the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Whale biologist]

Finally a non-trans culture war topic:
Manslaughter conviction of 21-year-old Oklahoma woman who suffered miscarriage sparks outcry (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/woman-convicted-manslaughter-miscarriage-outrage/)


Encase no one here has ever heard of "Oklahoma" its a state in this country apparently. You can tell by their retarded allocation of resources and backward-ass priorities.

seems like a test ballon for higher court(s) jurisprudence

NWPA with attitude!

[unsunghero]

Finally a non-trans culture war topic:
Manslaughter conviction of 21-year-old Oklahoma woman who suffered miscarriage sparks outcry (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/woman-convicted-manslaughter-miscarriage-outrage/)


Encase no one here has ever heard of "Oklahoma" its a state in this country apparently. You can tell by their retarded allocation of resources and backward-ass priorities.

Pretty fucked

In my state if a child is born with illegal hard drugs in their system the state seizes custody right from the Hospital, and if the mom wants to get custody of her child back, she has to complete a substance abuse treatment program such as a 12-step program

Speaking of that, I was on hold for Child Protective Services tonight for like 30 straight minutes, and it’s funny when I called their recording begins with “Are you interested in a job working for CPS? We have openings right here on our hotline!” This is before I am even allowed to hit a prompt for making a mandated report. It’s like they are begging “Hey, do you like these 30+ minute holds? No? Then work for us! Please. We are desperate….”

I half expected when I finally got a phone specialist that she was going to say “are you calling to inquire about being hired by CPS?” And when I replied “No I need to make a mandated report” that she’d hang up on me before I could finish the sentence lol. But luckily that was not the case

But yea, CPS is more desperate than ever. Even before the labor shortage it was a very stressful (and occasionally dangerous) job, incredibly high case-loads, incredibly high turnover

[unsunghero]

Oh I guess in regards to “is a fetus protected by the rights of a person” argument, I am not allowed to make a CPS report based on what the mom is doing to her fetus

She could be drinking a bottle of whiskey a day while shooting meth and the report won’t be investigated by CPS

Fetuses have no rights

[Whale biologist]

Fetuses have no rights

well they're stateless so duh

[Trexller]

entirely too many of these threads are a futile exercise in verbal masturbation.

[Whale biologist]

entirely too many of these threads are a futile exercise in verbal masturbation.

I liked what you did earlier but it's time to glow up.

[Trexller]

I liked what you did earlier but it's time to glow up.

ya'll go round and round, nothing changes, then afterward you're spent and tired, whats the difference?

also, what did i do earlier? :confused: also what mean "glow up"?

[unsunghero]

well they're stateless so duh

I was honestly surprised by it. When I was a newbie to my position I tried making a report for a lady that was shooting meth and heroin daily while pregnant, trying to save the future child from possible birth defects. Was shocked to discover it wouldn’t be investigated

Hmm, other stuff that people might not know about CPS…they can actually be somewhat chill about recreational illegal drug use as a parent. If a parent is using something like meth, but not appearing intoxicated when caring for the child or allowing their child to have any accidental access to it, CPS can be surprisingly chill

I remember a case of a mom who would leave her child in the custody of her separated ex (who was responsible), then go on a weekend meth binge at a motel by herself. Then sober up and pick the child back up after. CPS will get involved and investigate, might offer the parent some substance abuse support, but they won’t sever rights in that scenario because the mom was leaving the child with a supportive trustworthy adult before becoming intoxicated and the child had no accidental access to or exposure to the drug

Another scenario that CPS doesn’t want to touch us homelessness. If you are, say, living out of your car with your child, as long as it is not a very little kid (under age 6 or so), CPS will not sever your rights to your kid because a car is still considered shelter. I had a parent begging CPS to take temporary custody of their teen son who was living with her out of her car and they wouldn’t do it, surprisingly

[Whale biologist]

ya'll go round and round, nothing changes, then afterward you're spent and tired, whats the difference?

also, what did i do earlier? :confused: also what mean "glow up"?

you were nice to J in her meltdown thread.

I'd like your take on the stateless fetus thing :)

[Whale biologist]

because a car is still considered shelter.

man there was a court ruling i saw maybe a month ago where they ruled you can't force a guys truck to move(off the hospital ER road for ambulances) because it's a 'house' and i thought that was very whacky 9th circuit stuff but i guess it's all over. :(

[unsunghero]

man there was a court ruling i saw maybe a month ago where they ruled you can't force a guys truck to move(off the hospital ER road for ambulances) because it's a 'house' and i thought that was very whacky 9th circuit stuff but i guess it's all over. :(

But ya gotta have something. I remember a young, possibly ID (Intellectually deficient, the politically correct clinical term for borderline legally retarded) naive mom who had just taken a greyhound bus to my state with her like 1yr old baby and was homeless

She mentioned she had slept in a park with the infant the last 2 nights. Needless to say when I made the mandated report CPS sent their AHIT (after hours investigation team) an hour after I called to find either the mom or the infant some shelter

That shit won’t fly with them. Gotta have some form of shelter, responsibility as a parent. Food, shelter, clothes, medicine if needed

[Trexller]

you were nice to J in her meltdown thread.

I'd like your take on the stateless fetus thing :)

i didnt do anything other than be like woah, slow down, shits not as bad as it seems and can be dealt with.

and no, you don't want my opinion on abortion, nobody on either side of the aisle does.

but here it is anyway:

Abortion is a necessary evil. Take a look at any current population density map and tell me exactly how we are going to meet the needs of 10+ billion people.

No, its not a nice political statement you can run a campaign on, No its not gonna make your "god" happy, No its not something in a nice neat little package to be served up as a solution.

Its a nasty business, and absolutely necessary. I am not pro choice or pro life. I am pro-human.

This is the same shit as the IK meltdown defusal, its real world pragmatism, but alot of you serfs won't be able to look past the ideologies fed to you as children to see the reality of the world we live in.

[unsunghero]

Last little-known thing about CPS before I go swim laps: Have you ever heard a parent threaten to send their kid to a group home, or to give up custody? I’ve heard it so many times, hundreds of times

If your parent ever angrily did it to you, it’s almost always a hollow threat. You can call CPS and ask to give up custody of your kid. They will give you a ton of shit about it and remind the parent it is FELONY neglect. Oh and if they take the one “problem” kid, they take ALL the kids, you don’t get to pick which kids you keep. And you don’t get any back

So I educate parents, as politely and diplomatically as I can, that these threats in addition to being very damaging for a child to hear, are also not possible. I have had a few parents still insist though, telling CPS something like “take this fucker I don’t care about the felony”. I’ve seen it a handful of times, actually :(

[Elizondo]

UoAn7UDVZeU

[JurisDictum]

i didnt do anything other than be like woah, slow down, shits not as bad as it seems and can be dealt with.

and no, you don't want my opinion on abortion, nobody on either side of the aisle does.

but here it is anyway:

Abortion is a necessary evil. Take a look at any current population density map and tell me exactly how we are going to meet the needs of 10+ billion people.

No, its not a nice political statement you can run a campaign on, No its not gonna make your "god" happy, No its not something in a nice neat little package to be served up as a solution.

Its a nasty business, and absolutely necessary. I am not pro choice or pro life. I am pro-human.

This is the same shit as the IK meltdown defusal, its real world pragmatism, but alot of you serfs won't be able to look past the ideologies fed to you as children to see the reality of the world we live in.

That tends to be how I look at it. I just add some dressing about how we shouldn't demonize the would-be mothers.

My mom was a social worker. She often talked about these drug addict women that would just have one kid after the other. Shes a pretty empathic person from a rough background herself. But even she after awhile would say "we need to sterilize these people" or something to that effect.

Drug addicts produce kids with problems -- the developmental psychology/biology actually matters a lot in these baby phases. So the state has to fund these kids and their psychological problems until their 18. Usually by then they are good and fucked up -- so they proceed the cost the system even more in services and the justice system.

Its just a shit situation that our society isn't well equipped for. This situation will just get worse without abortion.

[Jibartik]

UoAn7UDVZeU

in line for vaccine 3

https://i.imgur.com/jJmiG2h.gif

[Nexii]

That tends to be how I look at it. I just add some dressing about how we shouldn't demonize the would-be mothers.

My mom was a social worker. She often talked about these drug addict women that would just have one kid after the other. Shes a pretty empathic person from a rough background herself. But even she after awhile would say "we need to sterilize these people" or something to that effect.

Drug addicts produce kids with problems -- the developmental psychology/biology actually matters a lot in these baby phases. So the state has to fund these kids and their psychological problems until their 18. Usually by then they are good and fucked up -- so they proceed the cost the system even more in services and the justice system.

Its just a shit situation that our society isn't well equipped for. This situation will just get worse without abortion.

Really makes me want to get around to watching Idiocracy.

[Gatordash]

ImpK. Pay attention to what is happening. This board has gone completely right wing at the administrator level.

I have wanted a reason to do the things that will now be done for a long time. Sorry if it interrupts y'alls shitposting spot.

I may be conservative, but gay men do wonders for home values. We should all be so lucky as to have a few gay couples in the neighborhood pulling up those home prices.

[unsunghero]

UoAn7UDVZeU

[Horza]

Donald Trump will launch his own social media app, Truth Social, that he said would "stand up to Big Tech" companies such as Twitter and Facebook that have barred him from their platforms. (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-us-president-donald-trump-launches-new-social-media-platform-2021-10-21/)

[Knowledge]

Make Social Media Great Again

[unsunghero]

Donald Trump will launch his own social media app, Truth Social, that he said would "stand up to Big Tech" companies such as Twitter and Facebook that have barred him from their platforms. (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-us-president-donald-trump-launches-new-social-media-platform-2021-10-21/)

He probably will. My family has tried to drag me off FB to other ones in the past, but I’m pretty entrenched on FB with like 3,000+ pics hosted there

“If you don’t like FB/Twitter censorship why don’t you go start your own platform?”

How many times has this been said before?

[Horza]

Make Social Media Great Again

Whatever happened to Rumble, anyway?

[Jibartik]

Whatever happened to Rumble, anyway?

