Love

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/ZDb506K.jpg

As for my present personal perspective. I feel terminally ill. No one should love a smelly motionless sedate corpse waiting to die and finally lose conciousness. That's not to say I'm worthless. I just feel beyond forming attachments and exploring love. Or risking hurting others because of where I am at in life stages right now. Seemingly closer to death than life. I know about relationships. Sharing interests. Learning about others. I think I've consumed too much romantic pop culture without really understanding or experiencing true love.

Anyway. I'm still curious.

Besides even if I could or really wanted to I don't think I could really return someones love, or even truly love them.

Unconditionally care a lot maybe. Not make there life a living hell maybe. My number one love language is to not be there at all.

I only love you guys a little bit. So I only stop posting for brief periods.

How does anyone else feel? Want to tell me how it works or what to think?

P.s. I already know about Lilith, sex, biology, reproduction, chemical love, addiction, obsession, lust, desire, vanity those are easy mode.

[magnetaress]

Oh this is a terrible post. I'm already really regretting it. At least there's that.

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Ya'll deserve better than this.

[Gravydoo II]

Not flying off the fucking handle over every little thing is love. You tolerate them, they tolerate you, forever. Or ill kill that bitch.... lol im kidding.

Seriously though, maybe back off the gas on this one. Love can be lots of things. I know I loved my dog more than most humans, but i wouldnt marry my dog. Find someone you like to chill with, someone you can just talk to freely. Find someone you can forgive and someone who can forgive you. We're all fucked up, especially the closet homo's from the desert of a state that sponsors terrorism. First thing though is feeling like you're worth it. Love yourself, yo. If your life is a wreck, have a laugh. Take pride in that pile up. We're all gonna die, go get some.

You could do all the things you said you're unsure of, if you tried. I fucking hate messy people. My gf is messy, yet I dont hate her. Its strange, love is. lol

[Jibartik]

Love is what quantumly connects two souls.

Once you and another soul find true love for each other, you become quantumly connected, when you die, you remain quantumly connected, with all the loved ones you have connected with throughout your lifetime.

Quantum connections are not absolute, and can break, so dont die hated and alone or you may drift through the black void that way.

I am pretty sure this might possibly be real but also made it up.

[Cecily]

Mag, I love you!

[magnetaress]

Not flying off the fucking handle over every little thing is love. You tolerate them, they tolerate you, forever. Or ill kill that bitch.... lol im kidding.

Seriously though, maybe back off the gas on this one. Love can be lots of things. I know I loved my dog more than most humans, but i wouldnt marry my dog. Find someone you like to chill with, someone you can just talk to freely. Find someone you can forgive and someone who can forgive you. We're all fucked up, especially the closet homo's from the desert of a state that sponsors terrorism. First thing though is feeling like you're worth it. Love yourself, yo. If your life is a wreck, have a laugh. Take pride in that pile up. We're all gonna die, go get some.

You could do all the things you said you're unsure of, if you tried. I fucking hate messy people. My gf is messy, yet I dont hate her. Its strange, love is. lol

Yeah. I agree. That's almost everyone.

Probably why Iove to post here.

I don't, didn't want to complain. I'm really sick though... how to even boundaries? Virtual online relationship only?

I like myself. Accept myself. I certainly dont hate myself. Maybe I'm a bit bored with myself and that is sorta externalized. Somehow.

I wish I had the real energy to go even sorta exploring the web for real or really engage with new random people. Maybe that is part of it. If I felt better, I'd be ready to put myself out there aside from this closeted little hermit hole.

I don't hate anyone. Even the people that have really hurt me. I even posted about that.. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378293)

Maybe I'm a really loving and caring human being and I just need to accept that and accept myself for how much of this spectral, unquantifieable everything love you speak of.

Love is what quantumly connects two souls.

Once you and another soul find true love for each other, you become quantumly connected, when you die, you remain quantumly connected, with all the loved ones you have connected with throughout your lifetime.

Quantum connections are not absolute, and can break, so dont die hated and alone or you may drift through the black void that way.

I am pretty sure this might possibly be real but also made it up.
This is dope.
Mag, I love you!
I love you too. Biiiiiig virtually massive hugs. Let's go to your quantum realms tho :)

[hobart]

https://i.imgur.com/ZDb506K.jpg

As for my present personal perspective. I feel terminally ill. No one should love a smelly motionless sedate corpse waiting to die and finally lose conciousness. That's not to say I'm worthless. I just feel beyond forming attachments and exploring love. Or risking hurting others because of where I am at in life stages right now. Seemingly closer to death than life. I know about relationships. Sharing interests. Learning about others. I think I've consumed too much romantic pop culture without really understanding or experiencing true love.

Anyway. I'm still curious.

Besides even if I could or really wanted to I don't think I could really return someones love, or even truly love them.

Unconditionally care a lot maybe. Not make there life a living hell maybe. My number one love language is to not be there at all.

I only love you guys a little bit. So I only stop posting for brief periods.

How does anyone else feel? Want to tell me how it works or what to think?

P.s. I already know about Lilith, sex, biology, reproduction, chemical love, addiction, obsession, lust, desire, vanity those are easy mode.

I'm sure you do some of this. If not, I bet you're smart enough to know it's right. I'll say it anyway...

