Cancel culture.

[Byue]

It's getting out of hand.
They're cancelling politicians from their own party because they speak their mind, which is what their voters voted them in for.

They're cancelling books because of a gay characters, cancelling election results.

What is next, they're going to cancel their corrupt personalities and pretend hey are working class populist?

[Mblake1981]

0Mz88TYuBn4

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/AfPYG7K.jpg

[Jibartik]

sorry your parties flipped and republicans wont continue the bush legacy

[Byue]

Where is the outrage I know you can have, I seen it on display when a company pulls its own product from the line, you go crazy.

Why not now, I thought you guys were staunch defender of free speech and staunch warriors of cancel culture?


But sometimes is ok, I see.

[Pulgasari]

Uhh I wouldn't expect either party to tolerate leadership that doesn't get on board with their policy goals

their goals are bad tho

[Nocht]

I thought lefties hated whataboutism.

[Jibartik]

redacted drivel

shutup byue this is a liz chainy thread.

edit: just kidding that's for CNN comment sections

[G13]

Lefties suddenly worried about Cancel Culture when it affects a Cheney

Hilarious Irony

[Horza]

Lefties suddenly worried about Cancel Culture when it affects a Cheney

Hilarious Irony

Please keep turning on each other in order to own the libs.

[Jibartik]

republicans oust bush legacy war crime privileged war profiteer and democrats get upset
(LOL)

[Mblake1981]

Next time have the Prime Minister make the thread.

[G13]

Please keep turning on each other in order to own the libs.

Rising Inflation, Gas Prices, Gas Lines and kids in cages are doing the job of owning libs just fine

[FatherSioux]

Please keep turning on each other in order to own the libs.

Yet another greatly ironic claim. The Left eating the left is a uniquely left trait and you’re projecting it to the right. I bet your father is proud.

[Horza]

republicans oust bush legacy war crime privileged war profiteer and democrats get upset
(LOL)

Some of us just think it's really funny.

[Jibartik]

because the parties flipped and you're being convinced she is important by leaders that want her to run

[Horza]

She was the third ranking GOP member in the House until she refused to kiss the ring.

[Jibartik]

so what she didnt like trump means she is 0

you should be happy

[Pulgasari]

She was the third ranking GOP member in the House until she refused to kiss the ring.

And in charge of communicating the party's message to the public

[Horza]

Like I had said, it's pretty funny watching the inmates take over the asylum.

[Jibartik]

Like I had said, it's pretty funny watching the inmates take over the asylum.

I think its funny that people who hated bush so much hate trump so much they support bush politics.

sorry you wont get the bush candidate in 2024 you were manipulated into rooting for.

parties flipped.

[Horza]

It is in fact possible to simultaneously dislike neocons and laugh at Republican infighting.

[nostalgiaquest]

Hey cool another politics thread where the same 5 people spit in each others’ mouths. Exactly what we needed!

[Shawk]

cancel culture is a left problem

the right will use it though.. the left invented it and has been shadow banning and banning people for reasons unjustified for centuries..

sure the right uses it though, they are opportunistic fucking dickheads

[Pulgasari]

Hey cool another politics thread where the same 5 people spit in each others’ mouths. Exactly what we needed!

It's unreasonable to expect the red team to keep Cheney in leadership when the majority of the party disagrees with her.

Like, that's what voting is for, maaaaan.

[nostalgiaquest]

Thank you person number 3

[Pulgasari]

Thank you person number 3

That's what I get for being nice to the other side.

[Jibartik]

Spitting in mouths lol

[Byue]

oh, did I mention that I like Cheney?
Did I, anywhere?

Did I even defend her?


I don't think you guys loved potato head or read dr seuss religiously, et you thrown yourselves on that cancel culture debate like vultures didn't you?

So why not now?

[unsunghero]

cancel culture is a left problem

the right will use it though.. the left invented it and has been shadow banning and banning people for reasons unjustified for centuries..

sure the right uses it though, they are opportunistic fucking dickheads

The left actually needs us though, they just don’t realize it. If all the conservatives vanished off the earth tomorrow, the left would eventually turn on itself. Marxism requires an Oppressor vs Oppressed setup. White male liberals might become the next oppressor, or straight black males, etc. The ultra woke would begin to cancel the slightly less woke for not being woke enough

[Shawk]

The left actually needs us though, they just don’t realize it. If all the conservatives vanished off the earth tomorrow, the left would eventually turn on itself. Marxism requires an Oppressor vs Oppressed setup. White male liberals might become the next oppressor, or straight black males, etc. The ultra woke would begin to cancel the slightly less woke for not being woke enough

I mean I know that but that doesn't mean the left and the right do. They equally don't know this. The right created the left though, but the right created it because the right needed to monitor themselves in a way that THEY aren't the ones doing it anymore, because they can't trust their dog eat dog determination to do it anymore.

But the issue is where you call a Marxist something and think that is all they are. it is just generalizing things. Most self proclaimed anything, aren't remotely that anymore.. Just full of hypocritical bullshit. Same logic makes left types say a pack of hat wearing jean wearing jacket types are literally White Supremacists..

This goes both ways.

[Byue]

I mean I know that but that doesn't mean the left and the right do. They equally don't know this. The right created the left though, but the right created it because the right needed to monitor themselves in a way that THEY aren't the ones doing it anymore, because they can't trust their dog eat dog determination to do it anymore.

But the issue is where you call a Marxist something and think that is all they are. it is just generalizing things. Same logic makes left types say a pack of hat wearing jean wearing jacket types are literally White Supremacists..

This goes both ways.

And people make fun of my English.

[Horza]

The left actually needs us though, they just don’t realize it. If all the conservatives vanished off the earth tomorrow, the left would eventually turn on itself. Marxism requires an Oppressor vs Oppressed setup. White male liberals might become the next oppressor, or straight black males, etc. The ultra woke would begin to cancel the slightly less woke for not being woke enough

Democrats are center left at best with a couple of exceptions, and cultural Marxism boogeymen are so 2016 :D

And people make fun of my English.

At least you have an excuse.

[Shawk]

And people make fun of my English.

Just making this thread shows how brain dead you are. Your type are the type canceling you fucking idiot. Worst part of Canada right here.. Cut yourselves off already.

[Horza]

Just making this thread shows how brain dead you are. Get real. Worst part of Canada right here.. Cut yourselves off around.

Alberta says hi.

[unsunghero]

I mean I know that but that doesn't mean the left and the right do. They equally don't know this. The right created the left though, but the right created it because the right needed to monitor themselves in a way that THEY aren't the ones doing it anymore, because they can't trust their dog eat dog determination to do it anymore.

But the issue is where you call a Marxist something and think that is all they are. it is just generalizing things. Most self proclaimed anything, aren't remotely that anymore.. Just full of hypocritical bullshit. Same logic makes left types say a pack of hat wearing jean wearing jacket types are literally White Supremacists..

This goes both ways.

Of course there’s going to be generalizations. Not all conservatives are pro-life, not all liberals are anti-gun rights. However, each party does have some characteristics that influence policy. And one of those for liberals is this idea that inequalities in life are moreso due to these intangible oppressive systems than by an individual’s life choices. And conservatives feel the opposite. Do liberals think individual choice doesn’t matter? No. Do conservatives think corruption cannot exist in any system? No. But their policy making tends to follow these generalities

[Jibartik]

During his eight years in office, President Bush oversaw a large increase in government spending.

Ditto for potato.

Parties flipped.

Sorry they wont be running the bush legacy mirror image democrat candidate next election.

You're rooting for the party of pillage the fed to line their pockets.

It's like that movie Promiseland (https://youtu.be/sy__Klfql2M?t=173). They're looking to have their candidate run against their candidate. Whichever side wins, it writes goverment contracts.

[G13]

Democrats are center left at best with a couple of exceptions, and cultural Marxism boogeymen are so 2016 :D



At least you have an excuse.

14534

[Shawk]

Of course there’s going to be generalizations. Not all conservatives are pro-life, not all liberals are anti-gun rights. However, each party does have some characteristics that influence policy. And one of those for liberals is this idea that inequalities in life are moreso due to these intangible oppressive systems than by an individual’s life choices. And conservatives feel the opposite. Do liberals think individual choice doesn’t matter? No. Do conservatives think corruption cannot exist in any system? No. But their policy making tends to follow these generalities

Playing a game like ECO shows how flawed these policy making things are IMO. Just like voting it depends on people actually participating, few people participate or care or even know when anything is happening.

Dunno if that is a feature or a bug though.

[Byue]

Just making this thread shows how brain dead you are. Your type are the type canceling you fucking idiot. Worst part of Canada right here.. Cut yourselves off already.


I am sorry, what?
I personally never cancelled anything.

I made a post about republicans crying about mr potato head being cancelled last month and now cancelling one of their caucus member.

All I say is I thought you were for freedom of speech and against cancel culture, what is going on?

[unsunghero]

Playing a game like ECO shows how flawed these policy making things are IMO. Just like voting it depends on people actually participating, few people participate or care or even know when anything is happening.

Dunno if that is a feature or a bug though.

No idea what ECO is

You are right that most people are uninformed. They are living in their little echo chamber surrounding themselves with like-minded people, and usually only taking in information in two forms, often both at once:

1. Something that validates how they already felt about something
2. Something that is being peddled by an experienced outrage merchant, because outrage sells

This is true, and a major flaw, for both sides

[Jibartik]

Why are lumber prices up?

Because they're holding onto their lumber waiting for the fed to write huge infistructure checks so it can unload it at a massive profit.

Who suffers? Middle class.

[Byue]

This is true, and a major flaw, for both sides


Ah yes.
The post doctorate flaw that makes you want to be validated and thus only taking in the information you care about and this is very exactly how you get a PhD.

America largely divided by education level. (https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/education-gap-explains-american-politics/575113/)


ouch.

[Mblake1981]

And people make fun of my English.

For good reason :o

[Byue]

For good reason :o

it's really hard to make grammatical mistakes when your whole comment is 3 words long.

It does show us your level of command, though.

Stop trying to cancel me because I am Canadian, French or because my English is not on your level.

[unsunghero]

Ah yes.
The post doctorate flaw that makes you want to be validated and thus only taking in the information you care about and this is very exactly how you get a PhD.

America largely divided by education level. (https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/11/education-gap-explains-american-politics/575113/)


ouch.

I have no idea how you get a PhD because I don’t have one. Do you?

You would be blind to not realize that social media is programmed to feed you mostly information that it thinks you would want to take in. And what it assumes (correctly so for most people) is information you want to take in is information that confirms your pre-existing beliefs

Also, it is human nature to want to shut down the opposition. If there more of one party in a particular location, that party will tend to bully the other one out of that location. Both parties do this. We tend to want to surround ourselves with people who validate and don’t challenge how we feel, because that’s considered (and correctly so) therapeutic

Or am I wrong on this. Do you attend conservative rallies and insist on surrounding yourself with mostly conservative friends by choice and not because they are the only ones available? Bravo if so, but you would be an anomaly

Also, most news media on both sides are outrage merchants peddling clickbait headlines, because it sells. I can deny the ethics of such a tactic all day, but I cannot deny the efficacy of it

[Mblake1981]

it's really hard to make grammatical mistakes when your whole comment is 3 words long.

It does show us your level of command, though.

Stop trying to cancel me because I am Canadian, French or because my English is not on your level.


Doesn't need to be any longer.

It does.

No.

[Jibartik]

less is more

[Shawk]

No idea what ECO is

It's a good game.

[Byue]

I have no idea how you get a PhD because I don’t have one. Do you?

