View Full Version : Defund and Reform the Police
Sonderbeast
07-08-2021, 07:30 AM
Warning this video (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ofqioe/arizona_police_officer_resigns_after_beating_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) may be disturbing for some folks due to violence. Consider it NSFW for those reasons.
According to the post the reason the police were called was because he was sleeping in his car. The officer has since resigned thank god, if only due to the fact that he was required to wear a video camera.
This is a dynamic video in that it highlights several societal illnesses in the US.
Criminalization of poverty/homelessness
Criminalization (or stigma) of mental illness
Lack of training and procedure by Law Enforcement
Law Enforcement encroaching on personal rights and freedoms
Undue Escalation of force by Law Enforcement
The fact that this only matters because the victim was white
All year we've seen more and more of this same type of violence from the Police. And that's just because the coverage has grown due to Floyd. This has been happening our entire lives, and the only reason any accountability has come from this was due to Police being required to wear a fucking video device. Wake up.
Skarne
07-08-2021, 07:59 AM
I don't like thug cops either. We should march our characters from Qeynos to Freeport in protest.
Mesocyclone
07-08-2021, 08:17 AM
Get the bail bond corporations (and lawfirms) out of police or nothing else will be effective.
It's all about the money. Always has been. I'm sorry, it wont ever change on Earth.
Defunding the police was a really good idea the first time it was brought up.
Honestly, if I were a cop, I would tell everyone to go fuck themselves and just do literally anything else.
starkind
07-08-2021, 08:28 AM
I don't mind if we have zero police, just so long as we have zero lawywers or military too
but we shouldn't let poor ppl with mental illness be free (do whatever they want or have the capability to do whatever they want) or live in poverty and make more poor mentally ill (sick diseased, injured) ppl babies that suffer and die anyway and kill 10 more good ppl and drag us down
we should care for them like christ would
HalflingSpergand
07-08-2021, 09:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/8BzMWQZ.jpg
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 10:47 AM
The fact that this only matters because the victim was white
Beef. You're telling on yourself dude.
Jimjam
07-08-2021, 10:58 AM
Calls for changes to the US police make me hungry cos I’ve heard them be called ‘pigs’ so it just makes me think of reformed ham.
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 11:01 AM
Calls for changes to the US police make me hungry cos I’ve heard them be called ‘pigs’ so it just makes me think of reformed ham.
A lot of the protestors do like to press ham (https://i.imgur.com/NTf2tGK.jpg). :p
starkind
07-08-2021, 11:13 AM
Join the military. Earn a paycheck. Maybe get disabled. Killed. Tortured or raped as a PoW or hostage. Or cancer or gulfwar syndrome from being injected with experimental gene therapy. Or burn in satanic five eyes spider hell. PTSD. Rabid. And or a fursuit fetish.
Or save every penny to retire to somewhere in the middle of nowhere so u can play irl minecraft and die from a snakebite or diphtheria while on hold with your VA primary care via ur sat(an)allite phone.
Problem solved.
Sorry if ur has asthma or already a fursuit... maybe try Hollywood as a costume/set designer, extra.
Skarne
07-08-2021, 11:29 AM
Join the military. Earn a paycheck. Maybe get disabled. Killed. Tortured or raped as a PoW or hostage. Or cancer or gulfwar syndrome from being injected with experimental gene therapy. Or burn in satanic five eyes spider hell. PTSD. Rabid. And or a fursuit fetish.
Or save every penny to retire to somewhere in the middle of nowhere so u can play irl minecraft and die from a snakebite or diphtheria while on hold with your VA primary care via ur sat(an)allite phone.
Problem solved.
Sorry if ur has asthma or already a fursuit... maybe try Hollywood as a costume/set designer, extra.
what a strange person
starkind
07-08-2021, 11:45 AM
what a strange person
Thanks for the personhood.
A lot of people live very successful lives without police oppression tho. Even very strange persons.
Step one, Jesus. Step two say no to drugs. Step three no unprotected sex. Step four do some physical activity each day or learn martial arts. Step 5 no fast food or reliance on the state, corporations giving u good health care or feeding u a healthy diet.