Get up and go for a walk until you're tired. Move more every day but make sure you're tired at the end of the day. Your goal is to get a job -- any job.

Eat primarily lean meats and vegetables. It's not supposed to taste good, it's fuel.

Read and practice or listen to music for your entertainment.

Get out of your own head and stay out of it.

Log out. Never post or browse here again. We're not your friends. Go make some real ones.

And to repeat, stay out of your own head.

[Jibartik]

Like hobart for example, he will be now quantumly tied to these negative feelings, and will take them into eternity with him, spending that time in what we as humans would define as: hell.

[magnetaress]

I'm sure you do some of this. If not, I bet you're smart enough to know it's right. I'll say it anyway...

Get up and go for a walk until you're tired. Move more every day but make sure you're tired at the end of the day. Your goal is to get a job -- any job.

Eat primarily lean meats and vegetables. It's not supposed to taste good, it's fuel.

Read and practice or listen to music for your entertainment.

Get out of your own head and stay out of it.

Log out. Never post or browse here again. We're not your friends. Go make some real ones.

And to repeat, stay out of your own head.

You're absolutely right. I know you don't believe me, but aside from logging in here I follow all that advice. I don't get far, but I challenge myself every day. I used to be a real superstar athlete. So I have what it takes and I don't feel like giving up. I think that's important.

I am really sick. The forums do help because you are all familiar and my feelings aren't really hurt by how people are, feel around here. Another forum probably wouldn't be that much better.

Already got people here on speed dial if I wanted to spam them personally as well.

Like hobart for example, he will be now quantumly tied to these negative feelings, and will take them into eternity with him, spending that time in what we as humans would define as: hell.

I don't think he deserves hell. He seems genuinely to want to help, and care.

I don't expect people to love me. But maybe quantumly entanglement with me could be a good thing, or your last chance at redemption until you can entangle with more betterer people or something.

I would like to humbly say I am not super far up the quantum ladder to heaven. Even if I have powerful juju, divinity.

[Snortles Chortles]

We're not your friends.

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/ORKI0xL.jpg

I still talk to people who aren't my friends or even hate me. So what.

I really do care about you Snortles. Even if I don't like you. Or agree with you. Even though you hurt my feelings sometimes.

Doesn't mean I don't care.

I know what it's like bro. I know how you feel. Like I get it. I was a freekazoid creepo once. Still am sorta too. I'm not even going to tell you to change right now. But I like you some.

Its possible to have complex and nuanced and conflicting feelings towards people. I totally accept that you and Hobart aren't my friends.

[Knuckle]

Two things to consider, maybe you already have...

I'm pretty heavily invested in psychedelic therapy companies based on the Canada exchange right now, veterans and folks dealing with extreme clinical depression are usually great candidates to get some early access testing, i'd do some googling around to see if there is one you'd consider trialing.

Alkaline diets might help alot, I personally know people who have heavily reduced symptoms and in some cases cured life threatening illnesses by going to alkaline diet(heavily juiced vegetables, low/no meat, certain fruits)....

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/the-alkaline-diet-myth#what-it-is

Here is an article critical of the diet, I don't disagree with what they say, but then again, if science doesn't spend money to prove something, does that mean it doesn't work? Don't know as I am relatively healthy and have not had a need to consider a diet like this, but if I felt terminally ill I would consider some alternative options. From associates and family members that have gone through the ringer on conventional medicine, sometimes it just makes you feel worse to follow their regimes.

Not medical or therapy advice, I am not a professional, just some options that might be worth exploring.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3148612/

https://maps.org/participate/participate-in-research

[magnetaress]

Two things to consider, maybe you already have...

I'm pretty heavily invested in psychedelic therapy companies based on the Canada exchange right now, veterans and folks dealing with extreme clinical depression are usually great candidates to get some early access testing, i'd do some googling around to see if there is one you'd consider trialing.

Alkaline diets might help alot, I personally know people who have heavily reduced symptoms and in some cases cured life threatening illnesses by going to alkaline diet(heavily juiced vegetables, low/no meat, certain fruits)....

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/the-alkaline-diet-myth#what-it-is

Here is an article critical of the diet, I don't disagree with what they say, but then again, if science doesn't spend money to prove something, does that mean it doesn't work? Don't know as I am relatively healthy and have not had a need to consider a diet like this, but if I felt terminally ill I would consider some alternative options. From associates and family members that have gone through the ringer on conventional medicine, sometimes it just makes you feel worse to follow their regimes.

Not medical or therapy advice, I am not a professional, just some options that might be worth exploring.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3148612/

https://maps.org/participate/participate-in-research

I'm really interested in the diets, been doing that fruit, juice, vedge, low meat thing pretty hardcore. I will definitely check out the alkaline thing. For sure.

Not super interested in LSD but I may read up on that anyway.

[Gravydoo II]

has no friends =[

[Jibartik]

https://youtu.be/L2Brm4g4HPU

[Bearsnowls]

Find someone that has the same sense of humor you do & have lots in common with.

