Imagine, if you will

[indiscriminate_hater]

Clearing growth for 12 hours with nothing to show for it.

[Grumph]

Remember when Ring War was a competitive clickfest.
And.
If you failed RW you had to concede like 3 weeks or whatever?

I know it’s a stretch but, wouldn’t it make sense to have some sort of repercussions for failing to kill Tunare within your allotted 12 hours?

[aerah]

i believe the repercussions are, you have to race again? are you asking for something more draconian?

[Yinein]

Imagine thinking it matters what you kill or dont 6 years into velious after everything was cleared in kunark gear. Hope that helps.

PS- Sorry you dont got warder loot

[Naonak]

Imagine losing the race twice. Oh, you did.

[Bardp1999]

12 hours in POG is it's own punishment

[Snortles Chortles]

https://i.imgur.com/WRIYUZb.png

[Bardp1999]

Big commute tomorrow Snorts. Better get some sleep so the boss doesnt put you on another performance improvement plan

[indiscriminate_hater]

I'd be understandably salty as well if my guild couldn't hack it in 12 hours. GL on the next 12!

[Horza]

12 hours in POG is it's own punishment

[Naonak]

Sounds like a master strategy to me.

Fail to clear in 12 hours.

Give Quish a second chance at Tunare. I bet, your massive warm body guild, that a few carry, got super excited.

Quish fail to win the race and have a clear and easy Tunare and her pixels.

But get denied again by a dead guild.

Sorry to get you excited and ruin your evening.

It is understandable, you would think players in 2021 really give a shit, but majority of us, really don't care about your salt in RnF. Apart from it's a great laugh.

The real RnF should be.

Why have Quished failed to destroy Riot, like Riot did to AM!

Was their sole purpose of starting a guild and merging with a warm body guild.

Since Vanquish took all the warm body players, they don't win as many targets as they once did.

Players being carried have that effect on guilds.

Play makers, players carrying others, tend to stop trying as they don't get rewarded like they should.

Anyway. Back to 2021 and reality. Limited players outside Quish give a shit, what goes on outside their guild.

It's been fun.

[starkind]

Imagine not being an elf in game or IRL and not needing to sleep.

[Yinein]

The real winners is kittens for scooping up loot after another guild clears for 12 hours, consider kittens, rest yall suck.

[myrddraal]

I’m just waiting for Rogean to raid ban everyone again for intentionally breaking the leash on PoG, which he said not to do, by dragging all the mobs to one corner of the map and burning Tunare.

It’s gonna be a golden era for the casuals when another raid ban is handed out like the sleepers tomb model deletion scandal was punished.

[Nocht]

They should make blue the hardcore server where your character gets deleted if you die.

[Kaitainz]

Sounds like a master strategy to me.

Fail to clear in 12 hours.

Give Quish a second chance at Tunare. I bet, your massive warm body guild, that a few carry, got super excited.

Quish fail to win the race and have a clear and easy Tunare and her pixels.

But get denied again by a dead guild.

Sorry to get you excited and ruin your evening.

It is understandable, you would think players in 2021 really give a shit, but majority of us, really don't care about your salt in RnF. Apart from it's a great laugh.

The real RnF should be.

Why have Quished failed to destroy Riot, like Riot did to AM!

Was their sole purpose of starting a guild and merging with a warm body guild.

Since Vanquish took all the warm body players, they don't win as many targets as they once did.

Players being carried have that effect on guilds.

Play makers, players carrying others, tend to stop trying as they don't get rewarded like they should.

Anyway. Back to 2021 and reality. Limited players outside Quish give a shit, what goes on outside their guild.

It's been fun.

Nailed it! I mean the salt of losing twice from a dead guild must really suck. Then the crying that went on about how it’s not fair from the guild that wants to race for everything. I felt the tears and salt all the way from my couch, just like JB’s couch. Amazing.

[starkind]

I’m just waiting for Rogean to raid ban everyone again for intentionally breaking the leash on PoG, which he said not to do, by dragging all the mobs to one corner of the map and burning Tunare.

It’s gonna be a golden era for the casuals when another raid ban is handed out like the sleepers tomb model deletion scandal was punished.

ProTiP. It's always a golden era for casuals.

https://i.imgur.com/Gv0kS0S.jpg

[Kaitainz]

The real winners is kittens for scooping up loot after another guild clears for 12 hours, consider kittens, rest yall suck.


I mean, absolutely!!! Love me some Kittens!!

[Loke]

Imagine taking like 14 hours to kill Tunare, and then posting this...

Sounds like a master strategy to me.

Fail to clear in 12 hours.

Give Quish a second chance at Tunare. I bet, your massive warm body guild, that a few carry, got super excited.

