Should they remove the estate tax or the death tax?

[Baler]

I'm curious how my fellow forumquesters feel about this.

[beargryllz]

Triple both so we can watch Elon and the other 3 social media billionaires seethe

[Pulgasari]

100% inheritance tax, you little scamp.

equality of opportunity!

[Pulgasari]

100% inheritance tax, you little scamp.

equality of opportunity!

Now that OP is banned I can admit this is pretty close to graverobbing :o

[Jibartik]

The inheritance tax is a crime. A crime people allow because they hate chad.

The only people it hurts are poor people because rich people don't GAF about it because chad figure's out ways around it. Like buying all the houses so you cant afford them and then transferring ownership to holding companies and you're like "guess ill sell my family home because I cant pay for this"

Sugar taxes

smoking taxes

sales taxes

all this stuff is a flat tax on the poor.

We live in a reganmerica disguised as a hopeful socialist utopia.

[loramin]

100% inheritance tax, you little scamp.

equality of opportunity!

In theory I support this, but in practice it's all but impossible to implement. If you set a 100% inheritance tax, the rich will just give all their wealth away before they die (at whatever the, much lower, income tax rate is for the recipients).

Plus, as much as it sounds great to say "let everyone start equal", it's just not the reality of the world. Human beings want to provide a better life for their children, and trying to completely prevent that is fighting against human nature.

We're never going to eliminate the rich (in our lifetimes at least), nor will we eliminate them making their children rich. But we can set much higher income and innheritance tax rates than we currently have, and that would be better for society.

Now that OP is banned I can admit this is pretty close to graverobbing :o

He's not banned, he's just messing with you.

The inheritance tax is a crime. A crime people allow because they hate chad.

The only people it hurts are poor people because rich people don't GAF about it because chad figure's out ways around it. Like buying all the houses so you cant afford them and then transferring ownership to holding companies and you're like "guess ill sell my family home because I cant pay for this"

Sugar taxes

smoking taxes

sales taxes

all this stuff is a flat tax on the poor.

We live in a reganmerica disguised as a hopeful socialist utopia.

In Jib's world all taxes are bad and only hurt poor people ;)

(Although for the record, I agree with you that most of those are taxes on the poor ... just not inheritance tax. Almost by definition, the poor have nothing to inherit: they have debt.)

[Jibartik]

The poor own homes dude, just not in your state.

Im sure if I talked to you in real life youd be like, wow I never thought about it that way.

The inheritance tax is annoying for less than 1% of america, and for 99% of america it is soul crushing. It means they have to sell their family home their parents didnt go on vacation before they died to keep for their children.

The inheritance tax just encourages more reverse mortgages for the poor, and a bigger burden on their children who are proudly struggling with debt already.

In the end, who wins with inheritance tax? The banks.

Its a tax on the poor to feed the banks.

[Pulgasari]

He's not banned, he's just messing with you.


BALER IS A RASCAL :mad:

[Jibartik]

Taxes that message well are the bane of our existance.

It's like, sugar tax sounds great, but in actuality it just taxes the poor. The onlything you can say to defend it is "fuck the poor let them pay for their fat addictions!" (party flippage)

Same with smoking etc, "fuck em! if they want to die then make em pay, it's better for them anyway!" (more party flippage)

No actual game theory going on, how do people behave, why do the poor eat sugar? why do they smoke? Not realizing, it's because theyre poor so they spend what little the have on that shit because they cant afford to spend a night out at the bar after work like the people who vote for these things do.

Science doesnt come up with these taxes politicians (then people who believe the messaging link 1 study (they think is science and not a lobbyist payed for study) saying the politician designed policy has no effect on negative things we see that pop up in our community)

So the poor gets hit with penny taxes, and they just take cuts out of the parts of their lives they took cuts out of to pay for those small things we're nickle and diming them on in the first place. More cuts from their kids healthy diet, so they can give them a sugary treat after school etc. More cuts from their kids healthy diets, so they can buy the pack of cigs they already dont care will kill them.

Prop47 is another example, its messaging is to not punish people harshly for small crimes, but what it's really for is to reduce the money the state spends on prisons, who cares how it affects the poor. (I cant help you if you honestly dont think a reduction in penalizing these crimes doesnt result in an uptick of those crimes, but that's again tht's the power of messaging!)

The inheritance tax is the same thing, the messaging is that you are screwing over elon musk, and bill gates, but the rich get around it by buying everything with their companies or as separate companies, meanwhile the poor just hand over 50% of their families sacrifice and savings.

The worst thing to happen IMO to ourselves is that we allow "the hope of good" to explain "why we have taxes"

Taxes are used to pay people, and people like to get payed, so if their job is worthless, theyre going to message that it's of high value.

Taxes are too high, we spend 60% of them on baby killing and the other 39% we give to the banks and we hand over 1% to the poor.

Raising taxes does not mean a better society.

[Botten]

In many cases this is the only time the rich who are avoiding paying their taxes can be caught. The final resulting redistribution of the wealth is probably better for the nation where the social gap is getting larger and larger. Not a solution but the right solutions won't be passed in congress when dark money runs the show.

[Lune]

The inheritance tax is a crime. A crime people allow because they hate chad.

The only people it hurts are poor people because rich people don't GAF about it because chad figure's out ways around it. Like buying all the houses so you cant afford them and then transferring ownership to holding companies and you're like "guess ill sell my family home because I cant pay for this"

Sugar taxes

smoking taxes

sales taxes

all this stuff is a flat tax on the poor.

We live in a reganmerica disguised as a hopeful socialist utopia.

Poor people don't get the inheritance tax. It kicks in at like 1.5 million or something.

[Byue]

The inheritance tax is a crime. A crime people allow because they hate chad.

The only people it hurts are poor people because rich people don't GAF about it because chad figure's out ways around it. Like buying all the houses so you cant afford them and then transferring ownership to holding companies and you're like "guess ill sell my family home because I cant pay for this"

Sugar taxes

smoking taxes

sales taxes

all this stuff is a flat tax on the poor.

We live in a reganmerica disguised as a hopeful socialist utopia.


this is simplistic but at least you get the idea that your shit hole county is a nightmare and know that Regean, which is widely considered to be a great republican president, is a total loser and bullshiter and his policies, much like the right wing policies, not fondly remembered and source of chaos and trouble.

Also getting it that the poor are the most taxed people in this country.
Also understand that the poor subsidize the rich.

Now, try to understand that globally.
You're on the way!

[Jibartik]

The final resulting redistribution of the wealth is probably better for the nation where the social gap is getting larger and larger.

This is exactly my point about messaging, the idea behind the tax is that we're fixing the gap between the rich and the poor. But what we're really doing is setting banks up to eat homes for pennies on the dollar. (Increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor)

In reality higher taxes dont make people better people, if they did we'd all be living under a king right now.