You would be blind to not realize that social media is programmed to feed you mostly information that it thinks you would want to take in. And what it assumes (correctly so for most people) is information you want to take in is information that confirms your pre-existing beliefs

Also, it is human nature to want to shut down the opposition. If there more of one party in a particular location, that party will tend to bully the other one out of that location. Both parties do this. We tend to want to surround ourselves with people who validate and don’t challenge how we feel, because that’s considered (and correctly so) therapeutic

Or am I wrong on this. Do you attend conservative rallies and insist on surrounding yourself with mostly conservative friends by choice and not because they are the only ones available? Bravo if so, but you would be an anomaly

Also, most news media on both sides are outrage merchants peddling clickbait headlines, because it sells. I can deny the ethics of such a tactic all day, but I cannot deny the efficacy of it

So basically, you are in favour of cancel culture and against freedom of speech?

Also, can we stop saying news media on both side?
We know who owns 95% of American news outlet and none of those white dude a leftist.

They're conservative making money, shaping our discourse.

P.S: I have a baccalaureate, and have many friends with a phd.
It's not hard, it's dedication to learning a thing just so some shithead on the internet can say that you research is fake.

less is more
I agree.
Less outrage, please. Especially against someone expressing themselves in a way that is not 144 characters or less.

[Mblake1981]

I agree.
Less outrage, please. Especially against someone expressing themselves in a way that is not 144 characters or less.

Post another wall o' text and you are gonna get negged. :o

[Horza]

So basically, you are in favour of cancel culture and against freedom of speech?

Also, can we stop saying news media on both side?
We know who owns 95% of American news outlet and none of those white dude a leftist.

They're conservative making money, shaping our discourse.

P.S: I have a baccalaureate, and have many friends with a phd.
It's not hard, it's dedication to learning a thing just so some shithead on the internet can say that you research is fake.


I agree.
Less outrage, please. Especially against someone expressing themselves in a way that is not 144 characters or less.

These morons think Rachel Maddow is some kind of Marxist-Leninist and not a milquetoast liberal.

[Mblake1981]

These morons think Rachel Maddow is some kind of Marxist-Leninist and not a milquetoast liberal.

French Canadia probably wouldn't know the difference.

I had to take you off ignore, its useless here since you are quoted. I can read it anyway, which sucks. :o

[Jibartik]

Less outrage, please. Especially against someone expressing themselves in a way that is not 144 characters or less.

freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences

[unsunghero]

So basically, you are in favour of cancel culture and against freedom of speech?

Also, can we stop saying news media on both side?
We know who owns 95% of American news outlet and none of those white dude a leftist.

They're conservative making money, shaping our discourse.

P.S: I have a baccalaureate, and have many friends with a phd.
It's not hard, it's dedication to learning a thing just so some shithead on the internet can say that you research is fake.


I agree.
Less outrage, please. Especially against someone expressing themselves in a way that is not 144 characters or less.

Actually who owns news media is public information, no need for your conspiracy theories. Here, let’s take a look at who owns my local publication, which happens to own many others and is the largest newspaper distributor in the United States:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannett

It also owns “the national newspaper USA Today, as well as several local newspapers, including the Detroit Free Press; The Indianapolis Star; The Cincinnati Enquirer; The Florida Times-Union in Jacksonville, Florida; The Tennessean in Nashville, Tennessee; The Daily News Journal, in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; The Courier-Journal in Louisville, Kentucky; the Democrat and Chronicle in Rochester, New York; The Des Moines Register; The Arizona Republic in Phoenix, Arizona; The News-Press in Fort Myers, Florida; the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel; and the Great Falls Tribune in Great Falls, Montana”

Ever since Gannett bought out these publications, they began publishing with a liberal bias. Feel free to challenge this and claim publications like USA Today are not liberal, I’d love to show you some articles to the contrary. I have quite a few ready to go, just give the word

Not sure where you are getting your information that conservatives own mainstream media. Conservatives own Fox, OAN, Newsmaxx and that’s about all I can think off of the top of my head

Democrats owning mainstream media and being a mouthpiece for the DNC is exactly why Biden won the last election

And no I’m always for free speech. I don’t want to shut any news down. I say bravo for controlling the mainstream media. If people are too stupid to get their information from elsewhere, that’s on them

Nor do I see a need to protect people from “misinformation”. Full grown adults should be able to develop the critical thought to differentiate what is real and fake and if they can’t, that’s on them too. This crusade against misinformation by liberals is a joke. There’s misinformation everywhere, in advertising, in nutrition labels, in documentaries, in politics. There can be no end once you open the door to shutting down misinformation. Are democrats going to shut down Gary’s Plenty of Fish dating site profile saying “Gary, we know your dick is only 5.2 inches not 8 inches, that’s misinformation”

It’s just another form of censorship, weaponized to be used when it suits them. People need to be allowed to make their own mistakes, including taking in the wrong information

[Byue]

you can easily google who own the us news media.
Roughly 15 billionaires owning roughly 95% of news outlets.
None of that is conspiracy.




Some are more center leaning.
Some are in favour of more taxation.
None of them staunch socialist unless you can be both a hardcore lefty and a billionaire capitalist.

[Shawk]

tyUQ7S6opnA

[Jibartik]

Reading a byue hobart horza post about why biden is successful

https://i.imgur.com/jcmsmQf.png

[Byue]

https://i.imgur.com/jcmsmQf.png

Art.
You wouldn't get it anyway.

[unsunghero]

you can easily google who own the us news media.
Roughly 15 billionaires owning roughly 95% of news outlets.
None of that is conspiracy.




Some are more center leaning.
Some are in favour of more taxation.
None of them staunch socialist unless you can be both a hardcore lefty and a billionaire capitalist.

If a billionaire wanted to publish media that went against the political beliefs of his/her staff, that staff would all eventually quit. People get really passionate about their politics. These companies tend toward a particular slant because the majority of their employees feel the same way politically, not just their billionaire owner. Remember what I said before about the smaller party gets bullied out? Happens within companies too

So regardless of what theories you hold about the political slant of particular media (and we’ll have to agree to disagree on everything other than the fact that if you go high enough, all media is controlled by the same few parent companies, that I agree with), this political slant is a representation of the majority of their employees, not just their CEO

[Mblake1981]

Art.
You wouldn't get it anyway.

A large wall of nonsense.

[hobart]

Liz Cheney is being replaced by someone way less conservative than she is, but someone who will continue to humor the gullible Trumptards' fantasies about voter fraud and stolen elections because that's what's fueling the donations.

Cheney was warned three months ago. She decided to continue to put country over party and is paying the price for being a patriot. Or, if you're cynical, she realized she's not crazy enough to win a primary anymore and is setting herself up for the next career.

In any event, this is about money.

[Pulgasari]

Roughly 15 billionaires owning roughly 95% of news outlets.


Own in what sense? They've invested in shares of the companies? I detect Lefty jabbering.

[unsunghero]

Liz Cheney is being replaced by someone way less conservative than she is, but someone who will continue to humor the gullible Trumptards' fantasies about voter fraud and stolen elections because that's what's fueling the donations.

Cheney was warned three months ago. She decided to continue to put country over party and is paying the price for being a patriot. Or, if you're cynical, she realized she's not crazy enough to win a primary anymore and is setting herself up for the next career.

In any event, this is about money.

I always find it ironic when leftists laugh about conservatives protesting the results of an election when they did the exact same thing a few years ago. Vehemently

It’s only the result of cheating when we lose AMIRITE

[Byue]

If a billionaire wanted to publish media that went against the political beliefs of his/her staff, that staff would all eventually quit. People get really passionate about their politics. These companies tend toward a particular slant because the majority of their employees feel the same way politically, not just their billionaire owner. Remember what I said before about the smaller party gets bullied out? Happens within companies too

So regardless of what theories you hold about the political slant of particular media (and we’ll have to agree to disagree on everything other than the fact that if you go high enough, all media is controlled by the same few parent companies, that I agree with), this political slant is a representation of the majority of their employees, not just their CEO

Are you saying the majority of devloppers at cd projekt red wanted to release cyberpunk, and not just the CEO?

Have you ever worked anywhere before?
Do you do what is right or what the owner wants you to do?
The ones who stay tend to follow what you said but why, is important.


Most leftists don't really see ourselves represented in media.
We read certain stories that are interesting, we value investigative journalism yet we don't have a go to news outlet.

Most of the people I know cross examine a story using different outlets but also, a lot of outlets just use AP. The Associated Press is pretty unbias because they merely report facts and that is some useless shitty journalism but you can count on it to be factual.

two deaths.
a bombing in lebanon.

Boring but factual.
Let's face it though, what we could agree on is that most people don't read news articles and more importantly, they don't read it to be informed, just to confirm what they already know.

Like CNN is supposed to be lefty news yet we dub it conservative news network.
Is it so wild to believe that fox news need cnn yet cnn does not need fox news?
You mentioned something about the left needing the right.

If you can believe that, believe that some rich folk who has a shitty agenda to sell has a high incentive to prop up a left wing news media. You think republicans in the USA care about the people the worker?
Just look at the policy.

Politics is not about Biden, or 45th, it's about the policy they enact and what it leaves behind.

Did Mexico pay for the wall?
Is it even built?
Are all the problems he promised to fix in three days fixed?

Or is this country more divided than ever before?
Meanwhile you have a president advocating for union, trying to raise the minimum wage for all and who the fuck cares about the guy, we care about the policies.

Which again, is more like how to safely build a park or how high these buildings should be or should there be a police force and NOT the latest scandal over what some politicians you don't like said.


Again, this is a post about cancel culture because you mongrels keep complaining about when it'S a dr seuss book or when a potato toy is concerned but not when an elected official speaking her mind gets it.

Regardless of spectrum, you say, you should not abide by this shit.
Stand up.
Condone her.

Keep saying that she should not stray from the republican party if you want but freedom of speech is important and you cannot cry about cancel culture one way and celebrate it another way.

Grow up.


I always find it ironic when leftists laugh about conservatives protesting the results of an election when they did the exact same thing a few years ago. Vehemently

It’s only the result of cheating when we lose AMIRITE

I remember the riot that turned insurrection in 2016.
Can confirmed. Was there.

Was also a truther about the election the whole four years of 45th's presidency.
It was all over the news.
Here is the evidence:











COMPELLING IS IT NOT?

P.S: Trump talking about Obama's birth certificate 8 years in, that's a political witch hunt. Nobody even complained in 2016 about election fraud.
No evidence of that on google. You made that up you shitty liar. We're like a whole 9 months after the election and you guys still deny reality and if you can find an equivalent of that before, turn it in like you did your proof of election fraud.

lol

[Jibartik]

lol we had the largest march against the president in american history after trump was elected get fucked four eyes.

[unsunghero]

Are you saying the majority of devloppers at cd projekt red wanted to release cyberpunk, and not just the CEO?

Have you ever worked anywhere before?
Do you do what is right or what the owner wants you to do?
The ones who stay tend to follow what you said but why, is important.


Most leftists don't really see ourselves represented in media.
We read certain stories that are interesting, we value investigative journalism yet we don't have a go to news outlet.

Most of the people I know cross examine a story using different outlets but also, a lot of outlets just use AP. The Associated Press is pretty unbias because they merely report facts and that is some useless shitty journalism but you can count on it to be factual.

two deaths.
a bombing in lebanon.

Boring but factual.
Let's face it though, what we could agree on is that most people don't read news articles and more importantly, they don't read it to be informed, just to confirm what they already know.

Like CNN is supposed to be lefty news yet we dub it conservative news network.
Is it so wild to believe that fox news need cnn yet cnn does not need fox news?
You mentioned something about the left needing the right.

If you can believe that, believe that some rich folk who has a shitty agenda to sell has a high incentive to prop up a left wing news media. You think republicans in the USA care about the people the worker?
Just look at the policy.

Politics is not about Biden, or 45th, it's about the policy they enact and what it leaves behind.

Did Mexico pay for the wall?
Is it even built?
Are all the problems he promised to fix in three days fixed?

Or is this country more divided than ever before?
Meanwhile you have a president advocating for union, trying to raise the minimum wage for all and who the fuck cares about the guy, we care about the policies.