Conservatives have too much work to do to social media that's what.

[Trexller]

Whatever happened to Rumble, anyway?

i've been given to understand that it resides in the Bronx

[Jibartik]

It will be funny when Truth social media has to shut down because it cant afford the costs of moderating their sites to prevent any future litigation after we strike down section 230, in the name of "truthful social media"

lol

[Gatordash]

Donald Trump will launch his own social media app, Truth Social, that he said would "stand up to Big Tech" companies such as Twitter and Facebook that have barred him from their platforms. (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/former-us-president-donald-trump-launches-new-social-media-platform-2021-10-21/)

He's launching a SPAC (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/21/trump-linked-spac-shares-soar-more-than-40percent-on-news-of-social-media-deal.html) to fund it with like no information and apparently they've had to suspend trading on it multiple times today because they are getting so much money.

[bubur]

i know im like a week behind, but whats this let's go brandon shit about. i looked up the lyrics and it looks like its barely moderately critical, and frankly looks like someone threw up on the paper. there's like 1 verse. depressingly unimpressive

yall remember immortal technique? that was some holy shit level of critical

also that DWAC stock jumped like 300% today

[Jibartik]

Its a PC way of saying fuck joe biden.

Some sports event was happening and everyone was like fuck joe biden for some reason while they interviewed the winner and the winner said, I think theyre saying lets go brandon or something, cus his name was brandon i dont know but it has to do with nascar or something.

[bubur]

zzz back to diablo 2

carry on elf politico's

[Gatordash]

zzz back to diablo 2

carry on elf politico's

Here you go.

TfkOiIQXewo

[Jibartik]

nailed it! Im such an athlete.

[Gatordash]

nailed it! Im such an athlete.

The comedic timing is pretty great actually.

They way she pauses after saying, "as you can hear the chants from the crowd"....

and its so clear they say 'fuck joe biden'

and then she goes, "Lets go Brandon!"

Is comic timing gold.

[Horza]

The comedic timing is pretty great actually.

They way she pauses after saying, "as you can hear the chants from the crowd"....

and its so clear they say 'fuck joe biden'

and then she goes, "Lets go Brandon!"

Is comic timing gold.

I may have just figured out why so few professional comedians are conservatives.

[Jibartik]

no hes right that timing was hilarious and if you dont get it please shut up, you're not fun at parties, or online.

[Horza]

If you need to be a Trumptard to get the joke, then it's not very funny.

[Jibartik]

Whatever you gotta tell yourself while you pick your naval unable to interact with other humans.

[Whale biologist]

Make Social Media Great Again

Make America Smile Again :)

[Gatordash]

If you need to be a Trumptard to get the joke, then it's not very funny.

Hey Horza, we are a year into the Biden administration, do you think in year 2 and 3 he is going to still be blaming Trump for everything? (https://twitter.com/i/status/1451269573538418692)

[Horza]

Jib told me Trump is currently still president and January 6th was just peaceful tourists storming the Capitol.

[starkind]

little bit of narcissism here

can anyone kill me worse than I am killing myself???

(this goes for u2)

[Jibartik]

Im not surprised that's what you hear.

They were mostly peaceful protests.

And trump WILL be president again.

[bubur]

little bit of narcissism here

can anyone kill me worse than I am killing myself???

(this goes for u2)

i am not sure what youre asking but i like that band

[Jibartik]

lol trump's done more than biden since he got elected lol

bS68txf99-I

[Horza]

You've got a little something on your chin there, Jib.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/WRCN0bX.png

[unsunghero]

little bit of narcissism here

can anyone kill me worse than I am killing myself???

(this goes for u2)

Health and wellness is just the slowest possible rate at which you can die

If I owned a gym that’d be our slogan

[Whale biologist]

lol trump's done more than biden since he got elected lol

bS68txf99-I

Trump ally Steve Bannon held in criminal contempt (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/steven-bannon-contempt-charge-vote-10-21-21/index.html)

Let's see Trump wriggle his way out of this jam!

[robayon]

*Trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily*

[Jibartik]

Trump ally Steve Bannon held in criminal contempt (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/steven-bannon-contempt-charge-vote-10-21-21/index.html)

Let's see Trump wriggle his way out of this jam!

https://i.imgur.com/hefAPxb.png

:D

[Ooloo]

Oh man, look at that headline! Steve Bannon held in criminal contempt!

I guess that means he *should* be! When something I like happens, it can't be wrong! And when something I don't like happens, it can't be right!

See how simple and binary my brain is?

Lol and it's even from cnn... ugh

[Horza]

Oh man, look at that headline! Steve Bannon held in criminal contempt!

I guess that means he *should* be! When something I like happens, it can't be wrong! And when something I don't like happens, it can't be right!

See how simple and binary my brain is?

Lol and it's even from cnn... ugh

Elections have consequences, paste eater.

[Ooloo]

Elections have consequences, paste eater.

You've said exactly this before.

Yes elections do have consequences; like how electing biden was an absolutely terrible idea, and every metric is now worse. Great job, biden voters!

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/hefAPxb.png

:D

[unsunghero]

..

[Horza]

Yes elections do have consequences; like how electing biden was an absolutely terrible idea, and every metric is now worse. Great job, biden voters!

https://i.imgur.com/QVRflDr.png

[Jibartik]

Steve Bannon is more likely to end his arch decapitating the hydra than sitting in one of its courts.

[Ooloo]

https://i.imgur.com/QVRflDr.png

So covid is now worse under biden? Yes I agree

[Horza]

So covid is now worse under biden? Yes I agree

Worse in the states nobody who really matters cares about maybe, paste eater.

[Jibartik]

All that map proves is that the southerners live among minorities and California busses them in from out of state every morning before the hotels open.

[Horza]

Busses them in from out of state? California has the largest Latino population in the country, idiot.

[Jibartik]

See this is why your opinion on comedy is invalid.

[Whale biologist]

Steve Bannon is more likely to end his arch decapitating the hydra than sitting in one of its courts.

DoJ will decline the request unless we're in The Cool Zone. 🎸

[Horza]

See this is why your opinion on comedy is invalid.

Only fringe right lunatics buy DVDs?

[Ooloo]

Worse in the states nobody who really matters cares about maybe, paste eater.

At the beginning of the pandemic, NY and Michigan would have been dark purple. Do you understand linear time and how things change? Also many states with bad outcomes have very high elderly populations, which makes total sense. But you're a psycho idiot so...

I love how you have nothing but utter contempt for the right, but pretend to care about them dying? I mean what is your point even?

Horza post generator: "The right bad. Horse paste lol! BeepBoop I'm a partisan retard."

[Whale biologist]

Japanese government falls during Covid Pandemic (https://www.npr.org/2021/10/14/1045895456/japans-new-pm-dissolves-lower-house-for-oct-31-national-election)

Prime Minister Fumio Kishida dissolved the lower house of parliament Thursday, paving the way for elections.

[Ooloo]

Japanese government falls during Covid Pandemic (https://www.npr.org/2021/10/14/1045895456/japans-new-pm-dissolves-lower-house-for-oct-31-national-election)

Haha the government didn't fall at all, and it has literally nothing to do with covid. They're replacing a guy they don't like who has been in power for nine years.

I dunno if it's you or npr trying desperately to link this to covid, but it's just politics as usual.

"Government FALLS! Ahhhh!!!". No, they are fine.

[Whale biologist]

Haha the government didn't fall at all, and it has literally nothing to do with covid. They're replacing a guy they don't like who has been in power for nine years.

I dunno if it's you or npr trying desperately to link this to covid, but it's just politics as usual.

"Government FALLS! Ahhhh!!!". No, they are fine.

Nope Abe left awhile ago

[starkind]

Are the trains still running on time?

[Ooloo]

Covid mask nazis.mp4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzlt7IbTp6M

[Elizondo]

Horza posts brought to you by Pfizer

[Jibartik]

Bidens last words tionight.

It's easier to stop someone from doing something, than to do something.

He says angrily about the republican congress stopping him.

Doesnt notice the irony that what he really meant was trump, and now he's clueless as to what to do.

:o

[Ooloo]

If you give him money and power, he will provide to you the glorious monorail!

It's literally a simpsons episode.

[JurisDictum]

So an exxon executive was given a mock job interview by journalists. Fake interviews are a bit immoral IMO -- but sometimes ends justify means. And to barrow a phrase from the exec, "there's nothing illegal about that."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ6kEGM6O_M

McCoy compares donating to politicians and political causes to fishing. Some great visuals there. He also admitted "carbon tax" was just a talking point that put out there because it "will never happen." The roads and bridges talking points were constructed by them.*

This was probably allowed to happen because of the powerful interest against business as usual with fossil fuels. But its the same damn thing on every issue.

* They oppose tech advancement with green energy across the board and try to hamper it. So they insisted climate provision that don't directly do anything to them be taken out of the spending bill.

[bubur]

didnt need anything except my investment in ICLN etf when biden got elected to know all that

i thought they would actually do a lil sum sum for green energy and i got dumped on hard

my pipeline stocks did good tho, go figure

[JurisDictum]

I did a similar thing trying to invest in private prisons before Trump got re-elected in 2020...

Well, we saw how that went. I decided not to try to be too ahead of the curve. Just being with the curve is kind of the whole point.

[Jibartik]

10% of america owns stocks lol

here's what I think is happening. Right now people are spending less, so they think they can quit their jobs and blow their savings.

Home owners and stock owners (normal people) are doing well, becuase they have homes, WFH and stocks, which are doing extremely well!

Then when the poor's start to think they will just start going back to work when they're ready, but they'll be in for a surprise.

While all this was happening prices were steadily rising, which was allowed because of the stock growth and the worker shorteges.

And the poors will become desperate to get back to work and they will take the same wages they thought were not enough.

And so they'll go back to work for the same money, prices will stay high, and judgment day is inevitable.

[JurisDictum]

The reason I buy stocks despite not being a professional or insider, is because I know the country won't take away that money I put away in there (or the business) if it is at all in their power to stop it.

More than I can say for alot of other investiments. If you save money -- which you should -- you should probably put it in things likely to get bigger and keep up with inflation.