[Toxigen]

never gonna happen but The Fair Tax is where its at

https://i.imgur.com/AR6bEYy.jpg

[Jibartik]

Poor people don't get the inheritance tax. It kicks in at like 1.5 million or something.

I dont refer to poor people as homeless.

I refer to them as with a mortgage they're struggling to but successfully paying off.

In your own state, that would be at least 1.5 mil right there.

If we have an inheritance tax where the (middle class if you define home owners as them) pays for the poor (homeless) by giving their homes to the banks (the rich) so they can sell them for pennies on the dollar (to get richer at the expense of the now homeless middle class).

The messaging is its only for the millionaires! but in reality its for anyone who has a payed off or almost payed off a mortgage in 2020 at the expense of spending that money on themselves, and the bank gets the home.

[Pulgasari]

This is exactly my point about messaging, the idea behind the tax is that we're fixing the gap between the rich and the poor. But what we're really doing is setting banks up to eat homes for pennies on the dollar. (Increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor)

In reality higher taxes dont make people better people, if they did we'd all be living under a king right now.

OK but how do you square that yammering with the facts?

Poor people don't get the inheritance tax. It kicks in at like 1.5 million or something.

[Gustoo]

Uhh

Tax policy is really simple

The bullshit you see is just to see if you will sign up to bamboozle yourself.

Rich people don't pay bullshit taxes like this. As others have stated.

Its easy to make tax policy fair and generate more revenue for the government, it would put 80,000 of the 83,000 IRS employees out of the job and 100,000 HR block employees out of the job. These are useless garbage jobs about memorizing forms and loopholes for tax policy. A joke game that costs everyone in the country valuable time and money for non productive work.

However, there is one core benefit to a befuddled pile of shit tax system that we have, and that benefit is Government control. The government wishes to control the actions of businesses and individuals by forcing various types of taxes on us. The increasing number of these dumbass taxes and their complex relations to eachother is why we have 160,000 people doing meaningless work in 2 organizations alone.

The problem? Super solvable
The will? Probably not there.

Corporate income tax comes right off the gross revenue line. Can't hide things in cost of goods sold because any of those goods would also have corresponding tax associated with them (I bought 10,000 sheets of wood that year) so then the wood vendor would have paid 10,000 sheets of wood worth of tax, so the government gets the same amount anyways.

Its easy, its fair, and it would mean corporations would actually have to pay taxes.

The benefit for the corporation is that they could get rid of some tax accountants.


All the out of work IRS and HR block people could find jobs as accountants for all the new companies that start up under this new much less combersome tax policy, that the government can fund with 50% of its new tax revenue through a "New business support program" which is a government run subsidized new business loan and support program designed to make our country actually good, robust, profitable, strong, flexible and healthy instead of cucking all citizens to uber-corps.


Home policy is easy. Corporations can't own homes. They aren't commercial properties, they are residential. Fuck you.

Individuals can own two homes, the third home pays a heavy "special property" tax which makes it still possible, but not a simple "Ya i might as well have 200 homes its good investment for me" and the loan application is not a regular home loan.

Problem solved. 1.3 million realtors pissed off due to decrease in prices but they will have a lot of new home sales.

Home loans given to anyone who can demonstrate ability to pay mortgage based on existing rent payment + property taxes + reasonable estimate of repairs. No credit needed, only proof of income. There is no risk to bank because the home is collateral. So fuck you zero risk bank loans going to 4th home owners.

Rental demand will plummet so the "service" that these multi home owners are providing will no longer be needed.

Sorry not running in 2024 but maybe 2028

[Byue]

This is exactly my point about messaging, the idea behind the tax is that we're fixing the gap between the rich and the poor. But what we're really doing is setting banks up to eat homes for pennies on the dollar. (Increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor)

In reality higher taxes dont make people better people, if they did we'd all be living under a king right now.

Well, the solution to your financial problem is not to have more money, it's to make better decision in your past. (both true and very stupid)

A hundred years ago, they laughed at Karl Marx because he thought that given enough time, wealth would concentrate within the hands of a very few powerful elite.

Now, even a staunch republicans try to grapple with his nascent fascist tendencies and right leaning ideologies and try to reconcile this with this knowledge that the world is not very fair.

I'm sorry you don't understand basic economics.


You are right though.
Let's cut all taxes since it taxes the poor more.
Cut that shit off. End it.

Will be so much better off after that, right?

Like it's weird because you're too retarded to know that your stupid fucking ideas have been tried before.

This is why I say get an education.


Or whatever.
Maybe we could try not having countries and just giving the super rich complete power.

[Jibartik]

OK but how do you square that yammering with the facts?

just did, thats the messaging, not the facts :o

[Byue]

Uhh

Tax policy is really simple

The bullshit you see is just to see if you will sign up to bamboozle yourself.

Rich people don't pay bullshit taxes like this. As others have stated.

Its easy to make tax policy fair and generate more revenue for the government, it would put 80,000 of the 83,000 IRS employees out of the job and 100,000 HR block employees out of the job. These are useless garbage jobs about memorizing forms and loopholes for tax policy. A joke game that costs everyone in the country valuable time and money for non productive work.

However, there is one core benefit to a befuddled pile of shit tax system that we have, and that benefit is Government control. The government wishes to control the actions of businesses and individuals by forcing various types of taxes on us. The increasing number of these dumbass taxes and their complex relations to eachother is why we have 160,000 people doing meaningless work in 2 organizations alone.

The problem? Super solvable
The will? Probably not there.

Corporate income tax comes right off the gross revenue line. Can't hide things in cost of goods sold because any of those goods would also have corresponding tax associated with them (I bought 10,000 sheets of wood that year) so then the wood vendor would have paid 10,000 sheets of wood worth of tax, so the government gets the same amount anyways.

Its easy, its fair, and it would mean corporations would actually have to pay taxes.

The benefit for the corporation is that they could get rid of some tax accountants.


All the out of work IRS and HR block people could find jobs as accountants for all the new companies that start up under this new much less combersome tax policy, that the government can fund with 50% of its new tax revenue through a "New business support program" which is a government run subsidized new business loan and support program designed to make our country actually good, robust, profitable, strong, flexible and healthy instead of cucking all citizens to uber-corps.


Home policy is easy. Corporations can't own homes. They aren't commercial properties, they are residential. Fuck you.

Individuals can own two homes, the third home pays a heavy "special property" tax which makes it still possible, but not a simple "Ya i might as well have 200 homes its good investment for me" and the loan application is not a regular home loan.

Problem solved. 1.3 million realtors pissed off due to decrease in prices but they will have a lot of new home sales.

Home loans given to anyone who can demonstrate ability to pay mortgage based on existing rent payment + property taxes + reasonable estimate of repairs. No credit needed, only proof of income. There is no risk to bank because the home is collateral. So fuck you zero risk bank loans going to 4th home owners.

