Live 90 rogue 3100AA

[ooantipostoo]

Removed.

[Slyfox]

RMT (Real Money Trade) Sales
Any trading of any in-game objects for real life currency, including but not limited to coin, items, and characters, is not permitted. This is a global server rule as well, and people caught performing these transactions will have all characters involved banned from the server.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35747

[ooantipostoo]

Not selling for cash.

[Slyfox]

A+ for not even reading what was posted - Have fun with a GM instead.

[snwbrdr642]

A+ for not even reading what was posted - Have fun with a GM instead.

you're reading the rule wrong dood.

[quido]

trading Jeremy for cigarettes pst

[anthony210]

Slyfox, you might want to try reading what YOU wrote again. That says you cannot trade items, coin, or characters for real life cash. It does not say you cant trade accounts on other games for accounts/plat here.

[Slyfox]

He is trading a character with real-life value for project 1999 items or plat. That is RMT. You will all see once a GM posts here.

[shdwdrake8]

What makes his character on live have real life value vs a p1999?

Fail logic is fail.

[Lazortag]

It is RMT - this has been confirmed by GM's/Devs in several threads before. Perhaps someone should clarify it in the sticky in this forum so that no one tries to use this excuse again.

Proof:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=183788&postcount=19

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=216430&postcount=9

[ooantipostoo]

Ahh ok, I will remove I apologize.

[ooantipostoo]

It is RMT - this has been confirmed by GM's/Devs in several threads before. Perhaps someone should clarify it in the sticky in this forum so that no one tries to use this excuse again.

Proof:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=183788&postcount=19

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=216430&postcount=9

The think is its not a real life object, its an account just like a project 199 account. I don't see how this is any different. I'm not trying to make any real life profit from this.

[snwbrdr642]

What makes his character on live have real life value vs a p1999?

Fail logic is fail.

[Slyfox]

It is RMT - this has been confirmed by GM's/Devs in several threads before. Perhaps someone should clarify it in the sticky in this forum so that no one tries to use this excuse again.

Proof:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=183788&postcount=19

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=216430&postcount=9

Vindicated and it feels so good.

[Lazortag]

The think is its not a real life object, its an account just like a project 199 account. I don't see how this is any different. I'm not trying to make any real life profit from this.

Are you disagreeing about what the rules should be, or about what the rules are? If you read the threads I linked it's very clear what the rules are. If you want to discuss what the rules should be, this probably isn't the right forum for it.

[ooantipostoo]

Are you disagreeing about what the rules should be, or about what the rules are? If you read the threads I linked it's very clear what the rules are. If you want to discuss what the rules should be, this probably isn't the right forum for it.

Didn't see the link to the rules within the post you linked at first. I totally understand.

[soup]

The think is its not a real life object, its an account just like a project 199 account. I don't see how this is any different. I'm not trying to make any real life profit from this.

A live EQ (or most any MMO) account is easily converted to cash, and there are websites that specialize in doing so.

[anthony210]

A P99 account is easily converted to cash as well, you just cant admit you paid cash for it nor can you use these boards to create an auction. But I can tell you for sure that accounts are bought and sold using RMT on this server.

I dont condone it, but I am sure it happens.

[soup]

A P99 account is easily converted to cash as well, you just cant admit you paid cash for it nor can you use these boards to create an auction. But I can tell you for sure that accounts are bought and sold using RMT on this server.

I dont condone it, but I am sure it happens.

What do you think is easier to convert to cash, a p99 account where the person would need to advertise it under the radar and has a high chance of getting caught and banned, or a live account, where there is pretty much no risk involved as well as there being websites dedicated to advertising said accounts?

[Skope]

What do you think is easier to convert to cash, a p99 account where the person would need to advertise it under the radar and has a high chance of getting caught and banned, or a live account, where there is pretty much no risk involved as well as there being websites dedicated to advertising said accounts?

a better question would be why in the hell you seem to think he's going to do that or if that's even a thought going through his head?

Foggy situation is foggy. It's one thing to say don't trade live accounts because it deals with sony, and this being p99 and considering the nature of the way p99 works that's perfectly understandable. But saying don't trade EQ live accounts because it implies RMT behavior is a bigger stretch.

[soup]

a better question would be why in the hell you seem to think he's going to do that or if that's even a thought going through his head?

Foggy situation is foggy. It's one thing to say don't trade live accounts because it deals with sony, and this being p99 and considering the nature of the way p99 works that's perfectly understandable. But saying don't trade EQ live accounts because it implies RMT behavior is a bigger stretch.

....what? Where did I say or imply I thought he was participating in RMT behavior? I was responding to his post where he asked WHY trading live accounts is not allowed, and I was answering him. The fact that they deal with Sony is NOT why it isn't allowed (but it sure doesn't help.) That is easily confirmed by the fact you can't trade stuff on p99 for WoW accounts or Rift accounts or other accounts in no way associated with Sony.

[Skope]

I'm saying it's a weaker argument. Not disagreeing with you, but saying your argument is weak.


A live EQ (or most any MMO) account is easily converted to cash, and there are websites that specialize in doing so.

i suppose you can say you implied it by the fact that it's easy and therefore should be banned. Either way, weak argument is weak.

[soup]

I'm saying it's a weaker argument. Not disagreeing with you, but saying your argument is weak.




i suppose you can say you implied it by the fact that it's easy and therefore should be banned. Either way, weak argument is weak.

...what are you even talking about? The dude asked why he can't trade a live account for a p99 account, so I told him why they have that policy. I made absolutely no claim about how it should or shouldn't be, just how it is. If you're trying to debate how things should be, you're barking up the wrong tree, because I'm not interested in that debate at all.

If they allowed people to trade live accounts for p99 accounts, then they would be allowing an easy avenue for people to convert their p99 stuff into cash. Converting your p99 stuff to cash = big no-no. It's just that simple.

[Daldolma]

Someone should probably mention the fact that an EQ Live account requires a subscription, which has RL money value. I can't say for certain, but I believe you'd be allowed to trade an account from another free server or an account on this one. The point is that an EQ Live account is worth the cost of the subscription, multiplied by the amount of time it took to develop the characters on that account. For a level 90 character with 3k AAs, most flags, and raid gear, that's hundreds of dollars.

The cost of developing a level 60 char with BiS gear on p99 is $0.00. Hence, RMT.

[bakkily]

you still cant trade him, can only trade stuff of THIS servers worth, this server