[Tunabros]

spends a considerable amount of time on elf forum

speaks in gibberish and random nonsense

won't shut up

that's Magnetaress for you

[Bardp1999]

If I ever win the lottery I will buy you an androgynous slave to fulfill your every whim and fancy Maerilith. Cheers to me winning

[imperiouskitten]

Love u too!!

If I ever win the lottery I will buy you an androgynous slave to fulfill your every whim and fancy Maerilith. Cheers to me winning

what a sweet post :)

[Knuckle]

I'm really interested in the diets, been doing that fruit, juice, vedge, low meat thing pretty hardcore. I will definitely check out the alkaline thing. For sure.

Not super interested in LSD but I may read up on that anyway.

Micro dosing is the approach to most of these psychedelics, think more of a mood shift and perspective opener, and less of intense body highs and visual stimulation.

Trials are coming in at different angles:

LSD
Psylocilibin(shrooms)
MDMA
Ayahuasca

The rest are derivatives or synthetics or even combinations.

The key reason I put my wallet behind these folks is I believe the microdose therapy in combination with the other more traditional methods is a huge advantage to helping people recover to a healthier mental state.

The ability for the mind to break out of negative and energy draining thought patterns often requires a kickstart and a small dose of mind-opening can definitely help with that. Also the fear of loss of control is mitigated by these mini doses.

An interesting subject to be sure, something to consider if things don't look up, I imagine you'd be an ace candidate with the swiss army knife of background stuff that can cause challenges in your life today.

[Nirgon]

Listen dawg you need to detrans and find some questing pals or another hobby. Probably find an exercise routine indoors while ya do it. Ain't a dig or personal. Don't touch LSD or whatever the hell is going on in here.

[imperiouskitten]

nirgon i never bothered following up to have you banned, keep your nasty presence and fetish obsession to the parts of the board for other incels and amputees actively playing EQ in 2021 plz or I will pursue. this aint ur hood and we dont know u. im letting u off because dark men of odus was funny.

if u wanna recommend some detransitions i can think of a few targets, but this 1 is missssapplied. And you are flat plain retarded if you think a third puberty, this time of T, would improve our girl's situation :p young doctor speaking.

Anyway, we both know u would miss this account. You don't have to dig deep to find many banned nerds. this gun is loaded.

You may make 1 more post to complain about liberal censorship tho.

[Gravydoo II]

Why are these dudes so obessed with trans people? Like they know sooooo much better than you, and know you would be better off if you just obeyed their commands. What an arrogant prick. Weird how he doesnt tell everyone else what to do with their lives, just trans people. We know you're slamming that dick in a sliding glass door to keep the why boners away when you think about chicks with dicks, t-girls, and whatever else is in that search cache folder. Maybe traps? If hes a 4chan/8chan boy, he was exposed to A LOT of that and it shows after a certain level of saturation.

[Cecily]

if u wanna recommend some detransitions i can think of a few targets, but this 1 is missssapplied.
Anyone I know? What criteria forms the basis of a detransition recommendation?

[magnetaress]

Anyone I know? What criteria forms the basis of a detransition recommendation?

Plz not in this thread.

spends a considerable amount of time on elf forum

speaks in gibberish and random nonsense

won't shut up

that's Magnetaress for you
Is your grievance that I don't make sense and post a lot?
I'm sorry I don't make sense to you. It's ok if you don't understand me. It's my goal always to communicate clearly and effectively and I will continue to strive towards perfection. I take posting less into consideration.

Listen dawg you need to detrans and find some questing pals or another hobby. Probably find an exercise routine indoors while ya do it. Ain't a dig or personal. Don't touch LSD or whatever the hell is going on in here.
I considered detransition. My real problems are unrelated to sex or how I look. Or what hormones I have. Being pretty is really nice and I'm going to enjoy it while I last.

Find someone that has the same sense of humor you do & have lots in common with.
I love myself, but not that much :p Being able to relate to people we like is nice. ;)

If I ever win the lottery I will buy you an androgynous slave to fulfill your every whim and fancy Maerilith. Cheers to me winning
Good luck. Spend the money for someone else. I have everything I need.

Love u too!!


what a sweet post :)
<3
Micro dosing is the approach to most of these psychedelics, think more of a mood shift and perspective opener, and less of intense body highs and visual stimulation.

Trials are coming in at different angles:

LSD
Psylocilibin(shrooms)
MDMA
Ayahuasca

The rest are derivatives or synthetics or even combinations.

The key reason I put my wallet behind these folks is I believe the microdose therapy in combination with the other more traditional methods is a huge advantage to helping people recover to a healthier mental state.

The ability for the mind to break out of negative and energy draining thought patterns often requires a kickstart and a small dose of mind-opening can definitely help with that. Also the fear of loss of control is mitigated by these mini doses.

An interesting subject to be sure, something to consider if things don't look up, I imagine you'd be an ace candidate with the swiss army knife of background stuff that can cause challenges in your life today.
Melatonin made me hallucinate pretty bad at like 3mg. I hate psychoactive drugs tbh. Even if they just change my mood or energy slightly. I feel like I am being controlled and it just triggers the internal clockwork of my psyche to freeze and go into fight or flight. Taking a long break from drugs in general. I'm pretty sensitive to medication, heck even tea. More so lately.

