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starkind
05-05-2021, 12:52 PM
Both results in a fascist autocratic elite that control all production, social mobility, and force dependence through authoritarian practices. The dominance of the individual for either the benefit of the national state or corporate profit and control.

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 01:02 PM
no

G13
05-05-2021, 01:02 PM
no

HalflingSpergand
05-05-2021, 01:15 PM
I think mostly ya but capitalism is a little more enjoyable for the participants who want to work their ass off

myrddraal
05-05-2021, 01:23 PM
I think mostly ya but capitalism is a little more enjoyable for the participants who want to work their ass off

The system is pretty clearly rigged for those who already have money. An increase in capital gains taxes will help rectify some of the disparity and I am absolutely loving the poor holding out and realizing they shouldn't have to accept jobs that pay poverty wages. I'm really hoping unions make a strong come back now that everyone is realizing the peanuts they thought they were given before were only empty shells. I also love how people say corporations arent people when it comes to paying taxes, but they are in terms of writing legislation. Big laugh.

starkind
05-05-2021, 01:57 PM
You don't really realize how shitty your government is until your cooking your empenadas with gutter oil and then the food safety police smash your stand into the ground and beat you. Then when you get out of prison Walmart sells you basil seeds for $2.57 and it's illegal to sell your own groceries on your front lawn.

Fuck the government and fuck the corporations that profit from the government.

HalflingSpergand
05-05-2021, 01:58 PM
I think mostly ya but capitalism is a little more enjoyable for the participants who want to work their ass off

Maybe a little but i started with jack shit my parents didn't give me anything except a middle finger and I'm basically a handsome millionaire now

HalflingSpergand
05-05-2021, 01:59 PM
You don't really realize how shitty your government is until your cooking your empenadas with gutter oil and then the food safety police smash your stand into the ground and beat you. Then when you get out of prison Walmart sells you basil seeds for $2.57 and it's illegal to sell your own groceries on your front lawn.

Fuck the government and fuck the corporations that profit from the government.

Haha truth

starkind
05-05-2021, 02:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/uJQ8pnb.jpg

When u can literally shit on and lose millions of your customers and then trademark troll a kids show into the ground (https://www.destructoid.com/stories/blizzard-opposes-fox-media-s-use-of-diablo-for-housebroken-merch-628043.phtml) and STILL increase ur revenue. U are doing pretty good and our government is enabling this behavior in health care and supermarkets.

Fat chance doing anything with your life as a homeless tranny other than sucking dicks until u succumb to HIV. Wonder why so many young men are going nuts and shooting ppl?

Key pvp words:get shit on scrub.

Jibartik
05-05-2021, 02:26 PM
Pretty sure the secret sauce for Capitalism is Christian values and if you remove those you get the Blade Runner version.

Cecily
05-05-2021, 02:56 PM
Pretty sure the secret sauce for Capitalism is Christian values and if you remove those you get the Blade Runner version.

The problem with our present dystopia boils down to a lack of neon lights.

FatherSioux
05-05-2021, 03:02 PM
The system is pretty clearly rigged for those who already have money. An increase in capital gains taxes will help rectify some of the disparity and I am absolutely loving the poor holding out and realizing they shouldn't have to accept jobs that pay poverty wages. I'm really hoping unions make a strong come back now that everyone is realizing the peanuts they thought they were given before were only empty shells. I also love how people say corporations arent people when it comes to paying taxes, but they are in terms of writing legislation. Big laugh.

Unions are trash and they aren't needed. The game is rigged for people with money, sure. The game is also rigged for people who get off their ass and work hard. The system really favors intellect and risk taking.

The beauty is you can make money money that your dad, then your kid does the same and viola! Now your kids start with money and have advantages. Sorry that your parents were trash and you don't see the way out.

starkind
05-05-2021, 03:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/P3swmbC.jpg

Gg.

myrddraal
05-05-2021, 03:11 PM
Unions are trash and they aren't needed. The game is rigged for people with money, sure. The game is also rigged for people who get off their ass and work hard. The system really favors intellect and risk taking.