Step 6+ be mindful and thoughtful and meditate each day. Step 7+ more be greatful for the opportunity to read this post or reply and step 8++ meditate on this extremely perfect and sound advice. Add more steps as necessary or as u maybe like.
Maybe don't focus on the end result so much and focus on the process, being skillful, patient, and the blessed stars and sky and earth, water, and life that gave you life and in turn will devour you and you have the opportunity right now to feed and nurture with your thought.
I admit this advice will not completely alleviate political or police oppression and abuse but it will help a lot to minimize the chances of u being in a position to be oppressed and abused.
Starbless.
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 11:55 AM
hey OP the french word for surrender is reddition.
Hope this helps.
starkind
07-08-2021, 11:58 AM
hey OP the french word for surrender is reddition.
Hope this helps.
We call this submission in English.
Skarne
07-08-2021, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE=starkind;3331424]Thanks for the personhood.
youre welcome. are we not all people!?
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 12:23 PM
Defunding the police was a really good idea the first time it was brought up.
Honestly, if I were a cop, I would tell everyone to go fuck themselves and just do literally anything else.
you can start by wearing a mask.
starkind
07-08-2021, 01:27 PM
Thanks for the personhood.
youre welcome. are we not all people!?
Yes
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 02:13 PM
Warning this video (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ofqioe/arizona_police_officer_resigns_after_beating_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) may be disturbing for some folks due to violence. Consider it NSFW for those reasons.
According to the post the reason the police were called was because he was sleeping in his car. The officer has since resigned thank god, if only due to the fact that he was required to wear a video camera.
This is a dynamic video in that it highlights several societal illnesses in the US.
Criminalization of poverty/homelessness
Criminalization (or stigma) of mental illness
Lack of training and procedure by Law Enforcement
Law Enforcement encroaching on personal rights and freedoms
Undue Escalation of force by Law Enforcement
The fact that this only matters because the victim was white
All year we've seen more and more of this same type of violence from the Police. And that's just because the coverage has grown due to Floyd. This has been happening our entire lives, and the only reason any accountability has come from this was due to Police being required to wear a fucking video device. Wake up.
Want to see some disturbing videos of cops screaming for their lives as they get ambushed by gunmen and shot to death? Do you think because your democrat news media only feeds you one type of content that cops only experience personal power trips and engage in brutality and aren’t also sometimes assassinated as they sit in a restaurant or in their car? Sometimes their killers are urged on by rhetoric from your political party as well
Jimjam
07-08-2021, 02:20 PM
Not to be callous, but those are part of the risks of the job.
Like firemen suffering from smoke inhalation, medical professionals being exposed to sickness, bar tenders knocking boots with drunk chicks who need a ride home.
Horza
07-08-2021, 02:20 PM
Want to see some disturbing videos of cops screaming for their lives as they get ambushed by gunmen and shot to death? Do you think because your democrat news media only feeds you one type of content that cops only experience personal power trips and engage in brutality and aren’t also sometimes assassinated as they sit in a restaurant or in their car? Sometimes their killers are urged on by rhetoric from your political party as well
Let me know if you want to take a gander, and I can link the videos, dozens of videos of cops screaming as they die in a hail of gunfire
This is your brain on Fox News.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 02:26 PM
There are separate courts in my state for homeless people, so that they don’t clog up our court systems with their minor infractions. These courts for homeless people basically are constantly releasing homeless from all loitering or other minor charges without fines, jail time, or any other penalty, because they recognize that these penalties will not do any good for preventing the problem
Maybe do some research into your own city’s court system before you claim that homelessness is criminalized
Care for the mentally ill? Where, at your house? How are you going to force a paranoid mentally ill person to stay on their medications? You going to be the one to hold them down and give them an injection each month? Or do you want to lock them up in a hospital, that they DON’T want to be in, against their will for months/years on end to keep them stable on their meds that way? Are you going to be the one to rip the illegal drugs out of their hands, to force them to stop using those?