Which again, is more like how to safely build a park or how high these buildings should be or should there be a police force and NOT the latest scandal over what some politicians you don't like said.


Again, this is a post about cancel culture because you mongrels keep complaining about when it'S a dr seuss book or when a potato toy is concerned but not when an elected official speaking her mind gets it.

Regardless of spectrum, you say, you should not abide by this shit.
Stand up.
Condone her.

Keep saying that she should not stray from the republican party if you want but freedom of speech is important and you cannot cry about cancel culture one way and celebrate it another way.

Grow up.

K man. Feel free to go get a job at Fox News and let me know how rewarding and fulfilling your work feels

Politics are different than releasing a game you don’t think is finished. People see politics as a battle of ideologies, some even see it as good vs evil (I personally don’t, but many do). Just like you aren’t purposefully surrounding yourself with mostly conservative friends (and if you are, it’s because you have no choice, they’re all that you know), and going to conservative rallies, you aren’t going to go get a job at Fox News pushing bullshit that you don’t agree with ideologically

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/30/technology/basecamp-politics-ban-resignations.html

[Mblake1981]

lol you didn't read all that, stop being a lie.

[Horza]

I'm sensing a lot of anger coming from the right in this thread.

[unsunghero]

We're like a whole 9 months after the election and you guys still deny reality and if you can find an equivalent of that before, turn it in like you did your proof of election fraud.

lol

LOLOL thanks for the best laugh I had today. We were 2 years into the last election and democrats still continued to deny reality. Sure it wasn’t election fraud but it was “MUH RUSSIA, YOU CHEATED, NOT MY PRESIDENT”

Also, I never bought into the birther bullshit

[Jibartik]

I'm sensing a lot of anger coming from the right in this thread.

well youve been wrong before.

[unsunghero]

I'm sensing a lot of anger coming from the right in this thread.

BRO U MAD

Didn’t I already tell you that 1990’s internet trolls want their worn out catchprahses back

[Mblake1981]

I'm sensing a lot of anger coming from the right in this thread.

That's the drool dangling off your chin, get it together man.

[Mblake1981]

BRO U MAD

Didn’t I already tell you that 1990’s internet trolls want their worn out catchprahses back

Speaking of worn out, that's one whore of a comment :o

[Jibartik]

antifa punks can blow off (we dont curse in punk now)

[unsunghero]

Speaking of worn out, that's one whore of a comment :o

Exactly. I respond to trolls with trolling

[Jibartik]

Exactly. I respond to trolls with trolling

I only do that when im lecturing the left about fighting fire with fire.

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/cdviYAm.jpg

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/1K1M463.png

Edit: This bullshit post brought to you by the wonder child genius that is Steve Jobs, The boys at Samsung and the man himself Mark Zuckerberg. Without these men of influence we wouldn't be having conversations of this nature.

Gobble this shit and swallow.


https://i.imgur.com/cdviYAm.jpg

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/cdviYAm.jpg

Hey first time we agree. Well, the pandemic is on the wane, there isn’t mass unemployment (The unemployment rate peaked at 14.8% during the height of the pandemic, and is currently at 6.1% https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf), democrats are more war hawks than conservatives nowadays, remember how pissed Dems were when Trump wanted to pull out of Syria?(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-supporters-back-presidents-decision-to-pull-out-of-northern-syria/2019/10/11/1c68a488-ec44-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html%3foutputType=amp)

And we’ll leave the ecological collapse and healthcare as “controversial”. But I do really agree that cancel culture should be low on our list of worries

[FatherSioux]

Mass Unemployment = Due to excess government lockdown in Liberal states
Pandemic = Worth concern
Military Industrial Complex = Should have left this out, feels forced.
Healthcare = Get a job, don't eat shit and workout occasionally.
Ecological Collapse = False, not happening. Earth survived and will survive. Quit spinning this BS

[Horza]

Hey first time we agree. Well, the pandemic is on the wane, there isn’t mass unemployment (The unemployment rate peaked at 14.8% during the height of the pandemic, and is currently at 6.1% https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf), democrats are more war hawks than conservatives nowadays, remember how pissed Dems were when Trump wanted to pull out of Syria?(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-supporters-back-presidents-decision-to-pull-out-of-northern-syria/2019/10/11/1c68a488-ec44-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html%3foutputType=amp)

And we’ll leave the ecological collapse and healthcare as “controversial”. But I do really agree that cancel culture should be low on our list of worries

It's a year old meme, but the gist is still true.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/KL4C4Vm.png

[Mblake1981]

But I do really agree that cancel culture should be low on our list of worries

I read that as your list. You have a list. :o

[unsunghero]

It's a year old meme, but the gist is still true.

Ah. I figured

[unsunghero]

Healthcare = Get a job, don't eat shit and work out

I have a job, eat clean, work out, still not a huge fan of my private plan. Mine is 80% coverage following me paying a $4000 deductible. It’s nice in a major issue like a car accident, but that deductible hurts, man. And in many cases the private insurance provider (UHC for me) could challenge the medical necessity of any and every medical procedure I have done. Now have they ever once said something I had done wasn’t medically justified? No. Never once. And I’ve definitely had some stuff done before. When I had whooping cough 10 years ago I coughed so hard I tore a hole in my lung and was admitted to the ER overnight. That was a $22k bill

It’s the middle class that get the short end of the stick when it comes to healthcare in my opinion. The poor are set, because Medicaid is fucking awesome. Medicaid pays in full with no co-pays, and in my state it covers EVERYTHING medical and mental health, and it never challenges any expenses to my knowledge. From working in healthcare I know all healthcare providers love to accept Medicaid, because they know they are getting their money and right away without a dispute. I can’t imagine anyone who’s worked in healthcare or had Medicaid as their plan as a patient NOT say that it’s fucking awesome

So the rich are set, and the poor are set. What I personally disagree on is the economic viability of trying to give Medicaid or Medicare (which isn’t nearly as good in terms of coverage from my experience in talking to people who have it) to all. And once it’s given to all, would it still function as well as it does today or would there be lots of uncovered procedures and huge waits? If Dems think they can make Medicaid for all viable just by stealing from (sorry, cough,*taxing) the ultra rich they have another thing coming. I almost want to give them free reign to try just to see how high everyone’s taxes go as the rich flee the US and more and more costs get pushed down the ladder

[Gravydoo II]

Lol just check your DNA before you are born to be sure you're not going to have any dispositions that effect your health. If you do, give it back and ask for another one. Like jesus said.

[Gravydoo II]

Ecological Collapse = False, not happening. Earth survived and will survive. Quit spinning this BS

Literally in the Holocene extinction, right now. AKA Anthropocene extinction, right now. You're in the middle of a mass extinction, but hey, as long as the actual rocks and dirt which make up the earth survive, its all good. D'oh.

[Pulgasari]

Literally in the Holocene extinction, right now. AKA Anthropocene extinction, right now. You're in the middle of a mass extinction, but hey, as long as the actual rocks and dirt which make up the earth survive, its all good. D'oh.

https://i.imgur.com/kRUfJfr.gif

[FatherSioux]

Literally in the Holocene extinction, right now. AKA Anthropocene extinction, right now. You're in the middle of a mass extinction, but hey, as long as the actual rocks and dirt which make up the earth survive, its all good. D'oh.

Highly speculative. With roughly 500 known extinctions since 1900 it's hardly fact to claim that we're in the middle of a mass extinction. People love to believe they are living in historic times. This phenomenon I believe accounts for much of the climate change scares, mass extinction theories etc.

When you zoom out on global timelines you will see that the earths temperature is not that hot. The rate of change has spiked a bit but it's just too small of a sample size to draw many conclusions from it.

Past mass extinction events are staggering, roughly 75% of all species being wiped away seems to be a good watermark for claiming a mass-extinction. The highest numbers I found which are highly speculative say that roughly 10% of species are gone extinct since humans hit the scene. Forgive me if I'm not ready claim that a 10% mark signifies a MASS EXTINCTION play foreboding organ music.

[Patriam1066]

Mass Unemployment = Due to excess government lockdown in Liberal states
Pandemic = Worth concern
Military Industrial Complex = Should have left this out, feels forced.
Healthcare = Get a job, don't eat shit and workout occasionally.
Ecological Collapse = False, not happening. Earth survived and will survive. Quit spinning this BS

Nah we are destroying the planet. Infertility is rising due to plastic in the soil and water

[Topgunben]

Lefties suddenly worried about Cancel Culture when it affects a Cheney

Hilarious Irony

[Jibartik]

liz cheney was there only hope for 2024

[unsunghero]

Nah we are destroying the planet. Infertility is rising due to plastic in the soil and water

Testosterone levels are dropping due to unknown reasons as well. My guess is some sort of pollutant or even something we think as benign that is being introduced into our body over time

And no it’s not soy lol

[Jibartik]

fluoride added to jet fuel

[Horza]

Testosterone levels are dropping due to unknown reasons as well. My guess is some sort of pollutant or even something we think as benign that is being introduced into our body over time

And no it’s not soy lol

Chemtrails are making the frogs gay

[unsunghero]

Chemtrails are making the frogs gay

lol but this is real though

"Studies show that men's testosterone levels have been declining for decades. The most prominent, a 2007 study in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, revealed a “substantial” drop in U.S. men's testosterone levels since the 1980s, with average levels declining by about 1% per year" (https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/?sh=4775da388b7f)

So what changed around the 1980's? Whatever the problem is, it seems made by us

[Topgunben]

lol but this is real though

"Studies show that men's testosterone levels have been declining for decades. The most prominent, a 2007 study in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, revealed a “substantial” drop in U.S. men's testosterone levels since the 1980s, with average levels declining by about 1% per year" (https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/?sh=4775da388b7f)

So what changed around the 1980's? Whatever the problem is, it seems made by us

Id be willing to bet it has more to do with the food, than whats in the air.

[Gravydoo II]

Highly speculative. With roughly 500 known extinctions since 1900 it's hardly fact to claim that we're in the middle of a mass extinction. People love to believe they are living in historic times. This phenomenon I believe accounts for much of the climate change scares, mass extinction theories etc.

When you zoom out on global timelines you will see that the earths temperature is not that hot. The rate of change has spiked a bit but it's just too small of a sample size to draw many conclusions from it.

Past mass extinction events are staggering, roughly 75% of all species being wiped away seems to be a good watermark for claiming a mass-extinction. The highest numbers I found which are highly speculative say that roughly 10% of species are gone extinct since humans hit the scene. Forgive me if I'm not ready claim that a 10% mark signifies a MASS EXTINCTION play foreboding organ music.


Love how this guy just out of hand dismisses an entire fields research and conclusions. We can "zoom out" we fucking live here. Temp goes up = bad. Ocean rising = bad. If you dont agree with it you just dismiss it, why even comment? lol

Oh its all "highly speculative" compared to what?? All your research??

If one in ten of all people on earth died, you would say "meh, not a mass dying." wow.. thats just fucking dumb. I cant even tell you how fucking stupid that is.

[Jibartik]

lol but this is real though

"Studies show that men's testosterone levels have been declining for decades. The most prominent, a 2007 study in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, revealed a “substantial” drop in U.S. men's testosterone levels since the 1980s, with average levels declining by about 1% per year" (https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/?sh=4775da388b7f)

So what changed around the 1980's? Whatever the problem is, it seems made by us

After 15 years under treatment as you can see here the penis will have retracted into itself creating a flat tight seal as it has become no longer useful in anyway.

https://i.imgur.com/u62tZrV.png

[indiscriminate_hater]

Who started cancel culture?

[Byue]

someone who wanted their opponent silenced, or someone who wanted someone spewing vile shit to stop.

easy to imagine the beginning of this.

in modern time though, generally speaking, conservative group try to cancel shit.
Like the mothers who made the explicit stamp on stuff happen, they initially wanted to cancel rock. Christians don't like gay characters.

