is shutting down blue an option?

[wuanahto]

after my few weeks of playing i feel that the blue server ran its purpose and keeping it around is only stunting greens health. from what i gathered blue is over a decade old and is no longer updated, meanwhile green server can use the spurt of players across all zones. and from what i ferthuereruer gather, green will too, end its usefulness.

this is not hate
this is not a waste of your time

this is for the future.

does this server/branch/forum have a signing of petitions for the good of the future?

[ZarkinFrood]

People would die bro

[Shawk]

You aren't the first to say this but people depend on the server being there when they come back after hiatus. It is a constant cycle of people going afk for months then expecting to be able to come back and play, and we always have gotten that with blue, green is more new growth while blue is more compounded old growth.. Those people would probably just stop playing if you tried something like this and that kind of "tactic" of over thinking things is exactly what kills the old growth that blue has.. That and Blue and Green are a bit different in a few ways to where Blue is still desirable over Green.

[Danth]

Yup. Shut down blue, my family and I aren't going to play Green, we'd just quit P99 entirely. Not interested in progression servers. Anyone who wanted to move to Green has long since done so.

Danth

[Mblake1981]

Green was a mistake.

[starkind]

daybreak needs to shut down p99 and launch their own classic server

[Patriam1066]

People would die bro

Lol’d

[Old_PVP]

Shut down blue...but merge characters into RED for the win.

[Pulgasari]

People would die bro

[Penish]

People would die bro

lol

[Valrok]

daybreak needs to shut down p99 and launch their own classic server

Daybreak doesn't own EQ anymore. Also, if they truly attempted to recreate classic Everquest, they would not do it without the implementation of krono; which is the antithesis of what P99 is and stands for.

[Nexii]

Daybreak doesn't own EQ anymore. Also, if they truly attempted to recreate classic Everquest, they would not do it without the implementation of krono; which is the antithesis of what P99 is and stands for.

Daybreak still owns the Everquest IP. It's their parent company that changed (Columbus Nova > Enad Global 7)

[cd288]

after my few weeks of playing i feel that the blue server ran its purpose and keeping it around is only stunting greens health. from what i gathered blue is over a decade old and is no longer updated, meanwhile green server can use the spurt of players across all zones. and from what i ferthuereruer gather, green will too, end its usefulness.

this is not hate
this is not a waste of your time

this is for the future.

does this server/branch/forum have a signing of petitions for the good of the future?

Since you’re new here I’ll explain. The majority of blues player base falls into two camps: 1. High level characters in raiding guilds who log on to raid and then play green while they’re not raiding, and 2. People who are playing on both servers simultaneously since that’s allowed.

So it’s not really hurting greens pop that much as I think there are few blue players who don’t play on green at all and even fewer new players who play blue over green.

[Videri]

ferthuereruer

[Bardp1999]

Amazon.com Mace sales would increase 5000% over night

[Zoggren]

0/10 shitpost

[starkind]

If these servers went down garantee TaKP would increase in population 2k overnight.

666.6666666666 players x3 autobots.

[OuterChimp]

Teal Server 4life!

[A Knight]

Please don't scare me like this. I need to do some other things first, but if population drops too low I'll have to log on. Population looks fine though.

[A Knight]

Oh yea RnF. But seriously don't make me play Wow for the rest of my life.

[RecondoJoe]

I don't think P99 will be around much longer. Was such an amazing project. Wish I had seen it when it was BRAND new.

[Bardp1999]

I don't think P99 will be around much longer. Was such an amazing project. Wish I had seen it when it was BRAND new.

Yea, it's only lasted 12+ years and has a 4 figure population, surely the end is neigh.

[RecondoJoe]

Yea, it's only lasted 12+ years and has a 4 figure population, surely the end is neigh.

It has more to do with Daybreak Games, and things they've said. If you play on TLP for even an instant you might be shocked about the overall sentiment of P99 by both the staff and community. It's problematic when the first thing you find when you google EverQuest leads you to a forum of Qanon weirdos.

[Swish]

It has more to do with Daybreak Games, and things they've said. If you play on TLP for even an instant you might be shocked about the overall sentiment of P99 by both the staff and community. It's problematic when the first thing you find when you google EverQuest leads you to a forum of Qanon weirdos.

