the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Gravydoo II]

Can someone tell me one policy from the GOP that would make me want to vote for them?

Just one. What policy?

[Jibartik]

No but can you tell me one thing the democrats haven't lied to you about?

[Gravydoo II]

No but can you tell me one thing the democrats haven't lied to you about?

I asked you...

That doesnt make any sense? What have they lied to me about..?

[Gatordash]

Can someone tell me one policy from the GOP that would make me want to vote for them?

Just one. What policy?

Smaller government

[Elizondo]

Can someone tell me one policy from the GOP that would make me want to vote for them?

Just one. What policy?

I dunno man

if you want to live in a city like Chicago or Detroit, keep votin dem

[Jibartik]

I asked you...

That doesnt make any sense? What have they lied to me about..?

Tell me 1 thing that they've accomplished they campaigned on that isn't NAFTA

[Bhairava]

Apoliteia as no Concrete, Appreciable Results Possible through Rectifying, Political Action

(from “Ride the Tiger”)

[...] The "immortal principles" of 1789 and the rights of equality granted by absolute democracy to the atomized individual regardless of qualification or rank, and the irruption of the masses into the political structure, have effectively brought about what Walther Rathenau calls a "vertical invasion by barbarians from below," Consequently, the following observation of essayist Ortega y Gasset remains true: "The characteristic fact of the moment is that the mediocre soul, recognizing itself as mediocre, has the audacity to assert the right of mediocrity and impose it everywhere."

In the introduction I mentioned the few who by temperament and vocation still think today, in spite of everything, about the possibility of a rectifying, political action. Men among the Ruins was written with their ideological orientation in mind. But on the basis of experience we must admit the lack of the necessary premises to reach any concrete, appreciable results in a struggle of this kind. On the other hand, I have specified within these pages a human type of a different orientation, although spiritually related to those others who will fight on even in hopeless positions. After taking stock of the situation, this type can only feel disinterested and detached from everything that is "politics" today. His principle will become apoliteia, as it was called in ancient times.

It is important to emphasize that this principle refers essentially to the inner attitude. In the present political situation, in a climate of democracy and "socialism," the rules of the game are such that the man in question absolutely cannot take part in it. He recognizes, as I have said before, that ideas, motives, and goals worthy of the pledge of one's own true being do not exist today; there are no demands of which he can recognize any moral right and foundation outside that which they derive as mere facts on the empirical and profane plane. However, apoliteia, detachment, does not necessarily involve specific consequences in the field of pure and simple activity. I have already discussed the capacity to apply oneself to a given task for love of action in itself and in terms of an impersonal perfection. So, in principle, there is no reason to exclude the political realm itself as a particular case among others, since participating in it on these terms requires neither any objective value of a higher order, nor impulses that come from emotional and irrational layers of one's own being. But if this is how one dedicates oneself to political activity, clearly all that matters is the action and the impersonal perfection in acting for its own sake. Such political activity, for one who desires it, cannot present a higher value and dignity than dedicating oneself, in the same spirit, to quite different activities: absurd colonization projects, speculations on the stock market, science, and even - to give a drastic example - arms traffic or white slavery.

As conceived here, apoliteia creates no special presuppositions in the exterior field, not necessarily having a corollary in practical abstention. The truly detached man is not a professional and polemic outsider, nor conscientious objector, nor anarchist. Once it is established that life with its interactions does not constrain his being, he could even show the qualities of a soldier who, in order to act and accomplish a task, does not request in advance a transcendent justification and a quasi-theological assurance of the goodness of the cause. We can speak, in these cases, of a voluntary obligation that concerns the "persona," not the being, by which - even while one is involved - one remains isolated.

I have already said that the positive overcoming of nihilism lies precisely in the fact that lack of meaning does not paralyze the action of the "persona." In existential terms, the only exception would be the possibility of action being manipulated by some current political or social myth that regarded today's political life as serious, significant, and important. Apoliteia is the inner distance unassailable by this society and its "values"; it does not accept being bound by anything spiritual or moral. Once this is firm, the activities that in others would presuppose such bonds can be exercised in a different spirit. Moreover, there remains the sphere of activities that can be made to serve a higher-ordained and invisible end, as when I mentioned the two aspects of impersonality and what is to be gained from some forms of modern existence.

Turning to a particular point, one can only maintain an attitude of detachment when facing the confrontation of the two factions contending for world domination today: the democratic, capitalist West and the communist East. In fact, this struggle is devoid of any meaning from a spiritual point of view. The "West" is not an exponent of any higher ideal. Its very civilization, based on an essential negation of traditional values, presents the same destructions and nihilistic background that is evident in the Marxist and communist sphere, however different in form and degree. I will not dwell on this, given that I have outlined a total conception of the course of history, and dismissed any illusion about the final result of that struggle for world control, in Revolt Against the Modern World. Since the problem of values does not come into question, at most it presents a practical problem to the differentiated man. That certain margin of material freedom that the world of democracy still leaves for external activity to one who will not let himself be conditioned inwardly, would certainly be abolished in a communist regime. Simply in view of that, one may take a position against the soviet-communist system: not because one believes in some higher ideal that the rival system possesses, but for motives one might almost call basely physical.

On the other hand, one can keep in mind that for the differentiated man, having no interest in affirming and exposing himself in external life today, and his deeper life remaining invisible and out of reach, a communist system would not have the same fatal significance as for others; also an "underground front" could very well exist there. Taking sides in the present struggle for world hegemony is not a spiritual problem, but a banal, practical choice.

[Horza]

Pouring one out for your boy Nirgon.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/pcUEI9P.png

[Reiwa]

Apoliteia as no Concrete, Appreciable Results Possible through Rectifying, Political Action

(from “Ride the Tiger”)

[...] The "immortal principles" of 1789 and the rights of equality granted by absolute democracy to the atomized individual regardless of qualification or rank, and the irruption of the masses into the political structure, have effectively brought about what Walther Rathenau calls a "vertical invasion by barbarians from below," Consequently, the following observation of essayist Ortega y Gasset remains true: "The characteristic fact of the moment is that the mediocre soul, recognizing itself as mediocre, has the audacity to assert the right of mediocrity and impose it everywhere."

In the introduction I mentioned the few who by temperament and vocation still think today, in spite of everything, about the possibility of a rectifying, political action. Men among the Ruins was written with their ideological orientation in mind. But on the basis of experience we must admit the lack of the necessary premises to reach any concrete, appreciable results in a struggle of this kind. On the other hand, I have specified within these pages a human type of a different orientation, although spiritually related to those others who will fight on even in hopeless positions. After taking stock of the situation, this type can only feel disinterested and detached from everything that is "politics" today. His principle will become apoliteia, as it was called in ancient times.

It is important to emphasize that this principle refers essentially to the inner attitude. In the present political situation, in a climate of democracy and "socialism," the rules of the game are such that the man in question absolutely cannot take part in it. He recognizes, as I have said before, that ideas, motives, and goals worthy of the pledge of one's own true being do not exist today; there are no demands of which he can recognize any moral right and foundation outside that which they derive as mere facts on the empirical and profane plane. However, apoliteia, detachment, does not necessarily involve specific consequences in the field of pure and simple activity. I have already discussed the capacity to apply oneself to a given task for love of action in itself and in terms of an impersonal perfection. So, in principle, there is no reason to exclude the political realm itself as a particular case among others, since participating in it on these terms requires neither any objective value of a higher order, nor impulses that come from emotional and irrational layers of one's own being. But if this is how one dedicates oneself to political activity, clearly all that matters is the action and the impersonal perfection in acting for its own sake. Such political activity, for one who desires it, cannot present a higher value and dignity than dedicating oneself, in the same spirit, to quite different activities: absurd colonization projects, speculations on the stock market, science, and even - to give a drastic example - arms traffic or white slavery.

As conceived here, apoliteia creates no special presuppositions in the exterior field, not necessarily having a corollary in practical abstention. The truly detached man is not a professional and polemic outsider, nor conscientious objector, nor anarchist. Once it is established that life with its interactions does not constrain his being, he could even show the qualities of a soldier who, in order to act and accomplish a task, does not request in advance a transcendent justification and a quasi-theological assurance of the goodness of the cause. We can speak, in these cases, of a voluntary obligation that concerns the "persona," not the being, by which - even while one is involved - one remains isolated.

I have already said that the positive overcoming of nihilism lies precisely in the fact that lack of meaning does not paralyze the action of the "persona." In existential terms, the only exception would be the possibility of action being manipulated by some current political or social myth that regarded today's political life as serious, significant, and important. Apoliteia is the inner distance unassailable by this society and its "values"; it does not accept being bound by anything spiritual or moral. Once this is firm, the activities that in others would presuppose such bonds can be exercised in a different spirit. Moreover, there remains the sphere of activities that can be made to serve a higher-ordained and invisible end, as when I mentioned the two aspects of impersonality and what is to be gained from some forms of modern existence.

Turning to a particular point, one can only maintain an attitude of detachment when facing the confrontation of the two factions contending for world domination today: the democratic, capitalist West and the communist East. In fact, this struggle is devoid of any meaning from a spiritual point of view. The "West" is not an exponent of any higher ideal. Its very civilization, based on an essential negation of traditional values, presents the same destructions and nihilistic background that is evident in the Marxist and communist sphere, however different in form and degree. I will not dwell on this, given that I have outlined a total conception of the course of history, and dismissed any illusion about the final result of that struggle for world control, in Revolt Against the Modern World. Since the problem of values does not come into question, at most it presents a practical problem to the differentiated man. That certain margin of material freedom that the world of democracy still leaves for external activity to one who will not let himself be conditioned inwardly, would certainly be abolished in a communist regime. Simply in view of that, one may take a position against the soviet-communist system: not because one believes in some higher ideal that the rival system possesses, but for motives one might almost call basely physical.

On the other hand, one can keep in mind that for the differentiated man, having no interest in affirming and exposing himself in external life today, and his deeper life remaining invisible and out of reach, a communist system would not have the same fatal significance as for others; also an "underground front" could very well exist there. Taking sides in the present struggle for world hegemony is not a spiritual problem, but a banal, practical choice.

haha you have evola.

[Bhairava]

haha you have evola.


“The Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, "I think, therefore I am": Americans do not think, yet they are.”

[Ooloo]

Can someone tell me one policy from the GOP that would make me want to vote for them?

Just one. What policy?

Actually convicting and incarcerating violent criminals (armed robbery just became a misdemeanor in nyc in an attempt to *LESSEN CRIME, I'M NOT JOKING*).

Actually securing and defending the border.

Upholding basically everything that actually makes the country function.

[Reiwa]

“The Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, "I think, therefore I am": Americans do not think, yet they are.”

please self-quarantine and quietly vanish into the dust. :)

[Ooloo]

Yeah maybe if Americans just *thought* a little harder, like *I* do, they could be the world's envy like mighty DENMARK

[Jibartik]

Im trying to find it exactly but there is an old summarian story about enki where he made a deal to save the humans from total annihilation out of fear that we were becoming too powerful, by sprinkling something into the atmosphere to make them dumber.

4k year old chemtrails

[Mblake1981]

(from “Ride the Tiger”)

haha you have evola.

“The Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, "I think, therefore I am": Americans do not think, yet they are.”

please self-quarantine and quietly vanish into the dust. :)

2lvs2FzF64o

[Ooloo]

MSNBC right now, unironically: "Well ya know, in france right now they are really cracking down on the filthy unvaccinated like a bunch of psychotic nazi gestapo. Why aren't we doing that HERE?!"

Once you get vaccinated they still won't care btw. You'll just be transferred to the list of problematic "formerly vaccine-hesitant individuals", who need to be detained and questioned as to the origin of their vaccine hesitancy and if they have ever harbored any impure ("extremist") thoughts.

[robayon]

Once you get vaccinated they still won't care btw.Who does 'they' refer to in this hypothetical future

[Knowledge]

Who does 'they' refer to in this hypothetical future

Freemason Illuminati - same ones that created the virus and mutations.

[Ooloo]

Who does 'they' refer to in this hypothetical future

Anyone who currently views the unvaccinated as an untouchable caste, basically.

I mean, me personally, I always had nothing but seething contempt prior to this pandemic for anyone who didn't get their flu shot. How can they be so SELFISH?!?! Unlike me of course, who is super good and totally-not selfish ever.

[Reiwa]

How many unvaccinateds could you beatup?

I think I could get 3.

[Mblake1981]

How many unvaccinateds could you beatup?

I think I could get 3.

Apply for guard duty in kangaroo land :)

[Knowledge]

How many Kyle Rittenhouse can you beat up?

[Reiwa]

Apply for guard duty in kangaroo land :)

Gonna pass on that. They'd just 'glass' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassing) me and get a new pint. :(

[Mblake1981]

Gonna pass on that. They'd just 'glass' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassing) me and get a new pint. :(

ban assault glass :p

[unsunghero]

While I can’t stand Ethan (his old stuff was really funny, stopped watching when he decided to get ultra-political because his wife is Jewish or something), I was saying this same shit

Joe was dealing with Delta, which was the roughest strain thus far. But he could have still beaten it without meds. Then again, it’s his right as an adult to take whatever the F he wants. He just shouldn’t need to. Maybe he was worried about lung scarring or something. Although honestly from what I’ve read about the lungs they are actually one of the most regenerative organs in the human body

And the fact that Ethan later tried to act like he’s healthier than Joe just because Joe supposedly took HGH back in the day is ridiculous. Ethan looks like a blob of melted candle wax, probably has the cardiovascular health of a 80 year old woman

[Patriam1066]

Yeah maybe if Americans just *thought* a little harder, like *I* do, they could be the world's envy like mighty DENMARK

What’s wrong with Denmark? Swell country

[Gravydoo II]

How many unvaccinateds could you beatup?

I think I could get 3.