This video is a good explaination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFgPNVytlwA

But yea. People that do this are people trying to get well-off or rich one day. So most of the middle and lower class is excluded by habit and knowledge. Especially since pensions aren't a thing as much these days.

[Jibartik]

If you bet on America at any time in either of our parents lifetimes you'd come out a winner.

The question is will that never end?

Also make sure that when you are about to retire it's not during a housing crash :o

9/10 if you get an FA and give him your moneies, youll make more money than if you try investing on your own.

Although if ADA goes cray cray I will change that philosophy :p

[JurisDictum]

10% of america owns stocks lol

here's what I think is happening. Right now people are spending less, so they think they can quit their jobs and blow their savings.

Home owners and stock owners (normal people) are doing well, becuase they have homes, WFH and stocks, which are doing extremely well!

Then when the poor's start to think they will just start going back to work when they're ready, but they'll be in for a surprise.

While all this was happening prices were steadily rising, which was allowed because of the stock growth and the worker shorteges.

And the poors will become desperate to get back to work and they will take the same wages they thought were not enough.

And so they'll go back to work for the same money, prices will stay high, and judgment day is inevitable.

What you're are describing there is the theory on how we run an economy like ours. Its called a "Liberal Market Economy". Opposed to a "Coordinated Market Economy."

The LME wants their labor force to be flexible. That means, you can do all kinds of different jobs, expect to be fired at will from your employer, and have no safety net to encourage complacency.

We are the most like this out of any of the big capitalist countries. Although we include other countries like the UK and Australia in this list.

Opposed to continental Europe like Sweden and Germany. Their economies are centered around preserving their skilled labor force and the sectors they work in. You are not on your ass if you get layed off, and education is funded to make sure you can actually do something worthwhile in the economy.

In these countries, you don't see the same problem where those fresh out of school can't find jobs. The schools themselves are built around getting you job ready.

Unlike our college model which is designed around making an elite finishing school for those already well connected and supported.

[Jibartik]

The unique factor here, is that because of covid nobody is going to the club at the rate we used to, or eating out, so they are saving more money.

I think this is creating an illusion the working class is using to subsidise the strikes and labor shorteges we're seeing right now.

But what they dont know is that what they're doing is eating through any savings the pandemic may have given them, and when they run out as the pandemic comes to an end ( or if not we collapse for other reasons ) they will come to realize that they are desperate to go back to work, but it's not as easy to get a job as it was before.

So it creates a unique bubble to screw up that house of cards you describe lol

[JurisDictum]

I'm not sure the above situation will make people more likely to sell Microsoft* than buy it. Which is ultimately the only thing that moves a stock price. The very fact that the vast majority of stocks are owned by the top 10% who are likely to be fine, means that they aren't going to have to sell them.

*Just an example stock that is considered relatively safe in the long term.

[JurisDictum]

So I found out why there was that sting on the Exxon executive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPe6c9cBc3E

It's part of Biden hitting Manchin hard for fucking with his legacy.

You can skip to the commercial part if you don't like Kyle Kulinskii. I don't particular like him and he agrees with me all the damn time.

[Whale biologist]

So I found out why there was that sting on the Exxon executive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPe6c9cBc3E

It's part of Biden hitting Manchin hard for fucking with his legacy.

You can skip to the commercial part if you don't like Kyle Kulinskii. I don't particular like him and he agrees with me all the damn time.

The ad was stupid and he's an idiot.

Biden has already moved significantly toward Manchins number, and it won't go up.

[Whale biologist]

'corrupt' is some 3rd world ass European shit

Kyle Kulinski for kidnergarten.

[JurisDictum]

Kyle Kulinski is a great example of how low the bar is to be a popular political commentator.

I mean if Joe Rogan isn't convincing enough for you.

Edit: the ad was great though

[Whale biologist]

Kyle Kulinski is a great example of how low the bar is to be a popular political commentator.

I mean if Joe Rogan isn't convincing enough for you.

Edit: the ad was great though

Coal is like 2% of west Virginia's enomocy. I really wish we didn't have to pretend to care about coal.

[Knowledge]

Actor Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed one woman and injured a man on the New Mexico set of the movie "Rust," Santa Fe County authorities said.

That's so fucked up.

[JurisDictum]

I don't get how someone puts a god damn live bullet in a prop gun by mistake. That's a manslaughter level mistake right there.

[Knowledge]

Look at Brandon Lee on the Crow set in Wilmington NC.

[Jibartik]

Damn dude that guy doesnt seem like the kinda guy that deserves to go to sleep thinking about those eyes looking at him as he shot and killed them.

[Knowledge]

Rand Paul blasts Anthony Fauci after NIH admits gain-of-function funding

I told you USA helped fund COVID19 creation in Wuhan. They're trying to kill 7.3 billion of us.

You wont find this on CNN.

[Toxigen]

If you don't think the "vaccine" was developed in parallel with the virus you deserve what is coming.

[JurisDictum]

Rand Paul blasts Anthony Fauci after NIH admits gain-of-function funding

I told you USA helped fund COVID19 creation in Wuhan. They're trying to kill 7.3 billion of us.

You wont find this on CNN.


Well good for Rand Paul getting it out in the open. But I'm guessing this will just turn into some kind of partisan shit.

It would be nice if we could get some public heat on the fact that we are continuing to make these bio weapons (whether the intention of the research or not). Its just a matter of time before another crazy illness x10 worse than covid.

It might take 50 years but it will happen if we continue to do it in these sketchy Chinese labs. Not to mention the utter retardation of giving our biggest rival all this science as well.

What is all this risk for? So we can sell a bunch of flu shots throughout the year? That's the impression I'm getting.

[Whale biologist]

Well good for Rand Paul getting it out in the open. But I'm guessing this will just turn into some kind of partisan shit.

It would be nice if we could get some public heat on the fact that we are continuing to make these bio weapons (whether the intention of the research or not). Its just a matter of time before another crazy illness x10 worse than covid.

It might take 50 years but it will happen if we continue to do it in these sketchy Chinese labs. Not to mention the utter retardation of giving our biggest rival all this science as well.

What is all this risk for? So we can sell a bunch of flu shots throughout the year? That's the impression I'm getting.

No such thing as rival, wrong word. China is near-peer or less, like France. Our only peers are the UK and mayyyyyybe AUS.

Anyway what's gain of function?

[Knowledge]

In 50 years everyone on Earth will have long been dead. Fruit Bat Virus. Did you really believe this was not Armageddon?

They're (Illuminati) using YOUR tax dollars to try to discover how to kill you, yours, and everyone else.

Hackers broke into Donald Trump's upcoming social media site, creating fake accounts for Trump and Steve Bannon and posting a photo of a defecating pig. Stupid DNCtards. Where them emails bitch?

bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch and Bill's a bitch too for not leaving you.

IMAGINE HAVING TO LIVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE WITH, AND THEN DIE IN BED NEXT TO HILLARY CLINTON.

Republicans better be ready to bring out every cheat known to 'win' 2024, same as DNC did in 2020. Political WAR is on.
Chelsea isn't going to keep your dynasty going. You two idiots gave up your lifes for nothing.

[Botten]

Rand Paul blasts Anthony Fauci after NIH admits gain-of-function funding

I told you USA helped fund COVID19 creation in Wuhan. They're trying to kill 7.3 billion of us.

You wont find this on CNN.

This is so stupid and it comes from the very Republican (Rand Paul) that didn't use precaution and got Covid19.

The human population has seen a Coronavirus (what Covid19 is) in the past kill millions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

To think a coronavirus has to be engineered and released on the public is ridiculously stupid and at one time was only meant as comedy.

My God, SARS-Cov-2 (a Coronavirus) had just affected China in 2004.

In fact there are over 500 Coronavirus like viruses found in some of the bats studied.
It would be irresponsible if we didn't study these viruses (even stated by Fauci)
And yes some of them can be passed on to humans from the bat.

Hell, Scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology went to the cave to collect guano samples. In November 2019, three researchers became sick with a flu-like illness and sought hospital care, according to a U.S. intelligence.

The first known coronavirus cases were reported in late December 2019 in Wuhan province, and the first death was reported there in January 2020. It is very possible those individuals passed the Conoravirus we know now as a variant Covid19.

We seem to forget the mismanaged response to this virus in the US was clearly from one party. Those that continue to pass misinformation by regurgitation word of mouth (their own research) are the problem. To the point many of these who have succumb to this misinformation have turned to Xenophobia to work out their aggression and confusion.

"Knowledge" who is just Nirgon and Meso you are extremely to easily manipulated by conspiracy theories. Saying get help really isn't going to fix anything. Even taking your soapbox away hasn't helped. Others just need to realize you have issues. I just feel bad that partisan posters will look to your statements as supporting talking points.

[Knowledge]

Yes, I'm your God's God. Is your God love, money, or lust? I'm the God of all that.

Fruit Bat.

[Horza]

Must be nice to have staff ignore your parachute accounts blatantly dodging bans and ranting about paste eater conspiracy theories.

[Jibartik]

Well good for Rand Paul getting it out in the open. But I'm guessing this will just turn into some kind of partisan shit.

It would be nice if we could get some public heat on the fact that we are continuing to make these bio weapons (whether the intention of the research or not). Its just a matter of time before another crazy illness x10 worse than covid.

It might take 50 years but it will happen if we continue to do it in these sketchy Chinese labs. Not to mention the utter retardation of giving our biggest rival all this science as well.

What is all this risk for? So we can sell a bunch of flu shots throughout the year? That's the impression I'm getting.

the goverment working on a bioweapon that kills everyone is basically the theme to every sci fi book ever it's inevitable unless we change who we are fundamentally and the only way that is going to happen is if jesus shows up.

[Ooloo]

This is so stupid and it comes from the very Republican (Rand Paul) that didn't use precaution and got Covid19.

The human population has seen a Coronavirus (what Covid19 is) in the past kill millions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

To think a coronavirus has to be engineered and released on the public is ridiculously stupid and at one time was only meant as comedy.

My God, SARS-Cov-2 (a Coronavirus) had just affected China in 2004.