The beauty is you can make money money that your dad, then your kid does the same and viola! Now your kids start with money and have advantages. Sorry that your parents were trash and you don't see the way out.

Unions are trash, you're right. Having 40 hour work weeks, overtime, sick days, vacation, wrongful termination, OSHA safety standards, paternity and maternity leave, retirement plans, child labor laws, those are all stupid things. What a brilliant take.

G13
05-05-2021, 03:14 PM
Unions are trash, you're right. Having 40 hour work weeks, overtime, sick days, vacation, wrongful termination, OSHA safety standards, paternity and maternity leave, retirement plans, child labor laws, those are all stupid things. What a brilliant take.

Who pays for all that?

FatherSioux
05-05-2021, 03:19 PM
Unions are trash, you're right. Having 40 hour work weeks, overtime, sick days, vacation, wrongful termination, OSHA safety standards, paternity and maternity leave, retirement plans, child labor laws, those are all stupid things. What a brilliant take.

I was in a Union once, the only thing it did is protect shit workers. Those shit workers who aren't dealt with pass the onus onto the other non-shit workers.

Here is a gem I heard from some union tradesmen

FatherSioux "What are we up to today?"

UnionSlobs "As little as I can for as long as it takes"

Botten
05-05-2021, 03:26 PM
To the poor; life and these times are so hard
And it's getting even harder tryna feed and water my seed, plus
Teeter totter, caught up between bein' a good husband and a father

If I stay in one spot, I won't amount
But race and education always count me out
Doomed to end up in jail or shot

F'it rob the rich; cuz with Republicans in power helping programs, I am without.

myrddraal
05-05-2021, 03:29 PM
Who pays for all that?

People like Bezos. Who could clearly spare some more. Unions are great. It saddened me that Amazon didn't unionize.

Wrekt
05-05-2021, 03:48 PM
Pretty sure the secret sauce for Capitalism is Christian values and if you remove those you get the Blade Runner version.

christian... values... are you fucking kidding?

Horza
05-05-2021, 03:52 PM
christian... values... are you fucking kidding?

Who needs collective bargaining when you've got Christ on your side?

Wrekt
05-05-2021, 03:53 PM
Who pays for all that?

Not the wealthy or corporations, you dumb fuck.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/12/09/americas-three-richest-people-are-now-positioned-to-pay-zero-state-income-tax/?sh=70345c727b63

https://publicintegrity.org/inequality-poverty-opportunity/taxes/trumps-tax-cuts/you-paid-taxes-these-corporations-didnt/

But, I guess those HUGE fucking corporations/billionaires don't have any effect on the roads and bridges. I'm sure they NEEEEVER need law enforcement. I'm sure their HUGE factories NEVER catch on fire. Yeah, fuck it. They shouldn't pay taxes and we, the taxpayers, should continue to give them all our money because they let us piss in a bottle as a bathroom break and the government, US DUMBASSES, subsidize their corporations not only through tax breaks, but through paying their workers' rent and giving them food stamps.

But yeah, ask me again who pays for it. WE DO, YOU DUMB BITCH! THE RICH TAKE IT ALL LIKE SMAUG

Jibartik
05-05-2021, 03:54 PM
Im not, its actually a part of the invention of capitalism.

With the invention of capitalism the effects of that economic theory were challenged more than you know, one major argument in its favor was maintaining Christian values (this was a Christian nation mind you that invented the economic theory that brought value to your pathetic life, and mine) and the values of morality being > the logic based values was what keeps someone from benefiting the shareholders over god.

The threat of eternal damination is the only way you could keep people in line, and when you get rid of it you end up with eugenics.

G13
05-05-2021, 04:47 PM
Not the wealthy or corporations, you dumb fuck.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/12/09/americas-three-richest-people-are-now-positioned-to-pay-zero-state-income-tax/?sh=70345c727b63

https://publicintegrity.org/inequality-poverty-opportunity/taxes/trumps-tax-cuts/you-paid-taxes-these-corporations-didnt/

But, I guess those HUGE fucking corporations/billionaires don't have any effect on the roads and bridges. I'm sure they NEEEEVER need law enforcement. I'm sure their HUGE factories NEVER catch on fire. Yeah, fuck it. They shouldn't pay taxes and we, the taxpayers, should continue to give them all our money because they let us piss in a bottle as a bathroom break and the government, US DUMBASSES, subsidize their corporations not only through tax breaks, but through paying their workers' rent and giving them food stamps.