And liberals don't like when Milo Yiannapo-what's-his-name-again-lis come on campus to discuss debunked ideas. Go talk about that on corporate playground where people believe you but don't bring your alt-right racist bullshit on campus.

you can see both modern side engage in culture war.
just depend on what you end up defending.

mr potato head.

or marginalized groups.

[Patriam1066]

someone who wanted their opponent silenced, or someone who wanted someone spewing vile shit to stop.

easy to imagine the beginning of this.

in modern time though, generally speaking, conservative group try to cancel shit.
Like the mothers who made the explicit stamp on stuff happen, they initially wanted to cancel rock. Christians don't like gay characters.

And liberals don't like when Milo Yiannapo-what's-his-name-again-lis come on campus to discuss debunked ideas. Go talk about that on corporate playground where people believe you but don't bring your alt-right racist bullshit on campus.

you can see both modern side engage in culture war.
just depend on what you end up defending.

mr potato head.

or marginalized groups.

Hey man I don’t believe Canadians are this bad at English, you sure you’re not a Palestinian or something?

[Midoo]

Where is the outrage I know you can have

Not your personal army, boomer

[FatherSioux]

The right absolutely does not take part in cancel culture at the same level. Laughably idiotic.

[Gravydoo II]

lol
hilarious.
I would post the list but who cares. We all know thats just silly. I do remember all those hippies protesting mason, metallica, the doors, elvis, eminem, lolol

[Byue]

I mean, at one point, conservatives called them Freedom fries, tried to cancel nascar (like really bro you think we watch that crap?) and a bunch of artists.

Some school libraries ban books because characters use witchcraft. Others do because of profanity or sexual content, or because of uncomfortable themes like racism.

But a great deal of the most frequently challenged books of the last decade center around LGBTQ characters and themes, an analysis from the American Library Association revealed.


Doesn't take a genius to know that steve fucking rick upset conservatives big time and they melt and god hates fags and shit.

Think about it, the book would have to be severely fucked up and pro very fucked up things to be banned by the "inclusive" left.

Just, can you choose? Either we are inclusive and kumbaya-ing our way into the destruction of the western civilization or we are cancelling everyone who disagree with us because we're the real racists -did I write racist? I meant fascists- but you can only pick one.



p.s: denying reality like the culture war around face masks and why they work -ask your surgeon about this next time he operates you!- is trying to cancel much more than fries, or people, or a general election. When you keep talking about a fraud you cannot prove, it is a lot like a dude in the subway yelling that god told him to do this.
If you believe it, you believe it but it has no basis in reality and that is cancel culture at its fucking zenith man.

[Horza]

The right absolutely does not take part in cancel culture at the same level. Laughably idiotic.

Liz Cheney says hi, dumbass.

[Toxigen]

Who started cancel culture?

https://i.imgur.com/HMt85qs.gif

[Pulgasari]

Who started cancel culture?

Urban II

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/HMt85qs.gif

It's never going to be the 1950s again, no matter how much you cry about it.

[Byue]

Go into a conservative bastion.
Kiss a person the same gender as you.
Talking about Islam.
And preaching about socialism.


Find out how fast you will get cancelled.
With guns. And threats on your life.


You are correct. Absolutely not the same level.

We forget about it but cancel culture is also amassing a lot of your angry racist polo wearing friends and go with tikki torches in a small southern town to chant "jews will not replace us" with other trump lovers like you.

Conservatives want you to focus on the bigot they send n campus or about mr potato head to make you forget the shit they do.

Like trying to cut food stamp benefits for unknown reasons.
Someone need that to live and you want to take it away and not be branded as a canceller?!? All the Martin Shkreli out there, canceling people with unreasonable hike on life saving medicines. Grow up with your narrow focus and interpretation of cancel culture.
You guys literally want to force women to keep unwanted babies, and spew shit like face masks don't work and that's cancelling a lot of human dignity and knowledge right there.


That is rich.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/HMt85qs.gif

^
Hilarious

[Mblake1981]

Go into a conservative bastion.
Kiss a person the same gender as you.
Talking about Islam.
And preaching about socialism.


Find out how fast you will get cancelled.
With guns. And threats on your life.


You are correct. Absolutely not the same level.

We forget about it but cancel culture is also amassing a lot of your angry racist polo wearing friends and go with tikki torches in a small southern town to chant "jews will not replace us" with other trump lovers like you.

Conservatives want you to focus on the bigot they send n campus or about mr potato head to make you forget the shit they do.

Like trying to cut food stamp benefits for unknown reasons.
Someone need that to live and you want to take it away and not be branded as a canceller?!? All the Martin Shkreli out there, canceling people with unreasonable hike on life saving medicines. Grow up with your narrow focus and interpretation of cancel culture.
You guys literally want to force women to keep unwanted babies, and spew shit like face masks don't work and that's cancelling a lot of human dignity and knowledge right there.


That is rich.


You
Don't
Live
Here
French
Asshole
:o

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/JiZ2L8V.png

[Jibartik]

what we got after cancel culture got rid of all the comedians (https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Just%20Chatting)

[Horza]

You
Don't
Live
Here
French
Asshole
:o

It must be tough being totally unable to defend your views and having to rely on petty, schoolyard insults.

[Mblake1981]

Not changing it and there is nothing more to say, idiot.

[Byue]

I mean, his strongest argument is I don't live in the USA and I'm sorry, does he have opinion on other countries than USA? Because it would mean he cannot.

Also, I lived in the USA for seven years.
Even made the mistake of marrying an American.

I'm not sure what his point is.
I don't think he has one.
These people would refuse to change their mind even when shown that 2+2 indeed, is 4 because they were told otherwise.
Proof is irrelevant.
Only what they have been told matters.
And 45 used to tweet a lot.

[Mblake1981]

I mean, his strongest argument is I don't live in the USA and I'm sorry, does he have opinion on other countries than USA? Because it would mean he cannot.

Moron, idiot, stupid person.. knuckle dragger

If you and Horza want to play goober smooch, take it to pms

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/aQLTWb0.jpg

[Jibartik]

horza and byue: stfu you're acting retarded

[Byue]

It was at this moment, that Mblake1981 started to feel the tightness begin.
He was tenderly looking at whatever byue wrote, and in an eager demonstration of love and stroke his very small veiny penis up and down. It was chafed and not very pelasuring but the expert hands of Mblake1981 knew what to do. After all, he knew his cock well enough to find pleasure even when pleasure was nowhere to be found. Mblake1981 found the little things in life his pride and joy. Like furiously writing his thoughts on a twenty years old forum, aah, pleasure rushed to his head and he continued stroking his little veiny penis, thinking about this mysterious french guy he obsessed over.
A few more pumps would release his sweet nectar he fully intended to slurp on, wondering if Byue's sperm would taste as good as his.

Mblake1981 had just oozed pleasure into his expert & very masculine hands.
Byue was his obsession.
He dreamt about it often and one day, he would like to be fucked by a real man.
That mysterious French guy, on this forum he went on. Mblake1981 was obsessing over him and he certainly hoped Byue liked penis the way Mblake1981 loved veiny small penises.

narrator: Byue did not, in fact, like penises the way Mblake1981 loved penises.

[Jibartik]

Shut the fuck up byue

[Jibartik]

It takes a high constitution to be able to stand beside byue that much I respect, but still STFU you two!

[Byue]

Jibartik woke up from a dream.
So many cocks!
He thought paradise must feel this way, being a roped up servile man servicing twenty of his handsome friends.
Penises everywhere. Cum oozing on his face, Jibartik knew he was right at home in the middle of a cock forest.

He thought, what if I try to make male friends who are just as lonely as I am, on a 20 years old forum, maybe I can finally have a cock necklace of my own!
Jibartik loved penises so much he wished he would make a close friends, on these forums.
This explained why he would come here, day in and day out.
He was after the penis of his life.

[Jibartik]

Projection sorry you are so depressed that you come here to take out all your anger on strangers.

[Toxigen]

Jibartik woke up from a dream.
So many cocks!
He thought paradise must feel this way, being a roped up servile man servicing twenty of his handsome friends.
Penises everywhere. Cum oozing on his face, Jibartik knew he was right at home in the middle of a cock forest.

He thought, what if I try to make male friends who are just as lonely as I am, on a 20 years old forum, maybe I can finally have a cock necklace of my own!
Jibartik loved penises so much he wished he would make a close friends, on these forums.
This explained why he would come here, day in and day out.
He was after the penis of his life.

you're legit fucking retarded

[Byue]

Suddenly he remembered. No!
Heaven is not being gangbanged by 20 of hishandsome friends.

It would be much better if they were big, black penises entering Jibartik's slender throat and tight anus. His fist clenched, where could he meet strangers because surely, strangers would fuck him harder than his friends and he was in the mood to be bottom for some rough unprotected anal sex with burly men.
He did not know, all he knew was the men of the forums of p99.
They were his life, his best friends.
His dream and obsession.

[Jibartik]

Aint nobody going to read that

[Horza]

Projection sorry you are so depressed that you come here to take out all your anger on strangers.

irony

[Byue]

You read it and loved it. You are really into homosexual erotica.
And since you're against cancel culture, let's keep the homosexual erotica going on.

this is the truth I love penises.

[Toxigen]

byue is having a full fledged meltdown

PMing me in all caps

[Jibartik]

what are you two trying to accomplish like right now you're reaching a fever pitch of angry replies whats it like to be you?

are you like HAHAHA I SAID HE HAD NO PENIS HAHAHAH!

[Jibartik]

irony

I literally contribute here and enjoy this game and making fun of politics

you are angry dont play and just ad hominem here same with byue

think about it

[Byue]

byue is having a full fledged meltdown

PMing me in all caps

Actually, is this true?

I literally contribute here and enjoy this game and making fun of politics

you are angry dont play and just ad hominem here same with byue

think about it


Are you trying to cancel us because we don't fit your narrative?
I probably play more than you.
Does this mean my opinion matters more than you?
Like how many 60 you have, how many manastones?

You're probably irrelevant in game as much as on here.

[Horza]

what are you two trying to accomplish like right now you're reaching a fever pitch of angry replies whats it like to be you?

are you like HAHAHA I SAID HE HAD NO PENIS HAHAHAH!

Jibartik is getting spicy :p

[Jibartik]

I also get Byue ad hominem PMs

[Pulgasari]

you're legit fucking retarded

[Byue]

I also get Byue ad hominem PMs


You know we can quote shit here.
Is this the truth?

Would you say this under oath?
We had a talk about lumber.
Where it turns out, you used talking points you did not even understand.
You thought they meant that people can't go back to work when in reality, the talking pint was about people refusing to work because the incentive is to stay home with Biden's paycheck which I argued without insults, that if 1400$ a month is a bigger incentive to stay home than working fulltime, you merely created shit jobs and lumber is not within that realm because it's one of the jobs uneducated rednecks can have and make decent money with.
You were just wrong.

[Toxigen]

hey look the canadian line cook and the unemployed american are both hardcore lefties

surely this is coincidence

[FatherSioux]

You're probably irrelevant in game as much as on here.

Things healthy folks don’t say.

[Byue]

Things healthy folks don’t say.

I mean, you called me worst things.
And you severely imply even worse.

What gives now?
I am not you so you can see clearer?
Plus it was a response to I don't belong here, which is also something healthy people say a lot of, right?
What is going on, can you latch off and realize we got more in common than not?

[Horza]

If we keep up the barrage of ad hominems, they're bound to become antifeminist Trump supporters eventually.

[Jibartik]

Byue has ranted about buying ar15s, burning down the forums and spams pm's and ad hominem to other posters.

I genuinely think he should be banned. He is only posting to troll and upset people because he is angry that there are people here that dont agree with his philosophies not any other reason

[Byue]

hey look the canadian line cook and the unemployed american are both hardcore lefties

surely this is coincidence

First, any job that requires doing is a job worth doing.
Second, I'm a trained chef with 10 years experience and with my own restaurant.
I do line cooking, but a lot more than just that.