Who’s going to pay for those institutions? How much money do you think it is, per month, to provide a trained staff of licensed clinicians, nurses, doctors, etc, room and board, and food for homeless in these hospitals. You going to pay for all that?
I love progressives and their grandiose ideals with absolutely zero real world applicable knowledge
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 02:30 PM
Not to be callous, but those are part of the risks of the job.
Like firemen suffering from smoke inhalation, medical professionals being exposed to sickness, bar tenders knocking boots with drunk chicks who need a ride home.
And not to be callous but most people including you, wouldn’t do it because they are too much of a coward to put their lives on the line
But they’ll armchair quarterback the shit out of something they don’t understand. They have no formal training in self defense, or de-escalation strategies. Just like people love to be armchair psychologists online with no formal education
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 02:33 PM
There are separate courts in my state for homeless people, so that they don’t clog up our court systems with their minor infractions. These courts for homeless people basically are constantly releasing homeless from all loitering or other minor charges without fines, jail time, or any other penalty, because they recognize that these penalties will not do any good for preventing the problem
Maybe do some research into your own city’s court system before you claim that homelessness is criminalized
Care for the mentally ill? Where, at your house? How are you going to force a paranoid mentally ill person to stay on their medications? You going to be the one to hold them down and give them an injection each month? Or do you want to lock them up in a hospital, that they DON’T want to be in, against their will for months/years on end to keep them stable on their meds that way? Are you going to be the one to rip the illegal drugs out of their hands, to force them to stop using those?
Who’s going to pay for those institutions? How much money do you think it is, per month, to provide a trained staff of licensed clinicians, nurses, doctors, etc, room and board, and food for homeless in these hospitals. You going to pay for all that?
I love progressives and their grandiose ideals with absolutely zero real world applicable knowledge
This can be distilled into "better things aren't possible", which may be true in fact. :confused:
Jimjam
07-08-2021, 02:42 PM
And not to be callous but most people including you, wouldn’t do it because they are too much of a coward to put their lives on the line
But they’ll armchair quarterback the shit out of something they don’t understand. They have no formal training in self defense, or de-escalation strategies. Just like people love to be armchair psychologists online with no formal education
Lol, I've worked as a waterways operative which is far more dangerous than being a plod on a beat, but thanks.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 02:45 PM
This can be distilled into "better things aren't possible", which may be true in fact. :confused:
Locking homeless in a hospital or institution against their will is considered kidnapping and illegal, so you would need a court order. Sounds a lot like criminalizing homelessness: taking them to court to remove their liberties to live where they want and to imprison them in a hospital
Taking hardcore illegal drugs out of homeless people’s hands to prevent them from doing organic damage to their brain chemicals with these? Need police for that. I know progressives assume that there is some “magic” phrase that a substance abuse counselor can say that will instantly make someone decide to give up their heroin or meth addiction, because that’s how it goes in the feelgood movies progressives watch. Turns out, in real life, SOME people are going to continue to use drugs until it kills them and nothing anyone says, not their mom, not a counselor, not Joe Biden, is going to change their mind. What’s the solution for these people? Continue to give them clean needles while the children of the city’s citizens get to watch the homeless person’s slow suicide to drug addiction play out on the street in front of them? That compassion? Or is compassion having the police take the drugs out of their hands, and at the very least destroy those drugs, at most to put the homeless into a forced psychiatric hold or even jail to make them temporarily sober that way? I imagine a lot of people would say neither way is more compassionate
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 02:50 PM
Lol, I've worked as a waterways operative which is far more dangerous than being a plod on a beat, but thanks.
