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Daloon

06-26-2021, 04:14 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x-u9B38AePUk9U-nprqKQauTo5GuaTVtDRjo5ahusPA/edit

Imagine spending more time in UN lawyerquesting for free mobs than actual raid leading. Just pathetic limp-wristed behavior.

Horza

06-26-2021, 04:20 PM

https://i.imgur.com/KR8zSH1.png

Cecily

06-26-2021, 04:21 PM

6/19/21 Vulak’Aerr

Situation

When: Saturday, June 19, 2021
Where: Temple of Veeshan
What: Vulak’Aerr
Who: Kittens Who Say Meow & Riot v. Vanquish
Results: Vanquish trains Riot/Kittens raid, goes on to kill Vulak.

Allegation

Parties Accused: Vanquish
Allegation of Misconduct: Q2 for raid interference (training); Q3 for refusal to acknowledge mistake; Q4 for refusal to discuss alleged raid infractions in real time during the encounter; Q11 for training.

Summary

Kittens and Riot were collectively at the top of the doubles ramp in North Temple of Veeshan, preparing for an engage of Vulak’Aerr, while Vanquish was at the triples flag doing the same. Vanquish achieved the first FTE, executed the DA trainaway, and established a kite of Vulak’s guards in the triples room. During the course of their engage, the ramp area trash mobs were trained away several times to manage guards returning to the main Vulak engage. At no time did any member of the Kittens/Riot raid descend the ramp or otherwise interfere with the kite or any of the trainaways. Vulak was eventually CH’d by a mob, as a large group of mobs wiped Vanquish. Klazdaxthun, a Vanquish necromancer, during this time ran up the doubles ramp alone and feigned death in the back of the Riot/Kittens raid. At no time did Vanquish warn the zone that Vulak was being dropped, and the kited mobs were returning home. (Violation: Q11)

The trash mobs in the ramp area were reset when Klazdaxthun stood up and re-aggroed the guards returning home. The trash mobs in the ramp area assisted the guards, and all came up the ramp where several members of the Kittens/Riot raid, who were sitting, were killed. When Klazdaxthun was hit by an AoE, he stood and attempted to gate, but was unable to do so before the group of mobs all together turned on him and killed him. Subsequently, the entire rest of the Riot/Kittens raid was wiped, requiring a lengthy CR. (Violations: Q2, Q11)
When approached about the train, Vanquish leadership refused to discuss the matter, and insisted that all parties should play on. (Violation: Q3) Vanquish’s raid disruption gave us no choice but to execute a hasty corpse recovery, and rush to engage. Vanquish was rewarded for their raid disruption and ultimately killed Vulak’Aerr.

Q2 states:

Q2: What exactly is Raid Disruption or Raid Interference?
A: Q3 and Q4 deal with what to do when this happens, but "Raid disruption" and "raid interference" are broad terms that cover a long list of things (near simultaneous FTE, training, kill-stealing, setting of AEs on other people, any violation of the posted raid rules, etc).

Vanquish’s train, which wiped the Kittens/Riot raid at the top of the doubles ramp, is within Q2’s definition of raid disruption.

Q3 and Q4 state:

Q3: If we feel our own guild/party has violated a rule, what actions should we take?
A: If you screw up, then you should concede the mob you screwed up on.

Did they screw up? Yes.
Did they concede? No.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cTjIhWjhFgxJnkzi3fgFdg0_sL-mfJ1FFQI0RZ91zw-hk5QZAwuu_oLsDniv-D9XeB6n_VH7au7Vk-23MV2U13SLMlxRaRFEbroUtVOGOTDJzsWa2_OkYWmrFrQmSWZI 9mZ13e64

Notice: Vanquish leaders do not deny training our raid or “screwing up.” They only deny that they must concede.

Q4: If we feel another guild/party is breaking raid rules what actions may we take?
A: It is probably in your best interest to work raid disputes out among yourselves. The other option is the petition forum.

We believe Vanquish violated rules set forth in Q2, Q3, & Q11, and we attempted to work out the dispute in the UN at the time it happened. Vanquish refused, played on, and killed the mob. We attempted to work out the dispute after the fact, Vanquish was silent to our questions and then refused to offer concessions. They held back their final response until the day this petition was due. Our only remaining option is the petition process.

In addition, Q11 states:

Q11: What about training away trash mobs?
A: This is acceptable, but if you choose to use this tactic, you must keep in mind that you are responsible for your trains/mobs. Meaning if your trainer dies or zones, and the mobs go wipe another guild, that’s still training. When the time comes to purposely drop the train, make sure to communicate and coordinate with any other guilds in the zone. This means actually communicate so that both parties have a fair amount of time to work out a safe place, or a safe time to drop the train. Please try not to run your trains within aggro range of another guild or raid party.

While it was fine for Klaz to be part of a train away/kite, he must be “responsible for [his] trains/mobs.” Mobs went and wiped another guild, and thus, that is still training. When it came time to drop their train, there was no communication and coordination with other guilds in the zone. Ultimately, one of their trainers and the train away/kite was brought to our camp and wiped us, violating Q11.

Evidence & Timeline

First video (2:49 min total): https://youtu.be/WzBYe5fcPkQ (https://youtu.be/WzBYe5fcPkQ) - which is a time-synched compilation of several angles of recording.
First Video: 0:05 Klaz can be seen running up doubles ramp to the Kittens/Riot raid.
First Video: 0:14 Mobs are returning from 4-way area and can be seen running up the triplets ramp.
First Video: 0:36 Riot guild chat calls when the blue drake tries to CH Vulak.
First Video: 1:02 Mobs have reset at the bottom of triples ramp from the initial train scare.
First Video: 1:38 Mobs at the bottom of triples ramp are starting to be displaced again.
First Video: 1:49 Vulak guards and others are clearly visible leaving triples and turning to head to doubles.
First Video: 1:51 Klazdaxthun begins casting, which means at this time he is presently standing up (as shown in Video 3)
First Video: 1:57 New aggro messages are shown for mobs closest to the observer, prior to any members of Riot/Kittens raid being killed, because Klaz has successfully feigned death, and he was the only player on the aggro table of the mobs.
First Video: 2:13 Klaz is seen FD at the back of the raid
First Video: 2:20 Klaz can be seen standing up, and simultaneously the drakes all turn towards him. No new aggro messages are seen because Klaz is already on the mobs’ aggro tables, and the mobs all turn on him as one for the same reason.
First Video: 2:24 Klaz is killed, new aggro messages go out from multiple drakes.

Second Video (3:18 min total) - https://youtu.be/6jd3aj93E_w (https://youtu.be/6jd3aj93E_w)
1:21 - Klazdaxthun is seen cresting top of ramp, moving out of camera to back of raid;
1:24 - a green drake can be seen in the ramp area moving up towards doubles, and Riot/Kittens raid;
1:28 - Klazdaxthun begins to cast a spell (feign death)
1:30 - Green drake is seen changing direction towards triples ramp (feign death succeeded, Klaz is down at this point).
2:53 - Klazdaxthun begins to cast a spell (Klaz is standing again, in order to be casting a spell, as shown in the third video)
2:55 - a shimmering green drake lets out a piercing roar. (Klaz was casting FD, and upon his successful feign, the mobs are free of aggro and re-aggro on a new target with fresh aggro messages).

Third Video (26 seconds total) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YojFVGhSEU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YojFVGhSEU)
0:05 - Klazdaxthun seen standing, then feigning death in back of camp; upon his feign death new aggro message goes out. Only after a new aggro message is seen from a shimmering green drake does Darmai <KWSM> get backstabbed twice and killed, because Klaz was the only player on the mob’s aggro table prior to feigning death.

Attempts at communication:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/oC7LoSA69bMPQ8Sm6H-gjEKOAcROBkItGM5iiVxG7bv37IFQXJUltTgFpr1RnNL-D-oxKhC3T5Xd9ZwAQl8wO1Ls1FmFhBJt059AuncrBXmll0aPlle5 iyPgjeP8A50XHXaEAvo8
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/9UY0jjFjAhW_Ot84nwY7ellEDgjkKlmypTVYcoA-6Egh56Bbviidm8S-FfMMjTdoWZtLRRHh8KCHPp0ioVD5Hs-H29v0USun97YL7sjCmXBlUDd296iXfp1vtIKdQxMna4SFEJl7
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/kxh4I2lQYcTiO-zmm9H7SM1Vm93gpBW4SY7WxyHUZV2c3135sSedP2J9S5iaG9QE TuMpUSYOM5uud87RQcxMwtgUTS47TSM81Yfv9RGNYYvGx2CyYU 1chpU6dzIQ1wUUNqpkTxHC
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/wOMcELVF8ZNVu3LpcwHa9TdG30cAkeqMmvqdWwAkzlNzchaiZj Or4UedLCoYMcbRyKemHXknDY2kIBVtZlvyx44tIJ4zymioiJuf 3Ndb3ojNObTfvaWnjAWeyBKDLagbfHEyEJEX
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/tT7wAQslIG6OnKPj3CXXdCdcJVqzYR6nCzdvT3_wO0Tyxh4ghq ptU4DEpmixgvurGNa9WGXpQDdWBH_dggaooS2ryPmx7FO6KOcF V1F0RO_GeCRY8tt0i52Hl099whajfA4aUoKy
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/5b90i1wyHSXy68z2LKZSo17Ps88xHyV5-_O7ATlPTE_my1o9Xcf22DkreYLYa7kCm_JjH1zuo3HxR4SIBAk d3wPv_fh1rkNc_9MjZy3NQgQJKmJx12y9uqbDBHDQv5ZhchBtr E2n

We then posted additional footage (video 3) that clearly shows Klaz FDing his train onto our raid. Vanquish leadership replied:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Il1GmzyNzHBb1KPEsyYjGJduy1_pjRAdU4ayhVa-lpz8mB9RdISg7eTo_3RUEK7cYahmuD1XqWsiTQZuC5n2vd2pg1 f33JEaTdKlQ1Z61F31gxqBKuN7vjn0OvKLIJj1aVAQ_N4B

Allegations:

Vanquish Disrupted Our Raid by Training Kittens/Riot (Q2, Q11)

It is undeniable that Klazdaxthun ran up to the rear of the Kittens/Riot raid just as Vanquish was wiping on Vulak. The drakes in the ramp area were fully reset, and the Vulak guards were returning to their spawn unaggro’d when a chain of events took place: Klazdaxthun stood, reestablished aggro on the guards, caused the trash mobs to assist the guards, and trained all of the mobs to the doubles ramp. The evidence and timelines provided clearly demonstrate this, and no counter evidence has been suggested or provided to back up any alternate explanation.

