as it exists unless they create structures and identities that stand up against capitalism.

Democrats are gonna help them do this -- at least that's the idea. They want to preserve their ability to have low effort high pay employment, not need to save or invest that much, and to be confident their kids will do even better without having to be a climber.

So that's probably the reason some are putting up with more spending and taxes. From an abstract macro view. A lot of the democrat platform is tailored to them. The poors are pretty much cucked atm.

[unsunghero]

Someone please just explain to me how people claim to be Christians and worship a guy who says he wants to bang his own daughter.

Ivanka Trump is hot as shit. I’m sure the statements were more about her objective beauty and not an attempt at incest

[unsunghero]

I'm just saying, it seems a lot like these democrats like AOC and Pelosi who are all for the middle class and taxing the rich, aren't actually doing it and are in fact making wall street and their billionaire friends even richer. I have a strong feeling that if you look it up, the wealth gap between low to middle and high income earners has significantly increased this past year. And what this administration has done about it so far is jack up the stock market, the housing market, and now is getting the IRA to look into $600 transactions so they can make up all this money from high income earners because you have to be hella rich to make or spend $600 and then they go on CNN and tell you their new plan will cost you zero dollars and Pelosi is having a press conference this morning talking about how her bill needs three baskets and one of the baskets is for moral reasons while she invests in Microsoft right before congress gives them a big military contract and shoots their stock sky high. I gotta go

The worst thing for our economy a wealthy person can be doing with their money is putting it into some form of a savings account

Investing it in “Wall Street” is not a terrible thing on its own. Innovation requires investment. Innovation might be able to solve some very serious problems such as transportation, supply, even things like pollution. We need to keep funding the leading edge of technology not just for our gadgets but for our country’s problems

I don’t have a huge problem with the super wealthy risking their money in investments in Wall Street tbh

[Jibartik]

Well it honestly wouldn't surprise me if the upper middle class gets a bit hammered. Because they always do on taxes -- that's why the majority of the white ones were republican forever.

Enter this new realignment that has been taking place. They were sick of paying for a government that rewards mostly the rich and and big corporations. They don't necessarily care about small business -- it depends on whether they own a small business.

Put another way: this economy is set up to give everything to those that own the means of production. The middle class is mostly identified by their choice of comfort and a balanced life, over relentless financial climbing. They can't preserve their class as it exists unless they create structures and identities that stand up against capitalism.

Democrats are gonna help them do this -- at least that's the idea. They want to preserve their ability to have low effort high pay employment, not need to save or invest that much, and to be confident their kids will do even better without having to be a climber.

So that's probably the reason some are putting up with more spending and taxes. From an abstract macro view. A lot of the democrat platform is tailored to them. The poors are pretty much cucked atm.

The way I see it, democrat's are just holding onto hope that the sky isn't falling and it's about to land flat on their heads.

[Elizondo]

Ivanka Trump is hot as shit. I’m sure the statements were more about her objective beauty and not an attempt at incest

He knows bro

It was obviously a joke but he's low IQ

[JurisDictum]

The one thing the wealthy are doing for us right now, is investing most their money. In this country we have extremely liquid markets. Investment quickly pours into any potentially good idea. Musk -- and ill do a write up why i hate his guts when I'm up for it -- does show how a electric car company goes from nothing to dominating all the old auto companies around the world incredibly fast. It can't happen without these kinds of markets.

You can do big things without markets. In fact most the really big stuff is done by governments. But for typical products and innovation -- you need the private sector strong.

The question is: how do we preserve all these market advantage as much as possible -- while dealing with the kinds of problems this sort of market creates?

I honestly think the answer lies in taxation of personal wealth in the end. The nose will eventually close around the high end tax dodgers. If nothing else because at some point even the rich lose common cause with the .05% or whatever.

[Elizondo]

The one thing the wealthy are doing for us right now, is investing most their money. In this country we have extremely liquid markets. Investment quickly pours into any potentially good idea. Musk -- and ill do a write up why i hate his guts when I'm up for it -- does show how a electric car company goes from nothing to dominating all the old auto companies around the world incredibly fast. It can't happen without these kinds of markets.

You can do big things without markets. In fact most the really big stuff is done by governments. But for typical products and innovation -- you need the private sector strong.

