Ip Exemption Request Question *has anyone done this before?*

[Dragonbane]

I just asked for an Ip exemption for my bro and Gf, but after I posted the thread in the petition forum I wondered how I will be notified if we're granted the exemption. I left an email address, but do they send you an email if it's granted? What about if it is denied? Any details from someone who has been through this thing would be appreciated. I'm really curious how this works.:cool:

[Mady]

You just have to keep checking back. They will post an answer.

It is frowned upon to bump posts there.

They do them in batches according to the date posted.

[Cypher.]

I received a reply in the thread that I created in the petition forum within a few hours. Just check your thread regularly and Those Upon High will eventually get to you.

[Trench_Raider]

I'm still waiting on mine after a week. My wife and I want to play together. (we were active on EQ live back when we were dating in the early days)
But I understand it often takes a bit. Ah well.

TR

[Dragonbane]

So should I be able to find my thread in the same area that I found this one I posted? I navigated back to the petition forum area, and I don't see anything. All I need to do is post a thread in that area correct? Any specific information on this situation would be greatly appreciated.

[Trench_Raider]

My exemption request thread is still visible to me in the petition forum...with one view. I have no clue why you can not see yours.

TR

[Dragonbane]

I see it now. Just not when I click on my statistics tab and click my threads.

[baalzy]

Double-check the sticky in the Petitions and make sure that your post follows the guidelines exactly.

If your post is no longer visible to you, then try logging in. Your exemption may have been granted.

Try also looking in the resolved petitions sub-forum.

Otherwise, if you cannot find your post (try going to your profile and browsing for threads created by you, should be able to find it there) then post a new application. Maybe you got missed and they deleted the thread accidently.

[Fourthmeal]

I heard spamming the forum admins with PMs helps the process.

[bulbousaur]

Mine took a little over two weeks.

[Lavahorn]

I just asked for this one also, Fiancee and I want to play together.

[vankate315]

I applied for this as well a little over a week ago. My husband, brother-in-law and I all want to play together as well, recreate the "old days". :-) The thread is still viewable to me, but no response yet. I would give it at least 2 weeks, maybe even a little longer, based on the responses I've read on this matter. It takes time and they do it in batches.

Just don't bump the thread or PM those in charge, and it hopefully should work out fine. :cool:

[Shiggy]

Ours took about 3 weeks so just have to be patient.

[bizzum]

[Insert my personal experience about IP exemptions here.]

[Amelinda]

I'm fairly sure that we are backlogged due to the inundation of people requiring IP exemptions. They are done in batches. Being patient is key.

Also. I feel it is important to remind everyone that multi-boxing is against the rules. Ignorance of the rule does not exempt you.

Multi-boxing is not allowed. Players are only allowed to play one client per RL person. We will be enforcing this rule and we ask for everyone’s co-operation to just abide by our wishes. Breaking this rule will result in a ban.


That is from THIS POST (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1057) about some of the server rules. Other helpful posts can be found in the library HERE (http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2).

[Vidrata]

Should get some volunteers to bust those out every monday or friday tbh =P

[Stumpes]

Took me about 5 days to get mine. They do not send you a PM. Check in the resolutions section of the petition board if you do not see your thread listed.

[Flavor]

OP: My err ... ahem ... wife wants to err... start playing.

[Shrubwise]

Dragonbane everybody knows girls dont play EQ. They aren't gonna exempt you now they know that you're lying!

[bakkily]

itll take 1 -2 weeks

[snwbrdr642]

itll take 1 -2 weeks

its been over 2 weeks

[Trannce715]

It took me roughly a month to get mine. Ofcourse they were in the middle of Kunark beta and what not. It will come.

[Slave]

It takes between just after you give up and goddamn forever.

[Dracnor]

at the end of the day all these guys are volunteers and its a heck of a job running all them.. slack, cut?