If you log onto P99 you might be shocked about the overall sentiment of the TLP servers. Very different and if P99 went down I would call it a day there or play another emulated server before going to "a new classic server" that dies inside a year.

[cd288]

It has more to do with Daybreak Games, and things they've said. If you play on TLP for even an instant you might be shocked about the overall sentiment of P99 by both the staff and community. It's problematic when the first thing you find when you google EverQuest leads you to a forum of Qanon weirdos.

Oh man I had no idea that players on TLP and random CSR staff at Daybreak have authority to revoke any sort of permissive licensing etc.

You’re right dude they’re totally gonna shut down P99. Not like they first would have to find a way to do that under their contract and then also find a way around a promissory estoppel defense by P99 (sorry if those words were too big for you btw, I know your IQ is on the lower side).

[TripSin]

It has more to do with Daybreak Games, and things they've said. If you play on TLP for even an instant you might be shocked about the overall sentiment of P99 by both the staff and community. It's problematic when the first thing you find when you google EverQuest leads you to a forum of Qanon weirdos.

I legitimately don't understand why Daybreak doesn't pressure p99 staff to do more about all the racists and absolute human trash that fill these boards. I've just figured they aren't paying attention.

[TripSin]

or some other less obvious financial reason

[Swish]

I legitimately don't understand why Daybreak doesn't pressure p99 staff to do more about all the racists and absolute human trash that fill these boards. I've just figured they aren't paying attention.

Maybe just shut down RNF.

If you could put a figure on "racists", how many would you say there are?

[Jibartik]

I legitimately don't understand why Daybreak doesn't pressure p99 staff to do more about all the racists and absolute human trash that fill these boards. I've just figured they aren't paying attention.

daybreak is in texas bro

[cd288]

I legitimately don't understand why Daybreak doesn't pressure p99 staff to do more about all the racists and absolute human trash that fill these boards. I've just figured they aren't paying attention.

You call people autistic. Do you fall into the bucket daybreak should do something about?

[Jibartik]

lets be honest, daybreak probably doesn't want to call attention to p99 just to distance itself from these forums.

[TomisFeline]

Amazon.com Mace sales would increase 5000% over night

macequest refs get me every time

[RecondoJoe]

ITT people have never heard of Nostalrius

[RecondoJoe]

daybreak is in texas bro

They're actually celebrating Pride month, which annoys me. I like to log into a game to escape real-life. Why are they forcing Pride month in our face? And this is coming from a member of the LGBT.

I also find it obnoxious that their idea of celebrating Pride month is by giving people rainbow rabbit pets. Insinuating that all gay people are fruity is not only racist, it's inaccurate. If they really want to be allies of LGBT they will makes gender changes free. Literally every other pro-gay MMO has done this.

[CancerMage]

beta server is over, shoulda started on green long ago.

[Arvan]

beta server is over, shoulda started on green long ago.

Did no one tell him he will be dumped into the real server after green is reset in a short while?

[putrid_plum]

blue players just cant let go of their L60 of every class top tier geared to actually play the game on green is all, deleting it would cause rage

[Mblake1981]

So it’s not really hurting greens pop that much as I think there are few blue players who don’t play on green at all and even fewer new players who play blue over green.

*raises hand*

Played Green opening week, it was the best EQ i have experienced since 2000, but after the first week it lost all its appeal to me when the player base began to spread out, when we were no longer fighting over a single skeleton spawn.. nor were so many noobs on doing dumb funny stuff for me to laugh at.

The EC Griffin is still my EQ Hero.

[Mblake1981]

blue players just cant let go of their L60 of every class top tier geared to actually play the game on green is all, deleting it would cause rage

Sure, I would quit P99 all together. Played here since 2011. Takes me a very long time to get up there since I am not a power gamer or l33t raider (nor do I ever care to be).

Like my friend said years ago, "Eq is a lifestyle". P99 became sometime always on the backburner, always there. Like comfort food.

I am thankful at least some Windows era games are still around. I am not with the social media meme driven, multiplatform mediocrity found out there today.