Sorry for being negative about it. And thanks for taking the time to let me know what you think.

https://youtu.be/L2Brm4g4HPU
Can people out of my time frame love me, like I love Jesus? Yes! We can love people who don't even exist yet. I hope some how, some way my life helps create a more loving, caring, considerate future.

If this thread has done anything for me, it's given me a new, more genuine appreciation for love. And the diversity of love around me.

I'll be around. Napping and lurking.

[Nexii]

Life is good. Revel in sin

[Gwaihir]

Tonight for dinner, I did:

Veggie enchiladas verde

Handmade tortillas (flour, vegetable shortening, distilled water, baking powder, salt)
Homemade green enchilada sauce (broiled skinned and pureed tomatillos, cilantro, and salt)
Beans (dried pintos pressure cooked, distilled water, vegetable bullion, paprika, cumin, chili powder)
Homemade mexican rice (white rice, broiled skinned tomatoes pureed, distilled water, vegetable bullion, cumin)
Grated cheddar.

Super good. Took 90 mins start to finish.

[magnetaress]

Tonight for dinner, I did:

Veggie enchiladas verde

Handmade tortillas (flour, vegetable shortening, distilled water, baking powder, salt)
Homemade green enchilada sauce (broiled skinned and pureed tomatillos, cilantro, and salt)
Beans (dried pintos pressure cooked, distilled water, vegetable bullion, paprika, cumin, chili powder)
Homemade mexican rice (white rice, broiled skinned tomatoes pureed, distilled water, vegetable bullion, cumin)
Grated cheddar.

Super good. Took 90 mins start to finish.

You are living the perfect life. :p

Sometimes really simple is good too. Hummus and sourdough. With a slice of peach on the side. Or some porridge.

Yesterday I made a two hundred calorie breakfast out of

40 grams all bran.
20 grams honey
Hot water, and after that was in stirred in 25ml whole milk.

[magnetaress]

Take your protein pills and put your helmet on

I'm sorry I'm afraid of hurting you. I can love. And you are loved.

[Jimjam]

You are living the perfect life. :p

Sometimes really simple is good too. Hummus and sourdough. With a slice of peach on the side. Or some porridge.

Yesterday I made a two hundred calorie breakfast out of

40 grams all bran.
20 grams honey
Hot water, and after that was in stirred in 25ml whole milk.

I love that breakfast.

[magnetaress]

I love that breakfast.

:)

[strongNpretty]

Listen dawg you need to detrans and find some questing pals or another hobby. Probably find an exercise routine indoors while ya do it. Ain't a dig or personal. Don't touch LSD or whatever the hell is going on in here.

Says Nirgon.......

[magnetaress]

I think I just need to cure my ME/CFS and pull myself up with my bootstraps tbqvfh.

[Cassawary]

I love that breakfast.

Half of it was sugar

[magnetaress]

Half of it was sugar

Honey.

[magnetaress]

Half of it was sugar

Not by molar mass. Or like total mass or whatever of the bran, like mostly fiber.

It wasn't even icky sweet and I know what gross sugar tastes like.

Honey is totally better for u and 20 grams of honey is no way like 20 grams of sugar.

[magnetaress]

Sugar poisons the planet and is made by corrupt people and industrial processes. Make sure u locally source your own honey from a real bee farmer and not from a plastic bear bottle at the supermarket. Your honey shouldn't be full of antibiotics and high fructose corn syrup.

You probably don't understand the spiritual component of eating murder food.

Plz realize it does matter where and who it comes from. And how they make it.

I forgive you. For probably not knowing or caring.

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/S4kk1Vb.jpg

[magnetaress]

Diet coke?

This breaks my heart.

[Cecily]

It's got zero calories. Excuse her for being health concious.

[magnetaress]

It's got zero calories. Excuse her for being health concious.

Sugar and calories aren't the only things killing people, but they certainly don't help either.

Diet Coke comes in plastic bottles. Where do plastic bottles come from?

It's really acidic and probably harmful to gut flora. It takes a lot of energy to get rid of toxins. And to heal the damage lots of nutrients. Overall failing health causes more stress causing more fat deposition and the organism to seek out more calories in the search of nutrients, except the organism just drinks more Diet Coke bottled with what water? And where the f did the sodium come from. The organisms DNA oxidizes at an accelerated rate.

Organism is in pain, depressed, distressed. Organism is now treated to modern day pharmaceuticals for blood pressure, or doping them up for the extreme pain and inflimmation. Weight is still an unaddressed factor as well as electrolytes and microbiota. They'll probably try surgically altering the organisms stomach or suppressing the appetite with some more drugs.

It's GG as doctors don't have a fucking clue about ecology and economics, nutrition, spirituality or anything other than physiology, anatomy, and pharmacology. Pathology. Sort... of there's more specialization but fixing this organisms heart or blood pressure will not cure her. Doctor needs to get paid so follows, government, hospital, insurance treatment protocol and protects institutions and self from liability at the expense of organisms chances of individual recovery.

I don't want the lady to suffer, but I don't love Coca Cola and Coca Cola cannot love anyone.

She'd be better off drinking one regular cola per day with one nutrient packed meal per day for the next decade then, whatever is happening there.

But self control, discipline, moderation, and wisdom is obviously not a human organisms strong suit.