Then it must be the pay that keeps you from doing the easy, safe job of being a police officer. And here I thought they got paid well to to beat and harass innocent people
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 02:56 PM
Locking homeless in a hospital or institution against their will is considered kidnapping and illegal, so you would need a court order. Sounds a lot like criminalizing homelessness: taking them to court to remove their liberties to live where they want and to imprison them in a hospital
Taking hardcore illegal drugs out of homeless people’s hands to prevent them from doing organic damage to their brain chemicals with these? Need police for that. I know progressives assume that there is some “magic” phrase that a substance abuse counselor can say that will instantly make someone decide to give up their heroin or meth addiction, because that’s how it goes in the feelgood movies progressives watch. Turns out, in real life, SOME people are going to continue to use drugs until it kills them and nothing anyone says, not their mom, not a counselor, not Joe Biden, is going to change their mind. What’s the solution for these people? Continue to give them clean needles while the children of the city’s citizens get to watch the homeless person’s slow suicide to drug addiction play out on the street in front of them? That compassion? Or is compassion having the police take the drugs out of their hands, and at the very least destroy those drugs, at most to put the homeless into a forced psychiatric hold or even jail to make them temporarily sober that way? I imagine a lot of people would say neither way is more compassionate
Even people we dislike have Constitutional rights. :)
Feature, not bug.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:04 PM
Even people we dislike have Constitutional rights. :)
Feature, not bug.
Exactly. Maybe eventually you can start reminding progressives that say “we just need better mental health treatment!” that 99.9% of people experiencing paranoia or psychosis are 100% not aware that what they are experiencing is a mental health symptom and not real. And those people will get increasingly pissed off as you or anyone else tries to convince them otherwise, same as you would if I tried to convince you the chair you are sitting on isn’t real. So how do you get them to take the medications that you know will help them but that THEIR brain is telling them is either worthless or even worse, some kind of a poison to control them?
In these situations you HAVE to involve the legal system, and start taking away some rights. And now we are opening up the possibility of physical resistance, combativeness, and the need for police. Progressives don’t realize any of this because they can’t think even one step beyond “we need to improve our mental health systems!”, such as how that would could/would play out in the real world
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 03:09 PM
Exactly. Maybe eventually you can start reminding progressives that say “we just need better mental health treatment!” that 99.9% of people experiencing paranoia or psychosis are 100% not aware that what they are experiencing is a mental health symptom and not real. And those people will get increasingly pissed off as you or anyone else tries to convince them otherwise, same as you would if I tried to convince you the chair you are sitting on isn’t real. So how do you get them to take the medications that you know will help them but that THEIR brain is telling them is either worthless or even worse, some kind of a poison to control them?
In these situations you HAVE to involve the legal system, and start taking away some rights. And now we are opening up the possibility of physical resistance, combativeness, and the need for police. Progressives don’t realize any of this because they can’t think even one step beyond “we need to improve our mental health systems!”, such as how that would could/would play out in the real world
I think if they can do it to them, they can do it us. It never stops at just one outgroup.
Jimjam
07-08-2021, 03:14 PM
Then it must be the pay that keeps you from doing the easy, safe job of being a police officer. And here I thought they got paid well to to beat and harass innocent people
A massive non sequitur. You're just blindly flinging and seeing what sticks.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:16 PM
I think if they can do it to them, they can do it us. It never stops at just one outgroup.
Unlikely. It takes multiple systems of rational reasonable professionals working together to accomplish this. First the person has to present a danger to themselves or others. Then a medical or mental health worker has to clearly spell out the specifics of what that danger is, along with what their mental health symptoms are. Because a person being a danger to others without mental illness is just a delinquent or criminal, and handled differently. So then a doctor reviews the statement of the danger and the symptoms and requests a judge to remove the person’s rights temporarily. Then a court date is set, the person is again evaluated this time by multiple doctors, their findings presented to a judge, and the judge can then put them against their will into an extended hospitalization for months to a year
So for all that to happen to some pleb like Horza, someone would have to make up his mental illness symptoms (which lying on these forums is illegal as well), then the doctor would have to while seeing him in person still agree that he is mentally ill. Then multiple other doctors would have to lie that he is as well. The more people you involve in corruption, the more likely one is going to decide to not play ball. So could all these systems become corrupt at once and start imprisoning healthy, non-mentally ill people in hospitals? Unlikely IMO
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 03:18 PM
Exactly. Maybe eventually you can start reminding progressives that say “we just need better mental health treatment!” that 99.9% of people experiencing paranoia or psychosis are 100% not aware that what they are experiencing is a mental health symptom and not real. And those people will get increasingly pissed off as you or anyone else tries to convince them otherwise, same as you would if I tried to convince you the chair you are sitting on isn’t real. So how do you get them to take the medications that you know will help them but that THEIR brain is telling them is either worthless or even worse, some kind of a poison to control them?