[Mblake1981]

lets be honest, daybreak probably doesn't want to call attention to p99 just to distance itself from these forums.

Aside from a few weird sexual inclinations found here that I also distanced myself from, I would distance myself from daybreak or Global Enad 7.

Those people are not making anything I find interesting. Also the American counter culture got screwed up via social media with all the other countries chipping in with their 2 bits.

I had a sense of pride walking into oldschool VHS stores and seeing labels like "banned in 46 countries!". That is America. Those people out there are not making anything interesting to me.

[DMN]

https://i.imgur.com/IHaqbfO.png

[mcoy]

The EC Griffin is still my EQ Hero.

I think that was my favorite part of the early days of green. The support for Team Grif was phenomenal.

-Mcoy

[Topgunben]

its sad to see blue at such a low population. I think it would be nice if I could take my chars from blue and transfer them to green, even if that meant losing all my items.

Its just kind of silly to have 2 servers (3 if you count ded red) when we only have enough players for 1.

[wuanahto]

What is Red?

[Ravager]

They're actually celebrating Pride month, which annoys me. I like to log into a game to escape real-life. Why are they forcing Pride month in our face? And this is coming from a member of the LGBT.

I also find it obnoxious that their idea of celebrating Pride month is by giving people rainbow rabbit pets. Insinuating that all gay people are fruity is not only racist, it's inaccurate. If they really want to be allies of LGBT they will makes gender changes free. Literally every other pro-gay MMO has done this.
The word you're looking for is "bigoted". Gay isn't a race.

[myrddraal]

its sad to see blue at such a low population. I think it would be nice if I could take my chars from blue and transfer them to green, even if that meant losing all my items.

Its just kind of silly to have 2 servers (3 if you count ded red) when we only have enough players for 1.

Once people realize they won’t get warmer loot they’ll be back on blue

[myrddraal]

Warder too. Love autocorrect. Thanks phone

[starkind]

short answer to OPs question, is yes

[Mblake1981]

short answer to OPs question, is yes

Acceptable. The only losses being the tiny bit of EQ flavoring mixed in with this social media.

[RecondoJoe]

The word you're looking for is "bigoted". Gay isn't a race.potato patoto u bigot

[Deecay]

Once Green catches up and to Blue, then it’ll be wipe Blue and start Green2.0

[Ennewi]

Green and Blue merge, creating Teal.

[RecondoJoe]

I would call it a day there or play another emulated server before going to "a new classic server" that dies inside a year.

If P99 released a new server every year, the previous P99 server would die instantly.
I could have a blast playing on Aradune right now, but I would much rather play on Mischief. If Mischief didn't launch, most players would still be playing on Aradune. I don't consider this dying. If P99 released a new server every year, the same effect would be had. And it essentially happens already anyways. I remember P99 Green being dead for months before Kunark launched (and I have to assume it's dead now... like how long has Kunark been out now?)

Secondly, 99% of you wouldn't be playing P99 if it cost $15 a month to play.

And 99% of you would be playing TLP if it was free-to-play.

I know how P99 players are.

The sad part is that most of them are super broke and think they can't afford to play TLP without realizing that they would actually be able to make money legally by playing on TLP. Instead of being some loser who sits in his mom's basement farming nobles for worthless currency, literally just swap over to TLP and be some loser who sits in his mom's basement farming nobles for real-life money.

It's a no brainer. You don't even have to be good at this game. The type of people who buy Kronos with their debit cards are employed people who don't mind spending $100 on an amount of currency someone like you could farm in a few hours.

[Mblake1981]

TLP hype that is important for yall.

[Bardp1999]

I know how P99 players are.

I really dont think you do. You shit post on the forums as you are 'discovering' things about EQ that 95% of the people here have known about for over a decade, if not longer.

1) you have never been in the top guild (TMO, IB, AM, ect, ect)
2) you have no experience raiding on P99
3) you are obsessed with non-classic things
4) I dont think you even have a max level character

You literally know nothing about how neck beardy the server is aside from what you read on the forums or see in Crushbone (while many times accurate, doesn't give the full picture). Until you have woken up at 3am on a Tuesday to kill Nagafen (while in Velious) then you dont know shit about how insane P99 players are.