Two

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/K73LoEc.gif

https://i.imgur.com/0xEe7Mj.gif

[starkind]

wy do u think they are replacing glass bottles and cups with plastic ones?

[Mblake1981]

wy do u think they are replacing glass bottles and cups with plastic ones?

Germany invents the fully automatic black plastic cup.

Californians bypass the law with bump-stop solo cups purchased at Dollar General.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/FBZEAJY.gif

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/6ec5hJu.gif

[Homesteaded]

Can someone tell me one policy from the GOP that would make me want to vote for them?

Just one. What policy?

Some Republicans don’t advocate for killing babies, that’s good right? Not killing babies.

[Ooloo]

Killing babies is positively seen as a good thing on the left now. "Safe legal and rare" isn't their mantra anymore. Now it's: Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake.".

I sound like such a crotchety conservative but once you realize how fucked in the head the left is it's hard to unsee.

[Knowledge]

The media has been lying for the entire duration of our lifetime.

If you really believe 4 capitol police officers committed suicide, I have some ocean front property in Phoenix for sale. They were permanently hushed because the testimony they were gonna give didn't jive with the Dems/AP.

[Gravydoo II]

Killing babies is positively seen as a good thing on the left now. "Safe legal and rare" isn't their mantra anymore. Now it's: Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake.".

I sound like such a crotchety conservative but once you realize how fucked in the head the left is it's hard to unsee.

Name all the women you know who do this.



Thats what I thought.

[Gravydoo II]

Some Republicans don’t advocate for killing babies, that’s good right? Not killing babies.

Thats called murder, we already have a law for that.

I should vote for republicans because they are going to make something illegal, more illegal..?

[Reiwa]

Killing babies is positively seen as a good thing on the left now. "Safe legal and rare" isn't their mantra anymore. Now it's: Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake.".

I sound like such a crotchety conservative but once you realize how fucked in the head the left is it's hard to unsee.

Full female bodily autonomy was plaintiff Roe's contention that the Warren court rejected.

[nostalgiaquest]

Killing babies is positively seen as a good thing on the left now. "Safe legal and rare" isn't their mantra anymore. Now it's: Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake.".

I sound like such a crotchety conservative but once you realize how fucked in the head the left is it's hard to unsee.

You don't sound old and crotchety, you sound like a hyperbolic moron. Again.

[Ooloo]

You don't sound old and crotchety, you sound like a hyperbolic moron. Again.

So the left doesn't support killing babies? Or...?

Like yes I know *not all* leftists feel this way, always gotta throw out that disclaimer for the bad faithful out there. But many do, and the mainstream dem line on abortion is that it's some kind of sacred right for women to kill their unwanted children.

[nostalgiaquest]

So, like, you're saying, like, all democrats want to round of babies and mow them down with AR-15s?

If you're not willing to make a distinction between allowing women access to safe and legal abortions, and "killing babies", then you are a hyperbolic moron.

If you truly believe that a majority of anyone out there thinks they can "Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake.", then again, you are a moron.

It's like saying all conservatives love school shootings because they're against gun control. It boils an entire complex issue down into a stupid politically catchy statement.

Do you know anyone who's actually had an abortion? Have you had a conversation with them?

[Homesteaded]

It isn't that complex. When you have sex and the sperm enters the egg, it starts to build a human baby. Not a pig, not a cow, a real human being just like you.

Now if I were to stop that process, doesn't it make sense that I have stopped a human being from forming? I would be stopping the progress of that human being from fulfilling it's life and experiencing it's life. You don't want to call it murder? What else do you call it when you stop a human being from continuing it's life?

If the mother has the baby, is her life over? Is she not allowed to make choices? Could she put the baby up for adoption?

I've come full circle on abortion, as a young lad I bought into the intellectual argument put forth that choice was good and it wasn't my business. As I've aged and had kids of my own, that is a ploy and it's effective. It's effective because it makes those who hold that belief think they are superior, they are enlightened.

Abortion = murder.

[TheBardo]

Are we talking about conservative babies or the good type of baby

[unsunghero]

If the mother has the baby, is her life over? Is she not allowed to make choices? Could she put the baby up for adoption?

I've come full circle on abortion, as a young lad I bought into the intellectual argument put forth that choice was good and it wasn't my business. As I've aged and had kids of my own, that is a ploy and it's effective. It's effective because it makes those who hold that belief think they are superior, they are enlightened.

I’ve always been torn on the matter. It’s the ones that abuse the privilege that sour my opinion of the entire thing. There are absolutely people out there that do it only for a slight convenience…and here I’m thinking the chance of being born into this universe as a unique collection of like 40 trillion cells is a once in a 10 billion+ year phenomenon. Even if your parents had sex again, there can never be another you. That makes every living person extremely special, essentially a miracle (when considering the odds for a planet to support life then evolve to two humans making you)

So I would hope that the person has a damn good reason. But not everyone does

[Knowledge]

Haha sick fucks, make your little boy a girl. That'll fuck him up for life.

"But i think girls are pretty, Mama. "

"You will like boys!"

Lotsa mamas going to Hell lol.

[Reiwa]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16561&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1641484932

Twitter accounts are free.

[Knowledge]

sick-in-the-head bitches don't need to be having kids

[Mblake1981]

Twitter accounts are free.

read: don't believe anything easily on the internet, which was the old standing rule alongside not posting any personal information or photos.

https://i.imgur.com/MLJfSMR.jpg

[Knowledge]

How much of that CASH and POWER did Jobs take with him?

The kingdom of man crumbleth before God.

[Ooloo]

So, like, you're saying, like, all democrats want to round of babies and mow them down with AR-15s?

If you're not willing to make a distinction between allowing women access to safe and legal abortions, and "killing babies", then you are a hyperbolic moron.

If you truly believe that a majority of anyone out there thinks they can "Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake.", then again, you are a moron.

It's like saying all conservatives love school shootings because they're against gun control. It boils an entire complex issue down into a stupid politically catchy statement.

Do you know anyone who's actually had an abortion? Have you had a conversation with them?

Yes I do know more than one girl who has had an abortion. They both regret it. Obviously many women don't. But that's really beside the point.

And like most pro lifers, I don't want to make abortion completely illegal. I'm willing to compromise on the issue. The left are the "extremists", many of whom want abortion to be legal even in the 3rd trimester, for any reason. So you can keep making me out to be some hysterical right wing loon who opposes abortion for religious reasons, but I'm not. I oppose it for humanist reasons, for the same reason I oppose murdering any other innocent person.

There's this delusion that republicans are obsessed with controlling women's bodies. Like, no, they care about the rights of the body of the child inside. What if that baby is a little girl? What about her rights to bodily autonomy? In other words I don't oppose the religious argument against abortion, but you don't even need it.

[Jibartik]

Abortion = murder.

Its easy, when an egg is fertalized the only thing that will stop it is tragedy or if you destroy it.

as far as rape, I think the punishment's for causing an abortion should be murder for the convicted rapist.

If its a medical emergency, then that's what it is, a tragedy.

Other than that call it what it is, you're terminating a life.

I think people need to realize that if you think abortion is good because it makes the life better for the living that is eugenics.

Which is fine, Im fine if we want to go that way I believe in a space faring society.

But lets call a spade a spade.

[nostalgiaquest]

So you can keep making me out to be some hysterical right wing loon who opposes abortion for religious reasons, but I'm not.

I don't believe I said any of those things. What I'm saying is that when YOU make ridiculous hyperbolic statements like...

Now it's: Fuck like crazy and use abortion as birth control because men have been pigs for so long that now women should be pigs too, for empowerment's sake."

...You make yourself sound like a hysterical right wing loon. Your words, not mine. You undermine your entire premise when say stupid shit. Do you really not understand this?

[Mblake1981]

How much of that CASH and POWER did Jobs take with him?

The kingdom of man crumbleth before God.

kingdom of man, but what about that vagina over there hmm?

https://macdailynews.com/2015/01/22/steve-jobs-widow-laurene-powell-jobs-moves-on-as-she-vacations-on-jobs-designed-venus-yacht-with-former-dc-mayor-adrian-fenty/

“It is believed the two met at a Houston education conference in 2011 and bonded over school reform; Powell is the founder of Emerson Collective, which advocates for education reform, among others, while Fenty’s focus during his mayorship with education. The following year, Fenty joined the board of College Track, a non-profit program for underserved students wanting to go to college that was co-founded by Powell.”

https://www.businessinsider.com/laurene-powell-jobs-company-takes-majority-ownership-of-the-atlantic-2017-7

Laurene Powell Jobs, through her company Emerson Collective, will take majority ownership of The Atlantic, the company announced Friday.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/imagine-death-american-democracy-trump-insurrection/620841/

year after the insurrection, I’m trying to imagine the death of American democracy. It’s somehow easier to picture the Earth blasted and bleached by global warming, or the human brain overtaken by the tyranny of artificial intelligence, than to foresee the end of our 250-year experiment in self-government.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/04/jan-6-insurrection-sentencing-tracker-526091

More than 150 people have pleaded guilty to storming the Capitol on Jan. 6, but relatively few defendants have received prison time for their role in the insurrection.

No charges of insurrection for 'The Insurrection'. Controlling language is the first step in controlling the argument.

They are asserting their take through the media as truth while denouncing others as rebels. Someone should remind firehair that there are no Kings nor Queens in this country, but plenty of assholes who masquerade as them through financial matters.

The question is, will the media report them as 'the truth',will they carry the water, as their hands might be tied up behind closed doors. To really drive the point home, below that segment should be a reminder that the Press is free.

[Horza]

Yes I do know more than one girl who has had an abortion. They both regret it. Obviously many women don't. But that's really beside the point.

And like most pro lifers, I don't want to make abortion completely illegal. I'm willing to compromise on the issue. The left are the "extremists", many of whom want abortion to be legal even in the 3rd trimester, for any reason. So you can keep making me out to be some hysterical right wing loon who opposes abortion for religious reasons, but I'm not. I oppose it for humanist reasons, for the same reason I oppose murdering any other innocent person.

There's this delusion that republicans are obsessed with controlling women's bodies. Like, no, they care about the rights of the body of the child inside. What if that baby is a little girl? What about her rights to bodily autonomy? In other words I don't oppose the religious argument against abortion, but you don't even need it.

Single issue voters like yourself are fucking nutjobs.

[Ooloo]

I don't believe I said any of those things. What I'm saying is that when YOU make ridiculous hyperbolic statements like...



...You make yourself sound like a hysterical right wing loon. Your words, not mine. You undermine your entire premise when say stupid shit. Do you really not understand this?

Yeah I admit I used some colorful language, however that actually *is* the attitude of many younger women. Once feminism attained it's laudable and justified goals, it kept going and began teaching girls that equality means essentially acting more like men. It says sexual liberation is acting like men, who are often total pigs. Rather than encouraging men to act better, it started encouraging women to act worse. I think it's pretty self evident that that is true, to a large extent anyway. And with that came many more abortions, not to mention single motherhood, both of which I think should be actively avoided as much as possible.

[Mblake1981]

Why would a Presidential candidate, of any party, come out swinging against The Media?

[Knowledge]

Because the Media is 100% left wing dipshit. Except for Faux News

[Mblake1981]

Because the Media is 100% left wing dipshit. Except for Faux News

lol

[unsunghero]

Ya obviously anything printed online can be fake, but there are an entire spectrum of reasons for wanting an abortion, so if these were arranged from most valid (IMO) to least, it would go like:

(Most valid) I was raped - - - - - - (least valid) I don’t want a boy/girl

And it’s the not very valid reasons that sours my opinion on the entire thing, even though they may be a minority

[nostalgiaquest]

Yeah I admit I used some colorful language, however that actually *is* the attitude of many younger women. Once feminism attained it's laudable and justified goals, it kept going and began teaching girls that equality means essentially acting more like men. It says sexual liberation is acting like men, who are often total pigs. Rather than encouraging men to act better, it started encouraging women to act worse. I think it's pretty self evident that that is true, to a large extent anyway. And with that came many more abortions, not to mention single motherhood, both of which I think should be actively avoided as much as possible.

Ok let me try to explain my view on this, and why "I" think it's a complex issue -

First let's see if we can agree on a few things.
1 - Abortion is bad. We both want to reduce the amount of abortions.
2 - Making something illegal never works. See prohibition, war on drugs, gun bans, etc.
3 - I make the assumption that teen pregnancies are generally unplanned. Therefore, if we can reduce the rate of teen pregnancies, we can reduce the rate of abortions.

Do you agree with these statements? I hope so.

Ok, so let's do some good ol' fashion root cause analysis. The end scenario is a teenage girl is getting an abortion. Legality doesn't matter. She's doing it. Why is she having an abortion? Because she got pregnant. Why is she pregnant? Because she had unprotected sex, or sex without any sort of contraception (Yes, there are times when condoms/pills fail, but lets exclude those for the sake of my argument). So my basic root cause analysis says that if this teen girl did not have unprotected sex, she would not have gotten pregnant, and would not need an abortion. Yeah?

So how do we discourage girls (and guys for that matter) from having unprotected sex? First, and importantly, I do not believe we can stop teens from having sex. With the insanity that is the internet and social media, teens are going to have sex. Back in my day, we were lucky to steal some playboys from a friends house, or watch that one super blurry channel hoping for a boob to come through. Those days are long gone, and they aint coming back. Maybe you have ideas on how to promote abstinence, if so i'd love to hear them. See point #2 above.

So if we can't get them to stop having sex, we need to make sure they're being safe about it, right? In my opinion, the way you do that it through sexual education, and easy access to contraception. Not to be that guy again, but here's how they do it in the Netherlands. From a simple google search -

"Dutch sexuality education begins as early as age four, when children receive lessons on relationships, appropriate touching, and intimacy. The curriculum expands to include age-appropriate topics and concepts. Seven-year-olds learn the proper names of different body parts and eight-year-olds discuss gender stereotypes."