As can be seen from 1:50 - 2:00 of the First video posted above, Klazdathun was standing up, and not feigned death when the mobs were coming up the ramp - at 1:53 spell messages show Klaz casting, and 1.5 seconds later, when the spell finished casting, new aggro messages went out from the drakes in line of sight of Riot/Kittens raiders.

At 2:17 in video one, a feigned Klaz is visible in the rear of the raid. At roughly 2:20 - 2:30, Klaz can be observed being hit by AoE, at which time he stood to attempt a gate. The drakes instead bolted for him, and upon his death new aggro messages went out, evidencing that he was the only player on the aggro table at the time of his death. The resulting train caused a total wipe of the Kittens/Riot raid.

The second video provides additional corroboration for this sequence of events.

At 1:21, Klaz is seen coming up the ramp
At 1:24 a green drake can be seen following Klaz up
At 1:28, Klaz can be seen casting a spell
At roughly 1:30 the drake can be seen changing direction, to move towards triples.
At 2:53, as the first several drakes are reaching the top of the ramp, Klazdaxthun can be seen casting a new spell (feign death)
Less than two seconds later a new aggro message from the green drake is observed, evidencing that Klazdaxthun was the only player on the drake’s aggro table.

While all videos contribute to our described fact pattern, the third video is the smoking gun. It provides the exact evidence that many Vanquish asked for: footage of Klaz bringing and feigning the kite onto our raid. Klaz stands with drakes incoming, then Klaz feigns death and new aggro messages go out.

Taken together, these three videos show a clear picture of the sequence of events. Klaz was dirty when he came up the ramp initially, and feigned death. He later stood up, causing the mobs which were still aggro on him, as well as mobs in the assist range of those mobs, to move towards his position. Klaz feigns death again, this time with several drakes in line of sight and within aggro range of the Kittens/Riot raid, and new aggro messages go out when he does so, evidencing he was the only player on the aggro table of the mobs. Equally important, no one was killed by the train prior to new aggro messages going out when they reached the top of the ramp - because the only player on the aggro table was Klaz, and he had completed his cast of feign death at this time. Klaz then is hit by an AoE, breaking his feign and causing all the drakes to turn in his direction. When he is killed, new aggro messages from multiple mobs all go out at once, showing that Klaz was the sole player on their hate lists. Klazdaxthun was the clear and unambiguous source of the train which wiped out the Riot/Kittens raid.

The only defense offered by Vanquish is that somehow, a member or members of the Riot/Kittens raid achieved aggro on the mobs at some point prior to this train. Vanquish has no evidence of this, and our evidence reveals a clear fact pattern that negates their defense. They’re reasoning is faulty because the trash mobs at the base of the ramp reset, and the only mobs which could have been close enough to the raid at the top of doubles ramp, were all fully reset during the course of this set of events. These mobs were only re-aggroed to assist the returning Vulak guards, which had not cleared agro on Klaz yet because he had not /q’d out. Thus, they aggroed when Klaz stood up.

At best, Klaz made an error in judgment because he thought the guards had already reset. At worst, Klaz intentionally brought seven flurry drakes and a number of trash mobs on top of a competing raid force. Either way - this is a textbook definition of a Q2: Raid interference and a “screwup” and requires concessions (Q4).

Vanquish Did Not Offer A Pause, Concession or an Uncontested Attempt (Q3)

When we approached Vanquish leadership about the matter, they refused to consider our claims, and insisted that we play on rather than review any evidence or entertain any discussion. We view this as acting in bad faith and against the expectations of CSR to work through problems as they happen. Following our subsequent rushed engage, Vanquish leaders claimed they “gave us a free shot.” However Q3 does not specify that a “free shot” is a substitute for a full concession. In the above communications Nibblewitz notes that the conversation is continuing an hour after the event - as if the time lapsed excuses their raid disruption.

Vanquish did not offer a pause, or free attempt, and continued the race to Vulak. Given the severity of the train - a full raid wipe, of a raid nowhere near any of the moving parts of the trainaway, kite, or fight itself - this should have been an easy concession to make. Vanquish’s refusal to discuss the matter is a violation of Q4, which instructs guilds to work together to resolve raid disputes.

We fear that Vanquish will continue to break raid rules if they are not held accountable to them as written. If they are not held accountable through the petition process, it is unlikely they will reconsider taking responsibility when they make mistakes in the future. We all make mistakes, but guild relations and the raid scene will deteriorate if folks do not take responsibility for raid interference.

Vanquish Leadership Should Be Held Accountable For Their Failure To Act In Good Faith

Kittens Who Say Meow and Riot regret having to write this petition. We worry that when our guilds refuse to act in good faith, more and more petitions will be created, creating more work for the staff. However, Vanquish refused to respond to our evidence, said “play on” in real time, and gave us no other pathway to enforceme very clear and specific server rules they violated. Whether we had 27 minutes or 27 hours after their train to recover - the written rules call for concessions that are not time based. Moving the bar on the rules is not up to Vanquish to decide. In fact, we all must abide by the letter of the rules as written, or else there will be no clarity on the server ruleset whatsoever.

Conclusion

Vanquish is a very talented guild and has successfully pulled off the kiting strategy in the past. However, that strategy comes with risks of wiping other raid forces when the train/kite gets out of control. Unfortunately, in this instance, Vanquish failed on Vulak and subsequently wiped Kittens & Riot with their train. Kittens/Riot kept its distance in order to avoid interfering with their engage in any way. When Vanquish trainers manipulating the trash mobs brought them partially up the ramp, calls for a cycle camp were made out of an abundance of caution, but were not necessary, as was confirmed when everything was reset (Video 1, 1:02). Kittens/Riot did not have agro because mobs were not in line of sight of the raid due to the ramp, and also because as they were already aggro on a player no other players could get mere proximity aggro. Riot/Kittens gave Vanquish all the needed space to perform their attempt, and did not interfere. Whether by coincidence or by intention, our respect for their engage was met with a devastating train that interfered with our raid, slowing down our imminent attempt. They successfully forced a hurried recovery and by continuing to compete for the mob, they rushed our second attempt. Vanquish took no action at the time of the train or afterward to express regret or contrition for interfering with our raid. Since Vanquish refuses to take responsibility, and since Riot/KWSM have no power to make Vanquish follow the rules, we implore CSR to take whatever action you see fit.

k9quaint

06-26-2021, 04:39 PM

Triggered snowflake mewlings

There there wittle neckbeard. Don't cry.

Arvan

06-26-2021, 04:41 PM

https://i.imgur.com/KR8zSH1.png

Samoht

06-26-2021, 05:08 PM

Q3 for refusal to acknowledge mistake; Q4 for refusal to discuss alleged raid infractions in real time during the encounter

This is the most LOL part. It took them 4 days to provide any meaningful evidence. Did they expect Vanquish to just not kill anything for 4 days while they figured out how to upload their fraps?

Bardp1999

06-26-2021, 05:49 PM

I would suspend both guilds for not being able to play nice

Loke

06-26-2021, 06:36 PM

Riot petitions are usually pretty over the top as it is, but this has to be the most melodramatic petition ever submitted. Jesus... who wrote that?

Grumph

06-26-2021, 07:05 PM

Riot petitions are usually pretty over the top as it is, but this has to be the most melodramatic petition ever submitted. Jesus... who wrote that?

Posted by Jutebox in UN.

By my reading follows his writing style as well.

Yinein

06-26-2021, 07:35 PM

Imagine writing this and thinking you are the good guys. Austismspeaks.org

Boptop

06-26-2021, 07:47 PM

get a life and go outside

greasemonk

06-26-2021, 08:00 PM

Al Gore did this. If he had not created the internet, none of you fucks would need Jesus so badly.

k9quaint

06-26-2021, 08:56 PM

Is Grumph posting from France?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh5y1q-MDl0&t=46s

Why won't Straiker delete?

Nexii

06-26-2021, 09:05 PM

Imagine writing this and thinking you are the good guys. Austismspeaks.org

Imagine thinking it's fine to train other guilds. Vanquish has invented their own ruleset.

This meta is definitely the most autistic though. They need to bring back exclusive locks.

Yinein

06-26-2021, 09:19 PM

Imagine thinking it's fine to train other guilds. Vanquish has invented their own ruleset.

This meta is definitely the most autistic though. They need to bring back exclusive locks.

Imagine thinking anyone cares either way in a 22 year old video game. There's 0 reason to write a 100 page report to tattle on your competition except drugs and/or autism.

Kohedron

06-26-2021, 09:21 PM

Imagine writing that and feeling good about yourself

Samoht

06-26-2021, 09:26 PM

Imagine thinking it's fine to train other guilds. Vanquish has invented their own ruleset.