In fact there are over 500 Coronavirus like viruses found in some of the bats studied.
It would be irresponsible if we didn't study these viruses (even stated by Fauci)
And yes some of them can be passed on to humans from the bat.

Hell, Scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology went to the cave to collect guano samples. In November 2019, three researchers became sick with a flu-like illness and sought hospital care, according to a U.S. intelligence.

The first known coronavirus cases were reported in late December 2019 in Wuhan province, and the first death was reported there in January 2020. It is very possible those individuals passed the Conoravirus we know now as a variant Covid19.

We seem to forget the mismanaged response to this virus in the US was clearly from one party. Those that continue to pass misinformation by regurgitation word of mouth (their own research) are the problem. To the point many of these who have succumb to this misinformation have turned to Xenophobia to work out their aggression and confusion.

"Knowledge" who is just Nirgon and Meso you are extremely to easily manipulated by conspiracy theories. Saying get help really isn't going to fix anything. Even taking your soapbox away hasn't helped. Others just need to realize you have issues. I just feel bad that partisan posters will look to your statements as supporting talking points.

What the hell are you talking about? Sars-cov-2 *IS* the current pandemic virus. It causes the disease known as Covid-19. You follow? You're thinking of Sars-cov-1, colloquially known as just "SARS" which was a briefly-lived virus in 2004. Technically it does still exist, but almost nobody gets it. "SARS" was much more deadly than Covid-19, but much less contagious. So they kind of have an inverted relationship.

The NIH admitted they were funding gain of function research in wuhan. *They* admitted it. How much more will it take for you to accept it's not some wacky right wing conspiracy theory? Gain of function is the process of manipulating a natural virus to make it more transmissible and more dangerous to humans, in an effort to develop more effective defenses against such viruses.

Their excuse is essentially "well, err, we didn't realize at the time that's what it was. And fauci didn't lie exactly, cause he didn't know at the time either! derp!". Like, are these people professionals? They apparently don't even *KNOW* what they're funding??

Keep blaming everything on republicans though, and all the mental gymnastics that entails. Rand Paul was totally right about this, get over it.

[Horza]

What the hell are you talking about? Sars-cov-2 *IS* the current pandemic virus. It causes the disease known as Covid-19. You follow? You're thinking of Sars-cov-1, colloquially known as just "SARS" which was a briefly-lived virus in 2004. Technically it does still exist, but almost nobody gets it. "SARS" was much more deadly than Covid-19, but much less contagious. So they kind of have an inverted relationship.

The NIH admitted they were funding gain of function research in wuhan. *They* admitted it. How much more will it take for you to accept it's not some wacky right wing conspiracy theory? Gain of function is the process of manipulating a natural virus to make it more transmissible and more dangerous to humans, in an effort to develop more effective defenses against such viruses.

Their excuse is essentially "well, err, we didn't realize at the time that's what it was. And fauci didn't lie exactly, cause he didn't know at the time either! derp!". Like, are these people professionals? They apparently don't even *KNOW* what they're funding??

Keep blaming everything on republicans though, and all the mental gymnastics that entails. Rand Paul was totally right about this, get over it.

The problem with a right wing echo chamber is that no serious scientist thinks Rand Paul is a credible expert on anything but his navel.

[Jibartik]

yeah but he did catch facui in a lie. And a big effing lie at that.

This is the reason things are not working, all the people in power think lying is how to make people trust them.

Its not the trumpers fault, its the leaders that cant figure out how to make people trust them.

[Elizondo]

The problem with a right wing echo chamber is that no serious scientist thinks Rand Paul is a credible expert on anything but his navel.

Fauci totally lied tho

[Whale biologist]

yeah but he did catch facui in a lie. And a big effing lie at that.

This is the reason things are not working, all the people in power think lying is how to make people trust them.

Its not the trumpers fault, its the leaders that cant figure out how to make people trust them.

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. :)

It sounds like "China!" but with extra steps.

[Elizondo]

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. :)

Bro you tryin to spin like a top

[Ooloo]

The problem with a right wing echo chamber is that no serious scientist thinks Rand Paul is a credible expert on anything but his navel.

Ah, no "serious" scientists. "Serious" scientists are the ones who agree with you, I presume.

No true scottsman believes this!

The NIH *admitted it*. Dear lord. How wedded to your ideology are you?

[Whale biologist]

Bro you tryin to spin like a top

I dunno. I might tolerate libeling Fauci in a greater play against the CCP anyway.

Hope this helps.

[Ooloo]

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. :)

It sounds like "China!" but with extra steps.

Haha "bat virus spike". You mean spike protein?

Yes actually, they *were* putting spike protein from a novel bat coronavirus into mice, to ultimately study how it might affect humans. Nobody is saying this is some kind of Dr.Evil research, it does have an altruistic goal, which is to protect humans from deadly viruses. However gain of function research had been deemed too dangerous and risky to experiment with, precisely because of the potential risk of a pandemic. This is why fauci is lying about it, he is trying to cover his own ass like every other slimeball bureaucrat ever.

The whole convoluted argument boils down to retarded political tribalism. If you're left, fauci good. If you're right, fauci bad. However the right is correct on this, and the left is just kicking and screaming like an infant to deny it.

[Whale biologist]

Haha "bat virus spike". You mean spike protein?

Yes actually, they *were* putting spike protein from a novel bat coronavirus into mice, to ultimately study how it might affect humans. Nobody is saying this is some kind of Dr.Evil research, it does have an altruistic goal, which is to protect humans from deadly viruses. However gain of function research had been deemed too dangerous and risky to experiment with, precisely because of the potential risk of a pandemic. This is why fauci is lying about it, he is trying to cover his own ass like every other slimeball bureaucrat ever.

The whole convoluted argument boils down to retarded political tribalism. If you're left, fauci good. If you're right, fauci bad. However the right is correct on this, and the left is just kicking and screaming like an infant to deny it.

Well is/was it the same coronavirus we've been dealing with this past period? I would guess not.

FURTHER QUIBBLING: who decides it's too dangerous? Some sort of governing health body at the federal level?

[Jibartik]

They were putting bat virus spike into mouses and it wasn't from the covid family of coronaviruses anyway.

When your argument depends on the audience not knowing anything, that's called an appeal to ignorance. :)

It sounds like "China!" but with extra steps.

sorry it's 1934 and you are saying the nazi party is probably OK and all the rumors are fake.

[Jibartik]

Science is political now both sides.

parties went down the drain.

[Horza]

Ah, no "serious" scientists. "Serious" scientists are the ones who agree with you, I presume.

No true scottsman believes this!

The NIH *admitted it*. Dear lord. How wedded to your ideology are you?

The only scientist I trust is that Republican lady who was screaming about demon sperm at the hydroxychloroquine presser ✝️

[Jibartik]

"Any science that disagrees with science people I agree with tell me is science, is heresy."

https://i.imgur.com/OWOlvaD.png

[Botten]

What the hell are you talking about? Sars-cov-2 *IS* the current pandemic virus. It causes the disease known as Covid-19. You follow? You're thinking of Sars-cov-1, colloquially known as just "SARS" which was a briefly-lived virus in 2004. Technically it does still exist, but almost nobody gets it. "SARS" was much more deadly than Covid-19, but much less contagious. So they kind of have an inverted relationship.

The NIH admitted they were funding gain of function research in wuhan. *They* admitted it. How much more will it take for you to accept it's not some wacky right wing conspiracy theory? Gain of function is the process of manipulating a natural virus to make it more transmissible and more dangerous to humans, in an effort to develop more effective defenses against such viruses.

Their excuse is essentially "well, err, we didn't realize at the time that's what it was. And fauci didn't lie exactly, cause he didn't know at the time either! derp!". Like, are these people professionals? They apparently don't even *KNOW* what they're funding??

Keep blaming everything on republicans though, and all the mental gymnastics that entails. Rand Paul was totally right about this, get over it.

I did slip up with the 1 and 2 admittedly but that doesn't change that we have had other instances of Coronavirus in the past causing death to millions in the 1800s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

Others have been infected in the past if not months before the most recent Coronavirus was first reported.

I assuredly can blame Republicans on there absolutely horrible means of handling this Pandemic. Our nation was one of the worst to handle this pandemic, if not the worst.

There were so many times the previous Republican administration suppressed, hid or mismanaged it. Hell, Jared Kushner's team did some of worst heinous things:

"Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner's team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. "The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy."

And you conveniently left out the part the NIH reported:

NIH chief Francis Collins insists none of the bat viruses studied under this grant could “possibly have caused the COVID-19 pandemic.”

So yes I very much am blaming the party in charge of actually trying to do the worst job possible to manage the pandemic that killed over 600K Americans.

And not just the previous administration many Republicans who are anti-mask and more still are to blame.

[Whale biologist]

sorry it's 1934 and you are saying the nazi party is probably OK and all the rumors are fake.

https://i.imgur.com/lDcy5an.gif

[Tunabros]

738 pages of nonsense and mental illness

[unsunghero]

I did slip up with the 1 and 2 admittedly but that doesn't change that we have had other instances of Coronavirus in the past causing death to millions in the 1800s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

Others have been infected in the past if not months before the most recent Coronavirus was first reported.

I assuredly can blame Republicans on there absolutely horrible means of handling this Pandemic. Our nation was one of the worst to handle this pandemic, if not the worst.

There were so many times the previous Republican administration suppressed, hid or mismanaged it. Hell, Jared Kushner's team did some of worst heinous things:

"Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner's team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. "The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy."

And you conveniently left out the part the NIH reported:

NIH chief Francis Collins insists none of the bat viruses studied under this grant could “possibly have caused the COVID-19 pandemic.”

So yes I very much am blaming the party in charge of actually trying to do the worst job possible to manage the pandemic that killed over 600K Americans.

And not just the previous administration many Republicans who are anti-mask and more still are to blame.

Regardless of whether it was the origin of COVID, there are labs in developed countries who are tinkering with viruses not to make weapons but in an attempt to understand them better and to defend against them better

It is inevitable that occasionally due to accident or unforeseen circumstances these will end up getting out

We had the Chernobyl disaster and the entire world took notice and took steps to prevent another one. Then Fukushima happened anyway

[Elizondo]

I dunno. I might tolerate libeling Fauci in a greater play against the CCP anyway.

