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Tunabros
05-06-2021, 04:02 AM
GODDAMN
its pretty fun
I might even switch
you all playing this shit? I'm hitting myself for not discovering it sooner
who knew boxing was so fun :eek::rolleyes:
currently rocking a druid/necro 2 box might add a enchanter
nostalgiaquest
05-06-2021, 04:34 AM
been thinking about it myself to be honest
Jibartik
05-06-2021, 04:43 AM
who knew boxing was so fun :eek::rolleyes:
haha oh man that sweet sweet taste of your first opioid prescription
Baler
05-06-2021, 06:53 AM
I play Takp, its the best luclin/planes of power emu server available in my opinion.
https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php
https://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Getting_Started
Just make sure you read the takp rules, they're not exactly the same as P99's rules.
https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/rules-101.7/
yeah yeah,.. not classic/boxxing. Don't kick it till you try it.
HalflingSpergand
05-06-2021, 09:09 AM
Takp is really cool. Not as classic and boxing is lil too much for me but still cool
FatherSioux
05-06-2021, 10:52 AM
Takp is really cool. Not as classic and boxing is lil too much for me but still cool
Confirmed dumb.
HalflingSpergand
05-06-2021, 10:58 AM
Too much for me to roleplay obviously. I can master any task(playing a fuckin gay ass video game) It's not immersive at all to play two elves. Sorry ur old lady wont put out
Super super smart and handsome here, thanks
Snortles Chortles
05-06-2021, 11:09 AM
tunabros discovers the joys of playing with himself
(LOL)
starkind
05-06-2021, 02:26 PM
Too much for me to roleplay obviously. I can master any task(playing a fuckin gay ass video game) It's not immersive at all to play two elves. Sorry ur old lady wont put out
Super super smart and handsome here, thanks
tunabros discovers the joys of playing with himself
(LOL)
starkind
05-06-2021, 02:38 PM
Takp is pretty good. My goal there would be buff bots, not to box rly.
Ppl go overboard farming plat tho and using bazaar equip to get single grp gear or don't rly invite ppl to camp fbss, same problems as green in this regard.
Never tried to raid, my wiz is stuck at 55 with great gear and quad spells and easy access to mgbs.
There's definitely something about the boxing and gear trivilizing content that ruins immersion making it just an exercise in plat farming and maybe raiding with two characters at once after a year of that?
Just hard for me to invest long term, 2 years out, even tho my present character is already almost that old.
There's just something incoherent that has nothing to do with the Vah'shir.
Shawk
05-06-2021, 03:08 PM
There's definitely something about the boxing and gear trivilizing content that ruins immersion making it just an exercise in plat farming and maybe raiding with two characters at once after a year of that?
its the small things
and since soe introduced a little thing called instancing the entire genre went to poopdiapers, procedural generated content, bazaar.. "Material Instancing".. its all poop
Jibartik
05-06-2021, 03:10 PM
there is a direct correlation with heroin overdose and boxing.
Bardp1999
05-06-2021, 05:38 PM
I always wanted to play a Beastlord, I might give it a whirl. Would BL and Bard be decent combo or nah?
My EQ knowledge stops at Velious
Snortles Chortles
05-06-2021, 05:46 PM
u mean faylord
starkind
05-06-2021, 05:56 PM
U can be a wood elf beastlord on live. I think their pet is a treant.
Bhairava
05-06-2021, 06:18 PM
i always assumed takp was just a weirdo drugbox server
i used to play an iksar beastlord with the scaled wolf pet way back like 150 years ago it was cool
starkind
05-06-2021, 06:19 PM
i always assumed takp was just a weirdo drugbox server
i used to play an iksar beastlord with the scaled wolf pet way back like 150 years ago it was cool
Naw it's stable and run by OGs.
FatherSioux
05-06-2021, 06:30 PM
All flavors of EQ players attract the dregs of society. This being the bottom of
the barrel.
I thought about trying but never have. I refuse to box, Smurf or cheat in a game though. It's the unholy trinity
I see TAKP on server list when I'm logging into p99. Can I just create forum & game account and use the same client as for p99 or do I need a different client?
starkind
05-06-2021, 10:21 PM
I see TAKP on server list when I'm logging into p99. Can I just create forum & game account and use the same client as for p99 or do I need a different client?