The question is: how do we preserve all these market advantage as much as possible -- while dealing with the kinds of problems this sort of market creates?

I honestly think the answer lies in taxation of personal wealth in the end. The nose will eventually close around the high end tax dodgers. If nothing else because at some point even the rich lose common cause with the .05% or whatever.

That guy got billions in subsidies from The Government tho

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

Los Angeles entrepreneur Elon Musk has built a multibillion-dollar fortune running companies that make electric cars, sell solar panels and launch rockets into space.

And he’s built those companies with the help of billions in government subsidies.

[JurisDictum]

I say that like it needs a few bandaids but it goes a lot deeper than that. Its a great thing when your CEO smoking a joint just lost you 10 grand in 2 days. Things day to day are very fickle and emotional like that. So that's why they tell you not to trade for the short term unless you have a very good idea what you're doing.

Capital in Europe is often "locked in" When capital is locked in and can't be removed from an investment until an agreed upon amount of time. This solves that fickle stock problem, but it makes it much harder for companies that show a lot of promise to raise millions and billions very quickly.

But then there is the problem of the middlemen constantly profiting from shuffling stocks around. Basically a parasite. The only good they do is provide some decent investor information for those that are more long term oriented. But if they didn't exist, I'm sure the work would still get done somehow.

[JurisDictum]

That guy got billions in subsidies from The Government tho

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

Yea -- the government is the entity that often comes in take losses on investing in things that will likely not yield any real money in the near/medium term. But once tesla takes off -- they get a hell of a lot more from people investing in the company that it ever did from the government.

That unbridled capitalism gets channeled into that company allowing him to expand to ludicrous extent. And of course they were not paying the same tax rate everyone else does -- that's what happens when your a giant company in America.

[Gravydoo II]

when you're not allowed to believe that joe biden is the president you're in a cult

[Elizondo]

Yea -- the government is the entity that often comes in take losses on investing in things that will likely not yield any real money in the near/medium term. But once tesla takes off -- they get a hell of a lot more from people investing in the company that it ever did from the government.

That unbridled capitalism gets channeled into that company allowing him to expand to ludicrous extent. And of course they were not paying the same tax rate everyone else does -- that's what happens when your a giant company in America.

Bro when Big Guv picking winners and losers it's not a true Free Market

Nobody really wants to drive RC Cars around

[JurisDictum]

You can argue this is all a bad thing though. I mean, how the fuck do we know if the money is being spent well for future profitability? That's not what drives the price of stocks. Not in America -- the underlying assists and balance sheet is like 1/28th of the price of the stock or less.

So now we have money pouring into Tesla -- then the price of the stock gets inflated -- people buy more the price goes up and the cycle continues...

Until its revealed the emperor has no cloths. Then there is a panic sell and bad crash for everyone involved.

[JurisDictum]

Bro when Big Guv picking winners and losers it's not a true Free Market

Nobody really wants to drive RC Cars around

How the hell are we supposed to get to the point where all this trading takes place in a free market without a whole lot of government propping it up?

Unless you define free market as what was going on before the Indians were conquered. Most people are talking a capitalist free market where you can trade unrestricted. The modern version -- anyone can trade at any time paying only tiny slivers of percentage point per trade.

Its inconceivable to have this level of efficiency and tech advancement without centuries of most high functioning governments building such an environment.

[unsunghero]

Bro when Big Guv picking winners and losers it's not a true Free Market

Nobody really wants to drive RC Cars around

I’m gonna miss the roar of a good naturally aspirated or turbo blown engine. I don’t think we can even use the term engine for electric, it’s “motor” now

The only thing electrics and hybrids have going for them, other than the gas mileage, is damn they are fast off the line. I follow trucks more than cars, but the F150 Lightning electric has like a 4 second 0-60 time, that’s faster than the Raptor even. I’m assuming due to less weight

But they sound like fucking RC cars! They sound like toys! It’s sad

[JurisDictum]

I think global warming can be a little hysterical of a topic. Its like the elites decided people will never do anything unless we are about to die -- so they tell everyone they are about to die.

They might be right to do it, but I still don't really believe it. Global warming is a thing that is being accelerated by burning fossil fuels. We need long term solutions for that. Electric cars is part of the puzzel. That's why the government gave out the damn grants.