Hope this helps.

Dude why you actin da fool

Fauci totally lied

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/lDcy5an.gif

Im angry at ccp :mad:

[Knowledge]

Cause politics sure as hell don't give a shit about you.

9SmVVLYgArk

Lead actor Harris consults with fellow child actors.

ALL of Washington are actors that why Fauci is above the law he gave a blood oath to not reveal his cult.

[Elizondo]

I did slip up with the 1 and 2 admittedly but that doesn't change that we have had other instances of Coronavirus in the past causing death to millions in the 1800s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

Others have been infected in the past if not months before the most recent Coronavirus was first reported.

I assuredly can blame Republicans on there absolutely horrible means of handling this Pandemic. Our nation was one of the worst to handle this pandemic, if not the worst.

There were so many times the previous Republican administration suppressed, hid or mismanaged it. Hell, Jared Kushner's team did some of worst heinous things:

"Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner's team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. "The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy."

And you conveniently left out the part the NIH reported:

NIH chief Francis Collins insists none of the bat viruses studied under this grant could “possibly have caused the COVID-19 pandemic.”

So yes I very much am blaming the party in charge of actually trying to do the worst job possible to manage the pandemic that killed over 600K Americans.

And not just the previous administration many Republicans who are anti-mask and more still are to blame.

More people have died under Old Dude than Orange Dude from the chinaflu

You just accusing peeps of bad things cuz you low IQ

[Jibartik]

yeah but you see, that is the guy who isnt the presidents fault somehow.

[Elizondo]

yeah but you see, that is the guy who isnt the presidents fault somehow.

Well it's just stupid cuz these bozos see everything with CNN goggles on

You got Robot Chicken and Moby Dick Dr tap dancin and jugglin bowlin pins when Fauci was runnin the show under both prez and lyin to everyone the whole time

Then you got bergerbot kickin and screamin about horse pasta cuz his posts are brought to you by Pfizer

Fauci dude lied and was a total arrogant douche about it. Why try to defend him?

[Knowledge]

They don't give a shit about right and wrong dude they just wanna win the war.

[Jibartik]

It's pretty basic, when the leadership is like, retarded sounding and changes their position on things constantly, the people freak out.

This is all perfect example of leadership that is just totally collapsed, across the board. Nobody can trust anyone because even if you are in leadership they're all super polarized, I mean like, can you say if you were a conservative religious fellow that AoC would consider your feelings? Hell no, and visa versa for the other side.

So really it's not any one persons fault. Not even one leaders. It's collectively everyone who is like Horza's fault for engaging in and encouraging this behavior.

:o

[Knowledge]

This is the End. Beautiful friend, the End.

This is the End. My only friend. The End.

The killer awoke before dawn
He put his boots on
And then he walked on down the hall

[Gatordash]

The ratings aren't looking good for President Biden's CNN Town Hall meeting last night. Here are the early numbers on cable news views last night:

Biden town hall: 1.20 million viewers
Fox News: 2.83 million viewers (Tucker + first half of Hannity)

So 1.6 million more people watched Fox News' normal lineup than President Biden trying to address the American public on CNN. Apparently CNN wasn't even 2nd place, MSNBC's Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow got higher numbers than Biden. I don't think he's turning around his polling numbers or getting more Americans on board with his Build Back Better plan with that kind of interest. Seems like people have kinda decided he sucks at this point.

[Jibartik]

*holds fists in ski pose

[Whale biologist]

It's pretty basic, when the leadership is like, retarded sounding and changes their position on things constantly, the people freak out.

This is all perfect example of leadership that is just totally collapsed, across the board. Nobody can trust anyone because even if you are in leadership they're all super polarized, I mean like, can you say if you were a conservative religious fellow that AoC would consider your feelings? Hell no, and visa versa for the other side.

So really it's not any one persons fault. Not even one leaders. It's collectively everyone who is like Horza's fault for engaging in and encouraging this behavior.

:o

I think it's the resurrección of materialist ideology by the ghasts of this rabble. :eek:

[starkind]

You got alot of ppl like me in this world even tho I got a check from the US Treasury and it gets spent on McDonald's far too often I kinda don't believe in government anymore and for the sake of my nephews and nieces grandchildren and you guys I kinda want to see everything completely defunded and dismantled.

I'll be damned if I lift a finger to do it or actively tell anyone to throw their lives away to do it.

Just look after your own and vote to let individual people not companies, corporations, brands, or governments grow and sell their own food and goods.

[Horza]

yeah but you see, that is the guy who isnt the presidents fault somehow.

Are you paste eaters ever going to get over the fact that your rape daddy lost to Sleepy Joe?

[Knowledge]

Donald Trump lives in his head rent-free

[Gatordash]

Lol at some of these town hall quotes from last night.

Cooper: “Do you have plans to visit the southern border?”

Biden: “I’ve been there before and I haven’t — I mean, I know it well. I guess I should go down. But the whole point of it is I haven’t had a whole hell of a lot of time to get down."

Overall, the U.S. is on pace to eclipse 2.4 million migrants entering the country illegally this year, which is more than the population of Houston, America’s fourth most populous city.

[Elizondo]

Are you paste eaters ever going to get over the fact that your rape daddy lost to Sleepy Joe?

This post has been brought to you by Pfizer

[starkind]

You got alot of ppl like me in this world even tho I got a check from the US Treasury and it gets spent on McDonald's far too often I kinda don't believe in government anymore and for the sake of my nephews and nieces grandchildren and you guys I kinda want to see everything completely defunded and dismantled.

I'll be damned if I lift a finger to do it or actively tell anyone to throw their lives away to do it.

Just look after your own and vote to let individual people not companies, corporations, brands, or governments grow and sell their own food and goods.

Anyway this is what is going to kill us and people like me are more common and vote party line because of how we feel about which candidates are least annoying. And this level of failure and apathy is what everyone is up against who wants to usurp the two party system and move our country in a freerer more independent direction.

Were probably doomed if I'm the common denomination.

[Knowledge]

People try that and they'll start nuking the population. usurp the two party system hahahaha

[starkind]

People try that and they'll start nuking the population. usurp the two party system hahahaha

A fat lazy broke dick American can dream.

[Whale biologist]

People try that and they'll start nuking the population. usurp the two party system hahahaha

I think there was a plan for that like a military operation in case of Communism.

But it might be from a movie. :p

[Horza]

Don't worry, the next migrant caravan won't arrive until the midterms get closer and Republicans realize how unpopular their policies are.

[JurisDictum]

Texas schools are being told to teach ‘opposing views’ of the Holocaust. Why? (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-curriculum-schools-hb-3979)

Texas school district’s ban on long hair for boys prompts lawsuit (https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2021/10/22/texas-school-district-s-ban-on-long-hair-for-boys-prompts-lawsuit)

Clearly the left has lost its mind with culture war issues like climate, college, and family support.

[starkind]

Texas schools are being told to teach ‘opposing views’ of the Holocaust. Why? (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-curriculum-schools-hb-3979)

Texas school district’s ban on long hair for boys prompts lawsuit (https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2021/10/22/texas-school-district-s-ban-on-long-hair-for-boys-prompts-lawsuit)

Clearly the left has lost its mind with culture war issues like climate, college, and family support.

How can the schools enforce this? Oh wait. It's backed up by government force and coercion.

[JurisDictum]

Fascism revolves around a victim complex. The movements come up with reasons why the majority group in the country is being victimized by evil minorities.

There is about 25-30% of any given population that basically have fascist psychologies. Just give them that chance and they will enthusiastically victimize others -- rationalizing that they are protecting themselves.

A few ways to spot a fascist:

They suck up to those in power and look for "safe" scapegoats. You guys seen this asshole in every EQ guild. Kissing ass to the leader and the officers, piling on to someone who screwed up at every opportunity.

They tend to view the world as some zero-sum game for survival.

Strong on the believe there is something inherently good about conformity.

I've seen this personality on the left. There the assholes trying to round up the rednecks from the jan 6 riot. No they won't criticize wallstreet, yes they will punch down on poor hogs.

I just tend to think its not as dangerous.

But either way, the job of American elites as I see it, is to make sure these kinds of people aren't in power. The problem is they want to hang on to way things are -- they just spent 30 years getting it this rigged and they want to keep it that way.

Fascists are natural allies to those trying to suppress a population like this.

[unsunghero]

Fascism revolves around a victim complex

“Because I choose not to ever be a victim. I cannot choose whether I’m victimized, but I have the ability to say ‘I’ll never be a victim’”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnokM2fzYPY

[Jibartik]

Fascism revolves around a victim complex.

Wait. Can we unpack this with regards to leftist politics.

[JurisDictum]

Wait. Can we unpack this with regards to leftist politics.

I'm not talking about actual external structure here. It's more of a personality type to watch out for. Because they will kill when the time comes.

Plenty of fascists are in the DNC.

Basically those that want to shut down information on the internet. Those that want to completely ostracize anyone rightwing from society. Some have weird ideas that you basically shouldn't interact with white men. They view CNN and MSNBC as some kind of objective truth dispensers.

[Whale biologist]

“Because I choose not to ever be a victim. I cannot choose whether I’m victimized, but I have the ability to say ‘I’ll never be a victim’”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnokM2fzYPY

What if I get shot?

[Jibartik]

I'm not talking about actual external structure here. It's more of a personality type to watch out for. Because they will kill when the time comes.

Plenty of fascists are in the DNC

all of the DNC's platform is based on victimhood. We can say that the conservatives are victims but lets be realistic the policy they care about gives zero f's if you are a victim and expects you to deal with it.

So the difference is, someone who whines (conservatives), vs someone who actually tries to use being a victim to govern (democrats).

That leads me to believe that based on your theory the ONLY fascists are the DNC :o

[JurisDictum]

What if I get shot?

Then it's your fault, didn't you listen to the damn video?

[Whale biologist]

Then it's your fault, didn't you listen to the damn video?