U need the mac client with a pc patch if ur on pc. Titanium won't.
Shawk
05-06-2021, 10:21 PM
I see TAKP on server list when I'm logging into p99. Can I just create forum & game account and use the same client as for p99 or do I need a different client?
dif client, dif login.
https://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Getting_Started
HalflingSpergand
05-06-2021, 10:25 PM
Better client actually
Thanks all!
Anyone tried TAKP on Linux? I see it is the same as with P99, using Wine, just curious what is your experience, easy or hard to get it working with Wine?
Tunabros
05-07-2021, 12:36 AM
yup took me like 10 minutes to set it up (including download time)
client never crashed once
but you might have to close wineq2 if you have it open since it makes the client
run out of memory or something like idk
yup took me like 10 minutes to set it up (including download time)
client never crashed once
but you might have to close wineq2 if you have it open since it makes the client
run out of memory or something like idk
OK great, thanks
Knuckle
05-07-2021, 08:26 AM
Looks fun I enjoyed PoP back in the day but wouldn't go back to that type of game.
Better client actually
I watched one video, nice textures
starkind
05-07-2021, 09:07 AM
the classic sky is to die for.. RIP I log on still every now and then to attempt to relive the classic drama.
I'm probably just scared to commit to it cuz i'll love it there.
The reality is I would devote my time between a tru vanilla box, Modern wow, and modern EQ probably the only MMOs that still matter.
All the rest are just wierd to me.
When registering first, forum account, does actual CAPTCHA entry window pops up? It does not for me.
Or is Captcha this question:
"Verification: What game is this?"
If yes, what is the answer? I tried several combinations, TAKP, takproject, The Al'Kabor Project, etc but can't get past capitcha thingie. I don't have any pop up blocker instaled. Vanilla Firefox browser.
I'm sorry for asking here, but can't create forum account to ask there lol ;-)
starkind
05-07-2021, 02:14 PM
Everquest ?
Everquest ?
That was it, lol, I focused too much on TAKP variations :)
Baler
05-07-2021, 06:03 PM
Magician Pets on Takp are amazing. They proc a lot and do a bunch of damage.
:D
Mage Epic is ~150-200k on takp, not 1million+ like on p99.
Magician Pets on Takp are amazing. They proc a lot and do a bunch of damage.
Mage Epic is ~150-200k on takp, not 1million+ like on p99.
Good to know!
Would you know, comparable to Beastlords pet, is Mage's pet stronger? Probably, since Mage can't melee like Beastlord. I was thinking to try Beastlord since that one would be new to me and I would have melee class for sort of tank for my group... (Beastlord, Druid, Cleric)?
starkind
05-07-2021, 08:38 PM
Mage pets are tankier. Bst tank for their pets with gear and aa.
A mage/bst duo wouldn't be terrible.
Bst can haste and slow like a lower lvl shm but probably can't really heal mage pet.
Swapping a mage for a bst in a trio doesn't sound horrible either. But there is a lot of buffing involved to get the most out of a bst.
Bst, pally, dru would probably be coool :cool:
Patriam1066
05-07-2021, 08:39 PM
Boxing is stupid. Seek Christ
Baler
05-07-2021, 08:41 PM
Good to know!
Would you know, comparable to Beastlords pet, is Mage's pet stronger? Probably, since Mage can't melee like Beastlord. I was thinking to try Beastlord since that one would be new to me and I would have melee class for sort of tank for my group... (Beastlord, Druid, Cleric)?
Mage pets are stronger than Beastlord pets. However Beastlord pets get amazing proc / Dex buffs and are proc machines too.
Beastlord is a very good class to start with.
bst/dru/clr is a 100% perfect starting trio.
Bst offers tank/pet tank + slow + buffs
dru offers ports, DS, buffs and very good heals
clr offers rez, buffs and CH
Once you get this trio to 60, you can easily powerlevel any other class you want to play.