I feel for her. She is clearly suffering and Coca Cola isn't helping. Or whatever else is going on there. Probably the government. And Doctors.

Being/ helping someone be so clearly sick or causing such sickness is criminal. And outright barbarism. I definitely blame the big food brands and poison manufacturers.

What the fuck more can I say to lovingly help this person?

I'm dying or I would literally lead the revolution and run the world as supreme Empress. So, uhm. Good luck fixing this one guys. Remember to have some fun and don't kill innocents in frustration, but like. Yeah. Lol. Wtf ppl.

[imperiouskitten]

Coca Cola is a great beverage just don't confuse it for water retards

[imperiouskitten]

btw I ordered a bougie expensive pizza yesterday and got the door in my pajama type form fitting almost underwear. the delivery maiden was a mega hot passy trans chick. first I was mortified but then I clocked her. super weird and surreal. it took a second to clock each other, then our voices changed to like "WHOA" and she basically bowed to the floor on the way out. Nice interaction, seems like impossible odds.

[magnetaress]

btw I ordered a bougie expensive pizza yesterday and got the door in my pajama type form fitting almost underwear. the delivery maiden was a mega hot passy trans chick. first I was mortified but then I clocked her. super weird and surreal. it took a second to clock each other, then our voices changed to like "WHOA" and she basically bowed to the floor on the way out. Nice interaction, seems like impossible odds.

Buying pizza made with quality ingredients from a joint that employs decent trans ppl not crazy libtards is totally approved. You are driving the free market in a better direction.

I only got upset because u implied guns with my singsong krishna. Perhaps because seeing others helpless and entrapped by brutal ignorance and stupidity makes me extremely angry. There's not one single person or thing to blame its complex. And nuanced and Chortles triggered the fuck out of me because I personally know people like that and I'm helpless to help them.

Gun or not and I am not really into guns.

[magnetaress]

Coca Cola is a great beverage just don't confuse it for water retards

I don't even drink it anymore. My dumbass parents taught us to drink it like water.

I'm the only one who escaped.

[imperiouskitten]

Buying pizza made with quality ingredients from a joint that employs decent trans ppl not crazy libtards is totally approved. You are driving the free market in a better direction.

I only got upset because u implied guns with my singsong krishna. Perhaps because seeing others helpless and entrapped by brutal ignorance and stupidity makes me extremely angry. There's not one single person or thing to blame its complex. And nuanced and Chortles triggered the fuck out of me because I personally know people like that and I'm helpless to help them.

Gun or not and I am not really into guns.

no that was me, i was doing a krishna robbery.

[magnetaress]

no that was me, i was doing a krishna robbery.

I self projected.

That brutal part of myself has crippled me.

It's not your fault. I did that to myself.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to reflect.

[imperiouskitten]

time to self reflect mother fucker *wheels an old 88mm gun into pointing right at u*

[HalflingSpergand]

Cocacola was personally crafted by satan thats why it tastes "good" but makes you look and feel like jabba

[magnetaress]

I would chastise u for using such a large caliber to kill me individually. I'm sure I could help save you some cost/ ammo. I would willing allow myself a sharp blade to the jugular because I am already at your mercy.

[magnetaress]

Cocacola was personally crafted by satan thats why it tastes "good" but makes you look and feel like jabba

I can't really stand it anymore. Gingerale too. It's all weird tasting now. I forced down a Gingerale because it's supposed to help with upset stomach the other day. Maybe never again.

[Jimjam]

Half of it was sugar

Addiction and love have many neurochemical similarities.

Seriously though, creating market pressure for bees is very important, and honey is far less severe for the body than refined sugar, helps reduce allergies and promotes healing. Honey is a good route for sating sugar cravings.

[magnetaress]

Addiction and love have many neurochemical similarities.

Seriously though, creating market pressure for bees is very important, and honey is far less severe for the body than refined sugar, helps reduce allergies and promotes healing. Honey is a good route for sating sugar cravings.

Yep.

Cassawary rly hurted my feelings.

[Gwaihir]

What's feelings, desu?

[magnetaress]

What's feelings, desu?

In this case feelings was a physiological response to Cassawary's words.

I felt.

Attacked.
Threatened.
Teased.
Poked.

Like there was a slight emotional pain seeing the likening of honey to refined white cane sugar made in a brutal and horrific way.

Kinda like I was punched or being punished for caring about the bees and enjoying their bounty. Like I was pinched. I bet we could even fuck up beekeeping though with enough demand.

My feelings are my own I don't expect others to feel that way.

But I knew Cassawary was making light of my position on Sugar. Which in turn triggered my feeling of being backed into a wall by a deliberate oversimplification.

I feel better now though. I'm probably the only one who felt that way but I appreciate the backup from those who supported me.

BTW honey has fructose and antioxidants and if not poisoned during processing by pharmaceutical antibiotics, bacteria and fungi beneficial for adult organisms. It's also absorbed slower into the bloodstream.

I am PROUD for knowing this and I feel smart and clever.

I feel good for sharing that information freely so people can make an informed choice instead of just destroying lake Okeechobee (https://bullsugar.org/time_for_sugar_to_clean_own_pollution/) etc. Not to mention the toxic chemicals that the sugar companies flood our water with. Or the chemical fertilizer.