And surprise surprise, the Netherlands has one of the lowest abortion rates in the world. So can we agree that this an example of how proper education can reduce abortion rates? Dutch teens aren't having less sex than the rest of the world, they're just doing it "right". This is not an isolated example either.

So now let's look at the United States. What states have the highest teen pregnancy rates? Texas, New Mexico, Mississippi, Arkansas, Arizona, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Georgia, South Carolina, Nevada, Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, Etc. Notice a pattern here? Why is it that conservative states have the highest teen pregnancy rates? What is that they're doing that is failing? Or, better question, what are the best states, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut (again, notice a pattern here?), doing that is working?

Using my argument that better education will reduce teen pregnancies, and abortions, it is apparent to me that conservative states are failing miserably in whatever education (or lack thereof) program they are using.

So my final point is this - If you truly want to reduce abortion rates, focus on the root cause not the end result. I want abortions to be lower, therefore I want more education and access to contraception. Yet this goes against the conservative, pro-life, agenda. Why is that? What am I missing? I ask that question honestly and sincerely.

[Horza]

Yeah I admit I used some colorful language, however that actually *is* the attitude of many younger women. Once feminism attained it's laudable and justified goals, it kept going and began teaching girls that equality means essentially acting more like men. It says sexual liberation is acting like men, who are often total pigs. Rather than encouraging men to act better, it started encouraging women to act worse. I think it's pretty self evident that that is true, to a large extent anyway. And with that came many more abortions, not to mention single motherhood, both of which I think should be actively avoided as much as possible.

ITT: male Republicans solve social issues like single parenthood by trying to have women locked up for going against their religious views.

[unsunghero]

solve social issues like single parenthood.

That day when Democrats and Republicans came together in agreement

(I’m the black one)

[Toxigen]

you retards circle jerk over dems vs repubs but in reality we're all in a corporate plutocracy

hope this helps

[Ooloo]

ITT: male Republicans solve social issues like single parenthood by trying to have women locked up for going against their religious views.

See this is just a lazy troll. I know you know that I specifically said it's not a religious view.

You're capable of better trolling horza.

[Ooloo]

Ok let me try to explain my view on this, and why "I" think it's a complex issue -

First let's see if we can agree on a few things.
1 - Abortion is bad. We both want to reduce the amount of abortions.
2 - Making something illegal never works. See prohibition, war on drugs, gun bans, etc.
3 - I make the assumption that teen pregnancies are generally unplanned. Therefore, if we can reduce the rate of teen pregnancies, we can reduce the rate of abortions.

Do you agree with these statements? I hope so.

No, I don't agree with those statements. 1 and 3 yeah, I do. But making things illegal certainly does and can work, it depends what you're talking about specifically. You can't just reduce it to "ban = good or bad". Murder is illegal. Yes people still murder, but fewer people murder because it is illegal. Larceny is a crime, most people don't steal because of the legal punishment for stealing. When laws against stealing are relaxed, which we are literally seeing right now in places like san francisco, theft skyrockets. So there is certainly a strong correlation between legality and frequency there.

Usually when people bring this up they are talking about the drug war. The drug war is a special exception because people WANT drugs, proactively.

I mean you still need to answer the question of why you can kill a baby inside the womb, but not outside. The left accuses the right of arbitrarily defining conception or a heartbeat as the moment of life, but the left believes in an equally arbitrary magic trick, which is that life only begins at some point when a baby is exiting a vagina.

Supporting abortion invites all kinds of ugly philosophical questions about infanticide. Opposing abortion is a much more consistent position; killing innocent human beings is always wrong.

[Gatordash]

See this is just a lazy troll. I know you know that I specifically said it's not a religious view.

You're capable of better trolling horza.

ITT: Male republicans who have made a shit load of terrible decisions in their life try to gain morale high ground by telling women, "well you shouldn't have done that".

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/TB3LWIa.jpeg

[Ooloo]

With regard to education, I agree education is good. Access to contraception is good. The absence of either of those things does not justify the killing of an unplanned baby though, if the baby is healthy and there is no serious threat to the life of the mother (which there almost never is in a normal pregnancy given modern medical tech). The baby can always be put up for adoption, it doesn't have to be a lifelong burden on the life of the mother, but you also don't have to kill it.

[Ooloo]

ITT: Male republicans who have made a shit load of terrible decisions in their life try to gain morale high ground by telling women, "well you shouldn't have done that".

Men and women make babies by fucking. Fucking feels good for both men and women. You assume the risk of creating a new human life when you fuck. If you get preggo by accident, the man and the woman should both accept responsibility for the act that they consensually engaged in and either raise the child together or put it up for adoption.

It's not some puritanical indictment of women here, it applies to men to. If you knock up your girlfriend, step up and be a man and raise the kid or at least support your partner through the pregnancy and find an adoptive family.

Killing the thing instead is just you both being lazy horny retards.

[Horza]

Men and women make babies by fucking. Fucking feels good for both men and women. You assume the risk of creating a new human life when you fuck. If you get preggo by accident, the man and the woman should both accept responsibility for the act that they consensually engaged in and either raise the child together or put it up for adoption.

It's not some puritanical indictment of women here, it applies to men to. If you knock up your girlfriend, step up and be a man and raise the kid or at least support your partner through the pregnancy and find an adoptive family.

Killing the thing instead is just you both being lazy horny retards.

Lock 'em all up (by which GOPtards like yourself mean non-evangelical women of reproductive age).

[Ooloo]

Horza I don't know wtf you're saying but you definitely haven't even tried to present a moral justification for the killing of unborn children, so eat a bag of dicks until you can

[Gatordash]

Do you know how I know you're an idiot?

If you get preggo by accident, the man and the woman should both accept responsibility for the act that they consensually engaged in and either raise the child together or put it up for adoption.

It's not some puritanical indictment of women here, it applies to men to.

[Horza]

Do you know how I know you're an idiot?

aNfsJuv0bJU

[Jibartik]

2 - Making something illegal never works. See prohibition, war on drugs, gun bans, etc.

Are you seriously suggesting the plot of The Purge is good argument for abortion?

[unsunghero]

How I prevent unwanted pregnancies

[Jibartik]

ITT lefties who think they still might lose their virginity want to make sure they dont have to potentially be parents one day spoiler they will end up getting pegged in bed anyway so the conversation is mute.

[Reiwa]

ITT lefties who think they still might lose their virginity want to make sure they dont have to potentially be parents one day spoiler they will end up getting pegged in bed anyway so the conversation is mute.

moot. like moops but with a t.

[unsunghero]

If CPS allowed you to give up custody of your kid without incurring a felony for neglect do ya’ll know how many parents would do it?

You don’t wanna know…

[Jibartik]

ITT lefties who think they still might lose their virginity want to make sure they dont have to potentially be parents one day spoiler they will end up getting pegged in bed anyway so the conversation is moot.

[Homesteaded]

If CPS allowed you to give up custody of your kid without incurring a felony for neglect do ya’ll know how many parents would do it?

You don’t wanna know…

So quit having unprotected sex? Suck some dick or lick some clits. Or run the risk of having a kid and becoming an adult, fast. Or put the kid up for adoption.

Or go the route of the left and just murder the baby.

I only know of one woman who had an abortion and I think it deeply troubles here to this day. I hope she can forgive herself because she was duped as a young kid to think it was fine. It's totally not fine to kill babies.

[nostalgiaquest]

No, I don't agree with those statements. 1 and 3 yeah, I do. But making things illegal certainly does and can work, it depends what you're talking about specifically. You can't just reduce it to "ban = good or bad". Murder is illegal. Yes people still murder, but fewer people murder because it is illegal. Larceny is a crime, most people don't steal because of the legal punishment for stealing. When laws against stealing are relaxed, which we are literally seeing right now in places like san francisco, theft skyrockets. So there is certainly a strong correlation between legality and frequency there.

OK. I see your point and I agree. If we make abortion illegal, it will reduce the number that happen, but it will not bring it to zero. Just like with murder and larceny, it’s still going to happen, it will just be illegal. Now think about what “illegal” abortion entails. I don’t know the details, but I’d guess a back alley abortion clinic is a pretty terrible place for everyone involved.

So now we have two options on the table that will reduce the abortion rate. We have education, which I believe is exponentially more effective across the board, is proven to work, addresses a fundamental root cause, has overall benefit to society, and has zero downsides. Or you have illegal back alley abortion clinics that less people go to. Mostly poor people btw, cuz the rich will always have access to clinics let’s be honest. And what about the increase in orphans, since we haven’t actually solved the problem? What’s the better solution?

Maybe there’s a solution that involves both ideas. I don’t know. And we can argue all day on when a human becomes a human. But why aren’t pro lifers jumping up and down and demanding education reform? Why are they doing nothing, or worse than nothing, in their states to actively address teen pregnancies? I simply don’t understand how someone can say they’re pro life, and completely ignore a solution that’s staring them in the face.

Now, for funsies, I’m going to put on my tin foil hat and make a bold statement. I hope it’s not true, but hey that’s politics baby. Conservative politicians don’t give two shits about abortion. Hell, how many of their kids have secretly had them? All they care about is the political talking point. It’s such a polarized issue that it’s been weaponized as a sure fire way to fire up the base and maintain us versus them. Which is why they actively resist education reform.

[unsunghero]

So quit having unprotected sex? Suck some dick or lick some clits. Or run the risk of having a kid and becoming an adult, fast. Or put the kid up for adoption.

Or go the route of the left and just murder the baby.

I only know of one woman who had an abortion and I think it deeply troubles here to this day. I hope she can forgive herself because she was duped as a young kid to think it was fine. It's totally not fine to kill babies.

I said it because I deal with shitty parents all the time in my job, and so many have either asked me directly about giving up their kid and/or threatened their kid to give them and/or contacted CPS themselves and asked. Then they have the disappointment of finding out it’s illegal

I’m not saying this as an argument for abortion. I’m just saying there’s a ton of shitty parents out there. And there’s a ton of irresponsible people who will try to take any way out they can, including giving their kid up, until they find out it’s illegal

But again, I only see dysfunctional family dynamics so I become jaded

[unsunghero]

Maybe there’s a solution that involves both ideas. I don’t know. And we can argue all day on when a human becomes a human. But why aren’t pro lifers jumping up and down and demanding education reform? Why are they doing nothing, or worse than nothing, in their states to actively address teen pregnancies? I simply don’t understand how someone can say they’re pro life, and completely ignore a solution that’s staring them in the face.

It is and always will be a stupid position to be pro-life but also completely anti-all contraceptives including things like condoms

It’s one or the other, either a pregnancy or a condom. Because waiting until marriage is simply not going to work in our “sex sells” American culture. Could the entire culture be changed? No, even though I might think that would do some good. It would have too much pushback to try to become puritanical

[Reiwa]

It is and always will be a stupid position to be pro-life but also completely anti-all contraceptives including things like condoms

It’s one or the other, either a pregnancy or a condom. Because waiting until marriage is simply not going to work in our “sex sells” American culture. Could the entire culture be changed? No, even though I might think that would do some good. It would have too much pushback to try to become puritanical

Pro-life was originally a Catholic thing but was stolen by heretics and anti-theists.

[Reiwa]

There's no scriptural basis for supporting one but not the other.

Luther should still be at St Lamberts, imo.

[unsunghero]

There's no scriptural basis for supporting one but not the other.

I believe most pro-lifers believe life begins at conception, so a condom would not be something they would see as immoral but the morning after pill would

Then again, sex before marriage used to be a no-no I believe with both Christianity and Catholicism, and that would include with a condom

So I guess it depends on how modern-adapted your belief system is

[Ooloo]

I said it because I deal with shitty parents all the time in my job, and so many have either asked me directly about giving up their kid and/or threatened their kid to give them and/or contacted CPS themselves and asked. Then they have the disappointment of finding out it’s illegal

I’m not saying this as an argument for abortion. I’m just saying there’s a ton of shitty parents out there. And there’s a ton of irresponsible people who will try to take any way out they can, including giving their kid up, until they find out it’s illegal

But again, I only see dysfunctional family dynamics so I become jaded

Wouldn't CPS also be concerned about a kid living in a home with parents who are only not giving him up because it's illegal? Isn't that like advertising that neglect is inevitable?

[Gatordash]

ITT lefties who think they still might lose their virginity want to make sure they dont have to potentially be parents one day spoiler they will end up getting pegged in bed anyway so the conversation is moot.

ITT Jib is jealous he is missing out on the pegging action.

[unsunghero]

Wouldn't CPS also be concerned about a kid living in a home with parents who are only not giving him up because it's illegal? Isn't that like advertising that neglect is inevitable?

CPS is completely swamped 100% of the time. There aren’t even enough shelters to put kids in, let alone group homes. So other agencies like Behavioral Health Hospitals and Residential Treatment Centers have to help share the load. For example, a CPS case manager will take custody of a kid, take them to a adolescent behavioral health hospital and sign them in due to mental health problems that may be partly genetic and partly due to their shitty childhood, and then just leave them there. After a few weeks the Hospital will be calling like “uhhh are you gonna come pick up this kid?” And the CPS case manager will be like “sorry, no shelter available yet to put them in”. And the Hospital will be like “ok….” with nothing they can do but keep the kid for months and months sometimes. Because they can’t discharge a kid to no one

So when parents worry “is CPS going to show up and seize my kid?” not for stuff like emotional abuse of telling your kid you don’t love them and don’t want them to live there. CPS just doesn’t have the resources for that. They have to triage seizing custody for cases of serious physical/sexual abuse/neglect as priority and then go down from there. They still will get involved if you tell your kid you hate them and don’t want them, but it will be to do parenting classes and other stuff, they really will try to avoid seizing custody as a last resort

Edit. This is CPS in my state, don’t take it as a reflection for CPS everywhere or adoption centers (I have no experience with these)

[Reiwa]

I believe most pro-lifers believe life begins at conception, so a condom would not be something they would see as immoral but the morning after pill would

Then again, sex before marriage used to be a no-no I believe with both Christianity and Catholicism, and that would include with a condom

So I guess it depends on how modern-adapted your belief system is

The sin is usurping God's will in the creation of life. Tacking some ex post facto Lutherist reasoning onto that just makes God madder and madder.