Bst, pally, dru would probably be coool :cool:
Well, based on how much i'm dying, (I have an indisputable record number of deaths on green and red server, just can't prove it lol) Cleric is a must in my case :-)
I should one day write a text, 101 how to stupidly die by your own fault :-)
Just yesterday I noticed, if I run over frozen river in Everfrost, I get swimming XP. Cool! Gotta try it out. So I'm running down South, little I knew, there is one small hole in the ice. I fell into it. At the same moment, that NPC that drops nice mid level cloak had to come by and of course attacked me. I couldn't gate, attack or get out. He killed me and he is probably even green to me.
Nah, Cleric will be my important group member :-))))
Mage pets are stronger than Beastlord pets. However Beastlord pets get amazing proc / Dex buffs and are proc machines too.
Beastlord is a very good class to start with.
bst/dru/clr is a 100% perfect starting trio.
Once you get this trio to 60, you can easily powerlevel any other class you want to play.
OK great, thanks! I think you convinced me :-)
If I ever get PAKT client working on my Linux, this will be my starting combo.
The rest is similar to P99, right? Best Druid is Wood Elf, Dwarf Cleric is a good combo and these two can start leveling together right away since one can easy run to another zone.
But I have no clue about BST, which class would be preferable?
Baler
05-07-2021, 08:57 PM
OK great, thanks! I think you convinced me :-)
If I ever get PAKT client working on my Linux, this will be my starting combo.
The rest is similar to P99, right? Best Druid is Wood Elf, Dwarf Cleric is a good combo and these two can start leveling together right away since one can easy run to another zone.
But I have no clue about BST, which class would be preferable?
I strongly encourage you to make a thread and ask these questions on the takp forums!
https://www.takproject.net/forums
Or Takp Discord
https://discord.com/invite/PW2Aq2F
Also here is a guide on their wiki for linux, You may also get more tech support on their discord if this doesn't work out.
https://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Getting_Started_on_Linux
I strongly encourage you to make a thread and ask these questions on the takp forums!
https://www.takproject.net/forums
Yes, you are correct, sorry about that, got carried away :-)
starkind
05-07-2021, 11:05 PM
Well, based on how much i'm dying, (I have an indisputable record number of deaths on green and red server, just can't prove it lol) Cleric is a must in my case :-)
I should one day write a text, 101 how to stupidly die by your own fault :-)
Just yesterday I noticed, if I run over frozen river in Everfrost, I get swimming XP. Cool! Gotta try it out. So I'm running down South, little I knew, there is one small hole in the ice. I fell into it. At the same moment, that NPC that drops nice mid level cloak had to come by and of course attacked me. I couldn't gate, attack or get out. He killed me and he is probably even green to me.
Nah, Cleric will be my important group member :-))))
This is basically me until I get in a group and can tunnel vision heals lol.
Seducio
07-17-2021, 07:02 PM
TAKP is a good change of pace in regards wanting a high quality EQ experience that is not Live similar to p99. Glad both exist.
The individuals on TAKP tend toward low drama with TAKP staff being on point and in the same ball park of expertise as p99 staff.
Can single box on TAKP like on p99. Good portion of server plays one character at a time though most play more than that. So grouping is more sparse than p99, but grouping does happen.
When you see people stopping to play p99 due to various 'Life' reasons there is chance that some of those individuals would enjoy TAKP. Reason is TAKP is more forgiving to busy folks fully living their 2021 lives while dipping their toes into EQ than p99 would be. TAKP has slightly faster leveling by 20%, level 60 MGB buffs avail in PoK, Bazaar. Basically all the things that made EQ easier and not as tough. But for folks that want their EQ fix and who have full lives, TAKP might work better than p99 for some.
Basically TAKP is the spot to do the game at your own pace. Epics being solo'd are actually a thing there. With PoP still not out yet, there is an expansion to look forward to being released in the future compared to Green's release of Velious and relative proximity to Blue timeline at this point in server history.