Quish fail to win the race and have a clear and easy Tunare and her pixels.

But get denied again by a dead guild.

Sorry to get you excited and ruin your evening.

It is understandable, you would think players in 2021 really give a shit, but majority of us, really don't care about your salt in RnF. Apart from it's a great laugh.

The real RnF should be.

Why have Quished failed to destroy Riot, like Riot did to AM!

Was their sole purpose of starting a guild and merging with a warm body guild.

Since Vanquish took all the warm body players, they don't win as many targets as they once did.

Players being carried have that effect on guilds.

Play makers, players carrying others, tend to stop trying as they don't get rewarded like they should.

Anyway. Back to 2021 and reality. Limited players outside Quish give a shit, what goes on outside their guild.

It's been fun.

[Wibo49]

The entire thing was worth it to see.....

... Xytunes take GOLD and Furoar get his participation trophy. :D

[SantagarBrax]

There shouldn't have even been a discussion about it. Riot had 12 full hours and just like a failed RW, they should not have been able to attempt it again.

If Riot had been in the same position and any Casual guild had been in their position, Riot would have demanded that they forfeit the zone. This is pure hypocrisy at its finest.

It just goes to show you that Riot leadership doesn't practice what they preach.

[Croco]

There shouldn't have even been a discussion about it. Riot had 12 full hours and just like a failed RW, they should not have been able to attempt it again.

If Riot had been in the same position and any Casual guild had been in their position, Riot would have demanded that they forfeit the zone. This is pure hypocrisy at its finest.

It just goes to show you that Riot leadership doesn't practice what they preach.

growth =/= rw

When you fail a ring war no one can do it again for another 3 days, tunare died after you all failed to win a 2nd race. Consider being better at racing.

Also taking 12 hours (though we weren't active in the zone for the entire 12 hours) to learn a strat vanq has been perfecting for months isn't a failure. We got much closer to actually killing tunare in our very first burn down attempt than you all did in your first attempt. I'm sure a few more 12 hours sessions and we'll have it down pat.

[RecondoJoe]

True story, when I was like 17... I was spending 18 hours a day, 7 days a week in Plane of Growth.. at this time, I don't think anyone had killed Tunare on any server (don't quote me on this)...

I was so proud of my Assassin's armor, didn't even know about the Thurgadin armor that was easier to get and essentially same stats... worked so hard. The worst thing that happened to me was somehow someone in our raid aggro'd Tunare, and she summoned me to her tree and killed her..

The PUG raid leader abandoned the raid, and made no attempt to get my corpse. The next day when we were talking (I still hadn't recovered my corpse, stayed awake for like 20+ hours)... he was like oh, it's no big deal, we can get you more armor dude... and it was like holy shit? I had my Epic, and a lot of other stuff besides just Assassin's armor... I can't remember how I got my corpse, but I think some level 56 Druid who wasn't KOS ended up saving me on this... I remember that was one of the scariest CRs of my life..
had a real close encounter with losing my items to Faydedar (sp?) whatever that Sea Monster in Timorous Deep is... think it took me and my friend 18 hours to get our corpses...

[Loke]

We spent 14+ hours in PoG, eventually had to call in Kittens for help, but let me go ahead and try spin this as being a success...

[Doujou]

There shouldn't have even been a discussion about it. Riot had 12 full hours and just like a failed RW, they should not have been able to attempt it again.

If Riot had been in the same position and any Casual guild had been in their position, Riot would have demanded that they forfeit the zone. This is pure hypocrisy at its finest.

It just goes to show you that Riot leadership doesn't practice what they preach.

What was done was what the GMs said to do. Feel free to take it up with them if you feel so strongly. Riot gets told they need to seek GM clarification before they do "X" but when we do for "Y" and the answer is not to your liking, we're at fault again. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.

Those 12 hours were great to theory-craft and try new things. Riot is just a small guild doing big things after all. Just like we needed practice with the "new" Meta this round, maybe you guys should focus less on a record-breaking clear and use some of that time racing next time? Just trying to help.

Was great to have you Kittens, as always!

[SantagarBrax]

Is the idea of having 12 hours to kill after an FTE unreasonable?

[SantagarBrax]

And more importantly, wouldn't Riot leadership call for any other Guild to forfeit the zone if the roles were reversed?

We all know the answers to these questions, no matter how try to spin it.

[Doujou]

And more importantly, wouldn't Riot leadership call for any other Guild to forfeit the zone if the roles were reversed?

We all know the answers to these questions, no matter how try to spin it.

What Riot Leadership does, and did, is follow player, server, and GM rules. Once again, sorry if they are not to your liking. Please consult the appropriate authorities.

