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Midoo
05-30-2021, 02:41 PM
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I swap both and keep using them every level to keep them at skillcap. So far they both do 1 damage but I'm paranoid to find out one of them becomes like a mini Rogue Backstab one day.

Naethyn
05-30-2021, 03:31 PM
At lv 55 kick gains an interrupt.

Midoo
05-30-2021, 04:36 PM
Doesn't bash interrupt innately?

Jimjam
05-30-2021, 05:57 PM
Doesn't bash interrupt innately?

A chance to stun

Videri
05-30-2021, 06:08 PM
Doesn't bash interrupt innately?

Bash has a chance to, yes. And since warriors' Bash skill cap is higher than their Kick skill cap, it's thought that Bashing is a more surefire way to interrupt a spell.

However, if you're not on a large-race warrior, you would have to briefly swap in a shield to Bash (not that hard), whereas you can skip that if feeling lazy and simply Kick (which is probably slightly lower chance to interrupt).

Midoo
05-30-2021, 06:50 PM
And just to be clear they both do the same damage right?

Cen
05-31-2021, 01:54 AM
Kick does more damage, but has a lower chance to hit, and stuns every time only on warriors at 55+

Bash does less damage, stuns 100 percent of the time when used on an NPCs rear, and 25 percent on the front but NOT on all monster types. About half of the monster types won't be stunned from the front with bash. Gnolls for example. Still interupts spells every time.

Large races can slam which is identical to bash and uses shoulder slot for magic bash check. Slam should always be used over bash, but kick replaces bash for the most part on 55+ warriors.

wagorf
06-01-2021, 05:40 AM
no

myrddraal
06-01-2021, 09:00 PM
Warriors don’t really use shields, so bash isn’t good.

Midoo
06-02-2021, 01:29 PM
Yeah I kinda fucked up, I meant SLAM not BASH

I'm playing a Barbarian Warrior

Jibartik
06-02-2021, 01:45 PM
Slam afaik is same as bash? a free bash for big bois?

would have been cool to like give a shields AC a damage bonus to bash or a bash stat even, so you could have a low AC shield with spikes that do big bash damage.

DeathsSilkyMist
06-02-2021, 02:44 PM
Slam afaik is same as bash? a free bash for big bois?

would have been cool to like give a shields AC a damage bonus to bash or a bash stat even, so you could have a low AC shield with spikes that do big bash damage.

Yeah Slam and Bash are basically the same, other than the shield requirement and the magic weapon check coming from your shoulders. Slam skills up bash, and I haven't seen any damage differences between the two.

Videri
06-02-2021, 05:32 PM
Warriors don’t really use shields, so bash isn’t good.

Good non-large-race warriors keep a shield in a top-level inventory slot and momentarily swap it in to Bash.

Also, since the Bash skill cap is higher than Kick skill cap, I think that means you're more likely to land a Bash than a Kick.

kaev
06-04-2021, 12:11 PM
Yeah Slam and Bash are basically the same, other than the shield requirement and the magic weapon check coming from your shoulders. Slam skills up bash, and I haven't seen any damage differences between the two.

Shield AC affects Bash damage. Don't think anything other than skill/str/level affects Slam damage. It's just eye candy tho, even with a high AC shield we're not talking significant damage output from Bash unless you're into one-shotting orc pawns.