Overall p99 is superior if one wants a healthy server population outside of Live.
unsunghero
07-17-2021, 07:35 PM
The best way to box IMO is with late-expansion mercenaries. You can effectively cover tasks such as healing nearly as well as with a player char with absolutely zero effort required, the mercenary just auto-follows and heals
I got sick of having to alt-tab so much back when I was 2box'ing. I guess I could have gotten into scripting but never did. But with mercenaries, you could make even a 2 box become incredibly strong
Seducio
07-17-2021, 07:47 PM
TAKP is quite different from Live. It's attempting to mimic PoP era locked Mac based EQ server. Max level is 60 so it is closer to p99 than Live. TAKP has a different rule set than p99 like OP mentioned though.
I never played with late stage Mercs on Live. I stopped on LIve at LDON. No interest to play with Mercs either to be honest.
unsunghero
07-18-2021, 10:41 AM
TAKP is quite different from Live. It's attempting to mimic PoP era locked Mac based EQ server. Max level is 60 so it is closer to p99 than Live. TAKP has a different rule set than p99 like OP mentioned though.
I never played with late stage Mercs on Live. I stopped on LIve at LDON. No interest to play with Mercs either to be honest.
Mercs simply allowed more freedom in smaller box compositions. You could run a 2dps team with 2 healer mercs. Or you could run a tank + dps team with a healer merc and a dps. The only thing you couldn’t do well was use the tank merc. When I was playing live, the tank mercs were always underpowered. Apparently the devs didn’t want merc tanks to come even remotely close to surpassing players
Without mercs, then the process for me (and I imagine most people) to box was to have 2+ instances of the game running and hit alt+tab. I was playing mag+Necro and 2 healer mercs, and sometimes I would be alt tabbing 50+ times per fight. It got super hectic. I eventually tried to set up /castsequence macros in game. But I found out those were far too restrictive, and there was no way to “break” out of them. So if something went awry (as things often do), your char would not cast what you wanted but instead still be following the sequence, and it would get me killed. So I eventually ditched the /castsequence macros
Not sure how people box 3+ accounts nowadays on servers like TAKP. They must have a better system than alt-tab
dcortez
07-18-2021, 11:11 AM
Shared banking and the ability to shuffle characters between three accounts is convenient. You can have a fourth account for trading (only).
Seducio
07-18-2021, 01:24 PM
So far I have run into folks running one character just like here and more than you would think do that there. Some who run two chars as they don't like to run all three, and those that run three (four if you include trader) typically are doing the Hotkeynet thing. Hotkeynet allows for quicker switching than alt-tab. A few folks use several machines one for each char for visibility but thats like playing drums and lots of movement by the player. Some shrink the screen and get all 4 screens on one big HDTV or large monitor. Almost everyone is doing it slightly differently in accordance with how much energy they want to spend playing.
Rick Sanchez
07-19-2021, 04:20 PM
Best community on any everquest emulator, since 2009 - 2010 blue.
Baler
07-19-2021, 04:27 PM
Pivoo is doing great things over on TAKP
imperiouskitten
07-20-2021, 03:25 AM
Best community on any everquest emulator, since 2009 - 2010 blue.
yeah :) and if pivo is pico, (who i do know plays there), a hearty hello from somewhere in asia :)
Seducio
07-20-2021, 12:30 PM
Regarding the good community and low drama on that server...
I have not had a single camp dispute so far and I'm in my 50s there. Real communication is happening between folks when two players want the same camp rather than p99 style rule lawyer battles.
It could be that the low population which hovers between 200 and 400 people online encourages hospitality or perhaps folks that are willing to be on a server that allows boxing somehow tend toward avoiding getting into arguments online.
So far so good though.
Graahle
07-20-2021, 01:54 PM
TAKP is awesome. The people are 100x more pleasant too.
Seducio
08-13-2021, 10:57 AM
Just got Run3 Alternative Advancement. Still not quite level 60 but almost.
It's rad running faster than mobs in a dungeon without sow.
Baler
08-13-2021, 04:35 PM
TAKP recently added a stat showing the number of 3 box, 2box and single box players online.
You have to log in on the forum, it's on the right side on their forums.
I was surprised how many single box players there are.
starkind
08-13-2021, 05:06 PM
Boxing sucks. It's nice to have buffs tho. And some form of pulling or splitting if u ever want to do any halfway hard named camp.