In these situations you HAVE to involve the legal system, and start taking away some rights. And now we are opening up the possibility of physical resistance, combativeness, and the need for police. Progressives don’t realize any of this because they can’t think even one step beyond “we need to improve our mental health systems!”, such as how that would could/would play out in the real world
Reminder to still wear your mask. You have to put others first.
Horza
07-08-2021, 03:18 PM
A massive non sequitur. You're just blindly flinging and seeing what sticks.
You new here or what? :p
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:19 PM
A massive non sequitur. You're just blindly flinging and seeing what sticks.
You’ve worked security before, so you have experience. You aren’t a cop now. So there is some reason that despite having experience with one of the functions of being a cop, that you aren’t one. You said the risks of the job wouldn’t be a deterrent, so the most common other deterrent for people in not working a particular job, is the pay. But by all means illuminate me on why you don’t just go be a cop? Why not bring your experience and high moral values to a field that you believe is desperately in need of them? I’m curious
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 03:20 PM
Unlikely. It takes multiple systems of rational reasonable professionals working together to accomplish this. First the person has to present a danger to themselves or others. Then a medical or mental health worker has to clearly spell out the specifics of what that danger is, along with what their mental health symptoms are. Because a person being a danger to others without mental illness is just a delinquent or criminal, and handled differently. So then a doctor reviews the statement of the danger and the symptoms and requests a judge to remove the person’s rights temporarily. Then a court date is set, the person is again evaluated this time by multiple doctors, their findings presented to a judge, and the judge can then put them against their will into an extended hospitalization for months to a year
So for all that to happen to some pleb like Horza, someone would have to make up his mental illness symptoms (which lying on these forums is illegal as well), then the doctor would have to while seeing him in person still agree that he is mentally ill. Then multiple other doctors would have to lie that he is as well. The more people you involve in corruption, the more likely one is going to decide to not play ball. So could all these systems become corrupt at once and start imprisoning healthy, non-mentally ill people in hospitals? Unlikely IMO
What would happen to your argument if you replaced mental illness with Jews?
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:23 PM
What would happen to your argument if you replaced mental illness with Jews?
If we were in Germany in the 1930’s, a lot of terrible shit. Luckily Germany looks very different now. If you want to see some Jews get persecuted in modern day, just bring them to the Gaza strip or any of the stan’s (Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc), and strand them there. Chances are they won’t make it back alive
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 03:24 PM
If we were in Germany in the 1930’s, a lot of terrible shit.
Did 1930's Germany have laws and courts>
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 03:28 PM
Did 1930's Germany have laws and courts>
zi0f0tzEIIY
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:30 PM
Did 1930's Germany have laws and courts>
Germany did sure. If you are acting like old evils could come springing back to modern day, why couldn’t we just get rid of all the courts and have mob justice? Have a mob determine if someone is innocent or not and just beat them to death in the street? Why doesn’t this become our new system?
Ooh, what if we started having sacrifices to the sun God, like the Aztecs did! Rolling heads down pyramids. Wouldn’t that be crazy?
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 03:31 PM
Germany did sure. If you are acting like old evils could come springing back to modern day, why couldn’t we just get rid of all the courts and have mob justice? Have a mob determine if someone is innocent or not and just beat them to death in the street? Why doesn’t this become our new system?
Ooh, what if we started having sacrifices to the sun God, like the Aztecs did! Rolling heads down pyramids. Wouldn’t that be crazy?
Not just crazy, insane.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:33 PM
Not just crazy, insane.
Ya, I was using them to show that it becomes increasingly unlikely that old evils will be resumed, the more developed a country becomes
But I do appreciate his deep mistrust for Germany. I personally agree that America is the greatest country on earth, and it’s nice to see a little populism from a forum go’er on here
Horza
07-08-2021, 03:33 PM
Germany did sure. If you are acting like old evils could come springing back to modern day, why couldn’t we just get rid of all the courts and have mob justice? Have a mob determine if someone is innocent or not and just beat them to death in the street? Why doesn’t this become our new system?