This meta is definitely the most autistic though. They need to bring back exclusive locks.

Imagine trying to punish an entire guild for the actions of a single player.

Yall must be starved for pixels.

Nexii

06-26-2021, 09:37 PM

Imagine thinking anyone cares either way in a 22 year old video game. There's 0 reason to write a 100 page report to tattle on your competition except drugs and/or autism.

Well that's where we're at. A couple of man-children with fragile bruised egos making the raid scene overall pretty terrible for everyone. Normal people would just concede and move on.

Cecily

06-26-2021, 09:45 PM

Imagine Nexii nuzzled up next to you.

Arvan

06-26-2021, 09:54 PM

Imagine trying to punish an entire guild for the actions of a single player.

Yall must be starved for pixels.

You backpedaled pretty quickly from chanting there's no evidence! To chanting Lone Actor! lol pathetic cheaters

Twochain

06-26-2021, 10:00 PM

You backpedaled pretty quickly from chanting there's no evidence! To chanting Lone Actor! lol pathetic cheaters

I don't think one person doing something kinda dumb is cheating.

Also ya'll post a 2013 detoxx meme and he has 0 to do with any of this lmfao

Arvan

06-26-2021, 10:02 PM

I don't think one person doing something kinda dumb is cheating.

Also ya'll post a 2013 detoxx meme and he has 0 to do with any of this lmfao

Woosh

Samoht

06-26-2021, 10:23 PM

You backpedaled pretty quickly from chanting there's no evidence! To chanting Lone Actor! lol pathetic cheaters

To be fair, the evidence was withheld until Wednesday for whatever reason. I'm not to blame for that. You should check in with your leadership.

k9quaint

06-26-2021, 10:38 PM

To be fair, the evidence was withheld until Wednesday for whatever reason. I'm not to blame for that. You should check in with your leadership.

You guys didn't think you were caught until Wednesday.
Now you are hoping for the "hard time of year" + lone actor treatment.

Should be fun to read the petition reply :D

Fammaden

06-26-2021, 10:50 PM

Consider Teal.

Detoxx

06-26-2021, 11:09 PM

These Kittens folks want to post a meme of my cursing while they literally meow at each other over discord as 35 year old men.

Nexii

06-26-2021, 11:15 PM

Page 3 and we're already onto furry bashing. This thread has promise.

titanshub

06-26-2021, 11:17 PM

These Kittens folks want to post a meme of my cursing while they literally meow at each other over discord as 35 year old men.

Things I'm not ashamed of for 500 Alex.

Angerclaw

06-26-2021, 11:26 PM

These Kittens folks want to post a meme of my cursing while they literally meow at each other over discord as 35 year old men.

Please say this isn't true. Huge cringe.

Cecily

06-26-2021, 11:30 PM

Page 3 and we're already onto furry bashing. This thread has promise.
Page 2.

Nirgon

06-26-2021, 11:56 PM

This kind of sickness could only be found on the beta box

Give it a rest already, 15 year trilogy server isnt classic bros

Grumph

06-27-2021, 12:04 AM

Well the <Riot> and <Kittens who say Ngar> alliance took a valiant shot at first engage on Vulak.
Live reports on the ground say they proceeds to immediately train trips alway.
Casualty list for other guilds (who were on the tracks - they’re fault!) is currently tbd.
Stay tuned for live updates!

Arvan

06-27-2021, 12:15 AM

This kind of sickness could only be found on the beta box

Give it a rest already, 15 year trilogy server isnt classic bros

LOL guy on the /list server is quipping about classic

Grumph

06-27-2021, 12:17 AM

We’re now getting reports that ironic tells we’re sent to Klazdaxthun just moments before the world record petition questers decided to blatantly and maliciously train Vanquish - delaying their imminent engage.

15102

Stay tuned for a full report at 9!

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 12:18 AM

LOL guy on the /list server is quipping about classic

yes they automated GM enforcement of the legacy items because the pve community is mostly pure garbage, a shame

Arvan

06-27-2021, 12:30 AM

yes they automated GM enforcement of the legacy items because the pve community is mostly pure garbage, a shame

Sorry about your more unclassic box

Grumph

06-27-2021, 12:37 AM

This just in.
In an ultimate act of bitter double speak.
Riot and Kittens announced they were conceding Vulak - at 0%.

Folks you can’t make up a better story than the one we’re witnessing live tonight!

Grumph

06-27-2021, 12:51 AM

Does an ounce of self awareness even exist?

In a stunning display. Jutebox goes so far as to accuse Vanquish of crying wolf.

Mere minutes before himself announcing his guild’s concession!

15103

This is hard for me to say (literally a tongue twister).

But.

Is is possible to be guilty of crying Wolf via cry Wolf accusation?

Croco

06-27-2021, 01:05 AM

Samoht

06-27-2021, 01:09 AM

Juicy-B living rent free in Grumph's head.

I got 10 pages say it aint rent free.

Gatordash

06-27-2021, 01:15 AM

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 01:16 AM

Sorry about your more unclassic box

This was literally the GMs saying the pve community is dishonest garbage in case you had trouble figuring it out. Blue had so many bugs (that the scum on it defended from me, unsuccessfully) like invis pulling that it is beyond tainted.

No comparison.

May Allah bring dark days and disaster upon you.

Arvan

06-27-2021, 01:22 AM

This was literally the GMs saying the pve community is dishonest garbage in case you had trouble figuring it out. Blue had so many bugs (that the scum on it defended from me, unsuccessfully) like invis pulling that it is beyond tainted.

No comparison.

May Allah bring dark days and disaster upon you.

Thats some major copium you are smoking

Horza

06-27-2021, 01:26 AM

Nirgon is just still upset about staff disbanding his racist parody guild.

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 01:35 AM

Naw I mad them cry uncle. Mission accomplished.

Croco

06-27-2021, 01:40 AM

So similar scenarios happened 2 weeks in a row? The difference being Kittens+Riot failed on their Vulak attempt post train, and Vanquish succeeded. LOL funny if Kittens+Riot really conceded at 0%. It will be interesting to see how the GMs rule on this. I'm wagering on a ban on all 3 guilds. Kittens should get extra time though for writing a 10 page petition that could have been summarized as, "we got trained at Vulak then had to rush our engage, here's the video".

Nothing about the situations were similar. Last week the kriot raid force got trained by a quish necro at doubles, where no other member of their raid force was, and where none of our raid force left from since we all got cothed to there and quish engaged vulak before we were fully done cothing/setting up.

This week kriot went first and someone trained back to the triples hallway during our botched engage. The train killed no one? A few people? Unclear who trained and who was affected. 7 minutes later quish engaged and successfully killed vulak and kriot conceded out of an abundance of caution somewhere around 5% because in the moment we couldn't rule out that it was us that trained and unlike quish we do what we can to address our mistakes on the field.

This just in.
In an ultimate act of bitter double speak.
Riot and Kittens announced they were conceding Vulak - at 0%.

Folks you can’t make up a better story than the one we’re witnessing live tonight!

Imagine bitching about a guild conceding a raid mob at sub 10% when your guild literally wrote the book on it.

I got 10 pages say it aint rent free.

Yeah turns out when you want to write a well explained and thorough petition it can take more than 1 page. I guess when you're in a guild that regularly writes single page petitions/defenses can be summed up with "Lol riot sucks and they wronged us", or "nu'uh! they did it not us!" then a well written petition can be intimidating. DM me if you need any help understanding all if it and I can go over it with you. Happy to help.

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 01:44 AM

I hope whatever beloved janny is up reading that 10 pager appreciates DMO giving these kind of tards their own piping hot dose of brain AIDS.

Cannot imagine doing it for the platinum peanuts.

Loke

06-27-2021, 02:03 AM

Samoht

06-27-2021, 02:23 AM

Yeah turns out when you want to write a well explained and thorough petition it can take more than 1 page.

And if you want to pad your petition with immaterial nonsense and accusations of things that didn't even happen, then you get to 10 pages. That shit goes beyond thorough, man. It's pure idiocy. The ramblings of a mad man.

Clearmind

06-27-2021, 02:25 AM

Long story short Kriot trained themselves on both situations and also failed killing Vulak. :(

RevSaber

06-27-2021, 03:17 AM

Howabout de-root the mobs

RevSaber

06-27-2021, 03:21 AM

Also, if i was staff and received some shit book like that... id fuckin ban your whole guild
Comon gm's have some self respect!

Nocht

06-27-2021, 03:36 AM

I'm surprised they haven't banned all these poopsock guilds that repeatedly QQ over these 20 year old pixels.

Croco

06-27-2021, 03:49 AM

You didn't concede out of "an abundance of caution" or to "address your mistakes in the field." You guys were still setting up a CH chain in OOC... you conceded only when it was clear we weren't going to wipe.

Nah sorry we don't operate how you guys do and have done even before you merged. We took the time to review fraps and couldn't determine if we trained or not and felt the standup thing to do was immediately concede after reviewing the footage. Just so happened to line up with vulak being around 5%. Push more conspiracy theories though. You guys are good at building narratives.

Croco

06-27-2021, 03:51 AM

Also, if i was staff and received some shit book like that... id fuckin ban your whole guild
Comon gm's have some self respect!

You mean the same staff that have literally told us in the past that more information is better than less and to give as much detail as possible in our petitions? That same staff?

Twochain

06-27-2021, 04:50 AM

Nothing about the situations were similar. Last week the kriot raid force got trained by a quish necro at doubles, where no other member of their raid force was, and where none of our raid force left from since we all got cothed to there and quish engaged vulak before we were fully done cothing/setting up.