And u can do that real well almost not boxing with a halfway decently geared character.
Baler
08-13-2021, 05:07 PM
Boxing sucks. It's nice to have buffs tho. And some form of pulling or splitting if u ever want to do any halfway hard named camp.
With a healthy raid scene like the one on TAKP you don't need to box to compete.
I made toons on there when it first came out. I can't remember specifically what it was but something with the 3rd person view and scrolling probably that was unplayable for me. If I can't play in 3rd person view and scroll around with my mouse it ain't happening.
Seducio
08-13-2021, 07:53 PM
The no mouse scroll to 3rd person is a no go for many on TAKP. It put me off the first few times I played. Eventually got used to it after a week or two.
Now when I play p99 mouse scroll is this awesome extra QoL feature.
Pretty sure neither TAKP nor p99 should have mouse scroll if they were both in accordance with what Live had at that time.
P99 has spoiled us.
Tunabros
08-13-2021, 08:45 PM
yeah the first person thing kinda put me off at first
but once i got used to it, it had a certain charm to it
mostly played takp to explore luclin and see what "aas" and "vex thal" is 0-0
unsunghero
08-13-2021, 09:16 PM
u can't third person zoom? that's a no for me then
HalflingSpergand
08-13-2021, 09:26 PM
U can use f9 to switch cameras and then zoom if i remember right. But no just straight up scrolling out. Or quick map other buttons for that
radda
08-13-2021, 11:43 PM
please do not switch
radda
08-13-2021, 11:47 PM
mercs suck. bye
Arvan
08-14-2021, 12:39 AM
I would love to replay those zones again but yeah boxing eww
When I found P99 I though this is my home. But my client on Linux crashes a lot, resulting in numerous deaths across all three servers.
Then I tried TAKP. On my computer game is more stable. Community is perfect! I'm slow, solo player with not much game time. 3 box is perfect in this regard.
Not sure how people box 3+ accounts nowadays on servers like TAKP. They must have a better system than alt-tab
On Linux, you have multi workspaces. I set my to 3 for each character one, and my fingers are already used to (Xfce) shortcuts: Ctrl+Alt+Arrow(left or right) As you switch to next (or previous) desktop, game client is already active.
It can be pretty fun. Send in tank, switch to Magician, click on macro to send in pet and start nuking, switch to Cleric and click on nuking or healing macro, whatever you need.
TAKP's client has built in multiboxing switching software but I've never used it yet.
Pivoo is doing great things over on TAKP
Thanks, looks like you are enjoying it also, seems like it :)
P.s.
And sorry for my past response, I didn't know what "rants & flames was about" and just whole thread rating culture etc... and I once responded to you the way I shouldn't. I'm still sorry!
Thanks for all the sharing you are doing in EQ community!
yeah :) and if pivo is pico, (who i do know plays there), a hearty hello from somewhere in asia :)
No sorry, that is not me :) But greetings back regardless :)
Izmael
08-14-2021, 06:43 AM
When I found P99 I though this is my home. But my client on Linux crashes a lot, resulting in numerous deaths across all three servers.
Latest Debian / Ubuntu, Wine 5 or 6 - you shouldn't ever have any crashes.
Latest Debian / Ubuntu, Wine 5 or 6 - you shouldn't ever have any crashes.
Thanks, must be my aged hardware, I have several different issues:
- like screen goes blank for 20-40 seconds (not blind spell),
- or mouse/keyboard stops responding until I hard restart computer.
- plus crashes...
Latest MX (Debian) I Will try again, when Bulls Eye arrives to MX.
But I'm happy with TAKP now, so all is good ;-)
Tunabros
08-22-2021, 09:28 PM
starting up a cleric/monk 2 box soon
sounds like fun =)
Gwaihir
08-22-2021, 09:40 PM
starting up a cleric/monk 2 box soon
sounds like fun =)
Monks are lousy tanks on TAKP, fyi
Ravager
08-22-2021, 09:54 PM
I like what they're doing there and I like the old client, but the boxing is the part that keeps me away. That said, I'm sure it's a lot of fun for folks who like to play that way and it fills a needed niche in the classic server catalog and wouldn't shame anyone for playing there.