Ooh, what if we started having sacrifices to the sun God, like the Aztecs did! Rolling heads down pyramids. Wouldn’t that be crazy?
Why am I not surprised the GOP base say they believe antisemitism is literally impossible?
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:36 PM
Why am I not surprised the GOP base say they believe antisemitism is literally impossible?
Calling someone a Jew with a negative tone can be seen as antisemitic. Slowly hacking their head off with a sword while yelling “God is good” in Arabic can be seen as antisemitic as well. One is more likely to occur in America, and one is more likely to occur in the stan’s and the Gaza Strip
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 03:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QNq8bAL.png
Horza
07-08-2021, 03:38 PM
Calling someone a Jew with a negative tone can be seen as antisemitic. Slowly hacking their head off with a sword while yelling “God is good” in Arabic can be seen as antisemitic as well. One is more likely to occur in America, and one is more likely to occur in the stan’s and the Gaza Strip
I see you've gone back to incoherently flinging shit at the wall.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:48 PM
I see you've gone back to incoherently flinging shit at the wall.
You’re right. It takes a big person to admit when they are wrong. Antisemitism, even violent antisemitism, can and does happen in developed countries as well
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/joe-borgen-jewish-man-attacked-in-times-square-says-amount-of-hatred-is-mind-boggling/ar-AAKfqmp
“23-year-old Waseem Awawdeh of Brooklyn, was charged with assault as a hate crime, gang assault, menacing, aggravated harassment as a hate crime and criminal possession of a weapon”
Sounds like one of those white supremacist types. Hey I wonder how Waseem Awawdeh feels about LGBT too? Lol
starkind
07-08-2021, 03:51 PM
The really big irony is that the poor, homeless, disenfranchised, marginal, old, sick, weak, cowardly, criminal even (vigilantes would just execute u for stealing bread). Oppressed. "Underprivileged" are the same exact people or persons who benefit the most from police lol.
Trust me, at my prime, in the military back in the day with 40k in my account, police were like, not the guys I needed to run to for help.
Honestly America always has been a lil bit fashy and we just got a bunch of lowlifes dipping their feets in the fashy kiddy pool and knee-jerk libs with no clue what it is actually like to physically have someone stronger than u immune to prosecution lean their knee in on ur neck to extort weed and hooker money, let alone just bust a cap in ur friend to grab their purse.
Horza
07-08-2021, 03:51 PM
Sounds like one of those white supremacist types
Accidental self-own.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 03:59 PM
The really big irony is that the poor, homeless, disenfranchised, marginal, old, sick, weak, cowardly, criminal even (vigilantes would just execute u for stealing bread). Oppressed. "Underprivileged" are the same exact people or persons who benefit the most from police lol.
Trust me, at my prime, in the military back in the day with 40k in my account, police were like, not the guys I needed to run to for help.
Honestly America always has been a lil bit fashy and we just got a bunch of lowlifes dipping their feets in the fashy kiddy pool and knee-jerk libs with no clue what it is actually like to physically have someone stronger than u immune to prosecution lean their knee in on ur neck to extort weed and hooker money, let alone just bust a cap in ur friend to grab their purse.
Cops are not allowed to just steal your possessions for themselves, per se. The only shady thing that DOES happen with cops is civil asset forfeiture, where you have to prove a large sum of money you have is yours and not drug money, and even if you do, they can sometimes still take a cut. This goes towards their budget, not to their own personal pockets, but is theft nevertheless
starkind
07-08-2021, 04:04 PM
Cops are not allowed to just steal your possessions for themselves, per se. The only shady thing that DOES happen with cops is civil asset forfeiture, where you have to prove a large sum of money you have is yours and not drug money, and even if you do, they can sometimes still take a cut. This goes towards their budget, not to their own personal pockets, but is theft nevertheless
Correct.