This week kriot went first and someone trained back to the triples hallway during our botched engage. The train killed no one? A few people? Unclear who trained and who was affected. 7 minutes later quish engaged and successfully killed vulak and kriot conceded out of an abundance of caution somewhere around 5% because in the moment we couldn't rule out that it was us that trained and unlike quish we do what we can to address our mistakes on the field.

Imagine bitching about a guild conceding a raid mob at sub 10% when your guild literally wrote the book on it.

Yeah turns out when you want to write a well explained and thorough petition it can take more than 1 page. I guess when you're in a guild that regularly writes single page petitions/defenses can be summed up with "Lol riot sucks and they wronged us", or "nu'uh! they did it not us!" then a well written petition can be intimidating. DM me if you need any help understanding all if it and I can go over it with you. Happy to help.

the train killed a decent amount of people. The big difference is that half of our raid force ran somewhere and camped. I lived at PoM

Nexii

06-27-2021, 06:33 AM

I don't think one person doing something kinda dumb is cheating.

Also ya'll post a 2013 detoxx meme and he has 0 to do with any of this lmfao

He's still a bigot you don't have to worry about that

Rang

06-27-2021, 09:51 AM

https://i.imgur.com/qvsjCqh.gif

supercalif

06-27-2021, 10:12 AM

Nah sorry we don't operate how you guys do and have done even before you merged. We took the time to review fraps and couldn't determine if we trained or not and felt the standup thing to do was immediately concede after reviewing the footage. Just so happened to line up with vulak being around 5%. Push more conspiracy theories though. You guys are good at building narratives.

How convenient! Let’s not put the shoe on the other foot then, but it doesn’t fit. Where is Cinderella?

Grumph

06-27-2021, 10:26 AM

He's still a bigot you don't have to worry about that

Didn’t you quit Riot because they were bigots, then rejoin them like 2 days later?

And right now…

Aren’t you teaming up with <Kittens Who Say Ngar> ?

Maybe it’s not for me to say, but I think you should consider giving Detoxx the same Grace you’ve offered to your current compatriots.

Nexii

06-27-2021, 10:35 AM

Didn’t you quit Riot because they were bigots, then rejoin them like 2 days later?

And right now…

Aren’t you teaming up with <Kittens Who Say Ngar> ?

Maybe it’s not for me to say, but I think you should consider giving Detoxx the same Grace you’ve offered to your current compatriots.

They kicked the bigot, who then was accepted with open arms by your guild.

matticas

06-27-2021, 10:41 AM

imagine seven pages of totally unimaginative imagining.

Samoht

06-27-2021, 10:45 AM

Didn’t you quit Riot because they were bigots, then rejoin them like 2 days later?

Nexii rejoined Riot because they announced bag limits, and it's too convenient to pass up the free loot.

Sometimes you just gotta set aside your morals for pixels.

Grumph

06-27-2021, 11:01 AM

They kicked the bigot, who then was accepted with open arms by your guild.

So you forgave Riot. And tacitly forgive Kittens.

And still you choose to hold a grudge against Detoxx?

May I add one more thing: the offerer gains from forgiveness as much as the recipient.

Because the bitterness and resentment you hold on to. Holds back onto you.

Nexii

06-27-2021, 11:04 AM

So you forgave Riot. And tacitly forgive Kittens.

And still you choose to hold a grudge against Detoxx?

May I add one more thing: the offerer gains from forgiveness as much as the recipient.

Because the bitterness and resentment you hold on to. Holds back onto you.

One doesn't need to look further than this thread to know that he hasn't changed a bit.

No one cares about Ngar only you

ArbiterBlixen

06-27-2021, 11:15 AM

Nexii is still guilded with this bigot, unless there is a non-bigot reason that having balls in your mouth is insulting.

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 11:25 AM

Again, Nexii labels me a bigot because I swear? In some old ass post from 7 years ago all the while it oly took 2 free Vulak concessions from Fr/AG to help her overlook Riots bigotry for a chance at some free Vulak gear.

She is also still guilded with a toon that is a Dwarf Female with a beard named Inbetween Genders as well as Tuinda.

Everyone is a bigot in Nexii's world but the truth of the matter is I don't, and 99% of normal people don't, give a shit what your life choices are. You like to seek the attention by calling people bigots and, in some weird psychological twist, hope this makes people accept you.

Get over yourself. No. One. Cares.

Viscere

06-27-2021, 11:34 AM

Nexii making nazi jokes talking bout bigots

k lol

Nexii

06-27-2021, 11:36 AM

"Life choices" lol, as if being trans were a choice

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 11:39 AM

"Life choices" lol, as if being trans were a choice

And there it is! Taking someone who literally just said they don't give a shit and turning it into some sort of "I'm offended by this one thing they said but completely ignore the fact that they stated they do not care."

Isn't that what you want? Don't you want people to just not care and let you be you? Because it seems the only one who won't let that happen is YOU

Nexii

06-27-2021, 11:41 AM

You believe I choose to be transgender to get attention, lol

And are offended by non-binaries existing like Inbetween, lol

Samoht

06-27-2021, 11:42 AM

You believe I choose to be transgender to get attention, lol

What you do choose is to flaunt it. Nobody cares.

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 11:44 AM

You literally came into a thread that had nothing to do with transgenders and started calling everyone bigots.

You want this attention, you're delusional.

Nexii

06-27-2021, 11:49 AM

Loke

06-27-2021, 11:50 AM

ITT Nexii unironically accuses others of being insecure... :rolleyes:

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 11:54 AM

I'm stating why guild relations are terrible between Vanquish and Riot, it's 100% relevant. You could simply choose to be a better person (and most of the Vanquish officers) but you prefer to be this way because of your own insecurities.

Lol guild relations have nothing to do with you or transgenders. You just wanted to come in here and railroad this thread into some pity party for poor old Nexii.

You should probably seek therapy.

Nexii

06-27-2021, 12:01 PM

You were turned down from Riot for frequently uttering slurs to the officer crew. And now your life's mission is to vanquish Riot

Sad really. Is it so hard to be nice?

imsorryGMs

06-27-2021, 12:18 PM

"Life choices" lol, as if being trans were a choice

Lul

Cecily

06-27-2021, 12:25 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PeoNHa0.jpg

Nexii

06-27-2021, 12:29 PM

No regrets really, they wanted two different tags that allude to fascism but were turned down by the GMs.

Also <Holocaust> was a GM-approved guild on red server for many years. I suppose times have changed.

Cecily

06-27-2021, 12:31 PM

Nexii

06-27-2021, 12:35 PM

Yeah they did. Germany lost btw, retard.

The irony wasn't lost on me. Germany lost because they tried to take on everyone (like Vanquish, a guild with no allies or friends)

Cecily

06-27-2021, 12:40 PM

Please be nice to my friend here.
https://i.imgur.com/QAjhXBb.gif

Loke

06-27-2021, 12:49 PM

The irony wasn't lost on me. Germany lost because they tried to take on everyone (like Vanquish, a guild with no allies or friends)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers

Bad at p99 history. Bad at actual history.

Drakborn

06-27-2021, 12:53 PM

Samoht

06-27-2021, 12:54 PM

nexii left riot: 1/28/21
nexii rejoined riot: 2/2/21
galach annouces bag limits: 4/9/21

turns out, you're an idiot.

Well, I didn't expect any white knights for Nexii. Still fewer than Juicebox got, tho.

Drakborn

06-27-2021, 12:57 PM

Well, I didn't expect any white knights for Nexii. Still fewer than Juicebox got, tho.

not sure how correcting your [WAY OFF] dates is white knighting, but okay. crazy how you responded to this in literally 60 seconds or less. get a life nerd

Hotel

06-27-2021, 01:02 PM

These Kittens folks want to post a meme of my cursing while they literally meow at each other over discord as 35 year old men.

Samoht

06-27-2021, 01:02 PM

not sure how correcting your [WAY OFF] dates is white knighting, but okay. crazy how you responded to this in literally 60 seconds or less. get a life nerd

Did you just do the very thing you're making fun of me for? I just don't understand the hypocrisy of you idiots.

What do you expect from white knighting Nexii, anyway? Do you get to be on top in the fur pile next time?

Drakborn

06-27-2021, 01:06 PM

Did you just do the very thing you're making fun of me for? I just don't understand the hypocrisy of you idiots.

What do you expect from white knighting Nexii, anyway? Do you get to be on top in the fur pile next time?

yeah, turns out i was looking at a thread i literally just posted in. whereas you were looking at a thread you havent posted in in hours.

get a life nerd.

Cecily

06-27-2021, 01:09 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PeoNHa0.jpg

Samoht

06-27-2021, 01:09 PM

yeah, turns out i was looking at a thread i literally just posted in. whereas you were looking at a thread you havent posted in in hours.

get a life nerd.

Are you STILL responding within seconds and telling ME to get a life?

Goddamn, I just can't understand this.

What makes you so much more nobler, mr knight?

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 01:13 PM

nexii left riot: 1/28/21
nexii rejoined riot: 2/2/21
galach annouces bag limits: 4/9/21

turns out, you're an idiot.

You're an idiot. Why don't you look up the date that we conceded 2 Vulaks? I'll do it for you:

Cecily

06-27-2021, 01:14 PM

https://i.imgur.com/KR8zSH1.png

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 01:14 PM

2 days is all it took to break her moral compass

Nexii

06-27-2021, 01:22 PM

Re-joined days before any concedes were official, yep. Until a concede is in the UN, raid concerns mean nothing. As FRAG rescinded Lavittz's concede, it wasn't looking very likely.