Rental demand will plummet so the "service" that these multi home owners are providing will no longer be needed.

Sorry not running in 2024 but maybe 2028



You guys are radical leftists.
Soon to discover you are antifa.

[Baler]

He's not banned, he's just messing with you.
I appreciate everything you do for this community Loramin! Your hard work on the wiki has been fruitful for many new and returning players! Thank You

BALER IS A RASCAL :mad:

Thank you for being a friend, travel down the road and back again.

[Byue]

soon those self professed right wingers who hate dirty socialist liberals cucks will band together, all chip in 5$ to defeat socialism and make capitalism better by implementing left wing idea until the complete abolition of the system you already see as inherently evil.


YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH!

[loramin]

Let's review, shall we?

The inheritance tax is a crime. A crime people allow because they hate chad.

The only people it hurts are poor people

The poor own homes dude, just not in your state.

...
Its a tax on the poor to feed the banks.

I dont refer to poor people as homeless.

I refer to them as with a mortgage they're struggling to but successfully paying off.

In your own state, that would be at least 1.5 mil right there.


So just to be clear, in the span of like three forum pages, you've gone from declaring the inheritance tax to be something that "only hurts poor people" to something that affects "poor people who own homes" ... ie. the minority of all poor people, because only 39% of low-income households own the home they live in ... to "poor people" with 1.5 million dollars of net worth for their descendents to inherit!

That's quite a broad definition of poverty ;)

[Horza]

Jib would never deceive people in order to promote a conservative political agenda :p

[Byue]

I don't like naps naps should be illegal.

naps free USA!

[Jibartik]

Let's review, shall we?
So just to be clear, in the span of like three forum pages, you've gone from declaring the inheritance tax to be something that "only hurts poor people" to something that affects "poor people who own homes" ... ie. the minority of all poor people, because only 39% of low-income households own the home they live in ... to "poor people" with 1.5 million dollars of net worth for their descendents to inherit!

That's quite a broad definition of poverty ;)

Bro, there is more to American than the top 1% and the bottom.. theres in fact 98% of Americans.

Yes, I define any struggling american with a mortage, to be a poor, if you have two mortages then you're fine.

But poor does not only mean "you're staying in someone's basement out of charity"

that's poverty.

[starkind]

Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

[Jibartik]

Jib would never deceive people in order to promote a conservative political agenda :p

prop 47 is for neighborhood safety!

DITTO for the other side!

maybe somewhere in-between no taxes, and not arresting people from crime is the right idea?

*pithy comment about both sides :o

Edit: the inheritance tax benefits nobody but the banks.

edit edit: Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

that's the CCP lol

[Horza]

prop 47 is for neighborhood safety!

DITTO for the other side!

maybe somewhere in-between no taxes, and not arresting people from crime is the right idea?

*pithy comment about both sides :o

Edit: the inheritance tax benefits nobody but the banks.

Lay off the Fox News, hombre.

[Jibartik]

Lay off the Fox News, hombre.

Lay off john oliver news, hombre.

[starkind]

that's the CCP lol

I'm gay for Gilead.

[Sonderbeast]

I think it's a great idea, tax the rich!

I guarantee no one wasting their time on this forum or even family or friends thrice removed will suffer this tax.

SORRY YOUR POOR!

[Byue]

Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

Usury was illegal for most of humanity history because our elder understood the basic principle that if I lend you a gold piece, and you need to give me two back, you will necessarily have to take it from someone else, just to give back and thus, there was incentive to prevent you from repaying.

They also implemented a vey heavy tax on what you currently owned but the trick was to share a lot of your wealth to not be taxed.
So poor and rich could mingle without much animosity.

Because as Plato wisely observed, if you protect private property, you protect those who have against those who don't. Thus the best defense against envy, is to share the wealth.

But these dudes were dumb.
And so am I.

[Jimjam]

Just soft cap total personal wealth at 1,000,000 fun points. And get rid of insurance and other scams and usury.

Each inheritor can get 1 mil untaxed. Everything left over after that goes to creditors (debts otherwise not inherited). 100% of the worth after the millions are inherited and debts paid off, gets taxed 100%.

This is my really badly thought out system I just came up with now.

[imperiouskitten]

lol no. rollover permanent wealth is obviously shit and reduces social mobility, creates Nicholas IIs and generally creates misery and humiliates everyone involved by allowing yellow-bellies, effeminates, & the false-hearted too much authority.


https://i.imgur.com/QuhBy4C.png

Gape for Tsar Nickie little piggy, gape for someone who keeps a "court wizard" with a 14 inch dick on squad. You are the bottom of bottoms.

https://i.imgur.com/40BKL2K.png

Protect Nickie's inheritance, little Nickie will go mad if he can't pay his 6'6" itinerant magician. Protect Nickie's gay little heart, for how will he survive without his alphamasculine daddy's stuff to protect him from beyond the grave? he's such a sensitive boy.

I guess my point is, any amount over $10 mill that gets taxed is probably what your reprobate spawn will spend on male hookers anyway. You have to be extremely servile and base to pay much regard to this issue if you are not yourself quite wealthy. But hey, maybe if you're cute Nickie will have you over for an orgy at his palace anyway. Since your ass is already gaped out and you're an exhibitionist about your masochism & all

[Cecily]

Hey. Really good post. I was reading about the ethics of exposing your kinks to the public earlier and the person made a good point where you're involving bystanders without their consent, so I think you should stop posting about makeup, crossdressing, and getting railed by your room mate. Have a good one. Happy Pride~!

[Gustoo]

The point is that for a person in the over 10 million dollar range, they can manage there way around these kinds of stupid taxes. They are taxes that are put in place so politicians have talkoing points "I implemented a tax on the wealthiest 2% of americans that HAVE TOO MUCH WEALTH!"

But in reality its quite easy to dodge these silly taxes so stop wasting our time talking about them if you have no interest in solutions.

[Gustoo]

You guys are radical leftists.
Soon to discover you are antifa.

can't tell if serious

isn't anti fa anti fascist? I don't support fascists, when I can help it.

[imperiouskitten]

Hey. Really good post. I was reading about the ethics of exposing your kinks to the public earlier and the person made a good point where you're involving bystanders without their consent, so I think you should stop posting about makeup, crossdressing, and getting railed by your room mate. Have a good one. Happy Pride~!

Yeah, and you are "trans" but don't take meds and you think it's humiliating to have sex with a guy or something? And stalk girls you "dislike" and also lust after girls all the time? But you're still a girl, even tho you decline treatment to become hormonally a girl. That's creepy, repressed psycho behavior and not really the life of the party either btw. Offputting and hard to relate to for most people, unlike normie stuff like dating and having a bf/gf etc. I think your frame of reference is getting pretty weird as you progress thru your 40s nursing an obsession with me and without addressing any of your issues, Cecily.