But yeah, ask me again who pays for it. WE DO, YOU DUMB BITCH! THE RICH TAKE IT ALL LIKE SMAUG

Triggered

starkind
05-05-2021, 05:05 PM
Im not, its actually a part of the invention of capitalism.

With the invention of capitalism the effects of that economic theory were challenged more than you know, one major argument in its favor was maintaining Christian values (this was a Christian nation mind you that invented the economic theory that brought value to your pathetic life, and mine) and the values of morality being > the logic based values was what keeps someone from benefiting the shareholders over god.

The threat of eternal damination is the only way you could keep people in line, and when you get rid of it you end up with eugenics.

Eugene is already calling the shots up at admin, corporate. Just don't run a camp for the homeless. Yet.

The only way Christianity is serving us, is helping some of us bare the cross. Capitalism isn't Christian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudor_Monastery_Farm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secrets_of_the_Castle

Jibartik
05-05-2021, 05:13 PM
In the 20th century the free market proved superior for meeting human needs than socialism. Yet many Christians, rightly concerned about the poor, blame capitalism for the world's ills. However arguments are made that the biblical Kingdom of Heaven does not come through enforced government economic plans. Rather, it derives from virtuous, hardworking men and women who strive to abolish poverty through acts of charity. While some government safety nets may be in order, government redistribution of wealth is usually a disincentive for production, lowering economic production and exacerbating social problems.

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 05:13 PM
Not the wealthy or corporations, you dumb fuck.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/12/09/americas-three-richest-people-are-now-positioned-to-pay-zero-state-income-tax/?sh=70345c727b63

https://publicintegrity.org/inequality-poverty-opportunity/taxes/trumps-tax-cuts/you-paid-taxes-these-corporations-didnt/

But, I guess those HUGE fucking corporations/billionaires don't have any effect on the roads and bridges. I'm sure they NEEEEVER need law enforcement. I'm sure their HUGE factories NEVER catch on fire. Yeah, fuck it. They shouldn't pay taxes and we, the taxpayers, should continue to give them all our money because they let us piss in a bottle as a bathroom break and the government, US DUMBASSES, subsidize their corporations not only through tax breaks, but through paying their workers' rent and giving them food stamps.

But yeah, ask me again who pays for it. WE DO, YOU DUMB BITCH! THE RICH TAKE IT ALL LIKE SMAUG

There are taxes other than income.

Horza
05-05-2021, 05:18 PM
In the 20th century the free market proved superior for meeting human needs than socialism. Yet many Christians, rightly concerned about the poor, blame capitalism for the world's ills. However arguments are made that the biblical Kingdom of Heaven does not come through enforced government economic plans. Rather, it derives from virtuous, hardworking men and women who strive to abolish poverty through acts of charity. While some government safety nets may be in order, government redistribution of wealth is usually a disincentive for production, lowering economic production and exacerbating social problems.

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Jibartik
05-05-2021, 05:20 PM
https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/kahane-socialism-an-economic-and-sociological-analysis

Yes. There is in fact a wealth of historical information on this planet.

Horza
05-05-2021, 05:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/YclWvkO.jpg

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 05:26 PM
https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/kahane-socialism-an-economic-and-sociological-analysis

Yes. There is in fact a wealth of historical information on this planet.

Ew Mises

You know who else was Austrian?

Jibartik
05-05-2021, 05:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xorQRMY.png

Danth
05-05-2021, 05:47 PM
Communists can get bent, if for no other reason than for providing the Laissez-Faire hard-line capitalists someone the latter group can stand beside and say, "Look! We're not as bad as that guy!" I don't subscribe to ANY single economic theory. Extremism seldom has good results. Instead i pick and choose what works from anyplace I can, regardless of point of origin.