[jacobar]

Am a literal Semite and find this offensive

[Toxigen]

I really dont think you do. You shit post on the forums as you are 'discovering' things about EQ that 95% of the people here have known about for over a decade, if not longer.

1) you have never been in the top guild (TMO, IB, AM, ect, ect)
2) you have no experience raiding on P99
3) you are obsessed with non-classic things
4) I dont think you even have a max level character

You literally know nothing about how neck beardy the server is aside from what you read on the forums or see in Crushbone (while many times accurate, doesn't give the full picture). Until you have woken up at 3am on a Tuesday to kill Nagafen (while in Velious) then you dont know shit about how insane P99 players are.

...but...bladestopper

[fortior]

I really dont think you do. You shit post on the forums as you are 'discovering' things about EQ that 95% of the people here have known about for over a decade, if not longer.

1) you have never been in the top guild (TMO, IB, AM, ect, ect)
2) you have no experience raiding on P99
3) you are obsessed with non-classic things
4) I dont think you even have a max level character

You literally know nothing about how neck beardy the server is aside from what you read on the forums or see in Crushbone (while many times accurate, doesn't give the full picture). Until you have woken up at 3am on a Tuesday to kill Nagafen (while in Velious) then you dont know shit about how insane P99 players are.

[starkind]

I wouldn't mind if they left blue running, but they should freeze all exp and actions so u can only walk around and everything cons indifferent, nothing is key'd anymore, and you can't create any new characters.

[Mblake1981]

...but...bladestopper

Whos got my DA idol??

[cd288]

I really dont think you do. You shit post on the forums as you are 'discovering' things about EQ that 95% of the people here have known about for over a decade, if not longer.

1) you have never been in the top guild (TMO, IB, AM, ect, ect)
2) you have no experience raiding on P99
3) you are obsessed with non-classic things
4) I dont think you even have a max level character

You literally know nothing about how neck beardy the server is aside from what you read on the forums or see in Crushbone (while many times accurate, doesn't give the full picture). Until you have woken up at 3am on a Tuesday to kill Nagafen (while in Velious) then you dont know shit about how insane P99 players are.

Well he had a max level (50 was the max at the time) character for sure at one point, but then he got whiney that people didn't like him and deleted it on camera, posted about it, and then got more upset when nobody cared.

He probably does have some 50s on P99 now considering he regularly brags about playing EQ for 16 hours a day 7 days a week in his basement. Imagine if that was your real life?

[Danth]

I do not understand the mindset of, "I'm done with this thing, so now it must be ruined for everybody else, too!"

Danth

[RecondoJoe]

I really dont think you do. You shit post on the forums as you are 'discovering' things about EQ that 95% of the people here have known about for over a decade, if not longer.

1) you have never been in the top guild (TMO, IB, AM, ect, ect)
2) you have no experience raiding on P99
3) you are obsessed with non-classic things
4) I dont think you even have a max level character

You literally know nothing about how neck beardy the server is aside from what you read on the forums or see in Crushbone (while many times accurate, doesn't give the full picture). Until you have woken up at 3am on a Tuesday to kill Nagafen (while in Velious) then you dont know shit about how insane P99 players are.

This would be a neat fantasy if ya' know, people didn't know who I was in game or I wasn't literally the first level 50 Cleric on Thornblade outside of the box armies rolling around with $15 exp potions on the entire time.

[RecondoJoe]

I do not understand the mindset of, "I'm done with this thing, so now it must be ruined for everybody else, too!"

Danth

I dont think it's that at all.

I think people want to play classic EverQuest, and there's no way to do that on P99 currently. That is literally the reason I went to TLP. I had been waiting for a long time for a new one to launch as I realized that a similar experience won't occur on P99 again in the near future, if at all.

[Evia]

I do not understand the mindset of, "I'm done with this thing, so now it must be ruined for everybody else, too!"

Danth

[cd288]

I dont think it's that at all.

I think people want to play classic EverQuest, and there's no way to do that on P99 currently. That is literally the reason I went to TLP. I had been waiting for a long time for a new one to launch as I realized that a similar experience won't occur on P99 again in the near future, if at all.