[unsunghero]

The sin is usurping God's will in the creation of life. Tacking some ex post facto Lutherist reasoning onto that just makes God madder and madder.

How is my choice to use a condom or pull out uspurping God’s will when God gave us free will?

[Ooloo]

The thing is the moral argument and what policy should be are separate questions. Some people might consider me very reluctantly "pro choice" because I do support things like the morning after pill, because I'm not personally religious and I think physical complexity is a relevant factor to consider. It's just that I place value on physical complexity much earlier than most on the left. Like, I support the texas heartbeat bill. I think the reasoning behind it is perfectly defensible. They would probably prefer that it be outlawed entirely, but it's still legal to obtain an abortion for quite a while, so they were willing to compromise in order to at least hopefully reduce the number of later-term abortions, and thus the total net number of abortions period.

[Reiwa]

How is my choice to use a condom or pull out uspurping God’s will when God gave us free will?

Maybe I meant to say defiance or disobedience to God's authority. Some shit like that.

But it sounded cooler. 😎

[unsunghero]

Maybe I meant to say defiance or disobedience to God's authority. Some shit like that.

But it sounded cooler. 😎

Yeah to someone not that religious like me it gets muddled. Because I understand how both ecologically and religiously sex was meant to be for procreation…so it’s like if you don’t want/plan to have a kid don’t have sex. But that might not fit a healthy marriage. For example, if a couple has 3 kids and only has the capacity to care for 3 kids, does this mean swearing off sex for potentially the rest of their marriage or until the wife hits menopause? How is a sexless marriage devoid of intimacy a healthy one, even from a religious standpoint?

[Reiwa]

Yeah to someone not that religious like me it gets muddled. Because I understand how both ecologically and religiously sex was meant to be for procreation…so it’s like if you don’t want/plan to have a kid don’t have sex. But that might not fit a healthy marriage. For example, if a couple has 3 kids and only has the capacity to care for 3 kids, does this mean swearing off sex for potentially the rest of their marriage or until the wife hits menopause? How is a sexless marriage devoid of intimacy a healthy one, even from a religious standpoint?

Yeah his role as the Creator/creator of life.

I should words better. 🐒

[starkind]

In my universe.

Evil is smote by the righteous and no one bitches about that or runs screaming to governments. The government does not involve itself in the evil smiting or stand in its way. The government simply administrates the aquaducts fairly for all and if the government fails in this task. Smiting.

[unsunghero]

So apparently this famous die-hard leftist, Hasan Piker, doesn’t seem to hate and may actually have some begrudging respect for Jordan Peterson. This is interesting, because you can tell tribalism has instructed him to hate JP due to I guess his history of transphobic statements and support of capitalism and meritocracy. But Jordan was never completely transphobic, he just protested legally-enforced speech, at least to my knowledge

I stumbled onto this video trying to find Ethan’s perspective on his little Twitter feud with Joe Rogan. I can’t say this is worth a watch. I could only get through like the first 20min

I don’t understand why leftists like Hasan lean so hard on the “Conservatives are the way they are because of their views towards feminism and the fact they can’t get laid”. For someone that acts like such an intellectual debater that is such a dumb and lazy take

I would love to debate this guy on at least that point. A huge chunk of conservatives are older married men (and women) with children and grandchildren, how does this theory apply to them? And both parties have “basement-dwellers” who can’t get laid. Both these groups have common characteristics such as low IQ, which makes them easy to manipulate especially to violence, and often mental illness or being on the autism spectrum. None of those characteristics are their fault. Hasan dismisses conservatives that can’t get laid as due to them being “repulsive nazi’s”. So what’s his explanation for the liberal basement-dwelling men who can’t get laid, because I promise you they’re out there, in equal numbers. You think all those Antifa hoodlums bear-macing old men and their pet dogs at a trump rally are going home and railing hotties? Sorry, not happening. The “foot soldiers” of either party are low-IQ socially awkward and often mentally ill men who can’t get laid

The only parts I did agree with was that pick up artists are generally a joke, people that “sell” masculinity classes are often a complete fucking scam (conservatives are big on the family unit, you should have learned to be a man from your dad not from some internet “guru”), and incels standards for women are completely out of whack. I think they think there are far more incels than there really are though

Anyway, rant over. First time hearing this Hasan Piker, was not impressed, at all

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X_IAposyoTQ

[starkind]

*swipes left on the tiny painted fingernails and overly tight ring and wireframes with the "i just grew this but it took three weeks intellectosexual beard"*

Tldr, that's a big nope from me dawg.

[unsunghero]

*swipes left on the tiny painted fingernails and overly tight ring and wireframes with the "i just grew this but it took three weeks intellectosexual beard"*

Tldr, that's a big nope from me dawg.

Fair enough if u meant TL:DR on my rant, it was long lol

I dunno much about this Hasan guy, but he’s apparently a semi-big deal amount young leftists. He’s a multi-millionaire socialist in a capitalist country (always an odd pairing those two concepts) who has a really successful twitch and maybe YouTube channel. And apparently he may have done some debates or challenges high profile conservatives to debates

That’s what I had heard about him prior

[starkind]

Fair enough if u meant TL:DR on my rant, it was long lol

I dunno much about this Hasan guy, but he’s apparently a semi-big deal amount young leftists. He’s a multi-millionaire socialist in a capitalist country (always an odd pairing those two concepts) who has a really successful twitch and maybe YouTube channel. And apparently he may have done some debates or challenges high profile conservatives to debates

That’s what I had heard about him prior

Naw ur rant is fine.

Hasan screems creepiness epstien Rothschild level vibes.

JPeterson is right about a lot. He's actually not that dumb. He just uses words ppl don't like and expects ppl not to suck whether life is fair or not. All crap I toats agree upon.

[Horza]

Jordan Peterson is an incredibly stupid pillhead who fried his brain by having a sketchy, Eastern European medical clinic put him in a coma to detox off benzos.

[Reiwa]

Hasan screems creepiness epstien Rothschild level vibes.


All youtube politics mans are bad, no exceptions.

[unsunghero]

Jordan Peterson is an incredibly stupid pillhead who fried his brain by having a sketchy, Eastern European medical clinic put him in a coma to detox off benzos.

I did some digging into his benzo ordeal, which I had known about, including his choice of detox method

I already knew Benzo withdrawal was one of the few that can be life threatening, this is due to the possibility of having multiple or prolonged seizures upon suddenly stopping. The more of these total, or the longer the individual seizure duration, the more likely it is to damage the brain

Apparently Jordan did have some neurological damage to his brain as a result of either the withdrawal or the detox method. It appears he probably did speech, physical, and occupational therapy. I’ve seen him doing interviews since and he seems to be functioning amazingly well for someone who suffered brain damage. I had a gal on my FB who sustained brain damage at her job years and years ago and has been disabled and in a wheelchair since. And she was already well-off financially, insured, and won a huge settlement allowing her to able to afford all the best care, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth. Never could walk again

So maybe Jordan did have some blessing or grace to recover as well as he appeared to. He’s also accomplished more and will still accomplish more post-injury than you have or will. He’s still doing interviews and lectures making money with brain damage. What’s your excuse? What explanation did you give to disability when you signed up to be professionally unemployed? I’m sure you led with the fact you didn’t finish high school but federal disability won’t accept that reason, what did you segway into from there?

[Jibartik]

Jordan Peterson is an incredibly stupid pillhead who fried his brain by having a sketchy, Eastern European medical clinic put him in a coma to detox off benzos.

Out of curiosity who do you think is smart? Just wondering.

[Ooloo]

Hasan is Cenk Uygur (ceo of the young turks) nephew. He used to work at tyt. Maybe still does?

Anyway, he has the IQ of a highschool football player and is a complete hypocrite and massive retard. That's all.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/La0ZPSp.gif

[Homesteaded]

Jordan Peterson is an incredibly stupid pillhead who fried his brain by having a sketchy, Eastern European medical clinic put him in a coma to detox off benzos.

The compassionate left.

[starkind]

Hasan is Cenk Uygur (ceo of the young turks) nephew. He used to work at tyt. Maybe still does?

Anyway, he has the IQ of a highschool football player and is a complete hypocrite and massive retard. That's all.

https://i.imgur.com/La0ZPSp.gif

was not @tchu

thanks for deleting that gross post

yes ppl should know

i didn wanna see that shit this morning

confirmed my suspicions

[Gravydoo II]

give me 20 xanex and ima start droppin dem there aint no stoppin dem - jordan peterson

[Knowledge]

What will you do in the day God's voice becomes hearable?

[starkind]

What will you do in the day God's voice becomes hearable?

https://i.imgur.com/DyTyhmP.gif

Already there rl'y.

[Horza]

Out of curiosity who do you think is smart? Just wondering.

People who don't travel all the way to the eastern bloc against their doctor's advice to give themselves brain damage.

[Jibartik]

Is there 1 though I seriously wonder lol

[unsunghero]

give me 20 xanex and ima start droppin dem there aint no stoppin dem - jordan peterson

I’ve tried zanny before, had bad experiences, but looking back now I find them funny. Forgot if I told this story before:

My step cousin was an extremely attractive gal who only hung out with extremely attractive girl friends. Her best friend was this blonde bombshell, I mean 11/10 could easily be a pro model, was a professional go go dancer at bars, gorgeous face and body like a fitness model, D cup fake boobs

They invited my cousin and I to meet them at a super popular country bar one night and hang out. I knew obviously there was a chance I could get asked to dance, at the time I sucked at country dancing (two step, very popular here in az esp with the white chicks), and I just dreaded it. I had bummed some zanny off a female co-worker months ago who had a prescription, but never felt a need to take any

So I figured take a half of those, that will relax you to where you can dance. But we also pre-gamed at my cousins house and had a few beers. I had never done Xanax before, or maybe once ever in my life, so my tolerance was zero, and I just popped it and then immediately threw back like 3 beers

We’re standing in this hella-long line of sweaty (we’re in az) dudes waiting to get in. Like an hour+ line. Chicks got right in, dudes had to wait in line. I actually got half way through it and then….something strange started happening. From the corners of my vision towards the center, started this brown wave of color. Eventually my entire sight was brown, I could no longer see. I could still hear, somewhat, but everyone’s voices were muffled, like that teacher in the Charlie Brown cartoon

“Oh shit, I’m passing out” I thought, and grabbed the railing for dear life, there was absolutely nowhere to sit. I musta been swaying because the next thing I knew a hand was gripping my shoulder tight and my cousin’s voice was in my ear “bro, what the fuck is wrong with you?”

“I’m fine, I’m fine, just a little dizzy”. He responded with “Jesus Christ man, I’ll help hold you up”. And he did, and I used all my willpower to concentrate on gripping that railing for dear life despite still not being able to see. I took a few steps forward and then eventually we were 2nd in line from the front

“Look bro, the bouncer is just ahead. You need to get your shit together, because if he sees you about to pass out he’s not going to let us in and then this entire hour long wait has been for nothing. Ok? So GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER”

“Ok man, I got this”. I shook my head a few times, and I could see well enough to see the bouncer and show him my ID. We got in. I made a beeline for the bar, waving cash in the air to get the bartender to come over. He expected me to order drinks but I said “water please, I don’t feel good, I need as much water as you can give me”. He gave me two huge cups of water and I tipped him like $6. I slammed the water and eventually felt better

It was all for nothing, there was no room to dance so everyone was just standing around. Neither of us really had any shot with our stepcousin’s gorgeous friend and she was so insanely hot, that other bro’s from the bar would walk up and start talking to her while we were already talking to her. I realized jeez if you had a gf this hot, you would literally have to be getting in fights every time you both went out to a bar

Anyway, still had a decent time, dont think I ever did another zanny for years

[Gravydoo II]

xanex bad.. i once hid a guy who was on a xanex bender. all he knew was the police were after him and he had 30 when he started and had nothing left.

[Patriam1066]

All youtube politics mans are bad, no exceptions.

[Homesteaded]

Jordan Petersen speaks truth, many young men in this forum could benefit from listening to him.

[Knowledge]

Jesus Christ is the truth, the way, and the life. Set aside what time, rust and moth destroy, and hold tightly to that which is not destroyed.

[Jibartik]

Jesus Christ is the truth, the way, and the life. Set aside what time, rust and moth destroy, and hold tightly to that which is not destroyed.

weE6ReB93Bo

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/KbZ6uVw.png

Damn!

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/KbZ6uVw.png

Damn!

I remember when I told the guy at the counter that one day he'd only give me coins in return for a 5$ for a pack of cigarettes' one day.

it was lie 10 dollars when I quit haha

also wtf was shit half a penny 50 years earlier than that? how could it get any less at he rate of inflation from them

how we go from that to where we are now?

oh i know.

reptilians.

[unsunghero]

I like JP’s quote at the start of this. Preach, JP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=64wRRNWvP9g

[Horza]

You can definitely hear a difference in his voice prior to all the traumatic brain injuries and years of popping pills.

[Jibartik]

You can definitely hear a difference in his voice prior to all the traumatic brain injuries and years of popping pills.

good and moral folks here

[bubur]

kind reminder that the <100 unique people on this forum are 30+ years old, probably average 35 years of age and as such have concreted their political opinions within their being several years ago

hope this helps you enjoy your evening

[Jibartik]

that's totally the age where you go from young to old, lots of red pilled libs 35-40 tho.