[Dragonbane]

Well it is really strange because the thread doesn't exist in my statistics section when I check all of the threads I posted, but I can see it when I click on petition's forum. Has that ever happened to anyone before?

Anyway, it's been viewed 4 times. I wonder what that means since it's private?

[Shrubwise]

Only you can see it (the poster) and the mods can see it (the Bosses)

Chances are, it has been viewed 4 times by 4 different mods. They have then met at a house party, discussed your situation, deemed it unlikely that you have a girlfriend, let alone that she would be interested in playing EQ. Furthermore, as they sip a nice IPA, they chuckle that you invented an imaginary brother, for a third exemption. They laugh all the way home as they look up your IP and push "DENY!" to your IP exemption.

That, or they could be swamped with other shit and you'll get your exemption in a week or two. Calm da fuck down :)

[maestrom]

I thought I read somewhere that Nil was the only one with the ability to do IP exemptions and he has been (understandably) MIA since a million tornadoes blew through his hometown.

[bulbousaur]

When mine was done, Uthgaard posted a reply to my thread that it was complete.

[Trench_Raider]

Mine was done yesterday....thanks P99 staff!

Your thread will disapear from view in the petition forum, but you will be able to see it in the "resolved issues" forum with a reply from the admin who performed the exemption.

Mine took right at a week.

TR

[Envious]

Mine was done yesterday....thanks P99 staff!

Your thread will disapear from view in the petition forum, but you will be able to see it in the "resolved issues" forum with a reply from the admin who performed the exemption.

Mine took right at a week.

TR

Die in a goddamn fire. I've been waiting for three weeks +

[Lagaidh]

My wife posted for ours while I started my toon. Didn't seem to take long, but that was over a year ago.

[Amelinda]

If your IP exemption hasn't gone through and is taking a while - you might want to check your thread and ensure that it has complete information in an easy to read format and includes things like...

account names for all accounts involved.....

IP Exemption: This is for requesting to be exempt from the limit of 1 connection per IP Address. You may request exemption if you have more than 1 real person playing from the same IP. When posting for this, please include the account names of every person that will be playing from the same IP.

Chances are if you just say My wife, son and I are going to play and need an IP exemption then that's not going to help. if you say "My 7 buddies and I want to lan so IP exemption plz" you aren't going to get one.

Account names for every account involved. :)

If your post is taking a long time and is incomplete - i'd recommend editing it and bumping it. :)

[phoenix182]

For me and friends the times have been about 12 hours, 4 hours, 8 hours, and 1 day. Not sure if we're just that lucky, or what.

By the way, we're getting quite the lan parties going now...is there any limit to IP Exemptions? Not sure if I need to stop telling people about the server or what.

[Envious]

For me and friends the times have been about 12 hours, 4 hours, 8 hours, and 1 day. Not sure if we're just that lucky, or what.

By the way, we're getting quite the lan parties going now...is there any limit to IP Exemptions? Not sure if I need to stop telling people about the server or what.

Yeah, I think I pissed off the wrong people or something.

[Dragonbane]

Woot! They got mine yesterday morning!

[Uthgaard]

If you don't have yours done, and you posted > 2 weeks ago, one or all of the following probably applies to you:


You didn't follow the instructions.
You requested more than 2 accounts with questionable or no information. I'm not going to flag 5 accounts just because someone posts the account names and no other text. You have a higher responsibility to prove that you're different people.
You haven't bumped your thread since you posted it, and it's lost 20 pages back in the petition forum.
You've been banned for 2boxing before and didn't think I'd notice that new forum name you registered, or you lied in the exemption. It's not easy to slip one by me.


In order of frequency, it's really that simple.

[jerus]

I was able to get one for me and my brother's accounts, I'm wondering though does that only allow us to play on those 2 accounts? If I were to want to play on a different account with him is that an option? Would i need to apply for that account to be added to my exemption?

Also what is the official stance on sharing accounts? Like is it ok to log on a friend to use their character?