I can't seem to come up with much of a comic clapback because your pride at being completely alone and lonely and frightened to have sex into your 40s is really depressing and sad. I hope you find that revelation you need.

Anyway, I'm glad you liked the post. I only learned yesterday that Rasputin was Nickie's male prostitute. It's pretty hilarious how much spooky lore is invested into him by ppl who are unable to do subtext when he's obviously there because of his giant dick (which can still be seen jarred) and the fact that Nicholas II was a flaming, open qu33r.

[Cecily]

In all seriously with regards to the estate tax, don't you think that "my husband gave me a really good orgasm night" is pushing far past the limits of good taste even when the bar is set so low here?

[imperiouskitten]

In all seriously with regards to the estate tax, don't you think that "my husband gave me a really good orgasm night" is pushing far past the limits of good taste even when the bar is set so low here?

What I think is that you're obsessed and my trolly shitposting gets you really mad :) You're trying this angle again for like the 20th time tho so it's pretty boring anyway.

But I am trying to take some enjoyment from the fact that my pronouncements of joy over profound sexual experiences are clattering around unhappily in buffalo bill's head. just don't get me into ur damn pit, i dont need ur lotion.

[Cecily]

https://i.imgur.com/UAnHwxL.jpg

[imperiouskitten]

I don't think he understands that he is a right winger yet

[Cecily]

Kinda have to be. I might inherit property in TN someday and ugh. Those values along with that accent make my skin crawl.

[starkind]

Well, I honestly don't have a clue how to properly manage this world through taxation.

I reckon whatever anyone does will be constantly attacked or eroded or put to the test and undone.

But I'll be dead soon hence my idiot remarks. And flippancy.

[Bardp1999]

I honestly want to buy that Buffalo Bill poster

[HalflingSpergand]

Fwiw when u brag about enjoyin ur ass rape sessions on eq forum it comes off as really fake and desperate


Thought you left forum forever anyways

[Jibartik]

But I'll be dead soon

https://i.imgur.com/dkBm9gg.gif

https://i.imgur.com/nVWjAfQ.gif

[Gwaihir]

Usury was illegal for most of humanity history because our elder understood the basic principle that if I lend you a gold piece, and you need to give me two back, you will necessarily have to take it from someone else, just to give back and thus, there was incentive to prevent you from repaying.

They also implemented a vey heavy tax on what you currently owned but the trick was to share a lot of your wealth to not be taxed.
So poor and rich could mingle without much animosity.

Because as Plato wisely observed, if you protect private property, you protect those who have against those who don't. Thus the best defense against envy, is to share the wealth.

But these dudes were dumb.
And so am I.
When a Jew isn't allowed to charge interest in a usurious manner, they consider that slavery. It's literally another shoah.

Plato was a Eugenecist, by the way.
“Weak parents should not procreate. Because their children would inherit their inferior qualities, they would have no strength to lead a meaningful life, or in any way contribute to the state.”

Not exactly a paragon of virtue, nor enlightened

[Nexii]

There's no estate or death taxes in Canada

[zodium]

there will be no need for an inheritance tax once we abolish capitalism. move to resolved.

[Toxigen]

there will be no need for an inheritance tax once we abolish capitalism. move to resolved.

the eternal yearning to seize the means of production

too bad communism has never worked

imagine spending your life absorbed in a purely academic ideal that has zero history of success

[Byue]

There's no estate or death taxes in Canada

True but also not, true. It's the same in every country, whether we call it an estate law or not.

When a Jew isn't allowed to charge interest in a usurious manner, they consider that slavery. It's literally another shoah.

Plato was a Eugenecist, by the way.
“Weak parents should not procreate. Because their children would inherit their inferior qualities, they would have no strength to lead a meaningful life, or in any way contribute to the state.”

Not exactly a paragon of virtue, nor enlightened

I mean, if we dig long enough, even you will shit a gem so I guess good people also say bad things or is that everyone but orange clown?

Bro. Jesus would be in font of you he would still snap sometimes and you would use it as a proof it ain't jesus because your logic is flawed af.

the eternal yearning to seize the means of production

too bad communism has never worked

imagine spending your life absorbed in a purely academic ideal that has zero history of success

Can you imagine mountain of garbage. people scared a pandemic could ruin their financial lives, 19 dudes owning as much as 4 billion other people is such a good system it gets defended online by people.

Aren't you the guy not trusting "big pharma" (and other big companies) because when you have that much cash, you can obfuscate the truth?

So, big pharm is like, too greedy and nefarious because rich but being rich still the ultimate goal of capitalism.

Got it.

[zodium]

the eternal yearning to seize the means of production

too bad communism has never worked

imagine spending your life absorbed in a purely academic ideal that has zero history of success

marxism is a word for the set of ideas human beings who live under capitalism inexorably have when they encounter its fairly self-evident problems and contradictions. that's why we call it the immortal science. :o

[Lune]

We are a generation of inheritors. Boomers have that much fucking wealth. Most people whose relatives don't see a clean death will see it stolen by nursing facilities and hospitals near the end. The roller coaster tips upside down and shakes at the end, emptying your pockets of change on the way out

lol no. rollover permanent wealth is obviously shit and reduces social mobility, creates Nicholas IIs and generally creates misery and humiliates everyone involved by allowing yellow-bellies, effeminates, & the false-hearted too much authority.


https://i.imgur.com/QuhBy4C.png

Gape for Tsar Nickie little piggy, gape for someone who keeps a "court wizard" with a 14 inch dick on squad. You are the bottom of bottoms.

https://i.imgur.com/40BKL2K.png

Protect Nickie's inheritance, little Nickie will go mad if he can't pay his 6'6" itinerant magician. Protect Nickie's gay little heart, for how will he survive without his alphamasculine daddy's stuff to protect him from beyond the grave? he's such a sensitive boy.

I guess my point is, any amount over $10 mill that gets taxed is probably what your reprobate spawn will spend on male hookers anyway. You have to be extremely servile and base to pay much regard to this issue if you are not yourself quite wealthy. But hey, maybe if you're cute Nickie will have you over for an orgy at his palace anyway. Since your ass is already gaped out and you're an exhibitionist about your masochism & all

I feel like this is a slight against me but also hilarious and educational

[Jibartik]

We created a system where everyone could be the king of their own kingdom. And what did the kings do? Squandered the wealth and left their people to fend for themselves.

(lol)

[zodium]

everyone hates capitalism, but they don't know they hate capitalism, so they complain about individual problems like they're unconnected phenomena with no underlying cause.

[Lune]

everyone hates capitalism, but they don't know they hate capitalism, so they complain about individual problems like they're unconnected phenomena with no underlying cause.

Capitalism is great when it is founded upon a good system of cultural values & principles. Unfortunately the US has never quite gotten it right. Close, but not quite, and it has only gotten worse over the last 80 years or so. Our individualism makes it too shitty.

