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fjaenal
04-23-2021, 02:51 AM
Hi
I just want to ask some questions regarding an starting character from complete scratch.
I am a 6th level Barabarian Shamman. Right now hunting around Halas, and trying t slowly build some cash, although I have already bought the lvl 9 spells that are important. However here are some questions:
1.- What other zones would be good to go for some leveling at 6th? Queynos vs Freeport :)
2.- Any recommended UI to install? Right now playing with the default.
3.- Any hints and recommendations would be great !!!!!
Actual resources used:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Wisewolf%27s_Spell_Purchasing_Guide
https://wiki.project1999.com/Shaman
https://wiki.project1999.com/Shaman
Kirgi
greenspectre
04-23-2021, 04:12 AM
1- Blackburrow is pretty solid at your level range. There's a 3-spawn by the Everfrost zoneline that's fairly safe to solo, and the Gnoll Teeth quest in Qeynos is great exp. I recommend hoarding teeth until you're at or near level 9 and then turning them all in at once. You may skip up to an entire level this way.
2- On Green, custom UI's are disabled.
3- Blackburrow for exp, Erud's Crossing for wisps/Greater Lightstone turnin quest, then WK/NK bandits should get you to the late teens and with lots of cash in hand for gear. I'd recommend this path.
Cheers!
fjaenal
04-23-2021, 04:22 AM
thanks a lot !!!!. As for a tradeskill, what would you recommend?
Thanks,
Kirgi
Algustus
04-23-2021, 07:00 AM
thanks a lot !!!!. As for a tradeskill, what would you recommend?
Thanks,
Kirgi
Hi Kigi. Trade skills are going to take lots of time and resources before you are making any kind of profit. Shaman have access to alchemy and no other class can train that skill, so I'd go with that one. Have fun and enjoy Norath.
Sabin76
04-23-2021, 12:43 PM
Hi Kigi. Trade skills are going to take lots of time and resources before you are making any kind of profit. Shaman have access to alchemy and no other class can train that skill, so I'd go with that one. Have fun and enjoy Norath.
Just to reinforce the first part of that response... You will easily spend several 10s of thousands of plat leveling up Alchemy to the highest levels. If that seems out of reach, it's supposed to be for your level. Just know that as you level up, your ability to make plat goes up as well.
DeathsSilkyMist
04-23-2021, 01:37 PM
Yeah tradeskills are expensive, and alchemy is one of the more expensive ones. Luckily Spirit of Wolf Potions are the easiest to make, so even if you do not level up the skill very far, you have a cheap and easy way to make Spirit of Wolf potions for you alts later on. Will cost you 60ish plat instead of buying in ec for 100.
As long as you do not level a tradeskill past 200, you can experiment with all of them on the same character. You can only have one tradeskill past level 200 per character. Luckily Alchemy doesnt go past 200 on this timeline, so Shamans can have two max level tradeskills, Alchemy and another one.
fjaenal
04-23-2021, 02:54 PM
Thank you very much for all the help, !!!!!
Toxigen
04-23-2021, 02:59 PM
Thank you very much for all the help, !!!!!
Keep that wiki open!
https://wiki.project1999.com/
UrkTheSlayer
04-23-2021, 03:43 PM
thanks a lot !!!!. As for a tradeskill, what would you recommend?
Thanks,
Kirgi
For sure cooking and fishing. Train baking to 21, make wooly spider crunches (1 spider legs, not spiderling and one frosting) then make steaks to 41 and sell for 2-5pp each then make beer braised stuff to 68 and sell for 5-10pp each.
It’s a lot of work, check vendors for wolf/bear/cat ect meat and spider legs: it’s worth it.
Also keep an eye out for 50+ spells on random vendors: I bought a 56 Druid spell breath of karana a few days ago for 26p and sold it for 300 just by /who all Druid 54-56 and being polite “/t hello, are you busy?I just started playing again and I found a <name of spell you found> for you on a vendor and am trying to make a lil plat, I’m asking <refrence p99 green wiki for going prices and go low> But will gladly accept <high price>”
loramin
04-23-2021, 04:17 PM
For sure cooking and fishing. Train baking to 21, make wooly spider crunches (1 spider legs, not spiderling and one frosting) then make steaks to 41 and sell for 2-5pp each then make beer braised stuff to 68 and sell for 5-10pp each.
It’s a lot of work, check vendors for wolf/bear/cat ect meat and spider legs: it’s worth it.
Also keep an eye out for 50+ spells on random vendors: I bought a 56 Druid spell breath of karana a few days ago for 26p and sold it for 300 just by /who all Druid 54-56 and being polite “/t hello, are you busy?I just started playing again and I found a <name of spell you found> for you on a vendor and am trying to make a lil plat, I’m asking <refrence p99 green wiki for going prices and go low> But will gladly accept <high price>”
Some clever ideas in this thread!
However, I'm going to offer a contrarian answer: you don't need plat. If you just loot what you kill and sell that loot, you will have enough for all of your important spells. Also, especially in places like Blackburrow, looting what you kill will give you a free suit of leather armor.