Show me on the doll where 14 hours of nearly uncontested raid content hurt you.

Go outside, drink a diet coke, have a blessed day.

[Viscere]

that seems like a pretty horrible way to spend your sunday, while your opponents kill errrrrrything

Ooooooof 9000

[Akg49]

Salt levels above 9000

[Toryas]

Clearing growth for 12 hours with nothing to show for it.

Imagine an entire guild relying on 1, maybe 2(?) players to get your FTEs against a dead guild and him getting curb stomped all week. Imagine if the head of the snake decides to quit... oof.

Imagine imagining...

[Nytemist]

Imagine wiping to uncontested Vindi.
The salt is real.

[Croco]

We raced for takish twice and lost both times REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[myrddraal]

that seems like a pretty horrible way to spend your sunday, while your opponents kill errrrrrything

Ooooooof 9000

Like fucking what, Vindi? Nothing good was even in window lol.

[starkind]

Entire thread is really tldr except for starkinds short posts.

[X] So don't join riot.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Getting an FTE comes down to split second variances of a few individual racers. Failing to kill Tunare after 12 hours results from a guild-wide systemic failure.

Hope this helps.

[Snortles Chortles]

thanks for the test servers current events

[Kaitainz]

Imagine the levels of salt inside their minds, living rent free…

[BlackBellamy]

thanks for the test servers current events

Is this about gardening? I was clearing growth once and slipped off a rise and long story short artificial elbow. But the interesting thing I found out is if your arm bone is poking out and the world is on fire that if you bite down hard on a rolled up shop towel man that pain is reduced by like 40% it totally totally works.

$140k later I can't play tennis any more. Clearing growth sucks! I pay for landscapers now.

[Snortles Chortles]

WHADDAYA THINK ABOUT THAT

[Croco]

Getting an FTE comes down to split second variances of a few individual racers. Failing to kill Tunare after 12 hours results from a guild-wide systemic failure.

Hope this helps.

sorry your guild is bad at racing, hope this helps

[Linksfather]

What? They someone failed Tunare in 12 hours and was able to try again? This doesnt make sense.

[Ravager]

Clearing growth for 12 hours with nothing to show for it.

giving a shit

[Viscere]

15 hours doe

15 fucking hours on church day

we killed her in 67 minutes last time

let that sink in

[Senix]

I do want to point out that by the time this last KT hit the zone line Vanquish had 125 people vs riots 76. While bragging about doing things quicker might be cool you are almost doubling their numbers on a regular basis.

[Detoxx]

Sounds like a master strategy to me.

Fail to clear in 12 hours.

Give Quish a second chance at Tunare. I bet, your massive warm body guild, that a few carry, got super excited.

Quish fail to win the race and have a clear and easy Tunare and her pixels.

But get denied again by a dead guild.

Sorry to get you excited and ruin your evening.

It is understandable, you would think players in 2021 really give a shit, but majority of us, really don't care about your salt in RnF. Apart from it's a great laugh.

The real RnF should be.

Why have Quished failed to destroy Riot, like Riot did to AM!

Was their sole purpose of starting a guild and merging with a warm body guild.

Since Vanquish took all the warm body players, they don't win as many targets as they once did.

Players being carried have that effect on guilds.

Play makers, players carrying others, tend to stop trying as they don't get rewarded like they should.

Anyway. Back to 2021 and reality. Limited players outside Quish give a shit, what goes on outside their guild.

It's been fun.

Lol Yeah, Riot destroyed AM. The guild that all of their members left for Green / WoW classic and quit over rooted dragons. You guys "killed" AM then when you got hit wit some actual competition, you cant kill shit. You cant solo kill anything anymore, you never kill KT / Vulak / Doze / Dain / CT / anything that matters.

Id say its sad to see such a good guild fall so far but...you were never good. You walked into a dead server and took over cause there was no other guild to punch you in the mount until last July.

Keep thinking your good, though.

[Horza]

Lol Yeah, Riot destroyed AM. The guild that all of their members left for Green / WoW classic and quit over rooted dragons. You guys "killed" AM then when you got hit wit some actual competition, you cant kill shit. You cant solo kill anything anymore, you never kill KT / Vulak / Doze / Dain / CT / anything that matters.

Id say its sad to see such a good guild fall so far but...you were never good. You walked into a dead server and took over cause there was no other guild to punch you in the mount until last July.

Keep thinking your good, though.

lol

[greasemonk]

Keep thinking your good, though.

This quote brought to you by a 'man' who can't use the proper form of 'your' or change 'his' forum signature!