Third, I also have a baccalaureate, speak three languages and what d you do, in your life, that makes you so much better than me, another human being?

Because we don't know.
What makes you important, beside being white and speaking English and being American?

[Pulgasari]

Stop trying to cancel each other you goons.

[Horza]

Burning down the forums would probably be a net positive to be honest.

[Byue]

I asked about moderation, not burning down the forums but if moderation, or regulation is burning down shit then yes, yes I absolutely did ask for that.

Please ask other people to cancel me on a cancel culture thread.
Do go on.

The right absolutely does not take part in cancel culture at the same level. Laughably idiotic.

[FatherSioux]

Love how this guy just out of hand dismisses an entire fields research and conclusions. We can "zoom out" we fucking live here. Temp goes up = bad. Ocean rising = bad. If you dont agree with it you just dismiss it, why even comment? lol

Oh its all "highly speculative" compared to what?? All your research??

If one in ten of all people on earth died, you would say "meh, not a mass dying." wow.. thats just fucking dumb. I cant even tell you how fucking stupid that is.

Not dismissing it, just not convinced the solutions put forth are of any consequence.

You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, it shows because you don’t talk about any facts, all feelings.

Also news flash, 10/10 people on earth die. 100% death rate

You claim mass extinction, I cite what that is defined as and show that we are not remotely close to those numbers. You mad, it’s okay bub.

Explain to me what field I dismissed, because it’s very rare that entire fields agree. The whole idea of science is to constantly take in new information and adapt. Science is now your religion and you don’t even know it. Your kinds are on a trajectory to ruin science as we know it. Math being racist for example

[Gustoo]

Burning down the forums would probably be a net positive to be honest.



These forums? Just like the servers and real life, they reflect people like you who may not be willing to do what it takes to make nice things nice.

[Jibartik]

Burning down the forums would probably be a net positive to be honest.

Start by you two going away, boom it's gone!

These are not some boards that are going to change the world, it's just nerds talking about politics together, fi its so painful for you, you cant make friends with the people you disagree with then YES, by all means, you should move on, these are not healthy for you.

[Horza]

Jibartik is getting spicy :p

[Jibartik]

I enjoyed posting with you horza as a online friend who I disagreed with but its clear you did not.

Get help, sorry you are so upset about me.

[Byue]

Start by you two going away, boom it's gone!

These are not some boards that are going to change the world, it's just nerds talking about politics together, fi its so painful for you, you cant make friends with the people you disagree with then YES, by all means, you should move on, these are not healthy for you.

I mean, you hate me and Horza and is genuinely asking us to leave and you write this and are you ok?
I'm sorry.

fi its so painful for you, you cant make friends with the people you disagree with then YES, by all means, you should move on, these are not healthy for you.

[Horza]

I enjoyed posting with you horza as a online friend who I disagreed with but its clear you did not.

Get help, sorry you are so upset about me.

If you think any of the people posting in this thread are your friends, then I have some bad news.

[Pulgasari]

You claim mass extinction, I cite what that is defined as and show that we are not remotely close to those numbers.

Explain to me what field I dismissed, because it’s very rare that entire fields agree. The whole idea of science is to constantly take in new information and adapt.

Found the content in your post.

I think the mass extinction claim relies on bugs and other low lifeforms. Centipedes especially.

[Jibartik]

Yeah I hate you and horza, that's what I said when I said I thought horza was my online friend while you and him spit and kick with insults for 3 pages replying to everything I post in multiple threads that arent even in RNF

[Gustoo]

Math being racist for example

Depends on what you're talking about.

The results of the blind use of mathmetical risk assessment models may indeed be racist results. https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/technology/weapons-of-math-destruction/index.html

Math itself, calculating things with data is not.

But using some kind of tool that is supposed to be impartial to make decisions for us may not be a just way to make decisions even if its convenient to say "I defer to the tool that someone made, sorry, the tool says so, can't do anything about it"

It applies to a lot of things like credit score. Its calculated mathematically but not necessarily fairly and the way it impacts your life outcomes should be given a hard look considering the tool itself is somewhat opaque, its power in your life and others should be scrutinized heavily.

But just saying "Math is racist" is more of a clickbait thing used to make the right hate the left more, and vice versa, since there seems to be interest in cultivating tribalism as much as possible, to our collective demise.

[Jibartik]

If you think any of the people posting in this thread are your friends, then I have some bad news.

if you log in every day to interact with people you think are NOT your online friends then i have some really bad news.

and if that's how youve felt this last 5 years, then im really sorry.

pretty sure I could group with anyone here and have a great night, im disappointed you disagree.

Byue I dont like you because of the way you have attacked me and called me stupid and wrong about everything that I say without offering anything but ad hominem as a reason why.

[FatherSioux]

First, any job that requires doing is a job worth doing.
Second, I'm a trained chef with 10 years experience and with my own restaurant.
I do line cooking, but a lot more than just that.

Third, I also have a baccalaureate, speak three languages and what d you do, in your life, that makes you so much better than me, another human being?

Because we don't know.
What makes you important, beside being white and speaking English and being American?

You learned English because we dominate the world. You learned French because you were born there. Americans not knowing more languages is a indicator of world dominance. Who knows what your other language is but you probably struggle.

So you washed dishes for 8 years, owner finally let you near the food as long as you shower regularly. Now you’re a line cook with two years experience, selling it as 10 to the elf forums. You clearly assign value to your p99 character which is a huge sign that you do not have much value in the real world.

It’s okay to be a peasant. Move along buddy.

[FatherSioux]

Depends on what you're talking about.

The results of the blind use of mathmetical risk assessment models may indeed be racist results. https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/technology/weapons-of-math-destruction/index.html

Math itself, calculating things with data is not.

But using some kind of tool that is supposed to be impartial to make decisions for us may not be a just way to make decisions even if its convenient to say "I defer to the tool that someone made, sorry, the tool says so, can't do anything about it"

But just saying "Math is racist" is more of a clickbait thing used to make the right hate the left more, and vice versa, since there seems to be interest in cultivating tribalism as much as possible, to our collective demise.

Pure trash article. Inequality is not on the rise. Math is racist is perhaps the most insane thing anyone could say. It’s the purist form of an objective reality. You should take a nap.

[Gustoo]

If you think any of the people posting in this thread are your friends, then I have some bad news.

I'm jibartiks friend. Would help the wisest necro IRL if given a chance.

[Gustoo]

Pure trash article. Inequality is not on the rise. Math is racist is perhaps the most insane thing anyone could say. It’s the purist form of an objective reality. You should take a nap.

I didn't read the article I was providing it as reference to the concept.

The idea is that the tools we create and their implementation can have unintended (or fully intended) results. The tools aren't impartial.

Math is impartial. Our tools that use math are not. Get it?

[Toxigen]

Math, coffee, and arriving to appointments on time is all racist.

Hope you enjoy the next 40 years, you evil white business owner.

[Horza]

if you log in every day to interact with people you think are NOT your online friends then i have some really bad news.

and if that's how youve felt this last 5 years, then im really sorry.

pretty sure I could group with anyone here and have a great night, im disappointed you disagree.

My friends don't tell me to shut the fuck up, accuse me of secretly not playing the game, and repeatedly insult me because of political disagreements.

[Jibartik]

I'm jibartiks friend. Would help the wisest necro IRL if given a chance.

Thanks gusto! :o

This is a game guys, it's not a place that you should go to feel hate and anger. :(

[Gustoo]

To be more specific. Lets say I make a spreadsheet that calculates risk.

5% risk associated with location A (based on high school graduation rates of the people there)
15% risk associated with location B (based on high school graduation rates of the people there)

and other risk factors that I assign a value to with a math tool (a spreadsheet). This risk % is calculated equally based on the given rates of graduation, or whatever the variable.

I put your info into a few cells in a spreadsheet, and my tool says 72% safe, and my minimum safe percent is 75% , so I reject you.

Did my tool (me) reject you, or did "math" reject you.

I am making a tool like this right now to support a business decision. Depending on how I present the information I can make the decision as positive or negative as possible. When discussing these things for the collective good of my organization I take pains to explain the riskiest possible perspective, and the least risky possible perspective using the same data.

I can easily make a tool that applies equal "fair" weights to all the variables that will provide rejection status for whatever particular group or area that I want to be rejected. I can cater the tool to my needs. The tool objectively uses provided data and fairly applies weights but always rejects certain types of people. I can make the tool do what I want. There is an error in assuming the risk assessment tools we create for ourselves are somehow neutral. We make them. We don't have to listen to what they say and as a society we should have a say in the way these things are handled. Math isn't racist, but my math based tool can easily be.

[Pulgasari]

Pure trash article. Inequality is not on the rise. Math is racist is perhaps the most insane thing anyone could say. It’s the purist form of an objective reality. You should take a nap.

Purest.

[Nirgon]

Burning down the forums would probably be a net positive to be honest.

No

[Toxigen]

San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

lmao

[Jibartik]

You pushed me dude YOU pushed me. I just sent you a PM about hwo you genuenly made me feel bad today is that not enough??? you have to try to make me feel even worse by painting this fake narrative that I attacked you?! Everyone knows me here, im friends with everyone but byue and you now apparently you were making a fool of me this whole time

I literally post here because people here get along with each others sensibilities

but what you and byue do is just attack and insult people literally all day long and I have thrown you a bone every time and now that after all these years I tell you to shut the fuck up once and you think you can use that as a reason to have been this way for years????

I really bummed me out today to log into these boards and read you and byue just insulting me not online in this thread but you horza followed me to other threads this morning to iunsult me more.

Im here to talk about stuff I love you're here today to hurt me.

[Byue]

if you log in every day to interact with people you think are NOT your online friends then i have some really bad news.

and if that's how youve felt this last 5 years, then im really sorry.

pretty sure I could group with anyone here and have a great night, im disappointed you disagree.

Byue I dont like you because of the way you have attacked me and called me stupid and wrong about everything that I say without offering anything but ad hominem as a reason why.



Is this why we have threads about "potato in office" and constant barrage of conservative news on who they hate now? Is this healthy, too?

I offered you plenty of reasons, and I barely insult anyone, in comparison.
You also called me stupid and now you openly say you hate me.
Calm down. Don't melt down.
Even if we concerted our efforts to attack you, your league is still bigger and you guys barrage insult us on the daily.
You complained I sent you a respectful pm and yet you send some, too. Calm down. Don't melt down on us.

You can have the political opinions you want, I respect that but you need to back it in reality like hating blacks, ok whatever but hating them because it is proven they have a smaller brain is just dumb.

Grow up.

[Jibartik]

because you hate conservative news does not give you free reign to attack people.

you dont even care your goal is to burn down the forums and these types of replies are obvious you're trying to do that.

you spam reply insults and tell people to get a grip that accuse you of being wrong or disagree about anything, its just classic internet troll.

[Pulgasari]

San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

lmao

They never did (https://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-retweets-bogus-crime-graphic/)

[Horza]

Someone think of the conservative news outlets!

[Gustoo]

Math, coffee, and arriving to appointments on time is all racist.

Hope you enjoy the next 40 years, you evil white business owner.

While all these assertions are super stupid out of context, they usually have some context to provide the actual point of the stupid assertion. The way it makes you feel when you hear the asinine assertions is an intended result to deepen the tribalist rift in the USA, to our demise. The only way to beat this is to realize that your phyiscal IRL neighbor might think that "Math, coffee, and arriving to appointments on time is all racist" and not realize how repulsive the very concept is to you. The person that gets sucked into standing with some dumb views is not your enemy, that person is your brother or sister. Your enemy is the people that continue to sell your down the river, democrat or republican, left or right. Decisions made at the highest levels to disregard your life and the life of our posterity.