I left with more DKP than Kabull still cries about, and didn't expect a re-invite FWIW. Some things are more important than pixels and it's sad you just don't get it. I told your guild at the time I wouldn't join for any amount of DKP and that stands true today.

Drakborn

06-27-2021, 01:22 PM

Nexii rejoined Riot because they announced bag limits, and it's too convenient to pass up the free loot.

Sometimes you just gotta set aside your morals for pixels.

nexii left riot: 1/28/21
nexii rejoined riot: 2/2/21
galach annouces bag limits: 4/9/21

turns out, you're an idiot.

You're an idiot. Why don't you look up the date that we conceded 2 Vulaks? I'll do it for you:

Wtf are you talking about? No one mentioned vulak but you, you ignorant fuck.

Nibblewitz

06-27-2021, 01:23 PM

Do you want to be a competitive man-child or an anti-Semitic cat-child?

Tough choice.

Jayzeus

06-27-2021, 01:24 PM

what is this, meowschwitz?

Hotel

06-27-2021, 01:26 PM

Do you want to be a competitive man-child or an anti-Semitic cat-child?

Tough choice.

Samoht

06-27-2021, 01:30 PM

I told your guild at the time I wouldn't join for any amount of DKP and that stands true today.

I'm sure they were offering...

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 01:32 PM

You play EverQuest like a girl

Haaaaaaaahahahaha

Nexii

06-27-2021, 01:35 PM

Do you want to be a competitive man-child or an anti-Semitic cat-child?

Tough choice.

Learn some history backstabber. Gays and trans were killed in the Holocaust too.

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 01:39 PM

This is my entire personality

Horza

06-27-2021, 01:50 PM

You're an idiot. Why don't you look up the date that we conceded 2 Vulaks? I'll do it for you:

Still delivering pizzas for a living?

Pulgasari

06-27-2021, 02:05 PM

What is garlic? :confused:

Detoxx

06-27-2021, 02:36 PM

Still delivering pizzas for a living?

No and I probably made more money delivering pizza than you you now.. Good try though.

Thorgrimm

06-27-2021, 02:43 PM

"Life choices" lol, as if being trans were a choice

Biologically speaking you aren't born that way

DNA Matters

nostalgiaquest

06-27-2021, 02:52 PM

Hideousclaw

06-27-2021, 03:06 PM

When I was delivering pizzas in college I think I was making anywhere from 15-20 bucks an hour. 6.25 per hour paycheck, 1.5 per delivery, and all the tips. Adds up pretty nicely. And was nice to always have a pocket full of cash. Also fun to get random bong rips as tips.

Was a pretty sweet gig, and with all the phone/car maps available now it’s gotta be much easier. Back in my day I had a Nokia brick and a sticky note with mapquest directions I pulled off the office computer.

When I delivered I had to use one of those grid maps to kinda find where streets were in town. Did it enough to where I had the town kinda memorized by block (A17, G7, etc). Was a fun gig, lots of really wild and interesting encounter.

ArbiterBlixen

06-27-2021, 03:27 PM

Learn some history backstabber. Gays and trans were killed in the Holocaust too.

Knowing this history, you felt your best option was to compare the Nazi's with a guild in a video game?

hotkarlmarxbros

06-27-2021, 03:33 PM

Knowing this history, you felt your best option was to compare the Nazi's with a guild in a video game?

Such a crazy concept right. Not like when the merger was being negotiated the name Blitzkrieg wasn't a serious contender in names or anything. Led by Furoar no less lol.

RevSaber

06-27-2021, 03:34 PM

You believe I choose to be transgender to get attention, lol

And are offended by non-binaries existing like Inbetween, lol

Being a cat isnt a gender, just FYI

RevSaber

06-27-2021, 03:35 PM

For sustinance's sake.... Can we please teach our children biology and not leave that to skools plz.

Horza

06-27-2021, 03:36 PM

Such a crazy concept right. Not like when the merger was being negotiated the name Blitzkrieg wasn't a serious contender in names or anything. Led by Furoar no less lol.

hn1VxaMEjRU

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 03:38 PM

Someone's got an inferiority complex

ArbiterBlixen

06-27-2021, 03:40 PM

Such a crazy concept right. Not like when the merger was being negotiated the name Blitzkrieg wasn't a serious contender in names or anything. Led by Furoar no less lol.

You know the word is spelled führer. I don't see you up in arms about Ngar just cause they sound the same.

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 03:42 PM

The guild that got ass hurt about me FTEing a vindi participates in actual veiled racism?

Horza

06-27-2021, 03:44 PM

The guild that got ass hurt about me FTEing a vindi participates in actual veiled racism?

How many guilds have staff disbanded for their members' blatant racism?

TripleLegit

06-27-2021, 03:47 PM

Came here for some material to read while pooping… 10/10 I waited a whole two minutes after being done to wipe because I was knee deep in this glorious work of art. Keep up the good work folks!

Grumph

06-27-2021, 03:51 PM

what is this, meowschwitz?

WOW

Jayzeus

06-27-2021, 03:54 PM

WOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrRMchL_ctg

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 03:54 PM

How many guilds have staff disbanded for their members' blatant racism?

0

Phil used SNL tier references to a Japanese guild one time.

Imagine spamming Nazi stuff all over RNF because you're mad that Detox is a superior being in Norrath.

RevSaber

06-27-2021, 04:21 PM

Pretending to be a cat isnt a gender

RevSaber

06-27-2021, 04:28 PM

"just cuz u stick feathers up your ass - it does not make you a chicken" -fight club

Danth

06-27-2021, 04:37 PM

--Without reading the thread:

A 10 page petition might seem strange on the outside looking in, but it wasn't that long ago the staff themselves presented a ~15 page document as an example of a well done petition. Maybe having everything all in one spot saves time in the long run?

Danth

Horza

06-27-2021, 04:55 PM

0

Phil used SNL tier references to a Japanese guild one time.

Imagine spamming Nazi stuff all over RNF because you're mad that Detox is a superior being in Norrath.

Did they not break up your digital blackface guild?

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 04:59 PM

We made them cry uncle. Spam some more swashies about it.

*Pours a drink and laughs*

Pulgasari

06-27-2021, 05:07 PM

Hotel

06-27-2021, 05:12 PM

TripleLegit

06-27-2021, 05:15 PM

I think we are getting sidetracked with actual serious comments about the incident. Can we get back to ranting and flaming and name calling please. Some of us are trying to be entertained.

Bardp1999

06-27-2021, 06:01 PM

Did they not break up your digital blackface guild?

The nuked Nirgons black face guild and also his anti semite guild.

0/2 - yikes

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 06:20 PM

One person, a known liberal (Bestow) made swashies with corpses for unknown reasons.

Again, branding an entire guild for one idiot (that wasn't me).

Both guilds were created by staff and heavily dominated. Lots of tears and begging for bans to the point staff couldn't take it anymore.

Man up.

Horza

06-27-2021, 06:30 PM

a known liberal

Disgusting.

Nirgon

06-27-2021, 07:09 PM

Yaw and Holocaust was immediately reformed as Empire would go on to wake the Sleeper and win the box. Wasn't my guild, I just played in it.

remen

06-27-2021, 08:51 PM

That 10 page petition could have been summed up in one sentence:

"Our Oils of Fennin Ro dind't work, therefore we want free Vulaks."

myrddraal

06-27-2021, 10:42 PM

Remember when Freedom and AG wrote a -30- page petition about a Phara Dar and it was ruled it wasnt a stall? Fucking irony.

Cecily

06-27-2021, 10:52 PM

Very impressed you guys can write that much for no IRL benefit whatsoever.

remen

06-28-2021, 01:35 AM

Remember when Freedom and AG wrote a -30- page petition about a Phara Dar and it was ruled it wasnt a stall? Fucking irony.

Just because they did something ridiculous doesn't make the ridiculous thing you guys did less ridiculous.

Hideousclaw

06-28-2021, 01:36 AM

Remember when Freedom and AG wrote a -30- page petition about a Phara Dar and it was ruled it wasnt a stall? Fucking irony.

Think you added a 0 there after the 3

wrighter00

06-28-2021, 01:52 AM

Welp, these threads lately take things to a new level of creepy.

And here this whole time I thought the "Furor" names were wanna be knock offs of the OG Fires of Heaven leader.

myrddraal

06-28-2021, 06:30 AM

Think you added a 0 there after the 3

slight hyperbole, it was 15. Remember? https://docs.google.com/document/d/174YofhKKExpBNFil8EUT-_YdEEoTB-xklY0agqngGBU/edit?usp=sharing

Toxigen

06-28-2021, 07:37 AM

liked and subscribed

Maschenny

06-28-2021, 08:02 AM

slight hyperbole, it was 15. Remember? https://docs.google.com/document/d/174YofhKKExpBNFil8EUT-_YdEEoTB-xklY0agqngGBU/edit?usp=sharing

Word count was less than half too. Pictures take up space wow!

Nexii

06-28-2021, 08:10 AM

Welp, these threads lately take things to a new level of creepy.

And here this whole time I thought the "Furor" names were wanna be knock offs of the OG Fires of Heaven leader.

I mean seeing oneself as the re-incarnation of another neckbeard nerd is pretty cringe too. Especially one famous for being a narcissistic, hate-filled whiner that EQ wasn't made exactly how he thought it should be.

wrighter00

06-28-2021, 09:48 AM

I mean seeing oneself as the re-incarnation of another neckbeard nerd is pretty cringe too. Especially one famous for being a narcissistic, hate-filled whiner that EQ wasn't made exactly how he thought it should be.