For people who have it right, see: Any other wealthy European country.

[icedwards]

The estate tax in the US doesn't even kick in until assets exceed $11.7 million, not a single one of you nerds will ever inherit or leave that much to be inherited.

[Gatordash]

everyone hates capitalism, but they don't know they hate capitalism, so they complain about individual problems like they're unconnected phenomena with no underlying cause.

Perhaps the cause is that you're not smart enough, productive enough, or original enough to take advantage of capitalism. Maybe if people stopped complaining and started doing, they would be rewarded by system. Its a lot easier to complain though so I get it.

[Pulgasari]

The estate tax in the US doesn't even kick in until assets exceed $11.7 million, not a single one of you nerds will ever inherit or leave that much to be inherited.

im gonna rob graves

[Jibartik]

See, be creative, think outside of the box(by digging up and cutting into one), and work for it, and anyone can make money easily as a capitalist!

[Patriam1066]

The estate tax in the US doesn't even kick in until assets exceed $11.7 million, not a single one of you nerds will ever inherit or leave that much to be inherited.

Two people married making $60k each saving 40 years in index funds would have more than that

I am worth several multiples of that and am a brown immigrant engineer from Islamistan

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/XZdxQjW.png

[icedwards]

Two people married making $60k each saving 40 years in index funds would have more than that

I am worth several multiples of that and am a brown immigrant engineer from Islamistan

I work in wealth management and previously was a tax accountant for a mid-size public accounting firm. Saying something incredibly dumb like "Two people married making $60k each saving 40 years in index funds would have more than that" makes me think you're lying about "I am worth several multiples of that".

[Jibartik]

I like to imagine you're a dog wearing sunglasses turning to the camera like jim and saying that.

[Lune]

I like to imagine you're a dog wearing sunglasses turning to the camera like jim and saying that.

lol

[Gatordash]

I work in wealth management and previously was a tax accountant for a mid-size public accounting firm. Saying something incredibly dumb like "Two people married making $60k each saving 40 years in index funds would have more than that" makes me think you're lying about "I am worth several multiples of that".

Its closer to 7-8 million but add in other assets like homes and the way inflation is going you'd get close. I think a lot more people are affected by estate taxes than you are giving credit for.

[icedwards]

I like to imagine you're a dog wearing sunglasses turning to the camera like jim and saying that.

Also true

[icedwards]

Its closer to 7-8 million but add in other assets like homes and the way inflation is going you'd get close. I think a lot more people are affected by estate taxes than you are giving credit for.

Alright.

$120,000 a year in income taxed at let's say 35% with a conservative $45,000 of expenses a year leaves $33,000 to be invested a year. Compounded at 5% annually, that's a NFA value at year 40 of $3.98 million.

Where are you pulling your numbers out of your ass?

[Jibartik]

Alright.

$120,000 a year in income taxed at let's say 35% with a conservative $45,000 of expenses a year leaves $33,000 to be invested a year. Compounded at 5% annually, that's a NFA value at year 40 of $3.98 million.

Where are you pulling your numbers out of your ass?

Your cowboy account you put 5k into ETH with and forgot about :o

[Gatordash]

Alright.

$120,000 a year in income taxed at let's say 35% with a conservative $45,000 of expenses a year leaves $33,000 to be invested a year. Compounded at 5% annually, that's a NFA value at year 40 of $3.98 million.

Where are you pulling your numbers out of your ass?

Each spouse contributes 1150/mo at 8%. He said index funds and the S&P returns almost 10%. Over 40 years you'll be closer to 10 than 5.

[zodium]

Perhaps the cause is that you're not smart enough, productive enough, or original enough to take advantage of capitalism. Maybe if people stopped complaining and started doing, they would be rewarded by system. Its a lot easier to complain though so I get it.

thanks for the surplus value, sucker.

[icedwards]

Each spouse contributes 1150/mo at 8%. He said index funds and the S&P returns almost 10%. Over 40 years you'll be closer to 10 than 5.

$7.15 million with your numbers ($27,600 invested annually, 8% return). The historical average annual return for the S&P500 is 7%, so let's not pretend that last years gains are sustainable over a 40 year time frame.

Back to my original point, none of y'all will ever be effected by the estate tax.

(edit: $5.51 million NFA at 7% annual return FYI)

[Gatordash]

thanks for the surplus value, sucker.

You're welcome :)

A thank you is more than I usually get

[Gatordash]

$7.15 million with your numbers ($27,600 invested annually, 8% return). The historical average annual return for the S&P500 is 7%, so let's not pretend that last years gains are sustainable over a 40 year time frame.

Back to my original point, none of y'all will ever be effected by the estate tax.

(edit: $5.51 million NFA at 7% annual return FYI)

Google has it at 8% thru 2018 so it doesn't include the past year. But if this hypothetical situation were to start today then yeah they probably would make fuck all for the next decade with Trump/Biden trying to pass it along to the next. Also I need help in wealth management so let me know if you have any recommendations in Las Vegas.

[zodium]

You're welcome :)

A thank you is more than I usually get

*eyes widening at the hollow husk of a man* you poor thing. im so sorry for what my ppl have done to your ppl. i will avenge u.

[Patriam1066]

$19500x2 into your 401ks per annum compounding at 11% the past 100 years and it also reduces your taxable income

If you don’t max your 401k you deserve the wood chipper and can’t be helped anyway

[Patriam1066]

You should be driving the biggest piece of shit car that gets you point A to point B reliably, you should be married, your kids should have jobs by age 12, you should have no tattoos, your wife should have no lip filler. You should be BMI 25 or under, your diet should consist mostly of vegetables and finally, you should attend church biweekly

Anything less and I won’t be seeing you in Valhalla. Capitalism works fine, you guys are the ones who don’t work

[zodium]

you guys are the ones who don’t work

that's right. thanks for the surplus value, rube.

[Horza]

I think a lot more people are affected by estate taxes than you are giving credit for.

I wonder why it is you think that.

[Jibartik]

Because most people dont deal with it until they are in their late 40s or 50s and by then they stopped bitching online about things.

[Horza]

Most people don't have more than 11 million dollars in assets.

[Jibartik]

Who's talking about most people having 11 million dollars?

[Gatordash]

Because most people dont deal with it until they are in their late 40s or 50s and by then they stopped bitching online about things.

How dare you, I'll never stop bitching online.

[Jibartik]

Oh, we're not people here.

edit: This is what your taxes pay for, LeTS HAVeMOrE TaXEs It'S GOoD

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/18/marathon-petroleum-job-cuts-pandemic-benefits

:o :(

[Pulgasari]

Oh, we're not people here.

edit: This is what your taxes pay for, LeTS HAVeMOrE TaXEs It'S GOoD

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/18/marathon-petroleum-job-cuts-pandemic-benefits

:o :(

How many would they have laid off without the bailout?