[Senix]

Lol Yeah, Riot destroyed AM. The guild that all of their members left for Green / WoW classic and quit over rooted dragons. You guys "killed" AM then when you got hit wit some actual competition, you cant kill shit. You cant solo kill anything anymore, you never kill KT / Vulak / Doze / Dain / CT / anything that matters.

Id say its sad to see such a good guild fall so far but...you were never good. You walked into a dead server and took over cause there was no other guild to punch you in the mount until last July.

Keep thinking your good, though.

Remember the last quake when you killed only vulak on that list and kittens got Dain/Yeli and half of the inner ring, riot Dunked KT/Doze back to back on you and then got ct while for some reason you guys did vp after not getting kt/doze ?

[Yinein]

Remember the last quake when you killed only vulak on that list and kittens got Dain/Yeli and half of the inner ring, riot Dunked KT/Doze back to back on you and then got ct while for some reason you guys did vp after not getting kt/doze ?

Remember when velious dropped and 99% of yall in this thread werent around? good times.

PS- Sorry you dont got warder loot (cept detoxx he has some)

[feniin]

Imagine losing two chances at Tunare to the guild you're claiming is dying. Wheels are really falling off the Vanquish short bus.

[icedwards]

Lol Yeah, Riot destroyed AM. The guild that all of their members left for Green / WoW classic and quit over rooted dragons. You guys "killed" AM then when you got hit wit some actual competition, you cant kill shit. You cant solo kill anything anymore, you never kill KT / Vulak / Doze / Dain / CT / anything that matters.

Id say its sad to see such a good guild fall so far but...you were never good. You walked into a dead server and took over cause there was no other guild to punch you in the mount until last July.

Keep thinking your good, though.

Imagine speed running guild collapses so fast you can't even update your forum signature.

PS. You were dog shit at classic wow.

[Horza]

You can't seriously expect him to make half a dozen different custom sigs.

[Yinein]

PS. You were dog shit at classic wow.

This part is at least true, carry on.

[isiah]

Detoxx has been delusional for the last 8 years.

Pray for him.

[Toryas]

Keep thinking your good, though.

His good what?

[KansasComrade]

His good what?

His good, though.

Keep up.

[Senix]

His good, though.

Keep up.

that good good !

[xdrcfrx]

Lol Yeah, Riot destroyed AM. The guild that all of their members left for Green / WoW classic and quit over rooted dragons. (1) You guys "killed" AM then when you got hit wit some actual competition, you cant kill shit. You cant solo kill anything anymore,(2) you never kill KT / Vulak / Doze / Dain / CT / anything that matters. (3)

Id say its sad to see such a good guild fall so far but...you were never good. You walked into a dead server and took over cause there was no other guild to punch you in the mount until last July. (4)

Keep thinking your good, though.

See annotations, below:

(1) - hand waiving excuses are a hallmark of bad faith negotiating.

(2) - the only reason it's a solo kill for you now is because you merged with AG. Fewer than 8 weeks ago you were on the other side of this point, we should strive for consistency.

(3) - didn't you lose the last Vulak, and then the last CT? Also Statute/AoW before wiping to Vindi in embarrassing fashion? Let's not just ignore reality.

(4) - Couldn't the same be said for you? Or is it no longer a dead server, because Detoxx was gone then but is here now? This is a confusing point which you should consider revising.

Overall I give it a C. Prob need to bump that up to a B if you want to make honor roll.

[KansasComrade]

See annotations, below:

(1) - hand waiving excuses are a hallmark of bad faith negotiating.

(2) - the only reason it's a solo kill for you now is because you merged with AG. Fewer than 8 weeks ago you were on the other side of this point, we should strive for consistency.

(3) - didn't you lose the last Vulak, and then the last CT? Also Statute/AoW before wiping to Vindi in embarrassing fashion? Let's not just ignore reality.

(4) - Couldn't the same be said for you? Or is it no longer a dead server, because Detoxx was gone then but is here now? This is a confusing point which you should consider revising.

Overall I give it a C. Prob need to bump that up to a B if you want to make honor roll.

Who needs honor roll when you have ring 10 roll?

[Allishia]

Glad we won at least. I was from like 10 am till the call to re race was made.

We started out not touching tunare at all cause waiting for gm clarification on the kite mobs while tunare agrod thing..once was confirmed ok we tried that burn down strat...got it to 7% 2nd attempt woot...just ran out of time to clear though once we decided not to try burn strat again.
Also tunare is not like ring war. If you fail ring war the event is down for 3 days .. so it's a bit different since the event isn't borked and all get a 2nd chance to race

[Ennewi]

Free and liberate are both near antonyms of vanquish (https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/vanquish).

The next guild tag ought to be <Ingsoc> as a nod to socking and doublethink/Orwell.