Think about childhood education. We know 100% fact that the first 5 years of a kids life predict 80% of their success rate. Look at how much money we as a society spend on kids. Look at how well we accomodate for kids in our society. The answer is that our actual actions indicate we don't give a fuck about them, despite knowing that all of our problems can be put to bed if we don't keep creating ruined kids. We don't give a fuck. It's on all of us but step 1 is not hating someone who for whatever reason thinks some DUMB ASS SHIT is true.

Horza : change your avatar so people can stop hating you so much. The raging lunatic image is really strong.

[Byue]

Someone think of the conservative news outlets!

Please can rush Limbaugh have his job back?
Can Tucker Carlson have more on air time?

San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

lmao


The problem, Jibartik, is you call on me to inciting shit and you obtusely and purposefully ignore this sort of message your friends leave around.

I have views that are contrary to yours, and I can hold them while obviously, you guys don't want to engage in politics, just this sort of gotcha conservatives are all about.

if you want to discuss shit, say what you want to talk about, stop whining.
Right now though, this is a thread about cancel culture and the republicans cancelling liz cheney.

You good with that?

[Toxigen]

While all these assertions are super stupid out of context, they usually have some context to provide the actual point of the stupid assertion. The way it makes you feel when you hear the asinine assertions is an intended result to deepen the tribalist rift in the USA, to our demise. The only way to beat this is to realize that your phyiscal IRL neighbor might think that "Math, coffee, and arriving to appointments on time is all racist" and not realize how repulsive the very concept is to you. The person that gets sucked into standing with some dumb views is not your enemy, that person is your brother or sister. Your enemy is the people that continue to sell your down the river, democrat or republican, left or right. Decisions made at the highest levels to disregard your life and the life of our posterity.


Time is a social construct and is inherently racist. People of color shouldn't be punished for not showing up on time for job interviews because their culture doesn't put a big emphasis on the importance of punctuality.

muh science that says it so (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-time-is-a-social-construct-164139110/#:~:text=University%20of%20Missouri%20management%2 0scholar,socialization%20processes%2C%E2%80%9D%20h e%20says.)

[Jibartik]

You are whining, youre whining to me about other people. You're directly addressing me about things that OTHER PEOPLE DO.

I did say what I wanted to talk about the END TIMES and then you replied like you knew what I was talking about and start ranting to me about your opinions on israel/gaza if you knew anything about me you'd know I was WAY beyond that argument.

you assume you know what people are talking about or what they are thinking and then make up arguments based on assumptions, you dont actually know anyone or what their ideas or opinions are here, you dont know me and you have been wrong about every single thing you have literaly said "you think this" about.

You dont want to talk about politics, you want to take out your aggression about politics on people you think represent the people you cant take out your aggressions on.

[Horza]

You are whining, youre whining to me about other people. You're directly addressing me about things that OTHER PEOPLE DO.

I did say what I wanted to talk about the END TIMES and then you replied like you knew what I was talking about and start ranting to me about your opinions on israel/gaza if you knew anything about me you'd know I was WAY beyond that argument.

you assume you know what people are talking about or what they are thinking and then make up arguments based on assumptions, you dont actually know anyone or what their ideas or opinions are here, you dont know me and you have been wrong about every single thing you have literaly said "you think this" about.

You dont want to talk about politics, you want to take out your aggression about politics on people you think represent the people you cant take out your aggressions on.

Byue just got canceled.

[FatherSioux]

Risk assessment based on facts and math are not racist. Your only variable in your equation there is a undefined term you apparently are assigning the value to. If you’re racist and inflate that then you are racist. How that situation would ever equate to math being racist is dumb. Also, the idea is that these seemingly benign things labeled as racist is because white men discovered/created them. Which is insane as well.

The whole narrative from the progressive left is laughable false. They claim that whites people are inherently racist with no real path forward and demand a solution that is explicit racism. Treating others different based on race is racist. Treating people different because they act different, not racist.

[Shawk]

Patriam1066, Mblake1981, FatherSioux, and G13 are way worse than Byul.

Both annoying. But the brain dead religious right wing nut jobs are far worse than some harmless SJW's opinions.

Trying to create a safe space perhaps? One for only Religous macho fucking pussy bois with "d33p" g4m3r right wing opinions?

Progressives got your scared?

[Raev]

Patriam1066, Mblake1981, FatherSioux, and G13 are way worse than Byul.

Just no, unless this is your kind of thing: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3305340&postcount=123

[Shawk]

Just no, unless this is your kind of thing: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3305340&postcount=123

Ya ban the guy he made a disgusting joke. Lol.. logic.

Maybe it is all you who are the SJWs.. making your own little social justice happen to ban those you don't agree with.. But then again like I said, religious safe space junkies love attacking the SJW for getting away with their favorite strategies of suppression.

[indiscriminate_hater]

San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

lmao

Fun fact: they implemented this policy to try and prevent racial discrimination and profiling, since some races are responsible for an extremely disproportionate rate of crime in the bay area and they thought that withholding this information would prevent people from noticing patterns. In reality it's had the opposite effect. People here aren't dumb and know what's up, and end up discussing the crimes and the coverups more than they used to, a la Barbara Streisand effect.

As an example: there's been a very large recent spike in violent black-on-asian crimes in the bay area, and the distrust of blacks is skyrocketing within the asian community. The police report very little information on the perp ("it was a man in his 30s"), and this has caused asians to feel like they're not being protected by the police. So the racial component inevitably ends up leaked on Nextdoor, Facebook, Clubhouse and the like, and this has created some serious discrimination and profiling between these communities.

So strange, I thought woke policies were meant to improve society?

[FatherSioux]

Patriam1066, Mblake1981, FatherSioux, and G13 are way worse than Byul.

Both annoying. But the brain dead religious right wing nut jobs are far worse than some harmless SJW's opinions.

Trying to create a safe space perhaps? One for only Religous macho fucking pussy bois with "d33p" g4m3r right wing opinions?

Progressives got your scared?

Champion of safe spaces calling anyone a pussy. Top notch irony.

[Toxigen]

Fun fact: they implemented this policy to try and prevent racial discrimination and profiling, since some races are responsible for an extremely disproportionate rate of crime in the bay area and they thought that withholding this information would prevent people from noticing patterns. In reality it's had the opposite effect. People here aren't dumb and know what's up, and end up discussing the crimes and the coverups more than they used to, a la Barbara Streisand effect.

As an example: there's been a very large recent spike in violent black-on-asian crimes in the bay area, and the distrust of blacks is skyrocketing within the asian community. The police report very little information on the perp ("it was a man in his 30s"), and this has caused asians to feel like they're not being protected by the police. So the racial component inevitably ends up leaked on Nextdoor, Facebook, Clubhouse and the like, and this has created some serious discrimination and profiling between these communities.

So strange, I thought woke policies were meant to improve society?

*chuckles in logic*

[Pulgasari]

Fun fact: they implemented this policy to try and prevent racial discrimination and profiling, since some races are responsible for an extremely disproportionate rate of crime in the bay area and they thought that withholding this information would prevent people from noticing patterns. In reality it's had the opposite effect. People here aren't dumb and know what's up, and end up discussing the crimes and the coverups more than they used to, a la Barbara Streisand effect.

As an example: there's been a very large recent spike in violent black-on-asian crimes in the bay area, and the distrust of blacks is skyrocketing within the asian community. The police report very little information on the perp ("it was a man in his 30s"), and this has caused asians to feel like they're not being protected by the police. So the racial component inevitably ends up leaked on Nextdoor, Facebook, Clubhouse and the like, and this has created some serious discrimination and profiling between these communities.

So strange, I thought woke policies were meant to improve society?

Solve for gender or economic class instead, racist math-doer. :cool:

[Shawk]

Champion of safe spaces calling anyone a pussy. Top notch irony.

Champion? Literally against safe spaces.. I called you people pussies because it is literally all you say. That is your language I am using to communicate with you.

Speaking troll race is fucking hard.

You there bud?

[Jibartik]

people angry today

anyone into astrology got any theories why?

[Shawk]

people angry today

anyone into astrology got any theories why?

Right, you aren't though.. Religious saint spouting bullshit doomer logic. Chronic Blame is a epidemic, try some self reflection.

Ask your fictional and/or mythological religious texts? They have the answer to everything.

For instance, I am not right, nor are you. This is how your Freedom of Speak works, some 'Lefty' speaking his opinions means ban him cause his opinion is upsetting me... lmao, explain this logic, or just banter on to misdirect.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Solve for gender or economic class instead, racist math-doer. :cool:

Hope this helps

https://i.imgur.com/ShNvmAt.png

[strongNpretty]

people angry today

anyone into astrology got any theories why?

I'm here now, everything is ok!!!!

[Toxigen]

Hope this helps

https://i.imgur.com/ShNvmAt.png

noooooo statistics are RACIST

CANCEL

[Pulgasari]

Hope this helps

https://i.imgur.com/ShNvmAt.png

That's still solving for race you idiot. :p

[Horza]

people angry today

anyone into astrology got any theories why?

https://i.imgur.com/CVcJOoO.png

[Pulgasari]

noooooo statistics are RACIST

CANCEL

Solving for race is racist. That's all.

[Toxigen]

Solving for race is racist. That's all.

ok 13 50

solved

[Pulgasari]

ok 13 50

solved

It's not morally actionable, you just have a potty mouth. :p

[indiscriminate_hater]

Solving for race is racist. That's all.

There's a difference between using statistics to justify prejudice and using statistics to identify a problem. The former is racist, the latter is humanitarian (which ironically seems to escape the left wing).

Please try your best to move past whatever conditioning has caused you to shriek an unjustified and incorrect term every time someone mentions race.

[Raev]

Ya ban the guy he made a disgusting joke. Lol.. logic.

Maybe it is all you who are the SJWs.. making your own little social justice happen to ban those you don't agree with.. But then again like I said, religious safe space junkies love attacking the SJW for getting away with their favorite strategies of suppression.

Truth and Beauty naturally oppress Falsehood and Ugliness by virtue of their innate superiority. The good news is that you and Byue can stop whining about everyone else and begin your personal attempt to make the Earth a better place at any time. It's hard work, but it does lead to real personal growth among other things.

There's a difference between using statistics to justify prejudice and using statistics to identify a problem. The former is racist, the latter is humanitarian (which ironically seems to escape the left wing).

Why not simply make the system color blind? All we have to do is remove welfare and let evolution continue naturally. The worst people of all races will naturally fall behind. Props for posting the statistic though; it's past time that the American people started discussing the insanity critical race theory and its demand of equality of outcome.

[Pulgasari]

There's a difference between using statistics to justify prejudice and using statistics to identify a problem. The former is racist, the latter is humanitarian (which ironically seems to escape the left wing).

Please try your best to move past whatever conditioning has caused you to shriek an unjustified and incorrect term every time someone mentions race.

Vulgar beast or illegitimate heir of Liberty?

[unsunghero]

Im here to talk about stuff I love you're here today to hurt me.

If you don’t respect the person, then their opinion of you shouldn’t matter

I bask in liberal’s hatred of me. I wrap myself up in it, like a warm blanket

[unsunghero]

Please can rush Limbaugh have his job back?



Um, he’s dead

[unsunghero]

There's a difference between using statistics to justify prejudice and using statistics to identify a problem. The former is racist, the latter is humanitarian (which ironically seems to escape the left wing).

Please try your best to move past whatever conditioning has caused you to shriek an unjustified and incorrect term every time someone mentions race.

If crime rates are a problem for a particular ethnicity than it can only be due to overpolicing and systemic racism

Just like the fact that there are 10x as many men incarcerated for violent crimes as women can ONLY be explained as the justice system is sexist towards men. There can be no other reason

Obviously

[Gustoo]

Time is a social construct and is inherently racist. People of color shouldn't be punished for not showing up on time for job interviews because their culture doesn't put a big emphasis on the importance of punctuality.

muh science that says it so (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-time-is-a-social-construct-164139110/#:~:text=University%20of%20Missouri%20management%2 0scholar,socialization%20processes%2C%E2%80%9D%20h e%20says.)