I bet it's more!!

[Byue]

Oh, we're not people here.

edit: This is what your taxes pay for, LeTS HAVeMOrE TaXEs It'S GOoD

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/18/marathon-petroleum-job-cuts-pandemic-benefits

:o :(

LET'S NOT PROVIDE ANY SERVICES THEN.

[Gwaihir]

My Retail account is up 280.26% and my Roth is up 47.59% year to date

[Jibartik]

How many would they have laid off without the bailout?

I bet it's more!!

BURN BABY BURN! OIL MAN MAKE JOBS
-libs

*parties flipped :o

[imperiouskitten]

everyone hates capitalism, but they don't know they hate capitalism, so they complain about individual problems like they're unconnected phenomena with no underlying cause.

i hate old crusty psycho christian landladies who forcibly form a psychosexual connection with me by seeking all kinds of conflict and resolution to get boundary free emotional highs with me . worse than the death squads

[Byue]

i hate old crusty psycho christian landladies who forcibly form a psychosexual connection with me by seeking all kinds of conflict and resolution to get boundary free emotional highs with me . worse than the death squads

I mean, you live through one of those so it's obviously not as bad, but I get the sentiment.


I mean yesterday was bad but not like, june 6th 1944 bad.
Or like, whatever bad dates are out there.
It's also not as bad as like, being on a slave ship and not being white but I get the sentiment but I have a feeling that you are exaggerating.

[zodium]

i hate old crusty psycho christian landladies who forcibly form a psychosexual connection with me by seeking all kinds of conflict and resolution to get boundary free emotional highs with me . worse than the death squads

a savage but fair indictment of petit bourgeoisie consciousness.

[starkind]

If you think about it it's pretty socialist for the state to enforce some kind of property rights after ones death. Once your dead, you can no longer defend your property...

[zodium]

that's right. the state should step in and claim it for the common good and ensure it isn't seized by people who had nothing to do with it, such as your descendants, to block this capital accumulation vector.

[Blingy]

Can we add in capital gains from inheritance? When my grandparents died my mon got close to $100k so not even close to the $11M being tossed around here. So while she paid no death/estate tax she did fork out a massive amount in capital gains.

[HalflingSpergand]

https://i.imgur.com/onDkrlx.gif

You're not in control peons

[icedwards]

Can we add in capital gains from inheritance? When my grandparents died my mon got close to $100k so not even close to the $11M being tossed around here. So while she paid no death/estate tax she did fork out a massive amount in capital gains.

There is no capital gains on inherited cash/securities, with the exception of inherited IRA or 401k accounts (which haven't been taxed previously when held by the deceased). If your mom inherited $100k in securities or real estate that appreciated to $100k+X (between the time of death and sale), she would only pay capital gains on the $X amount.

That's the last of my free wealth management advice for you nerds.

[Blingy]

There is no capital gains on inherited cash/securities, with the exception of inherited IRA or 401k accounts (which haven't been taxed previously when held by the deceased). If your mom inherited $100k in securities or real estate that appreciated to $100k+X (between the time of death and sale), she would only pay capital gains on the $X amount.

That's the last of my free wealth management advice for you nerds.

So you're saying TurboTax fucked up? She inherited a piece of land that's in the middle of nowhere; not worth diddly to any type of developer. However the mineral rights are worth a fair amount. According to TT she needed to send in a big chunk of cash to cover capital gains.

TY for the heads up. I'll tell her to go bug either a CPA or tax attorney.

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/onDkrlx.gif

You're not in control peons

That's why we all get paid the big Soros bucks.

[Pulgasari]

So you're saying TurboTax fucked up? She inherited a piece of land that's in the middle of nowhere; not worth diddly to any type of developer. However the mineral rights are worth a fair amount. According to TT she needed to send in a big chunk of cash to cover capital gains.

TY for the heads up. I'll tell her to go bug either a CPA or tax attorney.

The IRS views the profits from the sale of mineral rights as a capital gain, not income.

I know nothing this is a paste.

[Gwaihir]

15063

[Pulgasari]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15063&thumb=1&d=1624215393

that dude rules

https://i.imgur.com/zrFQPRU.jpg

[Gwaihir]

Yep

[Lune]

lmao at traitor party trying to justify autocracy

"I think you're wrong so it's okay if I sequester your voice and your vote"

[Jibartik]

I dont buy into the only those that dont have bitch about things they want boomer vibe but other than that the guy makes some good points.

[Pulgasari]

I dont buy into the only those that dont have bitch about things they want boomer vibe but other than that the guy makes some good points.

Do u hate ur wickedness doe?

[Jibartik]

Do u hate ur wickedness doe?

oh for sure that is lit

[Shourty]

get rid of both of those taxes.

[Horza]

get rid of both of those taxes.

https://i.imgur.com/x3swTBT.jpg

[starkind]

I'd be OK if it only cost like $500 fine or tax to kill a person

especially if it was the inverse of their net worth, poor people cost more to kill while rich people are low bounty points (because they are boring and no one cares about them)

(moderate to slight /s)

[starkind]

that dude rules

https://i.imgur.com/zrFQPRU.jpg

I should detransition, get myself a red robe, and cross

[Jibartik]

Trust beneficiaries pay taxes on income that they receive from the trust, but not on returned principal. When trust beneficiaries receive distributions from the trust's principal balance, they do not have to pay taxes on the distribution

[imperiouskitten]

So you're saying TurboTax fucked up? She inherited a piece of land that's in the middle of nowhere; not worth diddly to any type of developer. However the mineral rights are worth a fair amount. According to TT she needed to send in a big chunk of cash to cover capital gains.

TY for the heads up. I'll tell her to go bug either a CPA or tax attorney.

bazinga lmao

[Gatordash]

https://i.imgur.com/x3swTBT.jpg

Take more money from working class people while stuffing the pockets of wall street and corporations. The Biden way.

[Horza]

Take more money from working class people while stuffing the pockets of wall street and corporations. The Biden way.

Working class people don't have more than 11 million dollars in assets, stupid.

[Gatordash]

Not with that attitude. Working people can get to double digits, but Biden will take it away while he lets corporations walk because they pay for his and his constituents in Congress political campaigns.

[Pulgasari]

Not with that attitude. Working people can get to double digits, but Biden will take it away while he lets corporations walk because they pay for his and his constituents in Congress political campaigns.

Nobody has paid tax on income earned under Biden yet lol

[Gatordash]

Nobody has paid tax on income earned under Biden yet lol

I have. My accountant upped my taxes to the 28%. I guess its easier to pay more and get a check back then to pay less and have to write a check at the end.

[Pulgasari]

I have. My accountant upped my taxes to the 28%. I guess its easier to pay more and get a check back then to pay less and have to write a check at the end.