Danth

starkind
05-05-2021, 05:50 PM
We have a slave based economy and we kill and throw people away unless there's a way to capitalize on them. The only pro is that it's somewhat meritorious but not really. My managers at Walmart weren't good at the game, they just had more DKP and RA and had more debt from afk grinding community College. The organization itself is horrifically inefficient and none of that money went back into the community. The people who worked there fail miserably with a high turnover and the community just ended up picking up the pieces and taking care of them anyway.

I would argue that it costs a city more per Walmart and there's certainly no Christian ethics at corporate. We'd be better off without the government or Walmart. We're just forced to live like this because we can't defend ourselves from five eyes and nuclear power and rfid chips.

Just give it another decade. Even you who are comfortable will not be able to close your eyes and write it off.

P.s. I am not lazy. I was a crazy Army dude with a badass BMI and physically the top 10 percent. Never did drugs. And mastered the Jedi arts. All of you look like ignorant, sloppy, lazy peasants who can't even dress, walk, or eat right to me.

Nocht
05-05-2021, 06:09 PM
Orks from 40k have the best societal platform. We need to find a way to regrow our teefs and move to a toof based exchange model.

Jibartik
05-05-2021, 06:12 PM
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Baler
05-05-2021, 06:20 PM
a poor person says capitalism is bad, but a rich person says capitalism is good.
a non-communist says the communist party is bad, a community party member says the communist party is good.

Except........
With capitalism you can become rich. If the communist party doesn't like you, you won't ever be shit.

The moral of the story,
don't look at the sky with your mouth open when it's raining.

G13
05-05-2021, 06:27 PM
If the communist party doesn't like you, you won't ever be shit.

More like dumped in a mass grave or shipped off to a Labor Camp

starkind
05-05-2021, 06:45 PM
I'm not advocating communism. I think authoritarian governments are shit ideologically. I'm just say our government is actually creating a lot of the poverty, and keeping people from competing with Blizzard, Amazon, Hollywood, Walmart, AT&T, China, etc. What r the big healthcare co's? Kaiser, Blue Cross, Red Shield?

Then there's Medicare/caid. And they're seriously not helping the situation. Or markets.

Anyway I'm done ranting. My eyeballs won't be popping next time the CAPITOL is Stormfronted.

Also none of you caught my misspelling of capitalism in thread title.

Baler
05-05-2021, 06:47 PM
I think authoritarian governments are shit...

They are.

No one wants to live under a tyrannical government.

A Knight
05-05-2021, 06:56 PM
Pretty sure the secret sauce for Capitalism is Christian values and if you remove those you get the Blade Runner version.

Without Christian moral values, there would be no Paladins. Come on do you really want to always be a Shadowknight? And Dwarves can't be Shadowknights.

Baler
05-05-2021, 06:58 PM
Without Christian moral values, there would be no Paladins. Come on do you really want to always be a Shadowknight? And Dwarves can't be Shadowknights.

Fun fact china removed everything before the Mao dynasty from Chinese taught history, essentially wiping out religion. and morals there within.

A Knight
05-05-2021, 07:02 PM
Why would you erase Chinese history. That's huge propaganda value. That's like not teaching Italians about Rome.

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:06 PM
Why would you erase Chinese history. That's huge propaganda value.

Why would "George Washington" create the new world.
Learn History.

That's like not teaching Italians about Rome.
Rome never fell, it became the Vatican.
Learn History.

A Knight
05-05-2021, 07:09 PM
Why would "George Washington" create the new world

Cuz Kings are stupid.

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:10 PM
Cuz Kings are stupid.

Hail to the king baby, Praise be to god.
https://i.imgur.com/yVziOsB.jpg

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 07:13 PM
Fun fact china removed everything before the Mao dynasty from Chinese taught history, essentially wiping out religion. and morals there within.