I like the stance against boxing (prevents people from just 6 boxing and holding camps forever) but still not familiar with all the rules yet I read through all the rules I saw and didn't really see anything specific to sharing accounts although I may just fail at reading.

[falkun]

I was able to get one for me and my brother's accounts, I'm wondering though does that only allow us to play on those 2 accounts? If I were to want to play on a different account with him is that an option? Would i need to apply for that account to be added to my exemption?
See Baalzy's post (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=307082&postcount=40). Edited to remove incorrect response.
Also what is the official stance on sharing accounts? Like is it ok to log on a friend to use their character?
As long as a single person is running a single account, you may access any accounts to which you know the login information. However, when you get into a fight with your brother and he logs in, binds you in kedge, and kills you in seb basement, don't go whining to the devs that you gave your account info out. Also, don't log into his account while you are logged into yours, that's boxing and a bannable offense.

[vankate315]

If you don't have yours done, and you posted > 2 weeks ago, one or all of the following probably applies to you:


You requested more than 2 accounts with questionable or no information. I'm not going to flag 5 accounts just because someone posts the account names and no other text. You have a higher responsibility to prove that you're different people.



The above could possibly pertain to the 3 IP exemptions I requested 2 weeks ago, but I am not sure what else I can do to prove that we in fact, are 3 different people, living in the same household. I did explain the situation as best I could. We're all related, and none of us are multiple-boxing gamers nor do we plan to be.

What other proof/information should we give besides account names?

[baalzy]

You are exempted by IP, not by account. So if your IP exemption is for 2 accounts, presumably you can have any 2 accounts running from the same IP, but not a third.


Not true, the exemptions are on the account not your IP.

Otherwise everytime your ISP decided to issue you a new Ip address (which they theoretically could do hourly if they wanted) you'd have to apply for a new exemption.

Instead, accounts with IP exemptions don't get counted as your 1 connection /ip. This means if you decided to create a separate account to level a cleric on (to share with friends/guild makes, for example) you'd need to request a new exemption. Although it's possible that you could still play it as long as the other account you were playing with had their own exemptions. But if you were both to create brand new accounts, you'd definitely need to apply for new exemptions.

[Amelinda]

The following items are still considered boxing and I promise WHEN you are caught - you WILL be banned :(

-porting one toon with your other one
-logging both toons on to get a port for both
-Having a second boxed toon on "Just for C/Stamina/Healing/Regen/damage shield"
-Logging in to rez yourself
-buffing yourself

[jerus]

Ok so exemptions are done by account and would need all accounts in question to have an exemption to be able to log one on and have my brother log another on.

And me and my brother have played eq for years and years, don't do that kind of stuff to each other so no worries.

I don't want to box just was going to do different duo partners in different level ranges with my brothers using a friends account so I can just level him instead of starting my own.

And while we are talking about it, how would this type of situation be looked at: I log on a druid account, brother logs on his account I port him, he logs off his account logs on my account I port him again, then log off druid and log on myself and we continue on. Is that ok as long as we are only ever on 1 char at a time?

Would that trigger a red flag that might get us in trouble? Is that looked down upon even if it isn't against rules?

I'm loving the game so far and want to make sure I don't do anything that will cause problems.

[baalzy]

Ok so exemptions are done by account and would need all accounts in question to have an exemption to be able to log one on and have my brother log another on.

And me and my brother have played eq for years and years, don't do that kind of stuff to each other so no worries.

I don't want to box just was going to do different duo partners in different level ranges with my brothers using a friends account so I can just level him instead of starting my own.

And while we are talking about it, how would this type of situation be looked at: I log on a druid account, brother logs on his account I port him, he logs off his account logs on my account I port him again, then log off druid and log on myself and we continue on. Is that ok as long as we are only ever on 1 char at a time?

Would that trigger a red flag that might get us in trouble? Is that looked down upon even if it isn't against rules?

I'm loving the game so far and want to make sure I don't do anything that will cause problems.