I hear that. It's funny how much cross server EQ drama there is, and yet it all reaches back to Fires members or things others didn't get to do first.

Like even this server has some cut rate stars who keep coming back for relevancy. Alas, the server is always about them. No matter how many derailed threads and raids, let's try to throw the shade on Nexii. Haha

wrighter00

06-28-2021, 09:50 AM

I checked out the og Fires of Heaven forum upon joining the p99 FoH. It was a bit of a dumpster fire. Even for old guildies

Hotel

06-28-2021, 10:05 AM

I checked out the og Fires of Heaven forum upon joining the p99 FoH. It was a bit of a dumpster fire. Even for old guildies

no one cares

wrighter00

06-28-2021, 10:19 AM

no one cares

Well, that's for true.

Toxigen

06-28-2021, 10:23 AM

Nexii left Riot as a power move to get me gkicked over a forum post taken out of context that had nothing to do with her.

Being the good little social justice warriors that the core of Riot are...I was kicked with zero discussion (turned out to be a huge blessing, thanks Nexii).

Victim complex op.

*barks*

Nexii

06-28-2021, 10:32 AM

You made the post (Feb 1) after I left (January 29), good try though.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 10:37 AM

[Thu Jan 28 17:58:56 2021] You are no longer a member of Riot.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3252631&postcount=6

Cecily

06-28-2021, 10:38 AM

A grammar nazi is a pedant who compulsively criticizes or corrects people's grammar mistakes, typos, misspellings, and other errors in speech or writing.

Horza

06-28-2021, 11:49 AM

strongNpretty

06-28-2021, 12:12 PM

Cecily

06-28-2021, 12:28 PM

I'm just here to call Nexii a Nazi.

strongNpretty

06-28-2021, 12:33 PM

I'm just here to call Nexii a Nazi.

Good Morning Cecily!

Yinein

06-28-2021, 01:40 PM

Cecily

06-28-2021, 01:58 PM

And yet he still maintains a positive and can do attitude! Morning Jeff!

wrighter00

06-28-2021, 02:05 PM

Every fucking day- Talky talky talky.... Same shit, over and over and over between the same guilds. You're all variants of the same fucking guild it seems at this point.

Somebody just make the new alpha guild and call it the TVA.. Talky talky talky.....

https://i.imgur.com/0n7nCTa.jpg

Everyone is so fickle and none of this makes sense. Believe it or not, lots of people say they remember "the community" when referring to Everquest. It's almost like raiding lost out to trying to prove you're better than everyone else. Only without PvP in EQ. So now we just have years of players who thought that "2-3 year run" was the best. Even though several MMOs and RPGs and EQ servers are out now and we can assume the same people beat lots of them under different circumstances.

strongNpretty

06-28-2021, 02:25 PM

This guy failed on all 3 servers. Hope that helps.

Try harder butthole.

strongNpretty

06-28-2021, 02:25 PM

And yet he still maintains a positive and can do attitude! Morning Jeff!

;)

karadin

06-28-2021, 02:26 PM

Nexii

06-28-2021, 02:32 PM

Nexii this didn't age well.

If you think my issue with your guild is this you're way off

karadin

06-28-2021, 02:34 PM

If you think my issue with your guild is this you're way off

Not sure what you mean really. You said "Imagine thinking it's fine to train other guilds."

KRiot has done that so many times and then did it again at Vulak a day after petitioning us for the same.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 02:54 PM

karadin

06-28-2021, 02:58 PM

certainly klaz's intentional train is a 1-for-1 comparison to you all running up with us as we attempted and failed to train away the mobs. definitely, in no way, was your guild pinging us in the UN a bad faith attempt, which was successful, into turning the screws because you felt like you could. of course, even now you are not 100% full of shit.

hope klaz enjoys the pnp suspension he ought to get for that train.

I died to your failed Vulak attempt. Many others did. It set our imminent attempt back in the same manner Klaz's train set yours back. It's apples to apples, whether you care to admit it or not. "Play on" seems like the best way to handle these situations without pinging CSRs. For the record, I believe both situations were handled appropriately.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:04 PM

Not sure what you mean really. You said "Imagine thinking it's fine to train other guilds."

KRiot has done that so many times and then did it again at Vulak a day after petitioning us for the same.

Vanquish is a guild that truly believes competing is more important than having an environment clear of racism and bigotry. It's sad really.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 03:07 PM

I died to your failed Vulak attempt. Many others did. It set our imminent attempt back in the same manner Klaz's train set yours back. It's apples to apples, whether you care to admit it or not. "Play on" seems like the best way to handle these situations without pinging CSRs. For the record, I believe both situations were handled appropriately.

lol you guys engaged vulak fewer than 10 minutes after crying wolf about it in the UN. If "play on" is the correct result, then why did your guild ping us and ask us to concede? If conceding is the right result, why didn't you concede when you trained us? more double standards from the "training isn't cheating" crowd.

Samoht

06-28-2021, 03:08 PM

Vanquish is a guild that truly believes competing is more important than having an environment clear of racism and bigotry. It's sad really.

If only we could be a space safe from animal sex fetishes and cry babies.

Arvan

06-28-2021, 03:08 PM

I died to your failed Vulak attempt. Many others did. It set our imminent attempt back in the same manner Klaz's train set yours back. It's apples to apples, whether you care to admit it or not. "Play on" seems like the best way to handle these situations without pinging CSRs. For the record, I believe both situations were handled appropriately.

You seem kind of slow so ill put into into simple terms for you - kittens/riot all stood on top of the doubles ramp far away from any vang train aggro. We were then trained by klaz who brought mobs onto us and fd’d

When you died the other day it was after vang ran down the trip ramps with us and got dirty on any mobs while our raid force moved up. Sounds like you trained yourselves.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:09 PM

If only we could be a space safe from animal sex fetishes and cry babies.

Safe space for trans bashers like Venice though

Samoht

06-28-2021, 03:11 PM

Safe space for trans bashers like Venice though

If you accuse everybody of hating them for what you are, then you're eventually going to find one. But if you continue your witch hunt, eventually people are going to start hating you for WHO you are, not WHAT you are.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:12 PM

I asked your guild to reconsider. They doubled down on the hate.

karadin

06-28-2021, 03:13 PM

Vanquish is a guild that truly believes competing is more important than having an environment clear of racism and bigotry. It's sad really.

You and I have been through this convo before, so I'll avoid the debate and just say that I believe you are wrong and terribly misguided with your point of view. If I ever spotted a racist/sexist/whatever comment that was clearly not in jest I would not hesitate to shut that shit down. I'm sorry you feel otherwise though and I'm glad you feel inclusiveness where you are.

Toxigen

06-28-2021, 03:20 PM

victim complex on full display here

karadin

06-28-2021, 03:25 PM

You seem kind of slow so ill put into into simple terms for you - kittens/riot all stood on top of the doubles ramp far away from any vang train aggro. We were then trained by klaz who brought mobs onto us and fd’d

When you died the other day it was after vang ran down the trip ramps with us and got dirty on any mobs while our raid force moved up. Sounds like you trained yourselves.

You're wrong though. Kriot players trained 4 way all the way up the ramp while failing to both control and announce the dropped train. Virtually our entire guild was still up at trips hall when this happened when Kriot pulled it over our camp and dropped it.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:26 PM

You and I have been through this convo before, so I'll avoid the debate and just say that I believe you are wrong and terribly misguided with your point of view. If I ever spotted a racist/sexist/whatever comment that was clearly not in jest I would not hesitate to shut that shit down. I'm sorry you feel otherwise though and I'm glad you feel inclusiveness where you are.

There's been many cases of it
- Monrezz quitting Vanquish after many players were bashing pictures of transgenders in Discord. Says a lot when an AM officer of 2 years can't stand a day of what it's like
- Detoxx slurring Keerarae's gender identity in the UN then giving a non-apology that he somehow didn't know despite it being 100% directed at being genderqueer
- Toxigen enough said lol
- Detoxx saying 'be closeted about one's personal life 'choices' despite being the server's biggest bragger about his IRL
- And more furry bashing, a mostly gay community which is why it gets hate

Your guild has a culture problem that goes to the top. I would rather see Vanquish mellow out and become like pretty much every other guild that's existed on P99. Rustle didn't tolerate this stuff, neither did AM or AWK. We're on year 6 Velious, no one gives a care about winning any longer.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 03:32 PM

You're wrong though. Kriot players trained 4 way all the way up the ramp while failing to both control and announce the dropped train. Virtually our entire guild was still up at trips hall when this happened when Kriot pulled it over our camp and dropped it.

still haven't answered earlier question. if play on was the correct result, then why did your guild ping and ask for concessions? if conceding was the right result, then why didn't your guild concede after klaz trained us the week prior?

Samoht

06-28-2021, 03:37 PM

- And more furry bashing, a mostly gay community which is why it gets hate

You're not hated for being gate. You're hated for forcing your gayness into EVERY SINGLE CONVERSATION.

Just like this one.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:37 PM

You're not hated for being gate. You're hated for forcing your gayness into EVERY SINGLE CONVERSATION.

Just like this one.

I'm not gay but thanks for the hot take

Samoht

06-28-2021, 03:39 PM

And virtually raping Detoxx in your gay fetish porn probably doesn't help your stance much, either.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:40 PM

And virtually raping Detoxx in your gay fetish porn probably doesn't help your stance much, either.

Does gay sex trigger you that much? Wow, I'm surprised

karadin

06-28-2021, 03:41 PM

still haven't answered earlier question. if play on was the correct result, then why did your guild ping and ask for concessions? if conceding was the right result, then why didn't your guild concede after klaz trained us the week prior?