And I hope I save you from poisoning your spirits. That feels Godly.

All that sugar use results in an epidemic of algal blooms, fish murder, and flesh eating bacteria when it mixes with the raw sewages, another problem. Made worse by global warming. Warming the Oceans. And changing currents.

[magnetaress]

One problem I forsee is bees being fed sugar slurries though to replace their winter reserves. It's definitely a problem.

Otherwise maybe bees are happy to make honey and will probably overproduce as an adaptation to predation in warmer climes. Maybe green houses with wildflower gardens are a solution in colder zones.

Like I care. That caring feelings strong and makes it easy for me to consider this stuff.

To bee considerate.

[magnetaress]

And yes I feel bad when I see a lone bee unable to fly. Crawling on the cold rocky ground in the deep shade.

I know better than to try to save an individual drone. I still feel the bee though.

I feel like that bee. I know what it's like to be cold and shivering on the floor, unable to get up and feeling like my life is rapidly bleeding away.

I am that bee.

[Gwaihir]

And I hope I save you from poisoning your spirits. That feels Godly.


Definitely. Milk and Honey.

Be thankful we live past the age of Scaphism

[magnetaress]

Definitely. Milk and Honey.

Be thankful we live past the age of Scaphism

Thats more of an entrapment/ boat, putrification thing than a milk and honey thing. There's irony in the use of milk and honey.

People used to be staked to the ground, put in iron maidens, and burried to the jaw too.

I suppose feeding someone milk and honey keeps them alive longer.

I'm suspect about them getting stung. They were probably bitten by flies though.

Everyone had parasites then, so I can believe the worms part attributed to abiogenises.

I advocate if a person, and strongly IF a person must be executed, it be swift and merciful.

We shouldn't torture our prisoners either. They should at least be afforded the cares and respects we would grant a dangerous animal or sick pet. Though humans are prone to feelings of superiority and betrayal that complicate this most basic of consideration.

Scaphism is a reflection on the Persians and Greeks and the fears that ruled them, less than on anyone executed in such a way.

[imperiouskitten]

i finally quit lexapro a few days ago and my love sensors are wayyyyyyy unclouded btw. sensitivity way up. it's gonna be a good life

[Cassawary]

In this case feelings was a physiological response to Cassawary's words.

I felt.

Attacked.
Threatened.
Teased.
Poked.

Like there was a slight emotional pain seeing the likening of honey to refined white cane sugar made in a brutal and horrific way.

Kinda like I was punched or being punished for caring about the bees and enjoying their bounty. Like I was pinched. I bet we could even fuck up beekeeping though with enough demand.

My feelings are my own I don't expect others to feel that way.

But I knew Cassawary was making light of my position on Sugar. Which in turn triggered my feeling of being backed into a wall by a deliberate oversimplification.

I feel better now though. I'm probably the only one who felt that way but I appreciate the backup from those who supported me.

BTW honey has fructose and antioxidants and if not poisoned during processing by pharmaceutical antibiotics, bacteria and fungi beneficial for adult organisms. It's also absorbed slower into the bloodstream.

I am PROUD for knowing this and I feel smart and clever.

I feel good for sharing that information freely so people can make an informed choice instead of just destroying lake Okeechobee (https://bullsugar.org/time_for_sugar_to_clean_own_pollution/) etc. Not to mention the toxic chemicals that the sugar companies flood our water with. Or the chemical fertilizer.

And I hope I save you from poisoning your spirits. That feels Godly.

All that sugar use results in an epidemic of algal blooms, fish murder, and flesh eating bacteria when it mixes with the raw sewages, another problem. Made worse by global warming. Warming the Oceans. And changing currents.

Technically all your food is sugar, it's called glucose I believe.

[imperiouskitten]

wrong but pretty close to all, yes.

get yo protein

[magnetaress]

Technically all your food is sugar, it's called glucose I believe.

I'm furious.

Isn't the protiens thing different tho in the greater organisms, speaking of burning bodyfat and protien. Cells individually convert it into glucose, glycogen, or whatever?

Thinking of:

Ketones are chemicals your liver makes. You produce them when you don't have enough insulin in your body to turn sugar (or glucose) into energy. You need another source, so your body uses fat instead. Your liver turns this fat into ketones, a type of acid, and sends them into your bloodstream.

Basic, further research necessary. Thanks for the push.

White refined sugar from Corpse'rations are spiritually impure and damaging to the self, body of our nation, higher self, environment, LIFE in ways the individual will not immediately perceive. They still hurt mother earth.

That's my beliefs. God cries at each and every granual of crystallized white powder created by industry that enters the body of man and beast alike.