Between that leather armor and any other wearable loot you find, you will do just fine, all the way from 1-45+ (when you'll maybe want to start thinking about picking up some of the cheaper Jaundiced Bone pieces, or possibly even saving up for an epic tear or JBB).
For Shaman (and really for all non-melee classes) the difference between having 100 more AC/HP/mana/whatever ... and not, is almost imperceptible. But if you take all the time you would have spent acquiring better gear, and instead spend it leveling, you will get many levels ... and I promise you will notice those.
TLDR; Get plat and gear if it's fun for you: this is a game after all. But if you want to do things fast/most efficiently, don't even think about making money, and instead just focus on leveling ... and then when you're higher level, you'll be able to earn plat orders of magnitude faster (resulting in gear that actually matters).
cd288
04-23-2021, 06:20 PM
Some clever ideas in this thread!
However, I'm going to offer a contrarian answer: you don't need plat. If you just loot what you kill and sell that loot, you will have enough for all of your important spells. Also, especially in places like Blackburrow, looting what you kill will give you a free suit of leather armor.
Between that leather armor and any other wearable loot you find, you will do just fine, all the way from 1-45+ (when you'll maybe want to start thinking about picking up some of the cheaper Jaundiced Bone pieces, or possibly even saving up for an epic tear or JBB).
For Shaman (and really for all non-melee classes) the difference between having 100 more AC/HP/mana/whatever ... and not, is almost imperceptible. But if you take all the time you would have spent acquiring better gear, and instead spend it leveling, you will get many levels ... and I promise you will notice those.
TLDR; Get plat and gear if it's fun for you: this is a game after all. But if you want to do things fast/most efficiently, don't even think about making money, and instead just focus on leveling ... and then when you're higher level, you'll be able to earn plat orders of magnitude faster (resulting in gear that actually matters).
From a very basic perspective sure. But the higher the WIS the greater your mana pool, which is pretty important especially for like up to level 35 when Shamans can be effective main healers in addition to being expected to buff/debuff in groups. If you plan to employ canni dancing as a technique down the line your STA will be pretty important as well. You’re right that you technically can level with basic gear and survive, but the difference will be noticeable the higher level you get.
Byrjun
04-23-2021, 07:33 PM
Also, especially in places like Blackburrow, looting what you kill will give you a free suit of leather armor.
Unfortunately the gnolls in Blackburrow don't drop leather, except for the commander which can drop raw hide sometimes.
You can however do the Cindl's Polar Bear Collection (https://wiki.project1999.com/Cindl%27s_Polar_Bear_Collection) quest for some patchwork armor. It's not as good as leather or even raw-hide, but at least you won't look naked.
The number #1 priority is making sure you have enough money to afford your spells. They're expensive and a lot more important than gear.
But while we're on the topic of armor and tradeskills, it could be worth the effort of crafting your own set of banded armor. Banded is a great baseline set of armor and will last you awhile. It'll be a bit cheaper to buy a set off another player, or you can spend a bit more and craft it yourself and get the Blacksmithing skillups. Up to you how you want to go about it.
Gnoll fangs are really powerful, nothing else really beats them for early leveling so you should farm them for awhile. Eventually you'll have to move on to the Freeport region, but you could also extend Qeynos a bit by grouping at the bandits in West Karana if you can find people. The sashes they drop are also excellent exp + money.
You'll also probably want to pick up some Alligator's Tooth Earrings (https://wiki.project1999.com/Alligator_Tooth_Earring) and Limestone Rings (https://wiki.project1999.com/Limestone_Ring) from the Qeynos Aqueducts.
loramin
04-23-2021, 09:14 PM
From a very basic perspective sure. But the higher the WIS the greater your mana pool, which is pretty important especially for like up to level 35 when Shamans can be effective main healers in addition to being expected to buff/debuff in groups. If you plan to employ canni dancing as a technique down the line your STA will be pretty important as well. You’re right that you technically can level with basic gear and survive, but the difference will be noticeable the higher level you get.
Maximums matter, but not very much. How often does the following happen to you: A) you started at max mana, B) you burned through your entire mana pool before having any break, C) you lived or died based the final spell you cast?
I'm not saying it never happens, but player skill/effort matters a million times more than whether you have a few more stat points (emphasis on "few", because non-twink gear won't be giving huge stat boosts).
Unfortunately the gnolls in Blackburrow don't drop leather, except for the commander which can drop raw hide sometimes.
My monk was getting rawhide off of non-boss gnolls the other day. I don't remember which, but I specifically remember it happening, because it annoyed me: all of it was size large, which meant he couldn't wear it.
(Or maybe it was off the nearby WK bandits? But I'm pretty sure it was the BB gnolls.)
In either case, technically rawhide is a leather class armor (in the leather/chain/plate sense) ;).
fjaenal
04-24-2021, 06:32 AM
Really interesting points here, thanks a lot. I have started the Gnoll dentist business (lvl 7 and already got 12 teeth. As for the tradeskill, I am going to wait until I have more cash on me. (Yesterday a shamman buffed me and throw a good markup on the Polar hides I was selling) :).
Thanks for the discussion and all the information.
Kirgi
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