Didn't see the question. Nobody asked Kriot for a concession, Furoar asked if Kriot will be conceding it. The point was to see if there was any consistency with the event that was petitioned just a day prior, and there wasn't. Play on prevailed in this case for Kriot.

Samoht

06-28-2021, 03:42 PM

Does gay sex trigger you that much? Wow, I'm surprised

So you think it's okay to publicly fantasize about anally raping people just because you don't like them?

That's not normal.

Bardp1999

06-28-2021, 03:44 PM

As a fellow RPG writer I support Nexii blindly. Any who disagrees can suck a fart out of my ass and get bent.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:46 PM

So you think it's okay to publicly fantasize about anally raping people just because you don't like them?

That's not normal.

I see context and literary interpretation isn't your strong suit. I was in AM at the time of said story.

Cecily

06-28-2021, 03:48 PM

It's not gay if it's your guild leader. Educate yourself, bigots.

Nibblewitz

06-28-2021, 03:49 PM

Like the fascists, logic isn't their strong suit.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 03:51 PM

Didn't see the question. Nobody asked Kriot for a concession, Furoar asked if Kriot will be conceding it. The point was to see if there was any consistency with the event that was petitioned just a day prior, and there wasn't. Play on prevailed in this case for Kriot.

this is an awful twisting of the words that were posted, which is not surprising given your guild's history of lying, gaslighting, and otherwise being all around terrible people. It's kind of like henry II saying "won't anyone rid me of this meddlesome priest?" and then feigning ignorance when someone, in fact, does so. the literal drug addicts and criminals I deal with regularly IRL are more pleasant people to interact with.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 03:53 PM

It's not gay if it's your guild leader. Educate yourself, bigots.

I mean it was a gay scene. But I don't understand the hate angle lol. This guy completely missed the message

karadin

06-28-2021, 03:58 PM

this is an awful twisting of the words that were posted, which is not surprising given your guild's history of lying, gaslighting, and otherwise being all around terrible people. It's kind of like henry II saying "won't anyone rid me of this meddlesome priest?" and then feigning ignorance when someone, in fact, does so. the literal drug addicts and criminals I deal with regularly IRL are more pleasant people to interact with.

The irony of everything you said here is completely lost on you. Training us the day after petitioning for the same was poetic though.

Samoht

06-28-2021, 04:08 PM

The irony of everything you said here is completely lost on you. Training us the day after petitioning for the same was poetic though.

They are an intentionally dense, do as I say, not as I do group of people.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 04:13 PM

The irony of everything you said here is completely lost on you. Training us the day after petitioning for the same was poetic though.

Irony is dead, because you people complain about training while being led by the person who's singular claim to fame is high jacking a rival guild's bot to train them (and then being proud about it afterwards). but sure, I can just say words devoid of all meaning too.

reasons I know you are all 100% full of shit: the cognitive dissonance required to believe all the contradictory things you say would be enough to rip a person in half, yet here you are carrying on, presumably a whole person.

for the record, the petition of klaz's train was like a 3-4 minute read, tops. if it took you longer than that, sorry you don't read at an adult level.

Nutsax

06-28-2021, 04:17 PM

Pulgasari

06-28-2021, 04:20 PM

Does gay sex trigger you that much? Wow, I'm surprised

no but gay tigger sex does

Nirgon

06-28-2021, 04:20 PM

This guy failed on all 3 servers.

and the forums

karadin

06-28-2021, 04:24 PM

Irony is dead, because you people complain about training while being led by the person who's singular claim to fame is high jacking a rival guild's bot to train them (and then being proud about it afterwards). but sure, I can just say words devoid of all meaning too.

reasons I know you are all 100% full of shit: the cognitive dissonance required to believe all the contradictory things you say would be enough to rip a person in half, yet here you are carrying on, presumably a whole person.

for the record, the petition of klaz's train was like a 3-4 minute read, tops. if it took you longer than that, sorry you don't read at an adult level.

Once again, irony completely lost on you. All good though, see you in game.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 04:24 PM

Once again, irony completely lost on you. All good though, see you in game.

explain it, then.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 04:27 PM

no but gay tigger sex does

It shouldn't make you feel anything at all if it isn't your thing. Hope this helps.

Gatordash

06-28-2021, 04:31 PM

explain it, then.

Both guilds have an incredibly long history of being guilty of the same shit yet they only see it from their side of things.

Allishia

06-28-2021, 04:32 PM

Both guilds have an incredibly long history of being guilty of the same shit yet they only see it from their side of things.

My guild is innocent 😇

Hideousclaw

06-28-2021, 04:33 PM

My guild is innocent 😇

ditto but my way

Gatordash

06-28-2021, 04:35 PM

My guild is innocent 😇

Except Allishia, she's the only innocent one on the server ;)

Arvan

06-28-2021, 04:36 PM

karadin

06-28-2021, 04:38 PM

explain it, then.

Nah it's okay, you're completely right. Kriot has an impregnable moral code and is therefore the only guild in any position to call out another guild for their hypocrisy, gaslighting, and being all around terrible words. Thank you for your service and for being the server good guys.

Pulgasari

06-28-2021, 04:40 PM

It shouldn't make you feel anything at all if it isn't your thing. Hope this helps.

https://i.imgur.com/83XDDAV.gif

Nexii

06-28-2021, 04:42 PM

Nah it's okay, you're completely right. Kriot has an impregnable moral code and is therefore the only guild in any position to call out another guild for their hypocrisy, gaslighting, and being all around terrible words. Thank you for your service and for being the server good guys.

There was a time Riot was full of insufferable crybabies. But now you're just hating on normal people in Riot and KSWM that have stuck it through. It's like that Star Trek episode 'Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". You don't even know why you hate us anymore.

xdrcfrx

06-28-2021, 04:43 PM

Nah it's okay, you're completely right. Kriot has an impregnable moral code and is therefore the only guild in any position to call out another guild for their hypocrisy, gaslighting, and being all around terrible words. Thank you for your service and for being the server good guys.

hm, we've got gaslighting, goalpost moving, strawmanning, some gish gallop... how many other bad faith debate tactics can you employ?

I understand that what you enjoy is being a complete piece of shit, and then rubbing everyone else's face in it. bullies like you are a dime a dozen. you can all rot.

Samoht

06-28-2021, 04:55 PM

hm, we've got gaslighting, goalpost moving, strawmanning, some gish gallop... how many other bad faith debate tactics can you employ?

I understand that what you enjoy is being a complete piece of shit, and then rubbing everyone else's face in it. bullies like you are a dime a dozen. you can all rot.

Exhibit A: Victim complex.

karadin

06-28-2021, 05:14 PM

There was a time Riot was full of insufferable crybabies. But now you're just hating on normal people in Riot and KSWM that have stuck it through. It's like that Star Trek episode 'Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". You don't even know why you hate us anymore.

Not hating on members and I don’t hate Riot or Kittens. I was pointing out glaring hypocrisy in my mind when it comes to raid-concerns. If anything these types of issues always fall on leadership. The average Joe/Jill in all guilds are generally good peeps.

Grumph

06-28-2021, 05:24 PM

The solution for us here is simple, elegant, timeless.

15120

Viscere

06-28-2021, 06:08 PM

*kriot is #2

/thread

Trademarked

06-28-2021, 06:25 PM

Nibblewitz <Vanquish> — 06/26/2021
Thanks for your patience. We have reviewed your concerns and do not feel that concessions are appropriate in this circumstance.

Furoar <Vanquish> — 06/26/2021
@@KWSM @@Riot You guys just trained our camp at trips. Will you be conceding this Vulak?

Didn't see the question. Nobody asked Kriot for a concession, Furoar asked if Kriot will be conceding it. The point was to see if there was any consistency with the event that was petitioned just a day prior, and there wasn't. Play on prevailed in this case for Kriot.

Vanquish inconsistent?! /gasp
And to make a point of bringing it up to boot?
More intelligence to be found in a bag of rocks.

ArbiterBlixen

06-28-2021, 07:14 PM

This is what happens when a corpse is dragged along feeding off bag limit scraps. No such thing as a graceful death in Riot.

Detoxx

06-28-2021, 08:16 PM

Vanquish is a guild that truly believes competing is more important than having an environment clear of racism and bigotry. It's sad really.

Oh jesus here we go. Do you ever stop? You are extremely annoying and were never like this is Aftermath.

karadin

06-28-2021, 08:31 PM

Nibblewitz <Vanquish> — 06/26/2021
Thanks for your patience. We have reviewed your concerns and do not feel that concessions are appropriate in this circumstance.

Furoar <Vanquish> — 06/26/2021
@@KWSM @@Riot You guys just trained our camp at trips. Will you be conceding this Vulak?

Vanquish inconsistent?! /gasp
And to make a point of bringing it up to boot?
More intelligence to be found in a bag of rocks.

So you’re going to ignore the glaring issue with your logic here?

Detoxx

06-28-2021, 08:38 PM

There was a time Riot was full of insufferable crybabies. But now you're just hating on normal people in Riot and KSWM that have stuck it through. It's like that Star Trek episode 'Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". You don't even know why you hate us anymore.

Wonder why so many people have left Riot and came to Vanquish if were the bad guys? Seems strange that virtually no one has left Vanquish for Riot.

These are people who you all adored before they left. Its either because
A. you guys are not as good as you think you are or;
B. you just suck.

Im going with A and B

Nirgon

06-28-2021, 08:43 PM

Oh jesus here we go. Do you ever stop? You are extremely annoying and were never like this is Aftermath.

Its a degenerative mental illness that occurs within quitters who still want to feel special and superior in some way. The wokeism/victim mentality stuff is a bottomless void of self hate and projecting it on others.