I wasn't accusing cops of being thiefy. Civil asset forfeiture rly only effects rich ppl who actually have property tho. So not really a problem for the people upset cops have the authority and power to help protect them from psychotic knife wielding scumbags (such as myself, I've been in that category).
I would rather be dead from a jumpy rooky or angry lazy old mean guy not wanting to risk another 20 stitches or maybe lucky mortal slash than have someone else hurt from me going rabid and feral.
But most cops don't suck that bad, and we can improve that without destroying civil society. Or making cops suffer.
unsunghero
07-08-2021, 04:25 PM
Correct.
I wasn't accusing cops of being thiefy. Civil asset forfeiture rly only effects rich ppl who actually have property tho. So not really a problem for the people upset cops have the authority and power to help protect them from psychotic knife wielding scumbags (such as myself, I've been in that category).
I would rather be dead from a jumpy rooky or angry lazy old mean guy not wanting to risk another 20 stitches or maybe lucky mortal slash than have someone else hurt from me going rabid and feral.
But most cops don't suck that bad, and we can improve that without destroying civil society. Or making cops suffer.
Ya, I appreciate someone with a reasonable perspective. There are around 80 million police interactions occurring in the USA every year, and sometimes this figure includes many interactions occurring with the same career criminals committing the same crimes, antagonizing police as they get arrested, over and over, and not being assaulted or killed in response. I guarantee none of the people critical to police here would be able to handle people calling them the worst names they can think of, spitting in their faces, trying to hit and bite them, and keep a clear head in the process. But most cops do just that
And when reform comes, it’ll be the women that suffer, sadly. Female cops need to use choke holds and deadly force more often than men because they are more likely to be overpowered by their male suspects. And removing their ability to use chokeholds or deadly force means more dead female cops. And trying to replace cops with social workers, most of which are diminutive-sized women, means more assaulted social workers
As cop hatred from liberal programming continues, more and more cops will retire early, more and more people won’t want to become cops, which will result in police departments having to use even LOOSER standards for hiring resulting in even worse people becoming cops. And as more quit or retire, the cities become increasingly more crime ridden and unsafe. So then everyone suffers. It’s happening in many big cities and predominately black areas already
starkind
07-08-2021, 04:35 PM
Ya, I appreciate someone with a reasonable perspective. There are around 80 million police interactions occurring in the USA every year, and sometimes this figure includes many interactions occurring with the same career criminals committing the same crimes, antagonizing police as they get arrested, over and over, and not being assaulted or killed in response. I guarantee none of the people critical to police here would be able to handle people calling them the worst names they can think of, spitting in their faces, trying to hit and bite them, and keep a clear head in the process. But most cops do just that
And when reform comes, it’ll be the women that suffer, sadly. Female cops need to use choke holds and deadly force more often than men because they are more likely to be overpowered by their male suspects. And removing their ability to use chokeholds or deadly force means more dead female cops. And trying to replace cops with social workers, most of which are diminutive-sized women, means more assaulted social workers
As cop hatred from liberal programming continues, more and more cops will retire early, more and more people won’t want to become cops, which will result in police departments having to use even LOOSER standards for hiring resulting in even worse people becoming cops. And as more quit or retire, the cities become increasingly more crime ridden and unsafe. So then everyone suffers. It’s happening in many big cities and predominately black areas already
China wins and gets its excuse for a UN backed invasion to save America from itself and Russia helps.
Fascism is well and truly implemented and if we don't rat out our neighbors or work for Samsung for pennies and state benefits our 2cnd tier "city ordinance officers" beat us relentlessly to find out who our friends are so they can ship everyone to mandatory state rehabilitation and training camps.
Thats the end result of rich Americans lacking integrity and poor Americans deciding policy through popular opinion so that the rich can stay in power just a decade longer.
We are so fucked.
Sorry.
Gatordash
07-08-2021, 05:01 PM
China wins and gets its excuse for a UN backed invasion to save America from itself and Russia helps.