Wait till you realize there isnt time for that one last thing. Its the god damn kids fault.

[Knowledge]

Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

[unsunghero]

that's totally the age where you go from young to old, lots of red pilled libs 35-40 tho.

Wait till you realize there isnt time for that one last thing. Its the god damn kids fault.

My dad used to tell me if you didn’t have mostly progressive ideals when you were young then you didn’t have a heart. If you didn’t have mostly conservative ideals when you got older then you didn’t have a brain

[bubur]

Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

god is gay

[Jibartik]

My dad used to tell me if you didn’t have mostly progressive ideals when you were young then you didn’t have a heart. If you didn’t have mostly conservative ideals when you got older then you didn’t have a brain

I used to think that was stupid and then i was like holy shit

[unsunghero]

You can definitely hear a difference in his voice prior to all the traumatic brain injuries and years of popping pills.

I can’t, but maybe I haven’t heard enough of him speak since

It’s interesting to see your distaste of drug addicts. What do you suggest we do with the ones on skid row or near CASS in my state?

[Knowledge]

Other than NOT KILLING unborn babies I'm a Democrat. But that one thing alone makes me a Repub.

[bubur]

Other than NOT KILLING unborn babies I'm a Democrat. But that one thing alone makes me a Repub.

big ol gay guy

[Knowledge]

LET'S GO BRANDON!

[Jibartik]

science is bad mkay

[Gravydoo II]

You can definitely hear a difference in his voice prior to all the traumatic brain injuries and years of popping pills.

Are they seriously referencing the guy who said that women should be rationed out to all men?? Like no man should be alone. He should be assigned a woman, from the state. That guy. LOL Oh he hates socialism, too.

[bubur]

Are they seriously referencing the guy who said that women should be rationed out to all men?? Like no man should be alone. He should be assigned a woman, from the state. That guy. LOL Oh he hates socialism, too.

hey lets play valheim together bud

[Homesteaded]

Are they seriously referencing the guy who said that women should be rationed out to all men?? Like no man should be alone. He should be assigned a woman, from the state. That guy. LOL Oh he hates socialism, too.

He (Gravy) really believes this.

[nostalgiaquest]

My dad used to tell me if you didn’t have mostly progressive ideals when you were young then you didn’t have a heart. If you didn’t have mostly conservative ideals when you got older then you didn’t have a brain

I feel like I’ve been the opposite.

I’m curious what you mean by conservative and progressive ideas though. Can you give me some examples?

[unsunghero]

I feel like I’ve been the opposite.

I’m curious what you mean by conservative and progressive ideas though. Can you give me some examples?

He meant it in a general sense, didn't give specifics

[nostalgiaquest]

Well that’s convenient.

[Knowledge]

Let's go Brandon. I agree.

Alex Jones never came out and said "9/11 was an inside job" he kept blaming saudis and shit so i know hes a fraud. The fucking planes were USAF drone 737s and the pentagon and shanksville were missiles alotta suckers for the children live in america.

[Gravydoo II]

Lets go rape daddy.

Where's he going?

Prison.

[Knowledge]

Lets go rape daddy.

Where's he going?

Prison.

You must mean in the Afterlife cause it won't be on Earth. Where's the source proving Trump raped women? Reptile answer me.
Donald Trump never raped anyone you better start using horza's horse paste line boy it's all you got rape daddy is bill fucking clinton.

Bill clinton makes bill cosby look like mister rodgers. he aint goin to prison either. on Earth, anyhow

[Gravydoo II]

Yeah. He ran from a DNA test proving his innocence. He wont take it. I believe any woman who says rape daddy raped her over rape daddy saying he didnt.

Why did he run from the test...? Still running from the test. Could get rid of this whole "hes a rapist" thing three years ago. Ran from it, like a pussy ass bitch. Cause hes a rapist and he knows it. I know it. You know it. 26 accusations dont lie.

Best friends with epstein and maxwell GROSS.

Listen, if you got friends like Epstein and maxwell, you're a rapist. Wouldnt you agree? Bill Clinton, probably a rapist, too. Get rid of ALL OF THEM.


Thats the difference. You say "keep the rapists I like" I say hang em all.

[Knowledge]

ran from a DNA test proving his innocence - you mean a jury found him not guilty?

oh, you mean he wasnt brought to court? no charges files?

26 accusations do lie when pocketbooks are being filled with riches.

I havent had respect for the US judicial system since they let OJ off. And never will. God damn it all.
Only reason he got off was because his football playing ass was lucky enough to be sworn in to the Illuminati.
LAPD fucked up the crime scene on purpose to let him off. Freemasons are brothers in crime. Any who squeal die. Many (stars) die who dont squeal.
They are called BLOOD sacrifices.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Yeah. He ran from a DNA test proving his innocence. He wont take it. I believe any woman who says rape daddy raped her over rape daddy saying he didnt.

Why did he run from the test...? Still running from the test. Could get rid of this whole "hes a rapist" thing three years ago. Ran from it, like a pussy ass bitch. Cause hes a rapist and he knows it. I know it. You know it. 26 accusations dont lie.

Best friends with epstein and maxwell GROSS.

Listen, if you got friends like Epstein and maxwell, you're a rapist. Wouldnt you agree? Bill Clinton, probably a rapist, too. Get rid of ALL OF THEM.


Thats the difference. You say "keep the rapists I like" I say hang em all.

What you’re forgetting is, if the accusations were legitimate, a dna test would be court ordered. And given how long ago the alleged rapes cnn made up to defame someone who wasn’t part of the controlled political circle, a dna test wouldn’t do any good unless they somehow get hold of the vaticans time machine to go back to when it supposedly happen (spoiler: it didn’t)

[F0rmsh1fter]

Imagine believing any ridiculous claim the Bolshevik media makes up about an opposition figure because that same media showed you 1% of a video clip and told you you’d be a lodes cia term if you didn’t agree with them

Big yikes there, chief. Trump 2024 (brought to you by biden)

[Knowledge]

Bye Den.

[Elizondo]

Yeah. He ran from a DNA test proving his innocence. He wont take it. I believe any woman who says rape daddy raped her over rape daddy saying he didnt.

Why did he run from the test...? Still running from the test. Could get rid of this whole "hes a rapist" thing three years ago. Ran from it, like a pussy ass bitch. Cause hes a rapist and he knows it. I know it. You know it. 26 accusations dont lie.

Best friends with epstein and maxwell GROSS.

Listen, if you got friends like Epstein and maxwell, you're a rapist. Wouldnt you agree? Bill Clinton, probably a rapist, too. Get rid of ALL OF THEM.


Thats the difference. You say "keep the rapists I like" I say hang em all.

lol dude you are so low IQ

it's impossible to run from a DNA test. if there was actually a case against him, the cops ould just shadow him until he tossed a cup away he had been drinking from and they would legally have obtained his DNA

folks like you still believe the russia hoax was legit cuz you watch cnn and eat bugs

[Ooloo]

I feel like I’ve been the opposite.

I’m curious what you mean by conservative and progressive ideas though. Can you give me some examples?

Certainly some people are more conservative when they're younger and become more liberal when they're older, it happens. It happens much more often in reverse though (libs becoming conservative).

Libs have simple, feel-good proposals that are often naive and impractical, like a kid or teenager often does. Conservatives often don't disagree with the goals of libs (depends on the topic); the disagreement is almost always about how to achieve it.

For example: Libs think it's kind and compassionate to indulge the delusions of transgender people. Conservatives think it's actually cruel to do that, and that real compassion is trying to guide such a person out of their confusion, not affirm it. Libs compare this to "conversion therapy", understandably. However conservatives view transgender ideology as just a different form of conversion therapy ("No no, my son isn't gay, he's just secretly a girl!"). So they both care about the wellbeing of this person and want to help them, they just disagree about what constitutes "help".

Neither side is just a bunch of sociopaths. Genuine sociopaths are exceedingly rare.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Certainly some people are more conservative when they're younger and become more liberal when they're older, it happens. It happens much more often in reverse though (libs becoming conservative).

Libs have simple, feel-good proposals that are often naive and impractical, like a kid or teenager often does. Conservatives often don't disagree with the goals of libs (depends on the topic); the disagreement is almost always about how to achieve it.

For example: Libs think it's kind and compassionate to indulge the delusions of transgender people. Conservatives think it's actually cruel to do that, and that real compassion is trying to guide such a person out of their confusion, not affirm it. Libs compare this to "conversion therapy", understandably. However conservatives view transgender ideology as just a different form of conversion therapy ("No no, my son isn't gay, he's just secretly a girl!"). So they both care about the wellbeing of this person and want to help them, they just disagree about what constitutes "help".

Neither side is just a bunch of sociopaths. Genuine sociopaths are exceedingly rare.
Actual sociopaths are remarkably common actually. An estimated 1 in 10 people have legit sociopathy. I think it’s becoming more common thanks to the current state of society

[unsunghero]

Certainly some people are more conservative when they're younger and become more liberal when they're older, it happens. It happens much more often in reverse though (libs becoming conservative).

Libs have simple, feel-good proposals that are often naive and impractical, like a kid or teenager often does. Conservatives often don't disagree with the goals of libs (depends on the topic); the disagreement is almost always about how to achieve it.

For example: Libs think it's kind and compassionate to indulge the delusions of transgender people. Conservatives think it's actually cruel to do that, and that real compassion is trying to guide such a person out of their confusion, not affirm it. Libs compare this to "conversion therapy", understandably. However conservatives view transgender ideology as just a different form of conversion therapy ("No no, my son isn't gay, he's just secretly a girl!"). So they both care about the wellbeing of this person and want to help them, they just disagree about what constitutes "help".

Neither side is just a bunch of sociopaths. Genuine sociopaths are exceedingly rare.

Regardless of anyone’s perceived cruelty, I find adhering to what someone wants to be called just easier than deliberately not doing so to their face. I would have to force the not adhering and doing so would make me personally feel uncomfortable. But that’s just me. I COULD do it, if doing it alone would “cure” them, but we know it wouldn’t let’s be honest

I also agree that libs in other areas have usually just a blanket “help everyone always” policy that just isn’t fiscally conservative considering limited resources and creates more problems in the long run. An example would be wanting to help illegals, which encourages more to come, wanting to give literally everyone free health insurance, which I would also want if it were financially possible, and we disagree on the possible part. Stuff like that

[unsunghero]

Let's go Brandon. I agree.

[Gravydoo II]

ran from a DNA test proving his innocence - you mean a jury found him not guilty?

oh, you mean he wasnt brought to court? no charges files?

26 accusations do lie when pocketbooks are being filled with riches.

I havent had respect for the US judicial system since they let OJ off. And never will. God damn it all.
Only reason he got off was because his football playing ass was lucky enough to be sworn in to the Illuminati.
LAPD fucked up the crime scene on purpose to let him off. Freemasons are brothers in crime. Any who squeal die. Many (stars) die who dont squeal.
They are called BLOOD sacrifices.


What are you talking about? You think they all got the illegal stormey daniels treatment? Theres no way one of them is telling the truth, huh? But epstein, he was guilty.. never found guilty in court of anything having to do with under age girls or abusing them, just soliciting a pro.

So epstein is guilty, you know he did it, but hes never been found guilty in court. The rich guy with goons and thugs working for him, michael cohen even admitted he threatened the women who came forward to accuse your rape daddy.

I guess running like a pussy ass guilty bitch from a DNA test which would absolve you of everything is typical of rapist. A man with nothing to fear wouldnt run, for years, from a woman's accusation.

If she was wrong, why doesnt he sue her for slander and calling him a RAPIST??

[Gravydoo II]

lol dude you are so low IQ

it's impossible to run from a DNA test. if there was actually a case against him, the cops ould just shadow him until he tossed a cup away he had been drinking from and they would legally have obtained his DNA

folks like you still believe the russia hoax was legit cuz you watch cnn and eat bugs


Remember when you were all about the audits or was that before this account? You said the audits would fix all of it, remember? What happened to your audits?

At least with the russia thing, we all know it happened because you keep getting defensive about it and bringing it up. You fill the silence with your insecurity. Weird how the nazis are still insecure about their rape daddies Presidency*.

[Ooloo]

Regardless of anyone’s perceived cruelty, I find adhering to what someone wants to be called just easier than deliberately not doing so to their face. I would have to force the not adhering and doing so would make me personally feel uncomfortable. But that’s just me. I COULD do it, if doing it alone would “cure” them, but we know it wouldn’t let’s be honest

I also agree that libs in other areas have usually just a blanket “help everyone always” policy that just isn’t fiscally conservative considering limited resources and creates more problems in the long run. An example would be wanting to help illegals, which encourages more to come, wanting to give literally everyone free health insurance, which I would also want if it were financially possible, and we disagree on the possible part. Stuff like that

Yeah pretty much this. I also wouldn't go out of my way to insult or belittle anyone to make some political dunk in polite society. That's just outright cruelty that anyone can recognize. But making it an actual crime not to participate in their subjective internal experience is a bridge way too far. Which is funny cause that's all jordan peterson was ever objecting to, and the left now views him as like transphobe hitler.

[Gravydoo II]

Im starting an illegal abortion clinic in TX, 10k per body. You know women only come when they are literally seconds from their water breaking to get rid of the baby, according to these right wingers. As long as it hasent gulped its first breath, its still just matter to me. I seriously cant tell the difference between a jelly fish and a baby thats 1 second from being born, according to the right. Just looks like a pile of goo to me, better vacuum it up. Cause thats how abortions work, according to what ive heard from the right.

Congrats, you just exploded the growth of an industry you HATE with your idiotic need to control a womans choices.