No I didn't :)

[Jibartik]

See the very idea that getting shot is your fault is repulsive to you two lol

The left leaning (from 0.0000001% left) are the victim types I cant stress this enough I am one of them too.

But unsung literally would blame himself if he got shot while we made up a scenario we might be victims after being hypothetically shot for no reason after just looking at a video!

:p

[unsunghero]

Then it's your fault, didn't you listen to the damn video?

I like the vid, but it definitely can’t be taken literally

With the getting shot, there could still be personal safety/situational awareness questions

A tougher question would have been something like “what if a meteor falls on my head?”

[Botten]

More people have died under Old Dude than Orange Dude from the chinaflu

You just accusing peeps of bad things cuz you low IQ

"you are;" again the irony :rolleyes:

Do you stay a 'Pureblood' by inbreeding? Did you see what I did there?

Pureblood ... Purity Blood... did the aryan race reference just escape you when Bannon and that teen Harry Potter fangirl from TikTok made up your little cult?

I get it, you want to pump out funny one liner's like Horza but with conservative tropes; except your trigger quotes fall flat when done wrong.

You are kinda like that Troll Trumper who tried to get a rise out of liberals by saying what is there to hate about Trump? Your 401K plan is the best it has ever been. Only to have the DOW crash to a lower number than Obama left the economy to Trump and 401K plans bled trillions.

[Jibartik]

“what if a meteor falls on my head?”

Tromps fault.

[Jibartik]

"you are;" again the irony :rolleyes:

Do you stay a 'Pureblood' by inbreeding? Did you see what I did there?

Pureblood ... Purity Blood... did the aryan race reference just escape you when Bannon and that teen Harry Potter fangirl from TikTok made up your little cult?

I get it, you want to pump out funny one liner's like Horza but with conservative tropes; except your trigger quotes fall flat when done wrong.

You are kinda like that Troll Trumper who tried to get a rise out of liberals by saying what is there to hate about Trump? Your 401K plan is the best it has ever been. Only to have the DOW crash to a lower number than Obama left the economy to Trump and 401K plans bled trillions.

tromp tromp tromp!

[Whale biologist]

A tougher question would have been something like “what if a meteor falls on my head?”

Victim implies a victor(conqueror).

[unsunghero]

Speaking of getting shot, this just happened in my state

It’s a good reminder of the fallacy of believing that a girl with a gun is safe from assault or rape

It’s a reverse in this vid. It appears a girl (or a very small guy) is the thief and a fucking champion is the aggressor. But she is easily disarmed before she could use the gun. Had the roles been reversed now the gun can be used on her. Due to the tight quarters and surprise of the attack, maybe this is the only way this could have gone though, I don’t want to armchair quarterback too much

If you’re going to carry a gun, be confident in its fast, effective use

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5oKIDYtDE

[Botten]

tromp tromp tromp!

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-2000w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_26/2054666/170628-trump-time-frame-ed-1044a.jpg

Remember when Trump was so shameful he paid for a fake Time magazine "Person of the Year" portrait using charity funds?

Some one to idol, am I right? I wonder if there are any GOP that still idol Bush for his WMD and war claims. Meh give it another decade and they will soon shun Trump too. Oops! To late many already do!

[JurisDictum]

We got a lot of amature sport fighters these days that seem to think they can take out your run of the mill mob goon or prison buba. Hopefully they don't have to find out the hard way that they really have very little experience in RL situations.

[Jibartik]

Victim implies a victor(conqueror).

Colonialists owe reparations!

:o

[unsunghero]

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-2000w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_26/2054666/170628-trump-time-frame-ed-1044a.jpg

Remember when Trump was so shameful he paid for a fake Time magazine "Person of the Year" portrait using charity funds?

Some one to idol, am I right? I wonder if there are any GOP that still idol Bush for his WMD and war claims. Meh give it another decade and they will soon shun Trump too. Oops! To late many already do!

This magazine?

Golly, I can’t imagine why he didn’t get it

[Jibartik]

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-2000w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_26/2054666/170628-trump-time-frame-ed-1044a.jpg

Remember when Trump was so shameful he paid for a fake Time magazine "Person of the Year" portrait using charity funds?

Some one to idol, am I right?

yea,

https://i.imgur.com/wqBPkka.png

[unsunghero]

We got a lot of amature sport fighters these days that seem to think they can take out your run of the mill mob goon or prison buba. Hopefully they don't have to find out the hard way that they really have very little experience in RL situations.

I have heaps of confidence in my strat: I bet I can run faster scared than you can mad

[Jibartik]

I hear what you are saying but seriously you cant say that borders are oppressive and then try to argue that you are not using victimhood as a divining rod.

Im just making the observation that 100% of liberal governance, comes from victimhood (try to show me one time it says to own up and just deal with your lot in life by working harder). You cant say the same thing about conservatism.

[unsunghero]

No both sides definitely do it. It’s effective

There’s something about it that’s provocative. Makes you want to click because you disagree/hate it. And clicks are money

[JurisDictum]

If you look at what Stalin did in the old Soviet union -- its a good example of fascism that also considered leftwing by most people.

Example of early Stalin writing:https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1901/11/x01.htm

The working class is not the only class that is groaning under the yoke of the tsarist regime. The heavy fist of the autocracy is also crushing other social classes. Groaning under the yoke are the Russian peasants, wasted from constant starvation, impoverished by the unbearable burden of taxation and thrown to the mercy of the grasping bourgeois traders and the "noble" landlords. Groaning under the yoke are the little people in the towns, the minor employees in government and private offices, the minor officials—in general, that numerous lower class of the urban population whose existence is as insecure as that of the working class, and which has every reason to be discontented with its social conditions. Groaning under the yoke is that section of the petty bourgeoisie and even of the middle bourgeoisie which cannot resign itself to the tsar's knout and lash; this applies especially to the educated section of the bourgeoisie, the so-called representatives of the liberal professions (teachers, physicians, lawyers, university and high-school students). Groaning under the yoke are the oppressed nations and religious communities in Russia, including the Poles, who are being driven from their native land and whose most sacred sentiments are being outraged, and the Finns, whose rights and liberties, granted by history, the autocracy is arrogantly trampling underfoot. Groaning under the yoke are the eternally persecuted and humiliated Jews who lack even the miserably few rights enjoyed by other Russian subjects —the right to live in any part of the country they choose, the right to attend school, the right to be employed in government service, and so forth. Groaning are the Georgians, Armenians, and other nations who are deprived of the right to have their own schools and be employed in government offices, and are compelled to submit to the shameful and oppressive policy of Russi-fication so zealously pursued by the autocracy. Groaning are the many millions of Russian non-conformists who wish to believe and worship in accordance with the dictates of their conscience and not with the wishes of the orthodox priests. Groaning are . . . but it is impossible to enumerate all the oppressed, all who are persecuted by the Russian autocracy. They are so numerous that if they were all aware of this, and were aware who their common enemy is, the despotic regime in Russia would not exist another day. Unfortunately, the Russian peasantry is still downtrodden by agelong slavery, poverty and ignorance; it is only just awakening, it does not yet know who its enemy is. The oppressed nations in Russia cannot even dream of liberating themselves by their own efforts so long as they are opposed not only by the Russian government, but even by the Russian people, who have not yet realised that their common enemy is the autocracy. There remain the working class, the little people among the urban population, and the educated section of the bourgeoisie.

IDK though. Sounds a bit like tucker carlson with a few marxist words sprinkled in. He was like 20 when he wrote that.

[unsunghero]

I think it’s an error to assume that stoicism in the face of victimization helps on a quantifiable level in the long run

If someone was being victimized by a group of people, and they stay quiet and stoic, a part of the victimizers might respect that and stop. But we all know the majority wouldn’t. They would see it as invitation to go harder and/or forever

The intangible benefit of building mental resilience may not at all change the situational stressor

[JurisDictum]

I wish more leftwing people would openly says its ok to just vote for what you want and what you think is a good idea. It doesn't have to be some story about how horrible group x has it. Even though it is true sometimes, it sounds polemic and over-the-top. You end up just preaching to the choir.

I think single payer healthcare is a good idea that would make the country better. I know lots of people that want it. That's good enough reason right there. You don't have to buy into this talk about rights etc.

[unsunghero]

I remember this crazy video of a bar fight that spilled outside into the street

Two dudes squaring off, one puts his hands behind his back. So the other dude punches him, in the face. Dude still has his hands behind bis back, takes it. Dude punches him again in the face. Still the other dudes hands are behind his back, takes the next one, says nothing

Guy who threw two punches stops, stands there for a moment, then walks away. Maybe he was scared that two punches seemed to not do shit to the other guy. Or maybe he respected the other guy just for not retaliating or defending. We’ll never know the reason

But what I do know is that is NOT how that scenario would normally play out. The other guy is going to keep punching. Eventually you gotta put your hands up and stick up for yourself

[Jibartik]

I wish more leftwing people would openly says its ok to just vote for what you want and what you think is a good idea. It doesn't have to be some story about how horrible group x has it. Even though it is true sometimes, it sounds polemic and over-the-top. You end up just preaching to the choir.

I think single payer healthcare is a good idea that would make the country better. I know lots of people that want it. That's good enough reason right there. You don't have to buy into this talk about rights etc.

I had to register as a republican because I wanted to get a puppy instead of a rescue.

:p

[Whale biologist]

I had to register as a republican because I wanted to get a puppy instead of a rescue.

:p

My city banned pet stores from selling kits and pups. :p

[Knowledge]

White House further postpones disclosure of JFK assassination documents, citing Covid

Virus won't let them unseal the CIA murdering JFK.

Horse manure stinks, even if you add sugar and chocolate.

[Knowledge]

That's one thing I see both you Democrats and Republicans' leaders do very well - Lie about JFK and 9/11

Who ya leaders workin' for?

Usurp the two-party system so we can have seven Illuminati political parties competing for glory, yet all together hiding truth and justice.