It's legal, but you'd want to take some care to make it look like you're not boxing.

Running around flailing your arms on both characters simultaneously would probably work. That's hard for a single person to do ;).

Another suggestion, is not to go afk for long periods of time while the other person is in party with you and killing stuff. Even though you might legitimately be afk and the other person isn't even capable of manipulating your character. To a casual observer/GM it looks exactly like multi-boxing.

The best possible thing to do is to make sure both characters are doing something at the same time that would be difficult to do if you were having to alt-tab or switch to different keyboards.

[jerus]

So if one of the people afk's you may look suspicious anyways, is there any way to prove you aren't two boxing if they suspect it? Or are you always taking a risk playing with someone else in the house?

[baalzy]

So if one of the people afk's you may look suspicious anyways, is there any way to prove you aren't two boxing if they suspect it? Or are you always taking a risk playing with someone else in the house?

You're taking a risk. All the devs are able to see are 2 characters logged in from the same IP address. This means if one is doing all the moving around/pulling/killing while the other does nothing or only occasionally throws a buff/heal then from the outside it appears exactly like two boxing.

The price you pay for being able to play side by side with someone is that you have to have additional diligence to keep things from appearing like they're not on the up-and-up.

[Raavak]

This means if one is doing all the moving around/pulling/killing while the other does nothing or only occasionally throws a buff/heal then from the outside it appears exactly like two boxing.

If I was playing with my kid and he went afk and Amelinda or Uthgaard showed up and started peering at me quizzically, I think I'd be yelling pretty loud for him to get back to his computer! :)

[vankate315]

My husband, brother-in-law and I all are on different computers but live in the same household. So basically, if we get approved for IP exemption for three accounts and get to group, then we all will always have to keep moving around in fights to show we're not multiple-boxing? If my BIL plays a cleric, then he can't really sit still to heal us because there is no way to prove he is a separate person? I'm so excited to play with them again, but feeling a little overwhelmed with the risks to just be able to play and not get constantly suspected of breaking rules, with no way to truly prove innocence. Does anyone else play easily with more than one other person in the house?

[Raavak]

I'm so excited to play with them again, but feeling a little overwhelmed with the risks to just be able to play and not get constantly suspected of breaking rules

Don't break the rules and you will be fine, I'd think. I haven't heard of anyone claiming they've been wrongly banned for multiboxing and the GMs understand a cleric spends 90+% of their time sitting. The people who call the GM's Nazi's and stuff are usually the people who did something wrong.

[vankate315]

In the petition/exploit forum, it is stated that part of the required information includes "account names". Does this refer to the EQ-emu login account, or the forum account?

It also mentions "character names", but if one were to create more characters on their account, would that be necessary to include, since that information could constantly change?

[Vidrata]

Don't break the rules and you will be fine, I'd think. I haven't heard of anyone claiming they've been wrongly banned for multiboxing and the GMs understand a cleric spends 90+% of their time sitting. The people who call the GM's Nazi's and stuff are usually the people who did something wrong.

My husband was banned from the forums for calling the mods/devs nazi's.

[baalzy]

My husband was banned from the forums for calling the mods/devs nazi's.

Rule #1: Don't piss off Uthgaard.

Even if you think he's wrong, don't piss him off. If you do piss him off, don't go public about it. It will end poorly for you. He has no obligation to you.

If you ever have a problem with him, do not bring it to the (public)boards. Post your concerns with any screenshots/logs/fraps in the petitions forum.

You'll have a lot better luck taking it up in private with him/the other GMs/devs then going public with your gripes.

[Uthgaard]

My husband, brother-in-law and I all are on different computers but live in the same household. So basically, if we get approved for IP exemption for three accounts and get to group, then we all will always have to keep moving around in fights to show we're not multiple-boxing? If my BIL plays a cleric, then he can't really sit still to heal us because there is no way to prove he is a separate person? I'm so excited to play with them again, but feeling a little overwhelmed with the risks to just be able to play and not get constantly suspected of breaking rules, with no way to truly prove innocence. Does anyone else play easily with more than one other person in the house?