Oh and watch as Jordan Xanexson is destroyed by his own bullshit. There it is. Women should be assigned to men by the state. https://youtu.be/iLoDX1HheFY?t=488

[Ooloo]

I just thought of a really nerdy analogy when it comes to the trans debate and I think it's funny so I'm gonna post it:

Allowing biological men to compete in biological female sports leagues would be like allowing people to submit TAS speedruns to the non-TAS category of GDQ; they are separate for a reason, but that doesn't mean you hate TAS or non-TAS speedruns.

Everyone get it now?

[Ooloo]

Im starting an illegal abortion clinic in TX, 10k per body. You know women only come when they are literally seconds from their water breaking to get rid of the baby, according to these right wingers. As long as it hasent gulped its first breath, its still just matter to me. I seriously cant tell the difference between a jelly fish and a baby thats 1 second from being born, according to the right. Just looks like a pile of goo to me, better vacuum it up. Cause thats how abortions work, according to what ive heard from the right.

Congrats, you just exploded the growth of an industry you HATE with your idiotic need to control a womans choices.

Making a thing illegal makes it MORE common? Really? I had no idea. Seems like it would be the opposite.

If you make abortion illegal, some women who might otherwise have killed their child won't do it. But not a single woman who *wouldn't* have killed her child if it were legal is going to say "Hey know what I really wanna do? Get an ILLEGAL abortion!!".

So in other words you have no point and no case.

[Elizondo]

Remember when you were all about the audits or was that before this account? You said the audits would fix all of it, remember? What happened to your audits?

At least with the russia thing, we all know it happened because you keep getting defensive about it and bringing it up. You fill the silence with your insecurity. Weird how the nazis are still insecure about their rape daddies Presidency*.

bro you just projectin cuz you mentally ill

bugs rottin your brain

[Horza]

Making a thing illegal makes it MORE common? Really? I had no idea. Seems like it would be the opposite.

Did you never hear about the country's failed war on drugs during one of your regular Tucker marathons?

[unsunghero]

Did you never hear about the country's failed war on drugs during one of your regular Tucker marathons?

This is interesting because the clinical model for families of individuals who are addicted to hard drugs is to make it as inconvenient to use as possible. You’ll never hear a good substance abuse counselor tell a family member “yknow what? Give up. He’s gonna do what he’s gonna do and there’s nothing you can do to prevent it” They’ll suggest things like setting boundaries designed to make it harder to use. Because to do the opposite whether that’s doing nothing or making it EASIER to use will have a near 100% failure rate in terms of their sobriety

Yet for some reason when applied to a population at large politicians (guided by experts in the mental health field supposedly) choose to do the opposite

Now, this does NOT apply to the clean needle policies. They sound fucked up, but the reverse also has a 100% failure rate in terms of creating sobriety. There isn’t a single heroin addict anywhere who will decide to not use and instead suffer withdrawal because his needle is old and dirty. What he will do is give himself HEP C, AIDS, and MRSA. Now a sociopathic person might think “which will kill him and solve the problem”, but that’s not true. They are entitled to through Medicaid medical coverage when they have no income. This means they will be hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars drain on the healthcare system due to the blood borne pathogens they give themselves

And it’s fun to see Horza act like he cares about drug users when he just laughed at one a few pages back. Fake internet troll bot is fake

[Horza]

Sorry about your Youtube daddy being a hypocrite and a pillhead.

[unsunghero]

Sorry about your Youtube daddy being a hypocrite and a pillhead.

He has a PhD, you didn’t go to college

He’s a multi millionaire, you’re unemployed

He could lose half his brain and still be twice as smart (and empathetic too, as we are discovering) as you

[Ooloo]

Did you never hear about the country's failed war on drugs during one of your regular Tucker marathons?

Yes it's as if addictive drugs, which people proactively seek, are a different subject entirely!

No woman gets pregnant on purpose so she can get an abortion for fun or something. I mean, given the extreme rhetoric of the left that might eventually actually be a thing, but the war on drugs is an absolutely retarded comparison to make.

Like gee guys, the war on drugs failed so let's call off this whole war on murder thing. Murder should be legal cause people are gonna do it anyway! This is your moronic logic.

[Horza]

He could lose half his brain and still be twice as smart (and empathetic too, as we are discovering) as you

What do you mean by could lose half his brain? He already did.

[unsunghero]

What do you mean by could lose half his brain? He already did.

Yes Horza

I could reiterate the original point which makes him still twice as smart as you but it appears you’re not understanding. Which lends some credence to the point

[Horza]

Yes it's as if addictive drugs, which people proactively seek, are a different subject entirely!

No woman gets pregnant on purpose so she can get an abortion for fun or something. I mean, given the extreme rhetoric of the left that might eventually actually be a thing, but the war on drugs is an absolutely retarded comparison to make.

Like gee guys, the war on drugs failed so let's call off this whole war on murder thing. Murder should be legal cause people are gonna do it anyway! This is your moronic logic.

A war on murder is certainly one way to try and rebrand being pro-life :p

[Ooloo]

A war on murder is certainly one way to try and rebrand being pro-life :p

Um yeah, it is. That's the point. Pro-life means you view abortion as murder. I'm glad you understand.

You presumably don't view it as murder, and if you weren't a troll AI I'd ask you to explain why but I already know you can't or won't. :p

[Reiwa]

But epstein, he was guilty.. never found guilty in court of anything having to do with under age girls or abusing them, just soliciting a pro.


Dude, what?

This means they will be hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars drain on the healthcare system due to the blood borne pathogens they give themselves


https://i.imgur.com/5ke2YBc.gif

[Horza]

lol troll AI guess calling Daddy Peterson a retarded junkie hit a little too close to home.

[Ooloo]

lol troll AI guess calling Daddy Peterson a retarded junkie hit a little too close to home.

No you're just like totally wrong all the time and predictably don't respond to specific things. Like I can make a post, and predict exactly which part of it you'll ignore and which part you'll quip about. It's really easy.

[unsunghero]

lol troll AI guess calling Daddy Peterson a retarded junkie hit a little too close to home.

Meanwhile Horza’s idol the president’s son is doing meth and banging underage prostitutes while his dad is trying to be a political figure with a good image

But it’s JP that’s dumb

[Botten]

No … like totally wrong all the time and predictably don't respond to specific things. Like I can make a post, and predict exactly which part of it you'll ignore and which part you'll quip about. It's really ...

Then predict this, GOP are turning against Trumptard voters and rightfully so. You are insane!

Republican Adam Kinzinger Describes GOP as 'Unrecognizable,' Says Trump 'Basically Insane' (https://www.newsweek.com/republican-adam-kinzinger-describes-gop-unrecognizable-says-trump-basically-insane-1667218)

Trumptards use to rave about the findings from stupid cyber ninjas. Even you.

MAGA Audit Fans Turn on Cyber Ninjas After Court Ruling (https://www.thedailybeast.com/cyber-ninjas-attacked-by-maga-audit-fans-after-court-ruling)

One even complaining: “FAKES,” complained one member of an Arizona audit channel. “SOAB [son of a bitch], all they care about is $.”

[Jibartik]

Did you never hear about the country's failed war on drugs during one of your regular Tucker marathons?

There is substantially more marjauana consumption in legal states and alcohol than during prohibition.

Ironically, unlike prohibition, there is substantially more crime due to legal marjauana than before. So that's kind of interesting.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2021/12/19/mexican-drug-cartels-move-in-on-californias-shadow-marijuana-industry/8960873002/

[Jibartik]

Then predict this, GOP are turning against Trumptard voters and rightfully so. You are insane!

Republican Adam Kinzinger Describes GOP as 'Unrecognizable,' Says Trump 'Basically Insane' (https://www.newsweek.com/republican-adam-kinzinger-describes-gop-unrecognizable-says-trump-basically-insane-1667218)

Trumptards use to rave about the findings from stupid cyber ninjas. Even you.

MAGA Audit Fans Turn on Cyber Ninjas After Court Ruling (https://www.thedailybeast.com/cyber-ninjas-attacked-by-maga-audit-fans-after-court-ruling)

One even complaining: “FAKES,” complained one member of an Arizona audit channel. “SOAB [son of a bitch], all they care about is $.”

dont take this the wrong way but this post reads like a former republican who became a democrat, who is upset about how his old party became woke.

[unsunghero]

There is substantially more marjauana consumption in legal states and alcohol than during prohibition.

Ironically, unlike prohibition, there is substantially more crime due to legal marjauana than before. So that's kind of interesting.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2021/12/19/mexican-drug-cartels-move-in-on-californias-shadow-marijuana-industry/8960873002/

I’ve always said my fix is forced drug rehabilitation under 1 of 2 circumstances:

1. As a consequence for drug-related crime. Not the crime of using the drug, but peripheral crime such as stealing, assault while intoxicated, etc

Or

2. If a medical professional can convince a judge that the person is putting their own life at risk due to use of the drug, such as having to be revived with Narcan for example

[Horza]

Jib: The GOP is woke now, bro.

Also Jib: States must be forced by the courts to prohibit recreational marijuana.

[Ooloo]

Then predict this, GOP are turning against Trumptard voters and rightfully so. You are insane!

Republican Adam Kinzinger Describes GOP as 'Unrecognizable,' Says Trump 'Basically Insane' (https://www.newsweek.com/republican-adam-kinzinger-describes-gop-unrecognizable-says-trump-basically-insane-1667218)

Trumptards use to rave about the findings from stupid cyber ninjas. Even you.

MAGA Audit Fans Turn on Cyber Ninjas After Court Ruling (https://www.thedailybeast.com/cyber-ninjas-attacked-by-maga-audit-fans-after-court-ruling)

One even complaining: “FAKES,” complained one member of an Arizona audit channel. “SOAB [son of a bitch], all they care about is $.”

Fine, good, I don't give a shit about donald trump. You doofuses never understand this. It is possible to oppose the left without supporting trump, although I do support things that happened under his administration. I don't credit any kind of political genius to him for those things, he has a cabinet like anyone else, but several good things did happen under his administration, as much as it pains people to admit.

What good has happened under biden? And I'm not just shifting covid blame to him, I think that's underhanded and slimy. It's not trump's fault and it's also not biden's fault how a country of 330 million people responds to a pandemic. It's just that biden *campaigned* on how terrible trump is at it and how great he is, but he's doing even worse, so yes people are gonna shove that in his face.

You have to just support the dark horse at some point, when every dependable party lets you down. That was the appeal of trump I think, and it's also now the appeal of anyone who isn't named Joe Biden.

[unsunghero]

Speaking of drugs, I just left the Weed Store and apparently I accidentally asked for the wrong thing when I asked for “sour gummies”. The staff member said “sir, we can’t sell sour gummies or gummy worms because we are not allowed to sell any edible that looks like a candy a child could want”. To which I replied, I just want to get what I got last time

“Oh the peach rings? Sure thing”. As she handed them to me I said “uhh doesn’t this also look like candy?” And she just stared at me. “Never mind” I said…

[Botten]

Fine, good, I don't give a shit about donald trump. You doofuses never understand this. It is possible to oppose the left without supporting trump, although I do support things that happened under his administration. I don't credit any kind of political genius to him for those things, he has a cabinet like anyone else, but several good things did happen under his administration, as much as it pains people to admit.

What good has happened under biden? And I'm not just shifting covid blame to him, I think that's underhanded and slimy. It's not trump's fault and it's also not biden's fault how a country of 330 million people responds to a pandemic. It's just that biden *campaigned* on how terrible trump is at it and how great he is, but he's doing even worse, so yes people are gonna shove that in his face.

You have to just support the dark horse at some point, when every dependable party lets you down. That was the appeal of trump I think, and it's also now the appeal of anyone who isn't named Joe Biden.

Backing down? You going turn coat on Trump too now? Typical GOP. Please now ask for another due over in another presidential race; GOP are predictable.

Classy by the way. You gave no example as to what you liked from Trump admin but you also don’t want to acknowledge Biden accomplishment.

And already explained that the Democrats had their little pandemic in more than 47 states and handled it. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3406634#post3406634) But the Trump administration, namely Jared, thought it didn’t matter to do anything because at the time it was only affecting blue states.

Have some shame you Trump supporter turn coat.

[Elizondo]

Joey worst prez ever

bug eaters still obsessed with orange super prez

[Jibartik]

Jib: The GOP is woke now, bro.

Also Jib: States must be forced by the courts to prohibit recreational marijuana.

sorry they just dont make em like Liz Chaney anymore.

[Homesteaded]

Liberals set up these narratives where their opponents have no choice.

Turn your back on Trump: “Typical spineless GOP”

Stay loyal to trump: “boot licker”

They do this with all issues. They are not smart people.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Joey worst prez ever

bug eaters still obsessed with orange super prez

Can’t wait til they all start having heart attacks from the stress of trump winning 2024 coupled with the severe cardiopulmonary issues caused by the totally safe and super effective vaccines they’ve been butt chugging every 4 months

[Ooloo]

Speaking of drugs, I just left the Weed Store and apparently I accidentally asked for the wrong thing when I asked for “sour gummies”. The staff member said “sir, we can’t sell sour gummies or gummy worms because we are not allowed to sell any edible that looks like a candy a child could want”. To which I replied, I just want to get what I got last time

“Oh the peach rings? Sure thing”. As she handed them to me I said “uhh doesn’t this also look like candy?” And she just stared at me. “Never mind” I said…

I never understand the gummies thing. Like, do they have to make them look *exactly* like the normal version of the same candy? I consider myself a weed expert so I understand how unpleasant a surprise too-strong high can be, and it's like they are going out of their way to ensure kids accidentally experience that.

Like maybe make them in the shape of a gigantic pot leaf instead of making them look exactly like normal candy peach rings?

[Gravydoo II]

Thats just retarded... "theres more crime since weed is now legal" i dont think thats how it works.