Bro he’s talking about you I think

[NPC]

If P99 released a new server every year, the previous P99 server would die instantly.
I could have a blast playing on Aradune right now, but I would much rather play on Mischief. If Mischief didn't launch, most players would still be playing on Aradune. I don't consider this dying. If P99 released a new server every year, the same effect would be had. And it essentially happens already anyways. I remember P99 Green being dead for months before Kunark launched (and I have to assume it's dead now... like how long has Kunark been out now?)

Secondly, 99% of you wouldn't be playing P99 if it cost $15 a month to play.

And 99% of you would be playing TLP if it was free-to-play.

I know how P99 players are.

The sad part is that most of them are super broke and think they can't afford to play TLP without realizing that they would actually be able to make money legally by playing on TLP. Instead of being some loser who sits in his mom's basement farming nobles for worthless currency, literally just swap over to TLP and be some loser who sits in his mom's basement farming nobles for real-life money.

It's a no brainer. You don't even have to be good at this game. The type of people who buy Kronos with their debit cards are employed people who don't mind spending $100 on an amount of currency someone like you could farm in a few hours.


From what I understand TLP do not have all the classic zones. Nek Forest for instance, that's always my noob zone, the new Nek Forest suks. No north Ro, Oasis, South RO, that's enough for me to not play it. If they did I might consider it.

[cd288]

From what I understand TLP do not have all the classic zones. Nek Forest for instance, that's always my noob zone, the new Nek Forest suks. No north Ro, Oasis, South RO, that's enough for me to not play it. If they did I might consider it.

Yeah there’s a lot of other non classic features of TLP but even if those weren’t there the zone revamps alone would probably keep me from playing

[strongNpretty]

A 2000 pop server is a terrible suggestion.

[Tunabros]

"this is not hate"

[starkind]

yeah i don't hate blue

personally i want to make a new game that makes blue obsolete tho

[Mblake1981]

yeah i don't hate blue

personally i want to make a new game that makes blue obsolete tho

Something besides EQ.

[Jibartik]

The randomized loot tables on mischife are hands down the most fun I've had playing EQ since I discovered p99



The thing I like abut eq is memorising the patterns and using that to be better at it. It's kind of old school gaming style. Learn the pattern of the boss, while dying many times, to then figure out how to defeat him with your eyes closed.

EQ is like that only on a grander scale. I always thought it would be a dumb idea to mix things up by randomising loot because it would remove the patterns that made EQ cool, but in practice its not that way at all.

It creates this environment where im like, "what do tonight, oh i know, go to kerra to see what drops!" and its fun! "oh ill go to the shadowknight in befallen and see if he has any special loot!"

asking people "hey this dead imp corpse, drop anything cool!??"

it's like when I was a kid playing this game, and there was still mystery... but stil my patern recognition gives me advantage in at least just knowing WHERE the rare spawns are.

So its like, best of both worlds I discovered.

[starkind]

Randomizing loot helps break the OCD a lot of EQ players suffer.

[Allishia]

Lot of us like that our toons are well established and we can still have fun helping people and doing misc quest without having to time sink anymore.

Sorry you missed the boat but please stop wishing ill on people's fun server just cause you were late to the party!

Go play those pay to win Kronos servers where you can box and macroquest and all that other crap that's on live /nod.

[Baler]

I grouped with Allishia in karnor castle basement when she was leveling her dark elf warrior.

Was one of the best tanks I've grouped with.

[Allishia]

I grouped with Allishia in karnor castle basement when she was leveling her dark elf warrior.

Was one of the best tanks I've grouped with.

Lol, those were hard times, with my crappy yak from the dark elf camp and that torq stun well from steamfont rofl :)

[Videri]

OP, Rogean/Project 1999 never ever wipe their servers. Their servers can be viewed as museums, perpetually inhabited by those who play there.

from what i gathered blue is over a decade old and is no longer updated

It's not "no longer updated." It's complete. It has reached the completion of its intended timeline. Blue will continue to change, however, if bugs are fixed or if new classic evidence is presented.

meanwhile green server can use the spurt of players across all zones.