[starkind]

Speaking of getting shot, this just happened in my state

It’s a good reminder of the fallacy of believing that a girl with a gun is safe from assault or rape

It’s a reverse in this vid. It appears a girl (or a very small guy) is the thief and a fucking champion is the aggressor. But she is easily disarmed before she could use the gun. Had the roles been reversed now the gun can be used on her. Due to the tight quarters and surprise of the attack, maybe this is the only way this could have gone though, I don’t want to armchair quarterback too much

If you’re going to carry a gun, be confident in its fast, effective use

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5oKIDYtDE

Holding ur gun nexto someones arm is pretty dumb.

Why don't people get trained to draw it and use it?

We live in a clown world honk honk. I guess we can be greatful that robber is a complete idiot.

As far as self defense most of any kind of real assaults are all people u know and trust. Or in the above case even an abusive relationship.

Step #1 don't trust anyone. Step2 is don't rely on anyone else to protect you. Step #3 you're still not safe.

[Knowledge]

Killing anyone with your gun but yourself is pretty dumb.

[starkind]

Killing anyone with your gun but yourself is pretty dumb.

God says killing is bad.

The Mormons told me it's sometimes necessary though. And that heretics and heathens who don't tithe and hurt other people don't count.

[Knowledge]

We're gonna die we have much worse things to worry about than politics.

[Ooloo]

Remember when jimmy fallon got in deep trouble for playfully tussling trump's hair in that interview, and the left started screeching that jimmy was "humanizing" trump? Like, uh, the dude IS a human. These looniest among them would say the same thing about literally any conservative right now.

Stop HUMANIZING human beings! Don't you know we have to view them as vermin?? No, no, there's nothing nazi-like about my ideology at all! Pinky swear!

Stop HUMANIZING my 8 month old unborn child, he's not a human, he's a disgusting fetus fit for slaughter so as not to inconvenience my life.

[Jibartik]

My city banned pet stores from selling kits and pups. :p

I am not against that!

The problem I have is when someone thinks it's a teachable moment when they find out you didn't adopt.

Same should go for kids. Could you people start shaming parents for not adopting when they are glowing from a new birth?

[Horza]

Remember when jimmy fallon got in deep trouble for playfully tussling trump's hair in that interview, and the left started screeching that jimmy was "humanizing" trump? Like, uh, the dude IS a human. These looniest among them would say the same thing about literally any conservative right now.

Stop HUMANIZING human beings! Don't you know we have to view them as vermin?? No, no, there's nothing nazi-like about my ideology at all! Pinky swear!

Stop HUMANIZING my 8 month old unborn child, he's not a human, he's a disgusting fetus fit for slaughter so as not to inconvenience my life.

Sorry your rape daddy lost so badly to Sleepy Joe, bud.

[Ooloo]

Sorry your rape daddy lost so badly to Sleepy Joe, bud.

Another cunning non-sequitur from Horza. Nicely done.

[Horza]

Imagine giving up your little remaining dignity for this creep.

https://i.imgur.com/Tkl7rwT.gif

[Jibartik]

You might take this stuff more seriously than the rest of us if what gives you dignity is which politician you believe in.

[Horza]

I really doubt any of us here take Trump even half as seriously as you do, Jib.

[Jibartik]

lol how could you be that stupid?

[Jibartik]

White House delays release of JFK assassination files "to protect against identifiable harm"

This is why nobody trusts the goverment.

[TheBardo]

Remember when jimmy fallon got in deep trouble for playfully tussling trump's hair in that interview, and the left started screeching that jimmy was "humanizing" trump? Like, uh, the dude IS a human. These looniest among them would say the same thing about literally any conservative right now.

Stop HUMANIZING human beings! Don't you know we have to view them as vermin?? No, no, there's nothing nazi-like about my ideology at all! Pinky swear!

Stop HUMANIZING my 8 month old unborn child, he's not a human, he's a disgusting fetus fit for slaughter so as not to inconvenience my life.

all this bizare screeching only exists in your own brain

[Jibartik]

No that was true it was like how dare he humanize that man!

Lol you people are insane you all sound like old women in tents in 1980s praising God.

"When Trump made a joke about fearing what people might do to his hamburgers if they know it's him before he orders, Fallon leaned back in his chair and let out a disproportionately large laugh relative to the funniness of the joke. Was it really that funny? No, it was not."

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Donald-Trump-Jimmy-Fallon-hair-messed-up-video-9227056.php

lol see, it always has to do with the left being upset there is such thing as humor. They are robots. that want to cut off their genitalia so they can have no feelings and live in a universe without entropy.

[TheBardo]

No that was true it was like how dare he humanize that man!

Lol you people are insane you all sound like old women in tents in 1980s praising God.



lol see, it always has to do with the left being upset there is such thing as humor. They are robots. that want to cut off their genitalia so they can have no feelings and live in a universe without entropy.

borderline gibberish

[unsunghero]

all this bizare screeching only exists in your own brain

I dunno man, I personally hadn’t heard of that incident with Jimmy Fallon so I looked it up on Google

Story seems to check out: “Jimmy Fallon is opening up about the personal anguish he felt following the backlash to his now-infamous hair mussing appearance with Donald Trump.

The host of “The Tonight Show” tells The Hollywood Reporter he “made a mistake” and apologized “if I made anyone mad.” He adds that he “would do it differently” looking back on the Sept. 15, 2016 episode”

Source: https://apnews.com/article/d599adbc29d54df1b2a463d7ac3737f7

[Jibartik]

borderline gibberish

the vast majority of that post is quoted journalism.

[TheBardo]

Stop HUMANIZING human beings! Don't you know we have to view them as vermin?? No, no, there's nothing nazi-like about my ideology at all! Pinky swear!

Stop HUMANIZING my 8 month old unborn child, he's not a human, he's a disgusting fetus fit for slaughter so as not to inconvenience my life.

This is bizarre screeching that exists only in ooloos brain.

[TheBardo]

lol see, it always has to do with the left being upset there is such thing as humor. They are robots. that want to cut off their genitalia so they can have no feelings and live in a universe without entropy.

Apologies, this isn’t borderline gibberish; it’s the insane rantings of a mad man.

[Jibartik]

that's better.

[Horza]

old man yells at cloud's genitals

[Knowledge]

8 dollar gas in Commiefornia

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out, Maryland.

[Knowledge]

Nice forum name you must be buddy buddy with the admins.

[Penish]

Jibartik I'll continue outperforming you in every single way while you brigade a thousand half-men against me, and defend your right to call me a faggot on TV with a heavy lisp and tears in your eyes. Upper lip quivering as you stand shoulder to shoulder with millions. Pathetically hiding your true feelings, insisting it's not like you have any sort of problem with faggots you just like the word. And how are you supposed to keep up with what they are called anyway, not like you're a faggot yourself after all.

You are a disgrace. A coward who cannot admit his true feelings even to himself. This is why your heart hurts, Jib. Humiliation is normally considered painful.

Hope this motherfuckin helps you little pissants who can't even come correct. Who have to lie to yourselves, tell yourselves trans ppl are mentally ill and therefore that's why you have to be ruthlessly nasty with them -- err I mean wait, that doesn't add up ???? you're still a piece of shit psycho ??? so what in the fuck are you even talking about as you engage with the same bullshit over and over for years ???

Must be straight up retarded if there's any confusion left in that walnut. Just accept that you're a Nazi already, but too fagtarded cuck'd by culture to manifest it in racism or cultural imperialism that respects your ancestors or anything else remotely compelling. Little tiny atomized half men fighting exactly whom they are told and no more. The only dick chopped off is yours.

In before some sort of comical retard indignation that I called bladeychop a slur. Trash humans.

meltdown thread is ze other way bro

[Ooloo]

This thread has become like that boat ride scene in willy wonka

[Penish]

i just think its awful that IK sits here day after day defending his personal life choices to a bunch of handis, dudes got such a big brain he could be doing literally anything else

[Whale biologist]

This thread has become like that boat ride scene in willy wonka

Bostock proteccs f* and tran alike.

God bless that federalist ghoul Neil Gorsuch!

[starkind]

politics are whats an appropriate bad word we can use today to describe politics?

[Jibartik]

yikes dude. I see you're traveling to Hell despite my attempts at outreach. that makes a lack of excuses for poor character. bummer.

Yeah, trans people have blunted their feelings. Whereas fascists are super in touch with them. As they defend their right to be vicious using linguistic technicalities, they display the finer sense of empathy. No Saturday Morning Cartoons inside that head. :rolleyes:

Also it's totally cool to equate trans people with blade chop chop surgical wound sliceeee ugly gash blood. Not hate speech at all! And I suck, I'm super sensitive for taking this "wrongly". And you aren't influenced by the television whatsoever. And you definitely aren't exploding with nonsense in a completely misbegotten sense of victimhood. Yeah. I am the one here playing the victim, by quoting you. Only I can play the victim by definition, like they say on the TV -- which you do not watch. Right.

Now put away the hate-adjacent jibberish. You've crossed over. You're just spewing the latest slurs now. Bladey chop. So say what you mean with me, Jibby: I'm hurting. My soul is empty. This ennui has taken everything from me. I know you feel the same and like me cannot love. Can we then find meaning in hatred? Fuck faggots. Make a spectacle of their suffering for me. Let's find out. We can all be victims.

yikes dude. I see you're traveling to Hell despite my attempts at outreach. that makes a lack of excuses for poor character. bummer.

textbook narcissism:

https://i.imgur.com/EQssFBD.png

[fuck_faggots_all_day]

textbook narcissism:

https://i.imgur.com/EQssFBD.png

nothing in there. sweet!

[Horza]

Commiefornia

Trump lost, idiot.

[alphys]

How can you lose a fake election?

[Jibartik]

Trump lost, idiot.

And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.

:o

[Horza]

I can't even pretend to know what it's like to see a failed politician as some kind of mythological figure.

[alphys]

Obama

[Jibartik]

Thanks aphid.

[Ooloo]

I can't even pretend to know what it's like to see a failed politician as some kind of mythological figure.

Biden is objectively worse than trump by literally every relevant metric. Your trump hate boner is like pathological at this point, he's not president anymore. Let go. Seek therapy.

[Elizondo]

I can't even pretend to know what it's like to see a failed politician as some kind of mythological figure.