It was cool as hell listening to the old midi music and riding the proper boats across the Ocean of Tears though.
unsunghero
08-22-2021, 10:16 PM
starting up a cleric/monk 2 box soon
sounds like fun =)
misspelled shaman/monk
Secrets
08-23-2021, 06:23 PM
I like what they're doing there and I like the old client, but the boxing is the part that keeps me away. That said, I'm sure it's a lot of fun for folks who like to play that way and it fills a needed niche in the classic server catalog and wouldn't shame anyone for playing there.
It was cool as hell listening to the old midi music and riding the proper boats across the Ocean of Tears though.
Actually, there's plenty of folks who don't box. It's increasingly great seeing folks in the P99 refugee guild (Blood Guard) who are single boxing and having a blast.
TAKP has a player counter that shows actual populations on their forums.
https://i.imgur.com/2ejdJId.png
While the totals are a shell of what P99's numbers are currently, you have to remember that you don't have to box. Nor do you have to actively play 3 characters.
I had to get over the idea that 'boxers are around me' and that it would actually, instead, benefit me to have them there.
Yes, there's a few that box 3. No, they won't exclude you. In fact, for XP grinding, it's often better to have your 3 box and 2 other soloer who are actively contributing.
2002-era EQ actually has a revamped XP formula, and specifically there was a bug on EQMac that resulted in an experience bonus for every player after 3. There is a significant bonus to simply just having another person in your group after 3.
The chart is as follows:
1 member - 100% / 1 = 100%
2 members - 120% / 2 = 60%
3 members - 140% / 3 = 46.7%
4 members - 220% / 4 = 55%
5 members - 260% / 5 = 52%
6 members - 260% / 6 = 43.3%
Of course, this does not include kill speed, which is sped up drastically with more players. 4 is the sweet spot, and 5 minimally detracts from experience.
The wiki is a great source of this information, and players who play on TAKP are highly aware - to the point where people actually actively seek out a 'fourth' solo / 2boxer player to compliment their trio, as it benefits them massively, even if they just leech experience.
http://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Experience_Points
imperiouskitten
08-23-2021, 06:28 PM
starting up a cleric/monk 2 box soon
sounds like fun =)
takp is a fantastic server, knowing your age I think you will really enjoy it. It feels more classic than anything else available. the netcode and pathing in particular are sooo classic in behavior that it knocks my socks off and foils up my head
Secrets
08-23-2021, 06:30 PM
u can't third person zoom? that's a no for me then
This is actually entirely more classic than P99.
P99 should actually not have third person mousewheel zooming. It's a pain in the ass to use insert/delete, but it's era-appropriate and specific to their client.
If you really care about it, there's a github link out there with a client hack that restores mousewheel by hooking it up to a third-party program, of which TAKP's developers will not detect, as they don't scan for third party programs. Short of you streaming the mousewheel, they won't actively pursue you.
Same for things like buff timers. There was something in that same repository that would estimate buff times remaining on the buff list. Not era-appropriate, technically would get you banned, but again, TAKP isn't in the business of being ultra-aggressive in scanning for passive hacks like that, scrollwheel and ShowEQ/MySEQ like p99 is.
In my opinion, those mods don't detract from the experience. But not everyone agrees, and they're in a 'don't ask, don't tell' situation.
No I won't compile it for you. Don't ask.
imperiouskitten
08-23-2021, 06:34 PM
i am glad the server filters out the mustzooms
unsunghero
08-23-2021, 07:04 PM
Yeah all my gaming free time is going into P99 atm, but I appreciate the info on the way to jury-rig the zoom if I do try takp. Id need to download 2 clients to 2box right?
I play p99 80% of the time in 3rd person zoomed out. Only time I play first person is in cramped dungeons where I can’t zoom
Secrets
08-23-2021, 07:42 PM
Yeah all my gaming free time is going into P99 atm, but I appreciate the info on the way to jury-rig the zoom if I do try takp. Id need to download 2 clients to 2box right?