Patriotic of you to loan money to Uncle Sam! :p

[Gatordash]

Patriotic of you to loan money to Uncle Sam! :p

Yeah I gotta talk to her about that :p

[Gwaihir]

Working class people don't have more than 11 million dollars in assets, stupid.

Who does?
15066
Who are you talking about?

[starkind]

Who does?
15066
Who are you talking about?
Why does every super gay manic egocentric philanthropist look exactly like that (age and grayness in the hair varies). But, like that general esthetic, and always male.?

P.s. I honestly think females cannot be tru philanthropists. Idk. They do get individual attachments, obsessions tho.

[Pulgasari]

HTU6iQ0Rcyw

[Gwaihir]

Why does every super gay manic egocentric philanthropist look exactly like that (age and grayness in the hair varies). But, like that general esthetic, and always male.?

P.s. I honestly think females cannot be tru philanthropists. Idk. They do get individual attachments, obsessions tho.
I guess it's just that "Rich white (but not white) male" look.

[imperiouskitten]

Why does every super gay manic egocentric philanthropist look exactly like that (age and grayness in the hair varies). But, like that general esthetic, and always male.?

P.s. I honestly think females cannot be tru philanthropists. Idk. They do get individual attachments, obsessions tho.

can confirm, looks more like pedo ex than i want to admit. this look is called " (((visionary))) "

[Horza]

Who does?
15066
Who are you talking about?

This is an improvement over outright Holocaust denialism. Thanks, galach.

[imperiouskitten]

that dude rules



you would hector him mid speech and spin sophistry to defend the indicted demons and nullify his effect on the audience. I'm pretty sure you actually revile this guy and aim to stunt him into silence, at least as soon as he's "near" enough to attract personal feelings and comparisons. Nothing attracts you to slide and cover like the confrontation of human abuse, so this take is pretty grating from you from my pov.

I assume that's the point of posting the above quote, to remind me about the recent incident where you sabotaged my finally calling out bigotry in my own defense. Your reply to him is, "you're not Jesus". That small little brown guy is stupid enough to look to you as a leader, so it's completely for naught. He'll learn nothing and we are driven apart further, now he's probably beyond my reach for good. No way dude, you do not think it rocks to confront and surmount one's demons. You do not believe it rocks for some sinner with a generous soul to venture energy into saving cannibals. As soon as the power relationships of the individuals involved intersect with your own, suddenly all soft talk is shrapnel and nails to you. Simply do not believe

[Pulgasari]

you would hector him mid speech and spin sophistry to defend the indicted demons and nullify his effect on the audience. I'm pretty sure you actually revile this guy and aim to stunt him into silence, at least as soon as he's "near" enough to attract personal feelings and comparisons. Nothing attracts you to slide and cover like the confrontation of human abuse, so this take is pretty grating from you from my pov.

I assume that's the point of posting the above quote, to remind me about the recent incident where you sabotaged my finally calling out bigotry in my own defense. Your reply to him is, "you're not Jesus". That small little brown guy is stupid enough to look to you as a leader, so it's completely for naught. He'll learn nothing and we are driven apart further, now he's probably beyond my reach for good. No way dude, you do not think it rocks to confront and surmount one's demons. You do not believe it rocks for some sinner with a generous soul to venture energy into saving cannibals. As soon as the power relationships of the individuals involved intersect with your own, suddenly all soft talk is shrapnel and nails to you. Simply do not believe

i liked the picture with words on it

there's no revenging in baseball :p

[starkind]

I think it's possible to heckle people without being mean.

I'm terrible at it though and at this point I think I am just wasting everyone's time.

[imperiouskitten]

i liked the picture with words on it

there's no revenging in baseball :p

yeah mistreating longtime friends and helping bigots escape with (they perceive) their dignity is "baseball".

you're empty. believe I've heard you on about "punching nazis" too, lol. At least we are beyond any type of pretense of kindness at this point from your corner. Unless of course it allows you to imagine guilt-free violence visited upon others lol.

This forum and how it impacts minds is not a game; look at Cecily, Maerilith and Patriam. This place, its norms and the approval of its people are extremely important to their overall POV and you gaslight them constantly. At this point they are too delusional and filled with bile to even communicate with. They'll probably spend their entire remaining lives in relationships of abuse, or committing abuse themselves, and Patriam will enter his 60s and probably die without finding the dignity or kindness of age, the last young friend he ever made being you. You are truly unkind.

All 3 will remember me as some sort of monster, because I never stopped demanding to be treated with respect. They'll spend the rest of their lives emulating your emotional disconnection, hurtfulness, general faked-aloofness. Because you decided that trans people should sit still for n*gg*r jokes about themselves, and I'm a busybody cunt for not.

I wish I had some way of reaching you with the truth of how abusive you have been to the three listed people, but I reckon no appeal to your faux-goodness will ever outscale your desire to harm us. I'll add Nexii's name too as a key focal point in your own bigotry and stealthy hatred which called to the fore your warped, puritanical, hateful and horrifyingly sophomoric thought processes and revealed exactly how profoundly stunted you are emotionally.

You come crawling back to me pretending humility in DMs, then it's right back to the transphobic shit. Fuck you.

Ready for transphobic remark reply.

[Pulgasari]

yeah mistreating longtime friends and helping bigots escape with (they perceive) their dignity is "baseball".

you're empty. believe I've heard you on about "punching nazis" too, lol. At least we are beyond any type of pretense of kindness at this point from your corner.

This forum and how it impacts minds is not a game; look at Cecily, Maerilith and Patriam. This place, its norms and the approval of its people are extremely important to their overall POV and you gaslight them constantly. At this point they are too delusional and filled with bile to even communicate with. They'll probably spend their entire remaining lives in relationships of abuse, or committing abuse themselves, and Patriam will enter his 60s and probably die without finding the dignity or kindness of age, the last young friend he ever made being you. You are truly unkind.

Do you recall how my Nazi punching phase ended?

Hint: you took the L

[imperiouskitten]

Do you recall how my Nazi punching phase ended?

Hint: you took the L

no, I don't remember. it's kind of a minor point. the rest stands and your anger proves to me I am aimed at your heart.

This angle will continue to enrage you for as long as you continue pretending holier-than-thou while white knighting for frothing chuds who are in the process of harassing minorities. You're a social careerist and have a permission structure built for mistreating your acquaintances. I'm not and I don't.

You are actively engaged in the hatred and social oppression that has 40% suicide attempt rates among my social cohort. You boost that signal. You are a profoundly shitty person and you don't even aim to improve, which does actually make me morally superior to you and other Nazis (sorry for mis-answering this the other day).

[Pulgasari]

no, I don't remember. it's kind of a minor point. the rest stands and your anger proves to me I am aimed at your heart.