16066

[Jibartik]

Im pretty sure all signs in Horza's mind point to trump so of anyone here, Horza you're the first person you should ask what it's like.

[JurisDictum]

I got to get a stack of those stickers.

[Horza]

Horza you're one sick mother,

[JurisDictum]

Twitter and Square CEO Jack Dorsey says 'hyperinflation' will happen soon in the U.S. and the world (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/23/twitter-and-square-ceo-jack-dorsey-says-hyperinflation-will-happen-soon-in-the-us-and-the-world.html)

Wow, he never really weighed in on stuff like this publically before...I wonder what would have motivated him.

Democrats move to finalize new ‘billionaire’ tax proposal, targeting 700 wealthiest Americans as key source of revenue for spending plan (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-move-to-finalize-new-e2-80-98billionaire-e2-80-99-tax-plan-targeting-700-wealthiest-americans-as-key-source-of-revenue-for-spending-plan/ar-AAPQhXi)

Political Science already shows that in the long run in modern States, the people paying off poor people eventually take over the people paying the ultra rich. At some point, they're just too damn expensive. You really don't need to give people all that much to get their vote, considering they are used to nothing.

[Whale biologist]

Biden is objectively worse than trump by literally every relevant metric. Your trump hate boner is like pathological at this point, he's not president anymore. Let go. Seek therapy.

Is he worse on free trade

[JurisDictum]

No one ever gives Biden credit on the right for deporting more people than Trump and locking down the boarder.

[Whale biologist]

No one ever gives Biden credit on the right for deporting more people than Trump and locking down the boarder.

Lol

[Ooloo]

Is he worse on free trade

Yes, because free trade hurts american workers and incentivizes companies to move jobs over seas, where labor costs are much lower. If you're the president of the united states, you're supposed to care about US citizens. It's a crazy idea I know.

"Free trade" is just another terrible idea with a happy-sounding name.

[Whale biologist]

Yes, because free trade hurts american workers

I see, you're stupid. Thanks.

[Ooloo]

I see, you're stupid. Thanks.

Great argument. Why don't you explain why "free trade" is good for US workers? Specifically middle class workers?

[Whale biologist]

Great argument. Why don't you explain why "free trade" is good for US workers? Specifically middle class workers?

7.287 trillion USD (1994)

21.43 trillion USD (2019)

[Horza]

7.287 trillion USD (1994)

21.43 trillion USD (2019)

Explain why we shouldn't go back to eighteenth century mercantilism, lib.

[Knowledge]

Let's go Brandon! Cornbidenho!

[JurisDictum]

Basically if everyone wasn't so browbeat into stupid idea about "not wanting a handout" -- wealth transfers can solve the free trade problem where resources are unevenly distributed.

16069

Manufacturing might be useful for security purposes. But from a global economy perspective it is the least important part of an advanced economy. So you outsource that to places with cheap labor.

[Jibartik]

7.287 trillion USD (1994)

21.43 trillion USD (2019)

Explain why we shouldn't go back to eighteenth century mercantilism, lib.

well, there's this:

https://i.imgur.com/dL6etg8.png

https://i.imgur.com/7dl0nI2.png

https://i.imgur.com/EK8gYLH.png

https://i.imgur.com/gNxNMNk.png

https://i.imgur.com/AjKB7Vb.png

https://i.imgur.com/qJq9OC8.png

:o

[Jibartik]

Manufacturing might be useful for security purposes. But from a global economy perspective it is the least important part of an advanced economy. So you outsource that to places with cheap labor.

this is what they said when they got rid of all Americans jobs in the 70's and 80s and started this decline.

I dont care if the stuff people manufacture goes directly into a furnace, as long as the lower middle and lower class have to go to the line to work 8 hours a day, the country is better off.

[Whale biologist]

this is what they said when they got rid of all Americans jobs in the 70's and 80s and started this decline.

I dont care if the stuff people manufacture goes directly into a furnace, as long as the lower middle and lower class have to go to the line to work 8 hours a day, the country is better off.

Anti-trade arguments always end up endorsing a self-sufficient economy. :rolleyes:

[Jibartik]

Idle hands are the devil's playthings.

[JurisDictum]

High paid manufacturing jobs were the result of labor bargaining power that mostly kicked off during the great depression. You can't just put it all back together again because the idiots that voted for Reagan finally realized their fucked.

It takes like 20 years to get a good semi-conductor plant going. Which seems to be the future of manufacturing.

[Jibartik]

It's a shame the majority of voters think your economic proposals are retarded, Jib.

this isnt my economic proposal this has been the economic propose of the left for the last 30 years, starkly against the conservative walmart corperate lobbiest oh my god---

Let me get this straight. the new liberal is,

- NO manufacturing at home where we have regulations (that we vote for)
- continue to move all manufacturing where there is no regulation and a language barrier as well as a military barrier for journalism
- Instead of bringing jobs back, now we just get free money to buy those things?

Someone please kill me in a revolution or a civil war or race war or a religious war anything please.

[Horza]

this isnt my economic proposal this has been the economic propose of the left for the last 30 years, starkly against the conservative walmart corperate lobbiest oh my god

Let me get this straight. the new liberal is, NO manufacturing at home where we have regulations (that we vote for) - continue to move all manufacturing where there is no regulation and a language barrier as well as a military barrier for journalism - and just instead of working you get free money to buy those things?

Someone please kill me in a revolution or a civil war or race war or a religious war anything please.

What left, thirty years ago the Democrats were center right at best. Now turn off Fox News, you're turning your brain to mush.

[JurisDictum]

It's not like people can't wait to get back to the factory. They just want the higher wage.

[Jibartik]

What left, thirty years ago the Democrats were center right at best. Now turn off Fox News, you're turning your brain to mush.

You couldn't back up that argument with any evidence to support it in a million years.

[Whale biologist]

this isnt my economic proposal this has been the economic propose of the left for the last 30 years, starkly against the conservative walmart corperate lobbiest oh my god---

Let me get this straight. the new liberal is,

- NO manufacturing at home where we have regulations (that we vote for)
- continue to move all manufacturing where there is no regulation and a language barrier as well as a military barrier for journalism
- Instead of bringing jobs back, now we just get free money to buy those things?

Someone please kill me in a revolution or a civil war or race war or a religious war anything please.

And that by becoming self-reliant and strong, a nation can achieve: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche)

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[Jibartik]

It's not like people can't wait to get back to the factory. They just want the higher wage.

Well theyre not going to get it because the factory is going to move to china.

But they wouldnt if they had to stay and they would upgrade their facilities and iphones would cost the SAME as they do now and so would overpriced john deer tractors. The environment would be better and there would be more happily employed people.

What do you think those people are going to do next? Get digree's? They did, in medicine, and are telling your schoolboards how to teach their kids.

[Horza]

Well theyre not going to get it because the factory is going to move to china.

But they wouldnt if they had to stay and they would upgrade their facilities and iphones would cost the SAME as they do now and so would overpriced john deer tractors. The environment would be better and there would be more happily employed people.

What do you think those people are going to do next? Get digree's? They did, in medicine, and are telling your schoolboards how to teach their kids.

Tucker Carlson viewing parties at your place?

https://i.imgur.com/IJ1LvQQ.jpg

[JurisDictum]

We have a service based economy. So there are a lot more people doing that.

But we still have jobs that are similar to factory work. Like warehouse work. It's just we pay them shit because now the workforce has given up all its leverage.

Basically trump bringing up this idea that manufacturing is gonna come back -- its a dumb idea for older people that remember the high pay and STILL don't accept that was because of unions and New Deal norms. They think there is some kind of thing within the manufacturing that made it high pay.

That was completely incidental. If we were nothing but a farm country -- we would be talking about the good old days of high paid field hands.

[Jibartik]

Tucker Carlson viewing parties at your place?

No Michael Moore you jack off.

[Jibartik]

We have a service based economy. So there are a lot more people doing that.

But we still have jobs that are similar to factory work. Like warehouse work. It's just we pay them shit because now the workforce has given up all its leverage.

Basically trump bringing up this idea that manufacturing is gonna come back -- its a dumb idea for older people that remember the high pay and STILL don't accept that was because of unions and New Deal norms. They think there is some kind of thing within the manufacturing that made it high pay.

That was completely incidental. If we were nothing but a farm country -- we would be talking about the good old days of high paid field hands.

none of you can talk about anything politilcal without reverting it into a trump policy discussion my god

try asking the democrats to look inward and dont be rediculous with this nonsense about how AI manufacturing will be cheaper than human manufacutring so we should get rid of human manufacutring

america was on track to being an itally or a sweeden or any other country that had pride in their country, their workers, and their products that they make

we built a country where you could have mass manufacturing AND a healthy workforce, reuglation, and it balanced out, for 50 years this ran strong

then we let people rape and pillage it and now here we are.

its a cultural thing, even if you werent hung up on a trump argument, you're thinking about the bottom dollar from a PRICE point perspective, youre not thinking about the rewards you get from a society that takes pride in the thigns they build

And if the nation tried to bring in manufacturing we could do it

Go watch the movie American Factory... the workers wanted to work, they just didnt want to compete with exploited workers in china, and because we think about the bottom line, they said, no factories then.

it's stupid, there is more to an economy than the bottom line!!!! it's a fishbowl and an ecosystem.

[Jibartik]

China, with pride of what its workers have built alone, have made it arguably the greatest powers on earth at the moment, if not in the near future.

All we have to do is make whoopie cushions in America and we'd have no qanon.

[Horza]

Why in the world would we want to be Italy? You GOP retards don't even make sense.

[Knowledge]

You DNC retards are dumber than a bag of hammers.

[Jibartik]

lol horza try not letting your xenophobia and racism blind you

[Elizondo]

lol bergerbot can't post anything but Fox News, Tucker Carlson and Orange Dude tears

So sad

[Horza]

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[Jibartik]

old boomer link

The guy that posts this ancient link is the one that calls us boomers and says non democrats are not funny lol

[Horza]

The guy that posts this ancient link is the one that calls us boomers and says non democrats are not funny lol

Sorry, but it's the only Italian song that I know about gibberish.

[Jibartik]

Your best argument is that you're racist?