I play p99 80% of the time in 3rd person zoomed out. Only time I play first person is in cramped dungeons where I can’t zoom
You need one client and you double click on eqgame.exe twice.
It will look like this (on, for example, a 2440x1080 monitor):
https://i.imgur.com/aE5HGhV.png
unsunghero
08-23-2021, 07:46 PM
You need one client and you double click on eqgame.exe twice.
It will look like this (on, for example, a 2440x1080 monitor):
https://i.imgur.com/aE5HGhV.png
Oh nice, cool
That’s how I 2box’ed on live
Is it true that while epics are much more easily achievable there without bottlenecks, that many are phased out by the end of the takp lifespan aka POP?
Secrets
08-25-2021, 08:09 PM
Oh nice, cool
That’s how I 2box’ed on live
Is it true that while epics are much more easily achievable there without bottlenecks, that many are phased out by the end of the takp lifespan aka POP?
Clickies are mostly the ones kept in PoP for different reasons. Enchanter, Druid, Shaman, Cleric, Wizard (free rune clicky), Bard, Monk. For what I hope are obvious reasons.
The weapons like Warrior epic (Blade of Strategy in particular) are kept for aggro, Ragebringer's still pretty great too. Ranger epic is a slow for that class that otherwise wouldn't have one outside of Vaniki's weapon, but most box a class capable of slow anyways (and wouldn't want to rely on a proc)
Forgettable epics are ones like the Beastlord epic in PoP (it's still pretty damn good in Luclin till VT), Paladin, SK, Magician (in PoP), other half of Ranger/WAR epic, and Necro (despite being a clicky its still shit)
Trexller
08-25-2021, 09:00 PM
Is this the same secrets who made the takp client?
If so i dreadfully need help with hotkeynet
Whale biologist
08-25-2021, 09:26 PM
Magician (in PoP)
Any plans to ban MQ scammers? :p
Ravager
08-26-2021, 04:44 PM
Actually, there's plenty of folks who don't box. It's increasingly great seeing folks in the P99 refugee guild (Blood Guard) who are single boxing and having a blast.
TAKP has a player counter that shows actual populations on their forums.
https://i.imgur.com/2ejdJId.png
While the totals are a shell of what P99's numbers are currently, you have to remember that you don't have to box. Nor do you have to actively play 3 characters.
I had to get over the idea that 'boxers are around me' and that it would actually, instead, benefit me to have them there.
Yes, there's a few that box 3. No, they won't exclude you. In fact, for XP grinding, it's often better to have your 3 box and 2 other soloer who are actively contributing.
2002-era EQ actually has a revamped XP formula, and specifically there was a bug on EQMac that resulted in an experience bonus for every player after 3. There is a significant bonus to simply just having another person in your group after 3.
The chart is as follows:
1 member - 100% / 1 = 100%
2 members - 120% / 2 = 60%
3 members - 140% / 3 = 46.7%
4 members - 220% / 4 = 55%
5 members - 260% / 5 = 52%
6 members - 260% / 6 = 43.3%
Of course, this does not include kill speed, which is sped up drastically with more players. 4 is the sweet spot, and 5 minimally detracts from experience.
The wiki is a great source of this information, and players who play on TAKP are highly aware - to the point where people actually actively seek out a 'fourth' solo / 2boxer player to compliment their trio, as it benefits them massively, even if they just leech experience.
http://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Experience_Points
That's encouraging. I really do like the old client and the good nostalgic feels that comes with it. I've got a week off coming up, maybe I'll come by one of those days and poke around again.
Tunabros
08-26-2021, 08:05 PM
theres quite a few 1 boxers but I'm not really sure what classes are able to just straight up solo like that?
There's quite a few things that involve grouping or other people's help
maybe shamans and necros but they can't all be those guys, right?
I'm still pretty new to the server, playing on and off
Secrets
11-24-2021, 07:54 PM
Planes of Power is tenatively out on January 5th, 2022 (https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/tentative-pop-release-date.20524/)
Whale biologist
11-24-2021, 08:18 PM
Planes of Power is tenatively out on January 5th, 2022 (https://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/tentative-pop-release-date.20524/)
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