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/S4kk1Vb.jpg

[imperiouskitten]

main issue with simple sugar is it is needs no metabolysis to function as fuel. so all it has to do is get into solution and it over-sugars you, causing an insulin spike to compensate for basically an overdose. those insulin spikes have some really wide reaching effects downstream, so many that we probably don't know all the ways it hurts you, but u can read about that.

more complex sugars are essentially glucose held in molecular chains, so the chain has to be chewed up before u get dosed with the sugar, so it hits smoother and the same volume of glucose sustains you for longer, like time release adderall. proteins are metabolized into their constituent amino acids, not glucose, which is the main thing which makes pokesan wrong. Although there is a pathway for taking the chemical energy out of amino acids to invest it into fuel, it is an alternative pathway and doesn't involve glucose, sort of a backup starvation pathway (abused in all-meat diets, turns ur pee into caustic stinking brown stew, while starving ur brain for glucose which probably atrophies it, turning u into Joe Rogan). Other things are "vitamins", those are miscellaneous compounds with various properties which are not sugar either, and "fiber", which actually is made of a sugar chain but u don't digest it because it's built into basically indigestable plant-plastic.

fat metabolizes down to glucose too tho yes iirc. but not all fatty acids *do* get metabolized into glucose, because they are of structural use.

*note:i am treating ATP and glucose pretty interchangeably here

[magnetaress]

I hope Cassawary isn't a physician.

Then when after 24-48 hrs, probably even less in most organisms (like 6-10 hrs for me since I'm a practiced faster) my body goes into fat dripping occasional glucose molecules at a clockwork rate. I have experienced this burning like 3000 calories on a ruck march (***like running through the forest in gear with boxes of supplies held in my arms for hours, off trail, up and down ravines, logs, jumping) without starvation as my glycogen reserves don't last all that long. (I have always had superhuman physical endurance in the past) that's another reason this CFS thing is horrific.

That's probably why I feel good and the brain fog goes away if I don't eat.

I feel like crap after a normal meal where food was cooked with sugar.

My a1c and triglycerides and cholesterols and stuff are always perfect with every blood test.

I'm just Bene Gesserit. In touch with my molecular biology. I can feel the poisoning the minute a sugar molecule reaches my tissues. It is so fucking real. I is also a part of whatever this ME/CFS is. There's definitely a metabolic component detatched from pure insulin. Tho I don't doubt my healthy pancreas loads me with it after a regular cola.

[Cassawary]

White sugar is just chopped up cane stalks, a type of bamboo.

[magnetaress]

White sugar is just chopped up cane stalks, a type of bamboo.

Man. Or woman. It's impossible to tell with you.

It is not "just chopped up cane stalks".

I saw how it was made in the olden days first hand. However I think it's chemically treated now.

Screening Edit
The remaining sugar is then dissolved to make a syrup (about 70 percent by weight solids), which is clarified by the addition of phosphoric acid and calcium hydroxide that combine to precipitate calcium phosphate. The calcium phosphate particles entrap some impurities and absorb others, and then float to the top of the tank, where they are skimmed off.

After any remaining solids are filtered out, the clarified syrup is decolorized by filtration through the use of bone char, which is made from the bones of cattle,[3] a bed of activated carbon or, in more modern plants, ion-exchange resin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_refinery

Man the sugar industry is like obfuscating the chemicals used and the sourcing it IS SO BAD. *the byproducts and waste also get dumped into the waterways here.

Enjoy your prion diseased bone ash.

Old school molasses wasn't so bad. Old school smol refineries weren't so bad. But they get the poisoness toxic abiotic sludge used to make ur sugar from the pits of hell and China now.

Don't fuck with me bro, girl. I am fully awakened.

Stop hurting yourself and stop trying to make fun of me because I love Godliness and purity. And care about fish and life other than my tastebuds.

Just eat a beat instead.

[magnetaress]

Aside from the spiritual pain and suffering endured at any amount.

Is there any safe amount of white refined sugar to consume in any single dose that doesn't cause stressful oxidation and insulin responses? At all?

Like can sugar be microdosed?

[Cassawary]

Aside from the spiritual pain and suffering endured at any amount.

Is there any safe amount of white refined sugar to consume in any single dose that doesn't cause stressful oxidation and insulin responses? At all?

Like can sugar be microdosed?

But it's natural

[Nexii]

I don't think sugar is so bad in moderation. We need sugar (glucose) to live, much like fat, protein, etc.

What's really bad are the fake sugars and foods with no fat that make you eat way more sugar due to over-hunger feelings.

I avoid buying pop and chips. Occasionally as a treat when eating out but hardly ever at the grocery store. I'll sin on chocolate instead.

Going pescetarian has been interesting. Haven't felt all that different on the whole. Maybe just proof that we're omnivorous and can adapt well.

[magnetaress]

But it's natural

Heavenly Father, I pray for all the lost and confused souls in today’s generation…I pray you give them a mind of understanding and ears and eyes to reason with the problems of life today,,

I pray for our Christian brothers and sisters for guidance and protection and most of all, I pray for our unity as one in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Amen God be with you all shalom.

[magnetaress]

I don't think sugar is so bad in moderation. We need sugar (glucose) to live, much like fat, protein, etc.

What's really bad are the fake sugars and foods with no fat that make you eat way more sugar due to over-hunger feelings.

I avoid buying pop and chips. Occasionally as a treat when eating out but hardly ever at the grocery store. I'll sin on chocolate instead.

Going pescetarian has been interesting. Haven't felt all that different on the whole. Maybe just proof that we're omnivorous and can adapt well.

Fish are smart trainable and feel stuff. Like humans.

https://i.imgur.com/slVCKic.gif

How to train your fish https://imgur.com/gallery/vPs0zps

[magnetaress]

I just did 20g of apricot preserved in a high fructose matrix instead of sugar with my all bran.