[GinnasP99]

Globe, lol

[unsunghero]

I thought my co-worker was joking when he mentioned that the US is floating the idea of minting a trillion dollar coin and how that’s legally possible due to there being no limit on the amount one can mint in a particular medium, I think in this case platinum coinage

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trillion-dollar-coin-debt-ceiling-solution/

This would be to raise the debt ceiling with a ver low risk of inflation or something

Before he could even finish explaining it I asked “and what if someone steals it?” and he said basically the USA would be super fucked

Then we bounced around ideas as to what you could spend it on that would incur the least amount of loss, since literally no entity would be able to give you change

We found out you could buy 48 United States air craft carriers. You could have your own fleet. You could also buy the space station. You’d still incur some losses because neither of those add up to 999 billion, but they seem to be the least amount of losses

Then we speculated HTF would you transport that thing to the treasury or whatever? In one of those Dunbar armored cars, or helicopter? I said the more commotion the more attention it would bring, the better plan would be to have a fat mall cop walk it over with it in his pocket. No thief would ever suspect that’s where the trillion dollar coin is

[JurisDictum]

Well if you print 1 trillion $1 bills -- then lock them in a safe and never use them -- pretty low risk of those dollars inflating the economy. But the coin is more appealing for obvious reasons.

[unsunghero]

Well if you print 1 trillion $1 bills -- then lock them in a safe and never use them -- pretty low risk of those dollars inflating the economy.

Can’t. Has to be a coin in this specific metal, since it’s exploiting a loophole that has no limit as to the amount of money the government can mint in that medium. Not sure if the article explained it, didn’t read the article. But that’s why it needs to be a platinum coin

Edit: here it is, from the article “ It's because a quirky law from more than 20 years ago seems to allow the administration to mint coins of any denomination without congressional approval as long as they're platinum”

[JurisDictum]

in other words its a bullshit loophole. Which is fine, because the debt ceiling itself is kind of bullshit. I'm not that worried about it because the donor class isn't going to let a default happen.

[unsunghero]

in other words its a bullshit loophole. Which is fine, because the debt ceiling itself is kind of bullshit. I'm not that worried about it because the donor class isn't going to let a default happen.

Ya prolly not gonna happen but just fun to speculate what would you do with the trillion dollar coin? :)

[JurisDictum]

It would probably be better to just raise the ceiling. I mean that coin is just a talisman of DC dysfunction.

I guess it would be kind of funny to slowly build up a pile of coins as this crap continues over the years.

[unsunghero]

It would probably be better to just raise the ceiling. I mean that coin is just a talisman of DC dysfunction.

I guess it would be kind of funny to slowly build up a pile of coins as this crap continues over the years.

Yah, if I recall this stuff was happening during Trump’s term (and before?)

In fact I had an old meme that had Trump calling into tech support saying “the government isn’t doing what I want it to, what do you recommend?” And tech support saying “have you tried turning it off and then back on again?” And Trump’s eyes getting all wide like he hadn’t thought of that. But I gotta go on a jog and don’t have time to dig it up

But yah I remember these gov’t shutdowns happening before

[Mblake1981]

But they sound like fucking RC cars! They sound like toys! It’s sad

imagine when gas is gone and its all electric, guys racing those things just point the car (with advanced AI assistance because wrecks in a bloodsport are bad). No transmission, no clutch. All human error has been removed from the program. Some of the cars are fully AI-controlled which caused a stink but people forgot about it shortly after.

You are mostly watching which nerd programed it the best. In fact he gets the trophy but the real drivers are never seen or heard from. They just show up for a minimum wage paycheck.

NASCAR is already white-collar af. E-Nascar consists of AI cars running in a perfect circle. You can root for the Mark Zuckerberg Facebook AI cars. Elon Musk image is on all the posters. It boasts a safety rating of 20 years without accident.

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-man is replaced by a Steve Jobs iphone button but this was on its way when the 'flappy paddle' transmissions were introduced in F1. And to think some guys praise that stuff. Go get your thrills behind a desk.

[Horza]

Ivanka Trump is hot as shit. I’m sure the statements were more about her objective beauty and not an attempt at incest

What is wrong with conservatives these days? I don't care how hot your daughters are, it's still incest.

[Trexller]

What is wrong with conservatives these days? I don't care how hot your daughters are, it's still incest.