Theres more crime not that theres more pollution in the air, too. It must be related, interesting.
Theres more crime since rape daddy was elected. Interesting, must be related.
Theres more crime the closer to the year 2050 we become, it must be related. Interesting.

Turns out making up dumb shit is pretty easy. <3

[Gravydoo II]

Can’t wait til they all start having heart attacks from the stress of trump winning 2024 coupled with the severe cardiopulmonary issues caused by the totally safe and super effective vaccines they’ve been butt chugging every 4 months

Is that what they made you do? Anal sex? Who stuck their dick inside your anus and said it was a vaccine..? You need to get off here and call the police. You've been raped. Who gave you a vaccine in your anus?

[Ooloo]

Gravy good lord man, I hope you're okay. You seem genuinely crazy, and we all do from time to time, but I'm concerned.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Is that what they made you do? Anal sex? Who stuck their dick inside your anus and said it was a vaccine..? You need to get off here and call the police. You've been raped. Who gave you a vaccine in your anus?

I opted to not take the soyim sissification RNA shot. I have an immune system. I’ve actually had covid and it was basically a very mild cold

Or maybe it was just a mild cold, covid was made up as a method of control and financial consolidation, and the tests just say positive sometimes

[F0rmsh1fter]

Sounds like gravy got poked and is stressed out about his imminent heart attack like all those super healthy soccer players that are dropping dead in their 20s with easily the best cardio health in the world

[Elizondo]

Horza confirmed unjabbed cuz he's a big pussy and a hypocrite

[unsunghero]

I never understand the gummies thing. Like, do they have to make them look *exactly* like the normal version of the same candy? I consider myself a weed expert so I understand how unpleasant a surprise too-strong high can be, and it's like they are going out of their way to ensure kids accidentally experience that.

Like maybe make them in the shape of a gigantic pot leaf instead of making them look exactly like normal candy peach rings?

Exactly. Make them look like a piece of human shit, IDC. I put down nasty protein shakes with no sugar or carbs with water that taste like ass on the daily, I can eat or drink pretty much anything

Those very candy-like peach rings that are are apparently not enough like candy to attract kids to eat it are also 25mg per. If a kid or even an adult ate an entire one they would have a bad time for the next few hours. Those are just the best value, I do less than 1/5 per time. I also get the “infused” kind which have the THC infused in the gummy and not applied after it’s baked, which makes the dosing completely reliable for the size of the bite. You probably know, but the reason edibles used to be so random in how they hit was because without being infused you can have all the THC on one corner potentially

But infused is more expensive. And all I do are edibles obv. Smoke in the lungs is poison :)

[Gravydoo II]

I opted to not take the soyim sissification RNA shot. I have an immune system. I’ve actually had covid and it was basically a very mild cold

Or maybe it was just a mild cold, covid was made up as a method of control and financial consolidation, and the tests just say positive sometimes

See when they make jokes about the gay stuff, it gives them permission to think about gay things. Cause its just a joke, see? So imagining all the men on this forum having a vaccine given rectally is about the gayest thing ive ever heard in my life. Congrats on coming out though.

[Homesteaded]

Gravy good lord man, I hope you're okay. You seem genuinely crazy, and we all do from time to time, but I'm concerned.

[Gravydoo II]

Sounds like gravy got poked and is stressed out about his imminent heart attack like all those super healthy soccer players that are dropping dead in their 20s with easily the best cardio health in the world

Nah. Took 20 shots in the arms in the military. Inoculated for all kinds of shit I dont even understand. Still not dead. Still not a pussy like you, either. When you live in fear of everything, thats called being a pussy ass bitch. My dad didnt raise me to be a pussy ass bitch because he wasnt one either.

Wanna hear something funny? Nothing happens if I get vaccinated. You lose the respect of all your peers and family if you do!

Then you lose them anyways when you die or they die!

You're between facing down a virus you cant beat and dont understand and losing the small group of pussies you hit the glory holes with. LOLOLOLOL

Dont get vaccinated. I dont give a shit if you die. Just do it on your own in a parking lot. Dont go out like a pussy, grasping for everyone around you screaming its not real.

[Gravydoo II]

Look how much the rest of the world gives a shit about you...

https://fortune.com/2022/01/06/france-italy-covid-vaccine-mandates-unvaccinated-piss-off/

Look how mad they are. They are not even humans at all, the unvaxxed. Just morlocks, sewer folk, and urchins really. So fucking filthy, and untouchable, disease ridden daltis. Stay below the streets where you belong.

As soon as they get sick though, they rush to the ER OMG im dying! save me! save me!
"Are you vaccinated?"
"no"
"So you could have prevented this and saved everyone all this time, risk, and stopped other patients from being treated?"
"yes"

Doctors are sick of you idiots. They are quitting in droves because they dont want to deal with you retards. Nice job. Way to hurt the good ole USA.

[Elizondo]

Look how much the rest of the world gives a shit about you...

https://fortune.com/2022/01/06/france-italy-covid-vaccine-mandates-unvaccinated-piss-off/

Look how mad they are. They are not even humans at all, the unvaxxed. Just morlocks, sewer folk, and urchins really. So fucking filthy, and untouchable, disease ridden daltis. Stay below the streets where you belong.

As soon as they get sick though, they rush to the ER OMG im dying! save me! save me!
"Are you vaccinated?"
"no"
"So you could have prevented this and saved everyone all this time, risk, and stopped other patients from being treated?"
"yes"

Doctors are sick of you idiots. They are quitting in droves because they dont want to deal with you retards. Nice job. Way to hurt the good ole USA.

Unjabbed are stunning and brave and their dna remains untainted

you just an intolerant bigot

[Gravydoo II]

You're right. I was on the CBR team for my repair locker in the military. I was the guy who held the shotgun while the medic checked your eyeballs to see if you were too far gone to be saved. If you didnt cooperate and insisted on trying to infect more of the crew by running away or something silly...

If you cooperate, then you'll escorted down to the freezer to succumb to your illness behind a locked door with the rest of the unlucky, unvaccinated, and uncooperative corpses.

So yeah, you could say im no better than anyone trained in CBR by the DOD.

Could just be im not a selfish prick and dont put up with selfish pricks..

Weird how this is OK for the entire DOD but not for me.

[Elizondo]

You're right. I was on the CBR team for my repair locker in the military. I was the guy who held the shotgun while the medic checked your eyeballs to see if you were too far gone to be saved. If you didnt cooperate and insisted on trying to infect more of the crew by running away or something silly...

If you cooperate, then you'll escorted down to the freezer to succumb to your illness behind a locked door with the rest of the unlucky, unvaccinated, and uncooperative corpses.

So yeah, you could say im no better than anyone trained in CBR by the DOD.

Could just be im not a selfish prick and dont put up with selfish pricks..

Weird how this is OK for the entire DOD but not for me.

bro the vaxxed are spreading it everywhere too and it's just a mild cold at this point

you an intolerant bigot and low iq

[Homesteaded]

Nothing happens if I get vaccinated.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Nah. Took 20 shots in the arms in the military. Inoculated for all kinds of shit I dont even understand. Still not dead. Still not a pussy like you, either. When you live in fear of everything, thats called being a pussy ass bitch. My dad didnt raise me to be a pussy ass bitch because he wasnt one either.

Wanna hear something funny? Nothing happens if I get vaccinated. You lose the respect of all your peers and family if you do!

Then you lose them anyways when you die or they die!

You're between facing down a virus you cant beat and dont understand and losing the small group of pussies you hit the glory holes with. LOLOLOLOL

Dont get vaccinated. I dont give a shit if you die. Just do it on your own in a parking lot. Dont go out like a pussy, grasping for everyone around you screaming its not real.
Imagine thinking covid will kill you if you’re not ancient, morbidly obese, or on chemo lmao

I bet you were a pog in the army or something and brag about being ex military without having ever seen combat

Are you ok buddy?

[Reiwa]

Also Jib: States must be forced by the courts to prohibit recreational marijuana.

Also known as federalism? :confused:

[Gravydoo II]

I was on CVN-68 for Westpac. Where were you deployed?

Nevermind, I almost forgot, you hate america and everything it stands for. Why would you ever serve in the military? lol That and you're afraid of vaccines loolololol

I rub it in your faces because you're the supposed to be the super patriots and im the communist socialist blm antifa guy but im a veteran and you're not..

[Elizondo]

I was on CVN-68 for Westpac. Where were you deployed?

Nevermind, I almost forgot, you hate america and everything it stands for. Why would you ever serve in the military? lol That and you're afraid of vaccines loolololol

I rub it in your faces because you're the supposed to be the super patriots and im the communist socialist blm antifa guy but im a veteran and you're not..

there have been a lot of intolerant bigot peepz like you in militaries throughout history that dehumanized folks like you're doing now. See WW2 Japan and Germany.

[Jibartik]

America is all about making others do the work for you, so not going to war is almost more patriotic than going.

[Gravydoo II]

I just threw up in my mouth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-zqfcPKa_g&ab_channel=TheMajorityReportw%2FSamSeder

[unsunghero]

..

[Horza]

Also known as federalism? :confused:

Federalism means you have to support the obviously failed war on drugs along with evangelical dumbasses? :confused:

[unsunghero]

Smarter than the average homeless person, which also makes him more insightful when it comes to drug abuse

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ZFzEW7_Q4

[unsunghero]

I’ll put a trigger warning on this one

Substance abuse triggers to use are real, and this Harvard Graduate Engineer is one of the smartest crack addicts around. But he is also high in this interview, so if anyone has any vulnerability to seeing that then do not watch. It’s also super long 30 min but I found some of it interesting

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLW_gr7sQgY

[Reiwa]

Federalism means you have to support the obviously failed war on drugs along with evangelical dumbasses? :confused:

no it means federal supremacy. the johnnies moved west!

[F0rmsh1fter]

Unironically giving trigger warnings YIKES

[Ooloo]

Smarter than the average homeless person, which also makes him more insightful when it comes to drug abuse

I've seen that exact video before, and I've also known and still know people addicted to heroin and opioids. So damn sad to see happen. That guy is about as grounded as you can be as an actively using homeless addict. You can so tell that he'd be a totally functioning, productive professional in some field if not for that shit.

Wants his dog and cat back :( ahhhh god you wanna help that guy but he's smart enough to know that if he doesn't help himself first it's never gonna stick.

Don't do drugs kids. Or certainly not opioids in any case. Booze is pretty awful too honestly.

[unsunghero]

I've seen that exact video before, and I've also known and still know people addicted to heroin and opioids. So damn sad to see happen. That guy is about as grounded as you can be as an actively using homeless addict. You can so tell that he'd be a totally functioning, productive professional in some field if not for that shit.

Wants his dog and cat back :( ahhhh god you wanna help that guy but he's smart enough to know that if he doesn't help himself first it's never gonna stick.

Don't do drugs kids. Or certainly not opioids in any case. Booze is pretty awful too honestly.

Yup and what is really telling from the interview is when he comments on how hard it is to kick the habit when it’s only a phone call away to get some and end the dopesick withdrawal sx’s

For many people, being detained in jail or prison DOES cause them to sober up. People always harp on how it’s possible to still get hard drugs in prison, sure it’s possible but I’ve talked a lot of people who had no interest in getting sober but did in prison or jail because they could not get to the drugs. Then when they were finally forced to get sober against their will, some discovered how better being sober feels and continued that for a while (not forever, let’s be real here, addiction is a lifelong struggle) afterwards. But for some it was a long while

I do not agree with sociopaths like Horza who thinks we should just throw our hands in the air, make all hard drugs as easy to buy as water, and let the addict’s slow suicides play out on our streets for everyone to watch. He’s one of the only people who would get enjoyment from that

[Knowledge]

Let's go Brandon. I agree.

[Reiwa]

I do not agree with sociopaths like Horza who thinks we should just throw our hands in the air, make all hard drugs as easy to buy as water, and let the addict’s slow suicides play out on our streets for everyone to watch.

I wonder if we could use OSHA's public health authority to mandate treatment?

Might as well try it while we're mandating other things. :p

[Gravydoo II]

Yup and what is really telling from the interview is when he comments on how hard it is to kick the habit when it’s only a phone call away to get some and end the dopesick withdrawal sx’s

For many people, being detained in jail or prison DOES cause them to sober up. People always harp on how it’s possible to still get hard drugs in prison, sure it’s possible but I’ve talked a lot of people who had no interest in getting sober but did in prison or jail because they could not get to the drugs. Then when they were finally forced to get sober against their will, some discovered how better being sober feels and continued that for a while (not forever, let’s be real here, addiction is a lifelong struggle) afterwards. But for some it was a long while

I do not agree with sociopaths like Horza who thinks we should just throw our hands in the air, make all hard drugs as easy to buy as water, and let the addict’s slow suicides play out on our streets for everyone to watch. He’s one of the only people who would get enjoyment from that

Cause thats exactly what happened in Portugal..
https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight

A 2015 study found that the social costs of drug use in Portugal fell 12% between 2000 and 2004, and 18% by 2010. While the former figure was largely driven by the reduction in drug-related deaths, the latter was linked to a ‘significant reduction’ in costs associated with criminal proceedings for drug offences and lost income of individuals imprisoned for these offences.


So yeah.. Decriminalizing leads to less drug use, less deaths, less court costs, faster court systems, a lot of shit changes. A LOT.

Did you even know that Portugal did this..? I guess that entire country is sociopaths or believes in actual freedom? Cause locking someone up for 20 years over growing a plant in their house doesnt sound like freedom to me.

[Horza]

Who needs evidence and well-researched studies when you have braindead Republicans endlessly parroting Fox News?

[unsunghero]

I wonder if we could use OSHA's public health authority to mandate treatment?