Like I said - its dumb.

Solution isn't to hate the people that think wrong. It is to love them.

Hating them makes you and them lose, as they return your hatred tit for tat while both parties sell your water rights to the corporation who gave them their government jobs.

[Shawk]

The good news is that you and Byue can stop whining about everyone else and begin your personal attempt to make the Earth a better place at any time. It's hard work, but it does lead to real personal growth among other things.

And what exactly do you think you're doing to make the Earth a better place? Enlighten me oh grandstanding one.

[Shawk]

Why not simply make the system color blind? All we have to do is remove welfare and let evolution continue naturally. The worst people of all races will naturally fall behind. Props for posting the statistic though; it's past time that the American people started discussing the insanity critical race theory and its demand of equality of outcome.

And you see.. The ivory tower speaks.

Thinking they can deal with mass genocide, depravity, claiming they're intellectuals...

This is why gamers today have no credibility, bunch of fucking idiots.

[Jibartik]

Right, you aren't though.. Religious saint spouting bullshit doomer logic. Chronic Blame is a epidemic, try some self reflection.

Ask your fictional and/or mythological religious texts? They have the answer to everything.

For instance, I am not right, nor are you. This is how your Freedom of Speak works, some 'Lefty' speaking his opinions means ban him cause his opinion is upsetting me... lmao, explain this logic, or just banter on to misdirect.

I think its clear I am extremely angry today.

But idk why you're angry with me?

wbat are my mythological religious texts? tunare is queen?

If me enjoying cri-fi bothers you to the point that youd be upset with me im sorry.

[Gustoo]

Risk assessment based on facts and math are not racist. Your only variable in your equation there is a undefined term you apparently are assigning the value to. If you’re racist and inflate that then you are racist. How that situation would ever equate to math being racist is dumb. Also, the idea is that these seemingly benign things labeled as racist is because white men discovered/created them. Which is insane as well.

The whole narrative from the progressive left is laughable false. They claim that whites people are inherently racist with no real path forward and demand a solution that is explicit racism. Treating others different based on race is racist. Treating people different because they act different, not racist.

I agree.

The way these things are presented to you are presented in a way to create the most cringe of feelings so that you know that the other side can never be spoken to, understood, or trusted. This is the foundations of tribalism and the foundations for civil war that never goes away. It is the undoing of the united states of america and perhaps pax americana globally as it is not only taking root here.

The claims, whatever they are by any of your fellow victims left or right may and probably are completely wrong. What you do with that fact is what I am questioning. The way you treat the people that think wrong and the way they treat people that think wrong is the important thing. If we are all scowling at eachother ready to attack we are all thrown in the loser victim bucket of the powers that be forever. The only way to win is to choose love and to resolve problems.

When you're on the internet now you see the most hateful dumbest ass ideas you've ever seen in your life, presented to you as if there is 50% population that believes in this new dumb narrative. In reality, most conservatives just don't want to kill babies and give hand outs and most liberals think that more social programs might help. The new terminology and definition of racism that is a pile of rubbish to 80% of people who hear it is almost certainly meant simply to confound us all and make it even more difficult to see eye to eye. When are are at eachothers throats, "they" can go about their business selling us down the river together with all the other rubbish.

The wrongs you see in the faulty terrible ideas are absolutely true. But your hatred and anger are misdirected. The stupid old man who voted democrat the last 11 elections and thinks "hes an allright guy!" about whatever politician they select is no more culpible than the stupid old man who voted republican the last 11 elections and thinks "hes an allright guy!" about whatever politician the republicans selected.

We're all to blame for the shit box red 99 server, and we are all to blame for the messes that we are in. We are to blame not because we don't have the right beliefs or values or understandings to JAM DOWN SOMEONES THROAT but because we don't have enough love and empathy to realize that we have everything we need to take care of eachother if we would just stop cutting eachothers throats for our space on the /list in real life and on p99 green.


We're all racing to the red light https://open.spotify.com/track/4axyVCnu6AzqkveDHXAmo8?si=a6d08d3de5264f34
And no one can make it here anymore
https://open.spotify.com/track/5YxWVwME2nR2VkfVDJHXKH?si=53cfbd31f402495b

[Jibartik]

I wrap myself up in it, like a warm blanket

this is good advice I forget we're in the tribulation.

https://i.imgur.com/D9K204V.png

[Shawk]

I think its clear I am extremely angry today.

But idk why you're angry with me?

wbat are my mythological religious texts? tunare is queen?

If me enjoying cri-fi bothers you to the point that youd be upset with me im sorry.

Again, you bring up this anger thing.. What anger?

You were basically asking for his ban..

You brought up astrology, so I brought up the right wing version of astrology which is called religion to make fun of the lot of you.

Again, the upset thing.. You are legit acting like I victimized you.. I aam sorry if I hurt your feelings.

[Horza]

All we have to do is remove welfare and let evolution continue naturally. The worst people of all races will naturally fall behind. Props for posting the statistic though; it's past time that the American people started discussing the insanity critical race theory and its demand of equality of outcome.

https://i.imgur.com/pS07UIk.png

[Gustoo]

They claim that whites people are inherently racist with no real path forward and demand a solution that is explicit racism. Treating others different based on race is racist. Treating people different because they act different, not racist.

I agree completely.

There is a completely different definition of "racism" that is by traditional definitions, racist. It is a made up thing invented in a class room and it makes it impossible to see eye to eye, when a spade for one person is not a spade for another.

"math is racist" is an idiotic claim. 100% this is a fact. Percentages are math.

Risk assessment tools CAN be racist is a valid claim. They can be racist, and they need to be looked at. They are not impartial. The individual facts that make up the tool "this thing happens here" "this person did this" are all actual facts, but the way we utilize these facts to designate pass/fail is subjective not objective and is something to be mindful of. Thats all.

But when you see the headline "Super prominent well respected university professor demonstrates definitively that MATH IS RACIST" or "That OBJECTIVE REALITIY IS RACIST" what does this do for you? These things are meant to get your hackels up and feel trapped in a box where the world around you is so dumb you can't believe it. Then you can depression shop on amazon and depression post on everquest messageboards.

Don't fall for it. Your neighbors are fine. The brain-shit-bombs being thrown at you that make you feel like you've got a target on your back are thrown at your for that exact purpose.

[Shawk]

Like I said - its dumb.

Solution isn't to hate the people that think wrong. It is to love them.

Hating them makes you and them lose, as they return your hatred tit for tat while both parties sell your water rights to the corporation who gave them their government jobs.

I agree sure but it isn't always possible with the amount of hate going on, the amount of manipulation. This narrative only works so far then you notice everyone standing around loving all the lovers, not putting their love on haters but really just using it as some sort of passive aggressive combative nature.

The Fox New listener vs the CNN listener.. Do we "love" these medias until they fall from love overdose? They are inciting these idiots.

[Byue]

I believe there is an end time post but since nobody with their right mind believe in some bearded dude in the sky and his faggot son who died for our sins like that make sense, you're shit out of luck but you can try talking about right wing cancel culture if you want, in this thread.



The Fox New listener vs the CNN listener.. Do we "love" these medias until they fall from love overdose? They are inciting these idiots.

who the fuck gets riled up watching cnn, conservatives?

[Toxigen]

I believe there is an end time post but since nobody with their right mind believe in some bearded dude in the sky and his faggot son who died for our sins like that make sense, you're shit out of luck but you can try talking about right wing cancel culture if you want, in this thread.



enjoy your ban

[Shawk]

who the fuck gets riled up watching cnn, conservatives?

You literally made my point. You are no better.

[Horza]

who the fuck gets riled up watching cnn, conservatives?

But.. but... AOC is a menance to society!

[unsunghero]

this is good advice I forget we're in the tribulation.

https://i.imgur.com/D9K204V.png

Nah, don’t need a tribe either. Most of my values coincide with conservatives, but I have no problems challenging some of their more far right ideas that I don’t agree with like I am pro gay marriage rights, being pro-adult tran’s rights (trans kids medications is dicey because parent could be suffering from Munchausen syndrome), etc

I have no problem going against the tribe and if the tribe becomes too fucked up, no problem leaving and standing alone. I have a lot of confidence in myself, and it helps when taking attacks on all sides

Edit: oops I thought u meant tribalism lol

[Byue]

I do not think there will be a ban for that.
I seen the word get used before.

But if I do, they're coming for you next, guaranteed.
You are a very small man with a small penis and small ideas.

I wish you could get recycled but by all standards, you're trash.
Much like your country, the only way you can get ahead is if you put people behind by trashing them.

[nostalgiaquest]

Hey cool another politics thread where the same 5 people spit in each others’ mouths. Exactly what we needed!

https://i.imgur.com/APnbeXj.jpg

[Byue]

We are more than five!

[Nocht]

Hey cool another politics thread where the same 5 people spit in each others’ mouths. Exactly what we needed!

TROOF!!

[Horza]

I'm counting ten or so in this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/XYUymbc.png

[Gustoo]

I agree sure but it isn't always possible with the amount of hate going on, the amount of manipulation. This narrative only works so far then you notice everyone standing around loving all the lovers, not putting their love on haters but really just using it as some sort of passive aggressive combative nature.

The Fox New listener vs the CNN listener.. Do we "love" these medias until they fall from love overdose? They are inciting these idiots.

You gotta love the person you're 100% sure deserves that curb stomp. Thats who.

The blm bernie guy needs to pull the maga hat guy out of the gutter and the maga hat guy needs to pull the blm bernie guy out of the gutter.

IMO its 100% equal proportion blame for the tribalism. We're responding to eachother because we responded to eachother. Gotta break the chain. We don't need to get people what they deserve. We need to give them the help or second chance we would always give ourselves.

There is a reason Jesus didn't waste time telling people about the best policies. All the policies that are shit are symptoms of not loving your neighbor as yourself. Your neighbor is literally anyone you see. Thats why a maga hat guy needs to pull the BLM hat guy out of the gutter.

Any media person presenting information that helps support your or your coutnerparts riled up state about "those scums" is just poison.


Big social media manipulates elections by changing 2 percent of a target populations opinion about something. Its statistically significant. Its not a lot, but it matters.

Every single minor effort you or I can make to treat the person on the other side of the chasm with love has a profound effect. It doesn't always seem worth the effort, but it 1000% is. We don't need to pass a law to stop facebook from brainwashing us. We can just go out and be nice to like 1 person a week to undo all their shit.

Good luck pals

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/APnbeXj.jpg

Lol burning elmo gif is the appropriate response :)

[Nocht]

You gotta love the person you're 100% sure deserves that curb stomp. Thats who.

The blm bernie guy needs to pull the maga hat guy out of the gutter and the maga hat guy needs to pull the blm bernie guy out of the gutter.

IMO its 100% equal proportion blame for the tribalism. We're responding to eachother because we responded to eachother. Gotta break the chain. We don't need to get people what they deserve. We need to give them the help or second chance we would always give ourselves.

There is a reason Jesus didn't waste time telling people about the best policies. All the policies that are shit are symptoms of not loving your neighbor as yourself. Your neighbor is literally anyone you see. Thats why a maga hat guy needs to pull the BLM hat guy out of the gutter.

Any media person presenting information that helps support your or your coutnerparts riled up state about "those scums" is just poison.


Big social media manipulates elections by changing 2 percent of a target populations opinion about something. Its statistically significant. Its not a lot, but it matters.

Every single minor effort you or I can make to treat the person on the other side of the chasm with love has a profound effect. It doesn't always seem worth the effort, but it 1000% is. We don't need to pass a law to stop facebook from brainwashing us. We can just go out and be nice to like 1 person a week to undo all their shit.