She's not my daughter!

https://i.imgur.com/KlsxJxY.jpg

Horza you would smash that and you know it.

[Jibartik]

If we can have vaccine mandates we can make Sunday a mandatory day off too. Sounds like horza could use it the way his mind keeps wandering to pedophilia. :o

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[unsunghero]

you should try having kids and discovering that it's possible to not look at them like sex objects.

I one time had a client who was a middle aged man, normal functional life, married, wife was there with us. He was having a manic state with psychosis. I’m trying to distract the client with some light conversation while my co-worker goes over mental health resources with his wife without his constant interruptions

I notice a pic of his cat and comment that I also have a cat. His response was “you have a cat too? Do you like cats? You fuck cats huh? Yeah you fuck cats”

And all I could think of at the time was the meme well that escalated quickly….

But before I could really react due to his rapid speech he transitioned into “do you like being tickled?” And started trying to tickle me, so I had to quickly disengage and remind him we aren’t allowed to touch or be touched by clients

After enough time doing this you just get used to bizarre behaviors…

[Whale biologist]

in other words its a bullshit loophole. Which is fine, because the debt ceiling itself is kind of bullshit. I'm not that worried about it because the donor class isn't going to let a default happen.

they can't actually do that it's more of a stage prop like a rubber chicken :p

the trillion dollar coin isn't real it cant hurt you

[Jibartik]

the trillion dollar coin isn't real it cant hurt you

this is just a trillion dollar coin for my family

[Duik]

Broken people are funny. Those that work with them are as well. Had a mate who worked in mental health. Oldies mostly, they rarely went out and one old bloke never went out.
His room had a funny smell.
They tried subtly to get him out. Maccas ended up being the correct enticement. Turns out he was pooping in a tissue, wrapping them up and storing them in his chest of drawers.
Prolly the gubaments fault.
Toilet monster?
Who knows.
No wonder no one sings for you.

[unsunghero]

Broken people are funny. Those that work with them are as well. Had a mate who worked in mental health. Oldies mostly, they rarely went out and one old bloke never went out.
His room had a funny smell.
They tried subtly to get him out. Maccas ended up being the correct enticement. Turns out he was pooping in a tissue, wrapping them up and storing them in his chest of drawers.
Prolly the gubaments fault.
Toilet monster?
Who knows.
No wonder no one sings for you.

Maybe the old dude was farming some Holgresh Elder Beads on p99?

[Duik]

Busted for rmt?
Or nerfed.
Gotta say though, i said you a better man than i.
I KNOW i couldn't remain unaffected by that.
He says If I didn't do it, who would.
I think old mate had notes on each pooh as well.

[Knowledge]

After a good deal of consideration, I think I hate Trump and Obama more than Hillary, even though she planned to attack Russia week 1. At least it would've been an undivided USA versus Russia. What Obama and Trump did is evil, dividing us away from peace and love for fellow Americans.

So basically our choice in the 21st century has been: Do you want WAR? or Do you want CIVIL WAR? wow. what a choice...

[Duik]

Ivanka was pissed she never got an invite to pedo island. Then she realised she was too old.
Would'nt fuckit with your dick.
Guba cant organise a root in a brothel, what makes us think they can instigate and enact a conspiracy.

[Knowledge]

Ivanka was pissed she never got an invite to pedo island. Then she realised she was too old.
Would'nt fuckit with your dick.
Guba cant organise a root in a brothel, what makes us think they can instigate and enact a conspiracy.

No one from America says brothel where the fuck are you from

And why cant we talk shit about the politics in other countries, whys it gotta just be America.

You think just America is fucked up beyond all repair? Open your eyes.

[walfreyydo]

Yah, if I recall this stuff was happening during Trump’s term (and before?)

In fact I had an old meme that had Trump calling into tech support saying “the government isn’t doing what I want it to, what do you recommend?” And tech support saying “have you tried turning it off and then back on again?” And Trump’s eyes getting all wide like he hadn’t thought of that. But I gotta go on a jog and don’t have time to dig it up

But yah I remember these gov’t shutdowns happening before

Raising the debt ceiling is different than funding the government. Two entirely different things.

[JurisDictum]

It's a damn good thing we got a ceiling. Otherwise people might start to think its all a load of shit and they can raise the debt whenever.