Not at all true. Green is overcrowded at the top end and pretty well populated throughout the level ranges.

does this server/branch/forum have a signing of petitions for the good of the future?

Rogean and perhaps Nilbog make all decisions regarding the future of P99. They do not take into account player opinions. They don't even care if people play here. Their sole goal is to replicate classic EverQuest as it was from 1999-2001.

[Ravager]

potato patoto u bigot
A patoto is not a potato. It's generalizations like this that make prejudice so prevalent. Your words matter. Choose them more carefully. U clownshoe.

[Shawk]

OP, Rogean/Project 1999 never ever wipe their servers. Their servers can be viewed as museums, perpetually inhabited by those who play there.

It's not "no longer updated." It's complete. It has reached the completion of its intended timeline. Blue will continue to change, however, if bugs are fixed or if new classic evidence is presented.

Not at all true. Green is overcrowded at the top end and pretty well populated throughout the level ranges.

Rogean and perhaps Nilbog make all decisions regarding the future of P99. They do not take into account player opinions. They don't even care if people play here. Their sole goal is to replicate classic EverQuest as it was from 1999-2001.


Thankfully, this is the real truth.

[cd288]

Thankfully, this is the real truth.

Except for the last part. They’ve definitely taken into account player opinions in some past decisions.

[Videri]

Except for the last part. They’ve definitely taken into account player opinions in some past decisions.

There may indeed be examples of that. Let me rephrase: they do not frequently take into account player opinions. It's not like a democracy. Nor can you get enough signatures on a petition for them to take notice and do as you ask. Their choices are guided primarily by two things: what is classic, and what is feasible with their all-volunteer staff.

[RecondoJoe]

From what I understand TLP do not have all the classic zones. Nek Forest for instance, that's always my noob zone, the new Nek Forest suks. No north Ro, Oasis, South RO, that's enough for me to not play it. If they did I might consider it.

The re makes of these zones, particularly Nektulos Forest, have been amazing. My enchanter is a dark elf, and I made many noob friends, and there were a ton of camps for us to level at. The entire zone was teeming with life.

Nektulos forest on P99 is an actual ghost town because there is literally nothing there, it’s just a connecting zone for Lavastorm, which is another connecting zone for Sol B.

On TLP Nektulos Forest and Lavastorm are both filled with things to do. Level 1 Dark Elves don’t have to instantly run to Freeport and East commons and then Oasis to level. They can now level in Nektulos Forest and Lavastorm to 20+ and by correlation, this makes Najena and Sol A more populated— two more zones that are abandoned on P99.

[xdrcfrx]

Why are you posting here if TLP is so much better? Go live your best EQ life!

[RecondoJoe]

The re makes of these zones, particularly Nektulos Forest, have been amazing. My enchanter is a dark elf, and I made many noob friends, and there were a ton of camps for us to level at. The entire zone was teeming with life.

Nektulos forest on P99 is an actual ghost town because there is literally nothing there, it’s just a connecting zone for Lavastorm, which is another connecting zone for Sol B.

On TLP Nektulos Forest and Lavastorm are both filled with things to do. Level 1 Dark Elves don’t have to instantly run to Freeport and East commons and then Oasis to level. They can now level in Nektulos Forest and Lavastorm to 20+ and by correlation, this makes Najena and Sol A more populated— two more zones that are abandoned on P99.
The new Toxxulia is amazing now too. It felt surreal since my first character was an Erudite and there were a ton of players grouping up in Toxx at Kobold camps, and then we went to Kerra Island and hit 20+ and got sick loot. I went back to Kerra island 2 weeks later and it was even more populated than before. But let me guess, this is bad and the old Kerra Island on P99 that likely hasn’t had a low level player in it for years is better, right?

[RecondoJoe]

Why are you posting here if TLP is so much better? Go live your best EQ life!

Can’t play waiting on windows to install on new mining rig I’m building.

[RecondoJoe]

https://i.imgur.com/lAEDYtq.jpg

[cd288]

Toxx needed a bit of a revamp, but nektulos has always been an amazing newbie zone. Plenty of decent camps, lots of roaming mobs and some safe spots to afk at throughout the zone. Doesn’t have the quests of the Qeynos area but most places don’t either