Legalism is pretty congruent with commienism, ur wrong

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:14 PM
Legalism is pretty congruent with commienism, ur wrong

https://i.imgur.com/tvlqsgd.gif

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 07:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/tvlqsgd.gif

https://i.imgur.com/P1EGg6U.jpg

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/P1EGg6U.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xZiqyEV.jpg

Don't drag the rest of us down with your ________.
Stick to Rants and Flames if you can't keep up.

A Knight
05-05-2021, 07:18 PM
Hmmm... *scratches head*

How do I keep going with the trolling convo without sounding super pissed? Will this work?


Yea, surrounded by people behind their times, but he was still ahead of his time, even if he was kinda a dick. Its ok we will Mormon baptize him and hook him up Christina Milian.


/shrugs

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:20 PM
Hmmm... *scratches head*

How do I keep going with the trolling convo without sounding super pissed? Will this work?


Yea, surrounded by people behind their times, but he was still ahead of his time, even if he was kinda a dick. Its ok we will Mormon baptize him and hook him up Christina Milian.


/shrugs

George Washington is a figure head of the New World. That is America.
China had to re-evaluate their plans to the future due to this shift in global world power.

hope this helps.

A Knight
05-05-2021, 07:23 PM
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about lol. I'm just continuing to go with it.

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:25 PM
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about lol. I'm just continuing to go with it.

Have you heard of the Great Experiment? (united states)

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 07:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xZiqyEV.jpg

Don't drag the rest of us down with your ________.
Stick to Rants and Flames if you can't keep up.

Legalist discourse is seeing a resurgence during the leadership of Xi Jinping, who is the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China

https://i.imgur.com/wrSNVss.jpg

A Knight
05-05-2021, 07:28 PM
Can I walk away now? I feel like if I don't keep answering the questions... something something...


*steps back slowly*

Baler
05-05-2021, 07:29 PM
Pulgasari is a troll, he will drag any topic into a shit pool. Covered in crap he laughs.

Pulgasari
05-05-2021, 07:31 PM
Pulgasari is a troll, he will drag any topic into a shit pool. Covered in crap he laughs.

I'm perfectly on topic in this one.

Baler
05-05-2021, 08:04 PM
One of the quintessential capitalist songs.
Peter Gabriel - Big Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBAl9cchQac)

Make Big Money, Be Remembered Big Time, Live big forever.

This is the shit that people like George Washington knew about and set the foundation for. This is why you know who people like George Washington are. They will live for immortality,. so long as America lives on.

The biggest quest is to set yourself in immortality. This is why people why want to be president of the USA, it IMMORTALIZES them. No one can live forever, but you can be forever remembered.

Think about Pharaophs,. major slave owners. but remembered forever as kings.
Hitler, a horrible person,. but remembered until the next immoral person steps forth.
Vlad the impaler, before hitler he was satan...

Who do you want to be. Wake the fuck up.
You are a sheep keep bahhing in your pen bitch.

Jibartik
05-05-2021, 09:28 PM
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Horza
05-05-2021, 09:32 PM
One of the quintessential capitalist songs.
Peter Gabriel - Big Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBAl9cchQac)

Make Big Money, Be Remembered Big Time, Live big forever.

This is the shit that people like George Washington knew about and set the foundation for. This is why you know who people like George Washington are. They will live for immortality,. so long as America lives on.

The biggest quest is to set yourself in immortality. This is why people why want to be president of the USA, it IMMORTALIZES them. No one can live forever, but you can be forever remembered.

Think about Pharaophs,. major slave owners. but remembered forever as kings.
Hitler, a horrible person,. but remembered until the next immoral person steps forth.
Vlad the impaler, before hitler he was satan...

Who do you want to be. Wake the fuck up.
You are a sheep keep bahhing in your pen bitch.

https://i.imgur.com/xZiqyEV.jpg

Nocht
05-06-2021, 12:12 AM
They need to make an mmorpg about politics. It should be like this:

starkind
05-06-2021, 09:57 AM
You just rendered a wow or everquest live scene.

Jibartik
05-06-2021, 11:48 AM
lol

Nocht
05-06-2021, 05:33 PM
You just rendered a wow or everquest live scene.

Omg its so true XD