Good luck pals

Well said!

[Horza]

Interesting Trumpers are all about that turn the other cheek mentality and a diversity of perspectives all of a sudden.

I wonder what changed during the last few months?

[Pulgasari]

Taking action on racial data is probably not ok!

If you just wanna say naughty things online, lol.

[Wrekt]

https://i.imgur.com/AfPYG7K.jpg

i laughed. i made almost this exact comment earlier to someone. so true.

can't the republican party cease to exist, the democrats be the right and we get an actual leftward-pushing party?

democrats have holdouts and we can't get major legislature through because of corporate dems. mcconnel touted that stupid arizona trash senator promising that she would vote down 15$ minimum and she's supposed to be a dem. so here's some funny shit! mcconnell's voting record is just baaaaarely right of sinema.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/mitch_mcconnell/300072

Sinema and Manchin are to the right of some republicans...

I would love an actual leftist party. Don't have to be anarchists/communists or anything, but goddamn something left... progressive party even that's pro workers. most of the dems act like the word union is taboo.

[Byue]

WEll that Biden speech on union had severe FDR feel to it.

Unless the gop split for a 45th party, the dems should not split.
The problem in most countries is we have 18 million leftist party and only one right wing party because usually, "hate gays, hate blacks and women" is usually enough to rally those together. Don't split the left, is my advice and what most leftists from other countries would say. Find compromises.

[Baler]

WEll that Biden speech on union had severe FDR feel to it.

Unless the gop split for a 45th party, the dems should not split.
The problem in most countries is we have 18 million leftist party and only one right wing party because usually, "hate gays, hate blacks and women" is usually enough to rally those together. Don't split the left, is my advice and what most leftists from other countries would say. Find compromises.

If there are
18 million leftist party
Then they're not all leftist. :rolleyes:

[unsunghero]

Interesting Trumpers are all about that turn the other cheek mentality and a diversity of perspectives all of a sudden.

I wonder what changed during the last few months?

The only cheeks in turning towards you are on my hairy ass

[Wrekt]

WEll that Biden speech on union had severe FDR feel to it.

Unless the gop split for a 45th party, the dems should not split.
The problem in most countries is we have 18 million leftist party and only one right wing party because usually, "hate gays, hate blacks and women" is usually enough to rally those together. Don't split the left, is my advice and what most leftists from other countries would say. Find compromises.

That's a reasonable take. And you're absolutely correct about the right uniting behind hate or some other single issue like guns and abortion.

[Baler]

That's a reasonable take. And you're absolutely correct about the right uniting behind hate or some other single issue like guns and abortion.

no its not,.. its a way for people who think they are leftist to believe they are the majority.

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Edit:
https://i.imgur.com/bkQkiCj.png

[Shawk]

You gotta love the person you're 100% sure deserves that curb stomp. Thats who.

The blm bernie guy needs to pull the maga hat guy out of the gutter and the maga hat guy needs to pull the blm bernie guy out of the gutter.

IMO its 100% equal proportion blame for the tribalism. We're responding to eachother because we responded to eachother. Gotta break the chain. We don't need to get people what they deserve. We need to give them the help or second chance we would always give ourselves.

There is a reason Jesus didn't waste time telling people about the best policies. All the policies that are shit are symptoms of not loving your neighbor as yourself. Your neighbor is literally anyone you see. Thats why a maga hat guy needs to pull the BLM hat guy out of the gutter.

Any media person presenting information that helps support your or your coutnerparts riled up state about "those scums" is just poison.


Big social media manipulates elections by changing 2 percent of a target populations opinion about something. Its statistically significant. Its not a lot, but it matters.

Every single minor effort you or I can make to treat the person on the other side of the chasm with love has a profound effect. It doesn't always seem worth the effort, but it 1000% is. We don't need to pass a law to stop facebook from brainwashing us. We can just go out and be nice to like 1 person a week to undo all their shit.

Good luck pals

Meanwhile, facebook wants to make a instagram for children.

I agree and want this "utopia" type thing to happen but if we don't heavily drag zuck, google, twitch etc etc then this is not going to end any time soon. Right just blames left for zuck etc while they themselves use these social medias like fiends..

When even basic hypocrisy cannot be seen you can't think these people have brain power of any sort worth fighting for.. They have no empathy, they are heavily drugged lunatics.

[Baler]

Meanwhile, facebook wants to make a instagram for children.

face
book
a book of faces

Get the kids hooked on it so they grow up and teach their kids.

The war is not going on against our old folks, it's the young people they want to change.

You think they learned nothing from the 60s after they shut it down? Hah..
Why do you think politicians use words like Hope and Change. Or look directly at the camera when they talk.

[Gravydoo II]

The democratic party already out numbers the republican party by 40 million. The problem is gerrymandering. You cannot win if your districts are shaped and divided up into unwinnable shapes and populations. They make these stupid rules which benefit themselves, then strip power from the position if you manage to win before you take office.
Thats where we live. They can just declare an emergency session, kill the bill, and thats that. Status quo protected.

[-TK-]

IMO its 100% equal proportion blame for the tribalism. We're responding to eachother because we responded to eachother. Gotta break the chain. We don't need to get people what they deserve. We need to give them the help or second chance we would always give ourselves.

Your good intentions are falling on mostly deaf ears around here, my friend. Most of the dregs posting in these threads aren't looking for a way forward and aren't open to having real dialogue or working together toward solutions. The keyboard warriors of OT just come here to get their jollies from expressing and projecting their deep-seated feelings of inadequacy and lashing out at others as a coping mechanism. It's a vicious cycle of attacking others to help build themselves up and reinforce the image they've created for themselves in their minds. To them, anything is better than having to look introspectively and acknowledge the demons within. I think the hall monitors here just let it go because they realize it's a form of therapy for some of these people that might otherwise off themselves if left alone with their own self-hatred. It doesn't matter if you come back in a week, a month, or a year from now it will be the same people saying the same shit using different words, memes, or accounts because they are stuck in a prison they built for themselves, while they unknowingly hold the only key.

You may have already transcended above this plane of egotism and self-loathing. All you can do now is hope they eventually get the help they need outside of the forums before it's too late.

[Horza]

face
book
a book of faces

Get the kids hooked on it so they grow up and teach their kids.

The war is not going on against our old folks, it's the young people they want to change.

You think they learned nothing from the 60s after they shut it down? Hah..
Why do you think politicians use words like Hope and Change. Or look directly at the camera when they talk.

Why do I think politicians look directly at the camera when they talk? Illuminati shit.

[Baler]

Horza you aren't very well versed in history. Politicians looking directly at the camera is a very old thing. It's psychological for the viewer to feel like they're being talked to directly. I'm not making this shit up.

When a person looks straight into the camera or the audience, it's basically the equivalent of making eye contact with the viewer.

[Gravydoo II]

The whole, point the knuckle, not the finger. One hand on podium, one in the air, eyes on the camera. "Im talking to YOU" Baler aint lying. They are trained monke. That and doing the hitler, waving the hands, stamping, slapping, Mussolini muggin n shit. They know what works they spent billions of dollars to learn how to fuck with us.

[Horza]

what the fuck was this word salad. :confused:

This is how I feel reading your posts :p

[Baler]

I deleted my post because I re-read what gravydoo said and understood it.

Gravydoo seems to understand what I was getting at.

[Gravydoo II]

I understand completely. Any coincidence a TV star and movie star have been elected to presidency based FULLY on their camera performances?

[Gustoo]

Meanwhile, facebook wants to make a instagram for children.

I agree and want this "utopia" type thing to happen but if we don't heavily drag zuck, google, twitch etc etc then this is not going to end any time soon. Right just blames left for zuck etc while they themselves use these social medias like fiends..

When even basic hypocrisy cannot be seen you can't think these people have brain power of any sort worth fighting for.. They have no empathy, they are heavily drugged lunatics.

Don't give it to your kids.

Your kids can pull the others up who had parents that didn't think as clearly as you. Sorry that may be their role as leaders of the next generation.

We can collectively agree that social media is poison (which it is) and we can dismantle it and continue to demand that policies be made to change it.

But regardless of your stance on policies on this or other topics, love your neighbor. There will be no utopia because you're still going to be dealing with people full of problems. But we can make it better.

Look at the way you just described some fellow human beings in your last paragraph. Think about what that means. Think about what that looks like when someone else is saying the same thing about you. It gets us no where. They may be lacking empathy and so many other things, but what are we going to do about it. Every shit life is worth fighting for, or none are. Every person hunching over a shopping cart sunburnt looking like they are 80 years old (at age 35) from sun exposure going to die of kidney failure some cold night next to a convenience store, every single one of these adults was born as some mother or some fathers precious perfect baby, or might have been. Or they could have been the precious perfect baby of some adopted family. Or they could have been killed before they were born.

We need to give up on "give them what they deserve" this is all culture poison that we got from the "war on drugs" when the for profit prison industry like 1500X'ed in size in our country and crime did not decrease and safety and quality of life did not increase. We literally send people in to places we know they are raped and guaranteed to never recover or be rehabilitated at all. It would be more humane to have firing squads but for some reason we've been convinced that prisons are just a thing we all have to deal with.

So lets choose to care about each other. Lets choose to care about children even the children of known scum whatever that means. People don't choose to be homeless and they don't choose to be addicted to drugs and they don't choose to be poor. They get there somehow. They don't want to be there but their brain is trashed and they can no longer make good decisions.

Personal responsibility is real, and compassion is also real. I am personally responsible to make use of the gifts that I have. What am I supposed to do with the non drug addicted brain stuck in my skull? Use it to pile up wealth for myself so that when I die my (neglected because of my focus on wealth collection) kids can squander it or remain wealthy while being complete slimeballs? What is the point. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more." This is the classic reminder you can give to your Christian neighbors as they scowl at the human filth polluting their streets wondering why they don't just chose to be smart and successful like they are.

Think about what everyone produces in their life, and what they get for it. My most wealthy friends and acquaintances work just as hard and are as just as miserable as the middle class guys that I know. It takes a lot of time and effort to manage significant wealth and the stakes are higher. Everyone ends up with their face on the grindstone feeling miserable and heaven forbid we have time to care about anyone around us. We all produce a lot of shit for no reason and then die and take none of it anywhere. I'm not going to try to tell you what the point is. Our culture makes it seem great to wear the best clothes and go to costly restaurants but the level of joy is no greater than the level of joy a walmart greeter has on BBQ sunday with his walmart greeter neighbor.

Way off topic but since its basically a RnF thread I'm just going to let it go.

P.S. the social media thing is just another example of being sold down the river. The folks in charge can't be relied on to care about well being. They are collecting paychecks with their face to the millstone like the rest of us, making side deals as is required of their station and trying not to lose their job.

[Gravydoo II]

Maciste was the first dude politicians copied. Since silent movies were pretty new, seeing someone on a screen was a big fucking deal. They had to figure out how to use that time best because they couldnt just get on TV 3 nights a week. People had to physically distribute these reels of film and show them to the population. So first they use the maciste shit, like mussolini and hitler. Once fascism became not cool the tone was downed and it was more like a news caster type, im talking to you and your living room, type behavior. A set of mannerisms were developed for politicians to follow while on camera to be effective.

[Shawk]

face
book
a book of faces

Get the kids hooked on it so they grow up and teach their kids.

The war is not going on against our old folks, it's the young people they want to change.

You think they learned nothing from the 60s after they shut it down? Hah..
Why do you think politicians use words like Hope and Change. Or look directly at the camera when they talk.

I think I agree but old folks are influencing the only people that will listen anymore which tend to be the "zoomer" generation right now. As they are young and dumb. They only thing boomers need to be telling zoomers is to reproduce like rabbits..

Media trying to influence the boom against the zoom like propaganda has for ever..

https://i.imgur.com/3FtQeGT.png

When it reaches the end of that little diamond it will turn into a beautiful rainbow!!!