[Jibartik]

my prediction is the next generations will consider debt as just something people have, or even a sign of nobility. Those with the most debt, like our government, have it because they want to make the world a better place.

So instead of giving children inheritance you will give them debt. But they wont be upset with that, because debt is something that is good.

And to make all this possible the debtors that own the planet will just call the payments you make, taxes.

[unsunghero]

my prediction is the next generations will consider debt as just something people have, or even a sign of nobility. Those with the most debt, like our government, have it because they want to make the world a better place.

So instead of giving children inheritance you will give them debt. But they wont be upset with that, because debt is something that is good.

And to make all this possible the debtors that own the planet will just call the payments you make, taxes.

[Elizondo]

I think the mods gonna let this thread go on and on until everyone sick of politics

[Gatordash]

I think the mods gonna let this thread go on and on until everyone sick of politics

The thread goes on until you don't care about politics anymore.

[Horza]

Asked about Trump aides refusing to testify, Rep. Murphy said “we have engaged with a wide variety of law enforcement offices, including the U.S. Marshals, in order to issue the subpoenas. We will use everything, as you said, with all due respect, we will use all of the agencies and all of the tools at our disposal to issue the subpoenas and enforce them.”

Her remarks come a day after Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the committee into the Capitol riot, warned that she will seek criminal contempt changes against anybody who fails to comply with the subpoenas issued last month.

[Elizondo]

Asked about Trump aides refusing to testify, Rep. Murphy said “we have engaged with a wide variety of law enforcement offices, including the U.S. Marshals, in order to issue the subpoenas. We will use everything, as you said, with all due respect, we will use all of the agencies and all of the tools at our disposal to issue the subpoenas and enforce them.”

Her remarks come a day after Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the committee into the Capitol riot, warned that she will seek criminal contempt changes against anybody who fails to comply with the subpoenas issued last month.

I dunno man

You prolly the only dude that cares about this theater

[Ooloo]

It would be great if they did the same thing to address actual problems, like the BLM riots that went on for months and caused billions of dollars in damage and claimed about 50 lives. It would be great if they cared about that. Instead though viking hat man is persona non grata.

[Whale biologist]

It would be great if they did the same thing to address actual problems, like the BLM riots that went on for months and caused billions of dollars in damage and claimed about 50 lives. It would be great if they cared about that. Instead though viking hat man is persona non grata.

Sacking the capitol is a greater offence than vandalizing a Wendy's.

Hth

[Horza]

It would be great if they did the same thing to address actual problems, like the BLM riots that went on for months and caused billions of dollars in damage and claimed about 50 lives. It would be great if they cared about that. Instead though viking hat man is persona non grata.

BLM ate my baby!

[Ooloo]

You guys missed the part where I said about 50 people died.

Killing 50 people is worse than vandalizing a wendys. I think you probably agree with that, I hope.

If all they did was vandalize a wendy's, I would agree. But that is not all they did. 50 people died.

[unsunghero]

You guys missed the part where I said about 50 people died.

Killing 50 people is worse than vandalizing a wendys. I think you probably agree with that, I hope.

Horza: something something cop’s head in a door

I can’t predict the exact wording

[Ooloo]

Woooahhh, watch out guys! I'm gonna vandalize this wendy's! Please don't die!

[Whale biologist]

You guys missed the part where I said about 50 people died.

Killing 50 people is worse than vandalizing a wendys. I think you probably agree with that, I hope.

If all they did was vandalize a wendy's, I would agree. But that is not all they did. 50 people died.

Seems made up.

[Ooloo]

Nah it's not made up at all. About 50 people died. Also hundreds of others were seriously injured, and many innocent business owners were permanently shut down. People like to say "well, there's insurance!" as if insurance just magically covers everything. It does not always cover the monetary costs (ever heard of a deductible?) nor does it cover the emotional and sentimental costs. The blm rioters were making innocent people's lives worse while pretending to do a good thing. Accept it, cope.

[Elizondo]

Seems made up.

I dunno man ....

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[Horza]

Horza: something something cop’s head in a door

I can’t predict the exact wording

Those were peaceful protestors trying to violently murder capitol police.

[Elizondo]

Those were peaceful protestors trying to violently murder capitol police.

Naw man

That fake news was debunked a long time ago

[Horza]

Naw man

That fake news was debunked a long time ago

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