Might as well try it while we're mandating other things. :p

California has a involuntary committal process for substance abuse, if it at the point where it is going to kill the person. My state doesn’t though

While every state has a version of involuntary committal for mental health, few do for substance abuse, even though substance abuse is considered a mental health disorder

That’s why for my fix I mention there should be an involuntary committal process everywhere for substance abuse. It would be a miserable place to work though, still better than working at a correctional facility, slightly. But the people you are helping don’t want to be there at least initially so, tough place to work. But necessary IMO

[unsunghero]

Cause thats exactly what happened in Portugal..
https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight

A 2015 study found that the social costs of drug use in Portugal fell 12% between 2000 and 2004, and 18% by 2010. While the former figure was largely driven by the reduction in drug-related deaths, the latter was linked to a ‘significant reduction’ in costs associated with criminal proceedings for drug offences and lost income of individuals imprisoned for these offences.


So yeah.. Decriminalizing leads to less drug use, less deaths, less court costs, faster court systems, a lot of shit changes. A LOT.

Did you even know that Portugal did this..? I guess that entire country is sociopaths or believes in actual freedom? Cause locking someone up for 20 years over growing a plant in their house doesnt sound like freedom to me.

Decriminalizing is not treating. Someone still can continue to use heroin until it kills them. I do not see how decriminalizing leads to less overall drug use also

Fine for “social costs” and keeping legal fees down, not fine for the families watching their loved ones slowly kill themselves in front of them

[Reiwa]

Decriminalizing is not treating. Someone still can continue to use heroin until it kills them. I do not see how decriminalizing leads to less overall drug use also

Fine for “social costs” and keeping legal fees down, not fine for the families watching their loved ones slowly kill themselves in front of them

Cities seem to be fixing the problem with needle pogroms. :(

[Ooloo]

Know what other country has low drug abuse? Thailand. Where they give you the death penalty for possession.

Obviously that's a bit extreme, but this notion that legalizing drugs will somehow lower rates of their use is so completely ass backward and stupid.

(Just like the notion that outlawing abortions would cause more abortions to occur, which is how this whole dumb comparison got started).

[unsunghero]

Cities seem to be fixing the problem with needle pogroms. :(

Ya, it’s just a fix to the blood-borne pathogens, not a fix to the disorder

Forced treatment gets into an ethical area and is very debatable and controversial

For example, why should we have forced treatment for heroin abuse but not for just being morbidly obese

What about people like Nicocado Avocado who make millions of dollars literally killing themselves by gorging on food? He’s gained like 200lbs in a few years and at the rate he’s going he’ll be dead in the next decade

And the messed up thing about it is he wears a shirt that says “It’s your fault”. And it’s true. His viewers support is partly what is killing him, by proxy

[Ooloo]

Wow wtf, the internet is horrible.

However I will say that I've gotten many great laughs from that LA Beast guy who attempts to competitively eat things and often fails and violently projectile vomits everywhere. It's just so dumb and pointless it always makes me laugh when he starts puking. Like what the hell are you doing?

[unsunghero]

Wow wtf, the internet is horrible.

However I will say that I've gotten many great laughs from that LA Beast guy who attempts to competitively eat things and often fails and violently projectile vomits everywhere. It's just so dumb and pointless it always makes me laugh when he starts puking. Like what the hell are you doing?

Ya the way progressives act about those with wealth, I feel that way about competitive eaters and mukbangers (binge eating on camera for views)

There are people starving to death in other parts of the world and these people are gorging themselves until their stomach almost explodes and they throw up. Gluttony is a sin for a reason

I don’t even feel the same way about personal wealth because at least that can improve your health, life and the lives of others. There is no benefit to your health by gorging yourself on food, and it is very disrespectful to those that don’t have it. It’s just a complete waste of perfectly good food

Surprisingly mukbang videos being done by bodybuilders (they call it stuff like “10,000 calorie epic cheat day”) is a bigger and bigger trend in the fitness community. It’s fucked up

[Ooloo]

Yeah and it's also mind-boggling to think about how much good food just goes to waste in grocerie stores because it doesn't sell in time. Somebody once told me grocerie stores will throw away food and cover in bleach or something so that the homeless don't dig through their dumpsters. That seems so criminal I have a hard time believing it's actually true.

Progressives hating those with wealth out of some supposed concern for the poor never makes sense to me. If poor people are no longer poor, and are able to start a business that ends up being successful, they are now an evil rich person. Exactly how much money do you have to make to transition from noble poor to evil rich guy? There's no consistency to who or what they claim to oppose. Elon Musk is doing more for humanity than an entire generation combined and all Elizabeth Warren can do is bitch about how much money he has. Like maybe if anyone earned it, he did? It's just pure envy and jealousy masquerading as concern for the poor.

[Reiwa]

Yeah and it's also mind-boggling to think about how much good food just goes to waste in grocerie stores because it doesn't sell in time. Somebody once told me grocerie stores will throw away food and cover in bleach or something so that the homeless don't dig through their dumpsters. That seems so criminal I have a hard time believing it's actually true.

I think it's a liability issue. They can get sued for not putting a stop to it somehow, if someone gets sick.

https://i.imgur.com/frtmHtF.gif

[Ooloo]

I think it's a liability issue. They can get sued for not putting a stop to it somehow, if someone gets sick.

https://i.imgur.com/frtmHtF.gif

Yeah, I figured as much. See, with a topic like that I can totally get on board with the libs. That's such an outrageous waste of good food that other people don't have. Still, I'm sure that's occured to people before so there's probably a litany of reasons why it's just not practical to somehow repurpose all that food so they just flush it down the shitter.

[unsunghero]

Yeah and it's also mind-boggling to think about how much good food just goes to waste in grocerie stores because it doesn't sell in time. Somebody once told me grocerie stores will throw away food and cover in bleach or something so that the homeless don't dig through their dumpsters. That seems so criminal I have a hard time believing it's actually true.

Progressives hating those with wealth out of some supposed concern for the poor never makes sense to me. If poor people are no longer poor, and are able to start a business that ends up being successful, they are now an evil rich person. Exactly how much money do you have to make to transition from noble poor to evil rich guy? There's no consistency to who or what they claim to oppose. Elon Musk is doing more for humanity than an entire generation combined and all Elizabeth Warren can do is bitch about how much money he has. Like maybe if anyone earned it, he did? It's just pure envy and jealousy masquerading as concern for the poor.

Ya my cousin who used to work at a Village Inn told me they were instructed to pour paint over the food before they threw it out to discourage dumpster diving

And my favorite part of my job when I used to work at Sports Authority as an 18 year old was when I was instructed to throw out old models of various things we could no longer sell (didn’t even have a SKU# in the computer anymore). My manager would tell me “be sure to break it all first”. So I would be getting paid to tomahawk throw equipment into the back wall outside as hard as I could. It was then that I learned how high you need to heave a bowling ball in the air to get it to break, and what they look like on the inside (kind of like concrete if I remember right)

Nowadays I think a lot of restaurants and grocers have deals with food banks to donate old food. But not sure, havent talked to anyone in the food biz about it for a while

And yeah, personal wealth is a problem only when it’s not the champagne socialists like Hasan Piker, who came under some heat for buying a multi-million dollar home in LA despite being a socialist. He said that’s just what homes in LA cost. He doesn’t have to live in LA, and he doesn’t have to live way beyond a comfortable living, he chooses to just like all the greedy capitalists he hates. Maybe he does donate to the less fortunate but I highly doubt it

[Ooloo]

Haha oh guaranteed he doesn't. Hasan sucks. Even if he does, it would be the only good thing he's ever done. Dude used to be a male model and has all the intellect you'd expect of one. Total ignoramus with a smug, self-assured sense of moral superiority as he acts completely awful in his day to day life, like most annoying progressives do. Yeah I don't like him.

[Jibartik]

Foodsco: "we cant just give the food away, someone might sue us!"

americans: "sounds good to me!" *votes democrat.

[starkind]

Foodsco: "we cant just give the food away, someone might sue us!"

americans: "sounds good to me!" *votes democrat.

https://i.imgur.com/NirCh2r.gif

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/NirCh2r.gif

This is a metaphor for catching covid without a vaccine.

ITS THE GOD DAMN PRINCPAL ILL EAT A GOD DAMN RAT IF I HAVE TO

[unsunghero]

This is a metaphor for catching covid without a vaccine.

ITS THE GOD DAMN PRINCPAL ILL EAT A GOD DAMN RAT IF I HAVE TO

If I was starving, I’d be willing to eat just about anything. And I eat all the time, which is why I warn hiking buddies that if we get lost in the woods…after about 3 or so hours we’re going to need to start having some difficult conservations. Mostly me asking ok who here is feeling the most tired and sick and close to death

I could tots eat a person if I had to. You start at the butt, that’s where all the meat is. I saw the movie Alive, I know how it’s done

[Jibartik]

these people are not starving, they dont want to use the 3 sea shells (take the vax)

[starkind]

net7t1HjQxY

[Gravydoo II]

Decriminalizing is not treating. Someone still can continue to use heroin until it kills them. I do not see how decriminalizing leads to less overall drug use also

Fine for “social costs” and keeping legal fees down, not fine for the families watching their loved ones slowly kill themselves in front of them

You didnt read it, at all. The whole thing is right there. You cant treat someone for drug addiction while they are in prison. You cant even treat someone unless they want to be treated. Thats the point, drug use went down. Addicts got treatment because they didnt have to fear authorities. Less people die because they can go get their shit tested, too. Then get themselves tested. You dont see the good in it because you were told not to. I understand, the propaganda is strong. Americas approach to the "war" on its own people i mean "drugs" cant be wrong. We need tanks in the streets for these dope dealers! lol

[Trexller]

well then.... what are we gonna use to fill our for-profit prisons with minorities?

[Homesteaded]

I have tried the lasagna, it's terrible.

[unsunghero]

You didnt read it, at all. The whole thing is right there. You cant treat someone for drug addiction while they are in prison. You cant even treat someone unless they want to be treated. Thats the point, drug use went down. Addicts got treatment because they didnt have to fear authorities. Less people die because they can go get their shit tested, too. Then get themselves tested. You dont see the good in it because you were told not to. I understand, the propaganda is strong. Americas approach to the "war" on its own people i mean "drugs" cant be wrong. We need tanks in the streets for these dope dealers! lol

Uhhhh yes there is, in both

Jail: “In Jail. Substance abuse treatment includes detoxification, professional counseling, a residential stay, or maintenance drug programs. Other programs include Alcoholic Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), and other self-help groups, and drug or alcohol education or awareness”

Prison: “Some programs provide specialized treatment services, such as drug and alcohol counseling, sex offender counseling, psychiatric services, domestic violence counseling, family counseling, vocational and employment counseling (including job referrals), and life skills education”

I have co-workers who are masters level licensed counselors who work in the correction system providing counseling to inmates


Know what there also is in prison? Extreme violence sometimes. It’s not a good environment. Which is why forced rehab is better. Still will be the occasional fight, because you have cranky people possibly withdrawing with possible underlying mental health conditions. There’s gonna be drama. Still better than watching them kill themselves on the street

[unsunghero]

If you want to use hard drugs with my setup you can as much as Gravy wants you to, you just can’t cause peripheral crime like theft or assault while intoxicated or almost kill yourself

Then you get forced treatment. Keep your shit together and you can do as much heroin as you want and avoid it

[Jibartik]

"those definitely are not chemtrails"

"we should give people heroin"

[starkind]

I have tried the lasagna, it's terrible.

Tbh. About the only thing I can stomach anymore is my own home made eggplant parmesan. It's like the only Italian food I can still digest. Lasagna is way too thick with all the other cheeses and layers of noodles. Always makes me sick.

[Gravydoo II]

Uhhhh yes there is, in both

Jail: “In Jail. Substance abuse treatment includes detoxification, professional counseling, a residential stay, or maintenance drug programs. Other programs include Alcoholic Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), and other self-help groups, and drug or alcohol education or awareness”

Prison: “Some programs provide specialized treatment services, such as drug and alcohol counseling, sex offender counseling, psychiatric services, domestic violence counseling, family counseling, vocational and employment counseling (including job referrals), and life skills education”

I have co-workers who are masters level licensed counselors who work in the correction system providing counseling to inmates


Know what there also is in prison? Extreme violence sometimes. It’s not a good environment. Which is why forced rehab is better. Still will be the occasional fight, because you have cranky people possibly withdrawing with possible underlying mental health conditions. There’s gonna be drama. Still better than watching them kill themselves on the street


In Portugal? They are "master level" in Portugal? Cause we're not talking about your made up friends with no names. We're talking about Portugal. You've got it all wrong. Thats retarded to compare the american prison system to a place where you wouldnt be in prison in the first place, dumb ass. Dumb as fuck... My god you're a fucking retard. I should have known.

[Ooloo]

Yeah you won't be in prison in Portugal, you'll be dead on the street from the heroin addiction you wouldn't otherwise have if you hadn't tried it on a whim cause you saw it on sale at CVS. You're still not making any coherent argument for full on legalization.

Alcohol already IS legal and many many many people still end up ruining their lives and losing everything because of it. The alcoholics on intervention are often worse than the junkies.

Pot legalization makes sense to me, even though conservatives often oppose even that. I don't, cause it's just a simple cost/benefit analysis. What's the cost to society of making a given drug widely available legally, and what are the benefits? With pot, there's little cost and a lot of potential benefit. With drugs that make grown men suck other men's dicks to get it, yeah you might not wanna sell that at the gas station.

[starkind]

TLDR:

drugs

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[Ooloo]

Portugal is also a bad example because it's the only case study you have. One country. Meanwhile in states with legal weed, use has gone way up. Luckily that's just weed.

Just because one study shows evidence of benefit in one country, with it's own particular culture and lifestyles and demographics, doesn't mean you should just slap that policy on every country on earth and it will do the same thing everywhere. Guaranteed that doesn't happen.