No milk.

Feeling weird.

Not sure it is better but at least not sugar this time. IF I was rich I would have paid someone a living wage to pick me a fresh apricot from my holdings.

Come to think on it, I enjoy apricot a lot, wonder if it is on the alkaline diet.

[HalflingSpergand]

To be fair those fish are cichlids. Much smarter than your average retard fish

[magnetaress]

To be fair those fish are cichlids. Much smarter than your average retard fish

Fair enough :)

[HalflingSpergand]

Haha im annoyinf

[Cecily]

main issue with simple sugar is it is needs no metabolysis to function as fuel. so all it has to do is get into solution and it over-sugars you, causing an insulin spike to compensate for basically an overdose. those insulin spikes have some really wide reaching effects downstream, so many that we probably don't know all the ways it hurts you, but u can read about that.

more complex sugars are essentially glucose held in molecular chains, so the chain has to be chewed up before u get dosed with the sugar, so it hits smoother and the same volume of glucose sustains you for longer, like time release adderall. proteins are metabolized into their constituent amino acids, not glucose, which is the main thing which makes pokesan wrong. Although there is a pathway for taking the chemical energy out of amino acids to invest it into fuel, it is an alternative pathway and doesn't involve glucose, sort of a backup starvation pathway (abused in all-meat diets, turns ur pee into caustic stinking brown stew, while starving ur brain for glucose which probably atrophies it, turning u into Joe Rogan). Other things are "vitamins", those are miscellaneous compounds with various properties which are not sugar either, and "fiber", which actually is made of a sugar chain but u don't digest it because it's built into basically indigestable plant-plastic.

fat metabolizes down to glucose too tho yes iirc. but not all fatty acids *do* get metabolized into glucose, because they are of structural use.

*note:i am treating ATP and glucose pretty interchangeably here

Thank you for this discussion. I miss the Kreb's Cycle and I learn more about it every time I go back. I had a surgeon tell me epinephrine was only a vasoconstrictor when I told him it was both a vasoconstrictor and vasodialator. Shoulda stuck to my guns. It IS both, depending on alpha or beta receptor. He's probably more right than me, but it feels nice to know that I'm still right. Also, you didn't answer my previous query. Don't read ill intent into it. Genuinely curious.

Looks like fat mostly skips the pyruvate stage which you get two of from a glucose molecule and jumps into kreb's cycle as acetyl-CoA after fatty acid chains undergo beta oxidation. This is significant because the nervous system only runs on glucose. Do you know why? I don't.

Edit: Just learned ketones act as brain fuel, too, albeit probably worse than glucose and 100% turn you into Joe Rogan.

[Jimjam]

I just did 20g of apricot preserved in a high fructose matrix instead of sugar with my all bran.

No milk.

Feeling weird.

Not sure it is better but at least not sugar this time. IF I was rich I would have paid someone a living wage to pick me a fresh apricot from my holdings.

Come to think on it, I enjoy apricot a lot, wonder if it is on the alkaline diet.

Had to massively cut back our apricots this winter, hopefully will grow back well, because the fruit we produce are decent and it would be a shame to lose them.

Hoping to create another olive plantation this year. I don't like them much myself, but apparently I'm in the minority here.

[magnetaress]

Had to massively cut back our apricots this winter, hopefully will grow back well, because the fruit we produce are decent and it would be a shame to lose them.

Hoping to create another olive plantation this year. I don't like them much myself, but apparently I'm in the minority here.

Yeah me either. At least you can get them fresh. Green or ripened.

Australia 🇦🇺?

Also that is cool you grow stuff. High fives!

[Kaveh]

I put some olive plants up on my ranch, mainly because of the time it takes to cultivate them. I thought it would be a good exercise in teaching some of my grandchildren discipline

I regret it. It has been a huge pain in my ass, probably because olives don’t seem well suited to messed up ass clay Texas soil

We had peach trees growing up in nacogdoches. I still can’t eat peaches to this day because they taste like shit compared to the ones we’d get from our backyard

[Jimjam]

The olives will be on the Greek island. As Kaveh alludes to they need a dusty rubbly mountainside.

We used to have an incredible ancient one on the mainland estate, but a worker cut it back too far, more or less killing it.

He hasn't worked for us again.

[magnetaress]

The olives will be on the Greek island. As Kaveh alludes to they need a dusty rubbly mountainside.

We used to have an incredible ancient one on the mainland estate, but a worker cut it back too far, more or less killing it.

He hasn't worked for us again.

Holy moley. Plz don't make me laugh so hard. I almost passed out lol.

I put some olive plants up on my ranch, mainly because of the time it takes to cultivate them. I thought it would be a good exercise in teaching some of my grandchildren discipline

I regret it. It has been a huge pain in my ass, probably because olives don’t seem well suited to messed up ass clay Texas soil

We had peach trees growing up in nacogdoches. I still can’t eat peaches to this day because they taste like shit compared to the ones we’d get from our backyard

Feels.

I miss my loquats. It was murdered for "space". R.i.p.

I didn't lay down in front of it because I differed to and respected my mother's authority.