Detoxx

06-28-2021, 08:44 PM

Nexii

06-28-2021, 08:55 PM

Its a degenerative mental illness that occurs within quitters who still want to feel special and superior in some way. The wokeism/victim mentality stuff is a bottomless void of self hate and projecting it on others.

I never quit AM it was the leadership that quit.

Tunabros

06-28-2021, 08:59 PM

oh my actual days

take a break guys

Nexii

06-28-2021, 09:05 PM

Yes I agree. Everything and every thread the only person who brings up transgenders is her. No one else gives a shit. At all.

Shes a narcissist and is seeking validation on an elf forum and its very sad.

I was seeking for you to say your guild doesn't tolerate bigotry per the server rules. But I guess you didn't clue in yet

Pulgasari

06-28-2021, 09:09 PM

https://i.imgur.com/egauTvK.gif

karadin

06-28-2021, 09:43 PM

I was seeking for you to say your guild doesn't tolerate bigotry per the server rules. But I guess you didn't clue in yet

You and I already went down this road. You have an opinion that isn’t going to change and that’s fine. You’re in the guild that is evidently perfect for you which is great. Nevertheless, if you ever found yourself in Vanquish your sexuality/gender/whatever wouldn’t be persecuted, despite what you believe.

Detoxx

06-28-2021, 09:54 PM

You and I already went down this road. You have an opinion that isn’t going to change and that’s fine. You’re in the guild that is evidently perfect for you which is great. Nevertheless, if you ever found yourself in Vanquish your sexuality/gender/whatever wouldn’t be persecuted, despite what you believe.

She burned that bridge.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 09:58 PM

karadin

06-28-2021, 10:11 PM

Wouldn't be persecuted is not the same as saying that the guild does not tolerate bigotry. All that means is you take everyone and tolerate anything no matter how vile.

No it’s not the same. Stop putting words in my mouth. It’s getting old.

Boptop

06-28-2021, 10:12 PM

I would like to hear more about your experience with bigotry. Can you give more details about the intolerance you encountered from the incels, Nexii?

Grumph

06-28-2021, 10:14 PM

Can we all at least agree on scientific facts at least?

When you die cats will eat your ears and eye lids.

Dogs will lay next to you and mournfully starve to death unless someone rescues them from their grief.

Gatordash

06-28-2021, 10:20 PM

Nexii

06-28-2021, 10:27 PM

No it’s not the same. Stop putting words in my mouth. It’s getting old.

Ok then. Still waiting for someone from Vanquish leadership to state that their guild does not stand for bigotry as per the project rules.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 10:32 PM

I would like to hear more about your experience with bigotry. Can you give more details about the intolerance you encountered from the incels, Nexii?

I mean actually Rustle and AM were fine, and the server at whole during those times (2015-2019). As has been Riot since I re-joined. This is more of a recent trend. Maybe it is COVID making people incel or angry. Or maybe you can speculate why P99 has regressed while society has moved forward?

Grumph

06-28-2021, 10:38 PM

Ok then. Still waiting for someone from Vanquish leadership to state that their guild does not stand for bigotry as per the project rules.

You sound like you're ready to even go one step further and make a Public Oath Against Toxicity and Mind Reading.

Bardp1999

06-28-2021, 10:43 PM

Or maybe you can speculate why P99 has regressed while society has moved forward?

Most P99ers are removed from general society - cant track Vulak while jogging at the park AM I RITE? The normal people on P99 might make it to 60 one day but it's unlikely, and they sure as fuck are not part of the uber guilds (maybe for a bit, but it's unsustainable and they usually warm body out). You surround yourself with the most neckbeard players on the server and wonder why they have fucked up brains and views on things 1) too much porn 2) OCD/Autism 3) edge lords 4) nerds

karadin

06-28-2021, 10:46 PM

Ok then. Still waiting for someone from Vanquish leadership to state that their guild does not stand for bigotry as per the project rules.

Our guild does not stand for racism/bigotry as per the project rules. If you feel someone in our guild is being bigoted/racist, feel free to PM me in discord.

Nexii

06-28-2021, 10:59 PM

Most P99ers are removed from general society - cant track Vulak while jogging at the park AM I RITE? The normal people on P99 might make it to 60 one day but it's unlikely, and they sure as fuck are not part of the uber guilds (maybe for a bit, but it's unsustainable and they usually warm body out). You surround yourself with the most neckbeard players on the server and wonder why they have fucked up brains and views on things 1) too much porn 2) OCD/Autism 3) edge lords 4) nerds

Yea perhaps but it wasn't always as such. Other factors I think.

Demonstorm

06-29-2021, 12:38 AM

We should allow for one week a month of a purge event, where we turn on PVP and there are no rules. Whos in!

Grumph

06-29-2021, 12:40 AM

We should allow for one week a month of a purge event, where we turn on PVP and there are no rules. Whos in!

Sounds like fun to me :-)

I bet it would reduce tensions. Well. Possibly.

Boptop

06-29-2021, 12:52 AM

Our guild does not stand for racism/bigotry as per the project rules. If you feel someone in our guild is being bigoted/racist, feel free to PM me in discord.

Can you give a tangible example of when your guild has singled out and eliminated this behaviour? EQ players are pretty prone to having unstable personalities so I'm sure there have been instances.

Viscere

06-29-2021, 02:33 AM

Nexii

06-29-2021, 05:39 AM

When nexii loses pixels, she goes on about bigotry etc, or makes nazi jokes

If she keeps losing pixels she will leave their guild

If said guild gets free uncontested vulaks, she will re join

Oyster IQ lol

Sorry I didn't join your guild with the sociopath leader. Nothing about Freedom gave me the feeling the culture was any better than Riot at the time. Having members like you that won't ever understand culture matters more than pixels just proves it.

Toxigen

06-29-2021, 06:58 AM

Oh we understand culture just fine.

No ones up-in-arms offended over stupid shit. Everyone has a good time. We support one another, chip in doing the drudge work when we can, and show up to slay raid mobs.

Its like you think <Vanquish> guild chat is filled with bigoted, racist hate speech. Meanwhile, back in reality, I haven't seen a single bit...nor would it be tolerated.

You know, Nexii, if you had any semblance of a spine you could have just spoken to me directly like a normal human being. You talk me up like I'm the Final Arbiter of Racism and anti-LGBTQ - yet the only direct communication we ever had was buff tells and raid communications (all positive).

Thats the problem with people like you. You make your own personal issues a big fucking problem with this whole cry wolf / "I'm offended" bullshit. Jokes, stereotypes, and everything else that was funny 20 years ago is still funny today to the overwhelming majority. The problem is not with those that can still laugh...its the people like you whose lower lip quivers the moment you hear something that isn't 100% PC woke-culture approved. Its cancerous.

But for real, thanks for the power move on Riot /o. Even though I'm only a 10-15% RA kind of player, having a great time with these folks that you and your cohorts villainized for so long.

Cheers.

Nexii

06-29-2021, 07:27 AM

It might surprise you but I told the officer crew not to guild remove for the first incident. Several of them offered to. My take was that it was vile but since not personally directed, a warning was fine.

The reason I left Riot was precisely that. A guild that professed to be so righteous yet cried about everything and attempted to gaslight me about my past experiences with bigotry (which had been few to nil). I decided to move on as raiding in that culture just wasn't fun.

Bashing Vaye for being trans was despicable. There was no angle of joking or being funny. You're just full of hate. When it comes down to it I feel bad for ya cause it comes from somewhere.

I don't believe Vanquish is or ever will be all that accepting of minorities. From talking to several closeted members, and the trans bashing incident Monrezz was open about. Can only hope your guild mellows out over time as Wulf promised.

Detoxx

06-29-2021, 07:50 AM

Nexii is just mad that she has 9k dkp and her guild can't kill Vulak for her to get her ring. She has to project her anger elsewhere which is towards that guild that kills Vulak every week.

She hides it under the pretense that were some vile, bigoted guild (all of which is untrue but she's in the the guild that she left for bigotry and has members named Inbetween Genders and Tuinda) to try and hide that.

No one cares about you, if you're a transgender, if you're not a transgender or anyone who is a transgender. You're the only one who cares and consistently brings it up in every thread like a 6 year old child.

You should probably learn to accept yourself instead of seeking acceptance from nerds here. It all starts with you, Nexii. I'm sorry that you have issues accepting it but, rest assured, no one else gives a shit.

Nexii

06-29-2021, 07:59 AM

If you're somehow offended by Inbetween that says a lot about your mentality. Go read up what non-binary is. Though I don't think you really are because Inbetween was accepted into AM. So really it's hard to believe much of anything you say.

Samoht

06-29-2021, 09:09 AM

Reasons Nexii rejoined Riot:

1) Free uncontested vulaks
B) Freedom wouldn't take them
C) Free uncontested vulaks

Boptop

06-29-2021, 09:14 AM

Thats the problem with people like you.

People like what? Seems an awful lot like a stereotype to me. I think we need to see a demographic break down of loot to race ratio to help put your guild's alleged rampant systemic racism to bed.

Samoht

06-29-2021, 09:16 AM

People like what? Seems an awful lot like a stereotype to me. I think we need to see a demographic break down of loot to race ratio to help put your guild's alleged rampant systemic racism to bed.

I was unaware that people seeking validation on internet forums and who like to interject their sexuality into every conversation was considered a race...

Cecily

06-29-2021, 09:18 AM

Honestly, Detoxx, if I may. I would like to see a copy of your guild's affirmative loot distribution action policy. Are marginalized race/class combos being represented in the drafting of these 30-page petitions?