This angle will continue to enrage you for as long as you continue pretending holier-than-thou while white knighting for frothing chuds who are in the process of harassing minorities. You're a social careerist and have a permission structure built for mistreating your acquaintances. I'm not and I don't.

you posted a bunch of black dicks like you always do

more lectures plz

[imperiouskitten]

you posted a bunch of black dicks like you always do

more lectures plz

just don't engage with me. I'm not interested in knowing people who cannot forgive things 5yrs old before gender transition, and are cringe childlike enough to use 5yr-old, apologized-for events as some sort of perfect justification for behaving as slime. You feel justified because I was shitty once, which means you really do hold yourself to a lower standard than I am held to.

If you believe I am a monster who deserves to be pursued and harmed, stop crawling back to me begging for friendship. And I'm sorry again. Hope you can heal from my old buried bladez.

[imperiouskitten]

(also - if it's all a meme then why are you mad ? why can none of you talk with me in good faith, have your hearts really been lost for-ever? )

[Pulgasari]

just don't engage with me. I'm not interested in knowing people who cannot forgive things 5yrs old before gender transition, and are cringe childlike enough to use 5yr-old, apologized-for events as some sort of perfect justification for behaving as slime. You feel justified because I was shitty once, which means you really do hold yourself to a lower standard than I am held to.

If you believe I am a monster who deserves to be pursued and harmed, stop crawling back to me begging for friendship. And I'm sorry again. Hope you can heal from my old buried bladez.

I already said I wasn't mad at you for that stuff. But if you try to "call me out", I'm your huckleberry. :cool:

[Pulgasari]

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

[imperiouskitten]

I already said I wasn't mad at you for that stuff. But if you try to "call me out", I'm your huckleberry. :cool:

so it was a nonsequitur?

this affectation of disinterest is kinda the last one, at least maybe for this year. you are extremely protective of your tiny penis. see ya later lol, and enjoy cultivating the lack of wit here u enjoy ? :o

the worst thing is that patriam claims to think u have a higher iq number than me lmfao. as they say lead, follow or get out of the way you effete lil bidoof

[Pulgasari]

so it was a nonsequitur?

this affectation of disinterest is kinda the last one, at least maybe for this year. you are extremely protective of your tiny penis. see ya later lol, and enjoy cultivating the lack of wit here u enjoy ? :o

the worst thing is that patriam claims to think u have a higher iq number than me lmfao. as they say lead, follow or get out of the way you effete lil bidoof

It was the part I found interesting.

cya in ur next vid 👍

[imperiouskitten]

It was the part I found interesting.

cya in ur next vid ��

the only women comfortable posting with you in the environment you create are self-hating. and you reinforce that self-hatred. for being unable to acknowledge or address that and persisting actively, defending bigots in action and even targeting trans women yourself with words like "creepy rapist" if they seem socially isolated, you are a piece of trash on a fundamental level and lack the impulse control to hide your malevolence. Do not consider yourself the friend of queers you posture to be; you are a shitbird normie who would gaslight me about there even being a problem if I were weak enough to succumb.

And you acknowledged this, in so many words, when you created a new forum account just to beg for forgiveness in PMs. So this is pretty smallbrained unkindness dude. I have been clear about what needs I have if you want my friendship, and they are nothing beyond basic decency. Don't waste our time with contacting me again. And don't read the previous sentence with a tearful martyr's eyes, sobbing about what a shrew I am for taking your N-word pass and saying something about your unrepentant mistreatment of the women who like you. That would just be toooo sad

[Cecily]

It was the part I found interesting.

cya in ur next vid 👍

How do you find her? Sort by lowest rating?

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/j0IyiwU.png

:o

[HalflingSpergand]

Maybe u should quit the elf forums forever, again bud. Cause u just are the whiniest and u clearly dont need or like the elves

[starkind]

yeah mistreating longtime friends and helping bigots escape with (they perceive) their dignity is "baseball".

you're empty. believe I've heard you on about "punching nazis" too, lol. At least we are beyond any type of pretense of kindness at this point from your corner. Unless of course it allows you to imagine guilt-free violence visited upon others lol.

This forum and how it impacts minds is not a game; look at Cecily, Maerilith and Patriam. This place, its norms and the approval of its people are extremely important to their overall POV and you gaslight them constantly. At this point they are too delusional and filled with bile to even communicate with. They'll probably spend their entire remaining lives in relationships of abuse, or committing abuse themselves, and Patriam will enter his 60s and probably die without finding the dignity or kindness of age, the last young friend he ever made being you. You are truly unkind.

All 3 will remember me as some sort of monster, because I never stopped demanding to be treated with respect. They'll spend the rest of their lives emulating your emotional disconnection, hurtfulness, general faked-aloofness. Because you decided that trans people should sit still for n*gg*r jokes about themselves, and I'm a busybody cunt for not.

I wish I had some way of reaching you with the truth of how abusive you have been to the three listed people, but I reckon no appeal to your faux-goodness will ever outscale your desire to harm us. I'll add Nexii's name too as a key focal point in your own bigotry and stealthy hatred which called to the fore your warped, puritanical, hateful and horrifyingly sophomoric thought processes and revealed exactly how profoundly stunted you are emotionally.

You come crawling back to me pretending humility in DMs, then it's right back to the transphobic shit. Fuck you.

Ready for transphobic remark reply.

I'm not bitter or like super duper angry with u. Nor do I wish u or anyone else here, or elsewhere ill will. In fact I'm quite willing and already have selflessly sacrificed myself on the altars of principality and generosity.

Like. You're right in that I'm a disabled and broken troll. But you're wrong about the motivations and desires. You're also mind reading without the access to my body, soul, and spirit. Or benefit of my energy. I am closed off to you emotionally. Not because I'm angry with you or disgusted or in some kind of irreconcilable disagreement. But because I don't want to impose upon you, nor get involved in your troubles. (Minor). Or detract or dilute whatever triumphs.

You're probably right about everything and everyone else. And Cecily definitely seeeeethes with rage.

Pulgisari thinks they are above it all and somehow an authority.

None of you can really relate to the many truths before you.

[Cecily]

Think so?

[starkind]

My feelings are being shared.

Prove me wrong or share urs.

But yeah. I don't come here for wisdom from you Cecily and it's not fun to see you stab at Impk. A lot of posts are getting big eyerolls and hardcore deep sighs from me but I'm not really interested in sharing those.

I really don't want to encourage either of you to be negative. Or defensive.

[Jibartik]

The Forums.

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[Gwaihir]

The Forums.

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The best part about this video is it showcases a wide diversity of Thots

[imperiouskitten]

How do you find her? Sort by lowest rating?

sort by highest viewers when i'm on live :) you can watch me make $1k in 2 hours with a big happy smile. i'll be on top of the trans section for sure, there might be a few cis girls ahead on main page. i'm sure you can guess wat site. otherwise im paywalled, unless you can find someone poaching video somewheres.

lol nice jibartik