There's an element of common sense involved. We have a lot of ways of checking without you ever knowing we did it. There's a dramatic difference between someone who is 2boxing and someone who isn't, and it's never a snap decision. We've all made mistakes, but everyone who takes the time to talk to us calmly and doesn't start spamming the forums with 'omg uthgaard/amelinda/hobby/whoever suxxxors' gets responded to.

I bend over backwards to help people who are polite. But I'll go just as far out of my way to make someone regret being a dick.

[beeshma_nameless]

And while we are talking about it, how would this type of situation be looked at: I log on a druid account, brother logs on his account I port him, he logs off his account logs on my account I port him again, then log off druid and log on myself and we continue on. Is that ok as long as we are only ever on 1 char at a time?



Why do all this instead of just you and your brother logging in, and looking for a port from some other people?

[jerus]

Why do all this instead of just you and your brother logging in, and looking for a port from some other people?

Was just an example, could just as easily slip in cleric to rez or enc to buff. I assumed something like this would be looked down upon and something I wouldn't want to do but was curious as to an official stance.

[Amelinda]

My husband, brother-in-law and I all are on different computers but live in the same household. So basically, if we get approved for IP exemption for three accounts and get to group, then we all will always have to keep moving around in fights to show we're not multiple-boxing? If my BIL plays a cleric, then he can't really sit still to heal us because there is no way to prove he is a separate person? I'm so excited to play with them again, but feeling a little overwhelmed with the risks to just be able to play and not get constantly suspected of breaking rules, with no way to truly prove innocence. Does anyone else play easily with more than one other person in the house?

As uthgaard said...world of difference. It's never a snap decision. Unless you are so blatant you might as well be holding a neon sign that says 'I AM 2-BOXING' then before I summon you and talk to you I have watched you a good 6 RL hours or so :P

[naagok]

As uthgaard said...world of difference. It's never a snap decision. Unless you are so blatant you might as well be holding a neon sign that says 'I AM 2-BOXING' then before I summon you and talk to you I have watched you a good 6 RL hours or so :P

That's reassuring, I just posted a request for me and my two friends and I don't know how else to prove we are different people except for someone to watch us.

[Lazortag]

I've had an IP exemption with my girlfriend for over a year and not once have I been accused of two-boxing, even when 99% of our playtime together has been me PLing one of her characters, which may be seen as suspicious. It's not like if one of us goes AFK without throwing up an AFK tag then the two boxing witch hunt comes and tries to burn us at the stake. Most people I've encountered are very understanding and only voice their suspicions about possible two-boxers when there's a lot of evidence against them.

[sigundo]

I wouldn't worry much about the 2-boxing thing unless you actually do it. As for logging in and out and buffing, I don't think they would consider that boxing. For instance, my daughter and I are making characters to plant at the major cities (Qeynos, Freeport and Greater Faydark). If we can't find anybody (or anybody willing) we will be able to bind each others' characters, and anyone else we see that needs it, at anytime. As long as you have one character under your control and only one, you should be ok.

If you want to see a lot of logging characters, you should have seen when I was trying to get my Ogre into Freeport (now I've given up cause I think something is wrong) but I was running my "good" character to do the Janam/Rebby Quest then dropping the items and logging in my "evil" character to pick up the items and turn them in. Thats two characters logging in/out every 4 minutes for hours. After about 4x normal (classic) turn ins, I finally had to reroll and let it go cause the faction just wouldn't move (it went to the next highest KOS (glares I think) and stopped). If all that logging didn't cause any problems, I dont think logging in a couple times to port each other will get you kicked as you're not violating the rules that I know of.

Dang, now I wish faction worked, I miss my Ogre... oh well, the ranger is fun as well. :)