Fascism is well and truly implemented and if we don't rat out our neighbors or work for Samsung for pennies and state benefits our 2cnd tier "city ordinance officers" beat us relentlessly to find out who our friends are so they can ship everyone to mandatory state rehabilitation and training camps.
Thats the end result of rich Americans lacking integrity and poor Americans deciding policy through popular opinion so that the rich can stay in power just a decade longer.
We are so fucked.
Sorry.The 'slippery slope' argument sounds so ridiculous but then we all just lived through coronavirus and watched people stand in line for 6 hours to buy a gun, buy all hand sanitizing products in the state of Tennessee, and stock up on years worth of toilet paper. So I dunno anymore maybe its not so ridiculous.
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 05:12 PM
The 'slippery slope' argument sounds so ridiculous but then we all just lived through coronavirus and watched people stand in line for 6 hours to buy a gun, buy all hand sanitizing products in the state of Tennessee, and stock up on years worth of toilet paper. So I dunno anymore maybe its not so ridiculous.
https://i.imgur.com/hPJNbtZ.png
Horza
07-08-2021, 05:18 PM
The 'slippery slope' argument sounds so ridiculous but
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 05:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9wlJitZ.jpg
Gatordash
07-08-2021, 05:26 PM
I don't get the white rage thing :confused:
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 05:36 PM
I don't get the white rage thing :confused:
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Horza
07-08-2021, 05:43 PM
I don't get the white rage thing :confused:
It's a boomer thing.
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 06:00 PM
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Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 06:00 PM
It's a boomer thing.
tiktok teens like Horza work for CCP.
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 06:08 PM
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starkind
07-08-2021, 06:12 PM
Columbia lady hands down unless the ghost busters r in the statue of liberty.
starkind
07-08-2021, 06:15 PM
Blake heading for another b& (no it wasn't me)
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 06:33 PM
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Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 06:49 PM
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Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 07:13 PM
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Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 07:18 PM
Live depiction:
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Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 07:43 PM
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Gatordash
07-08-2021, 08:05 PM
our twitter timelines are very different
Horza
07-08-2021, 08:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Y9PTJPM.png
Nobody tell him about how Trump is a pedophile rapist.
Sonderbeast
07-08-2021, 08:42 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand dearailed.
lmao
Also: after reading Starkind's responses I am 82% sure he's an AI algorithm still compiling data.
Gatordash
07-08-2021, 09:05 PM
I just don't see how you are going to do any better than the current system of using body-cameras. Unless you start paying a lot more money to attract smarter people to the job, using body-cameras is the best way to hold them accountable.
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 10:07 PM
Nobody tell him about how Trump is a pedophile rapist.
https://i.imgur.com/E77jtuo.png
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 10:09 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand dearailed.
lmao
Also: after reading Starkind's responses I am 82% sure he's an AI algorithm still compiling data.
https://i.imgur.com/rMJgfQc.png
Pulgasari
07-08-2021, 10:25 PM
Aaaaaaaaaand dearailed.
Well your initial premise was that blacks are in ways similar to retardeds, I'd call the conversation an improvement.
Mblake1981
07-08-2021, 10:27 PM
A Strange Game (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3321230&postcount=8)
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1411389842861273094
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Sonderbeast
07-08-2021, 10:45 PM
Well your initial premise was that blacks are in ways similar to retardeds, I'd call the conversation an improvement.
Your reading comprehension needs a revamp. I did not liken, rather contrasted calling out the fact that cops treat mentally ill the same as AA's, but there was accountability only because he was white.
Jibartik
07-08-2021, 10:56 PM
no education for teachers
no education for authority
no education for politics
no education for jouranlists
lol toiletdrain.jpg
Jibartik
07-08-2021, 11:00 PM
Columbia lady hands down unless the ghost busters r in the statue of liberty.
lol
I still believe the best method is to require some form of malpractice insurance. Claims go up = your rates go up. Too many claims and your coverage is declined and you seek employment elsewhere. Self-regulating systems ftw.
-Mcoy
Gatordash
07-09-2021, 01:25 AM
Those would make some awkward gecko commercials
Sonderbeast
07-09-2021, 02:28 AM
I still believe the best method is to require some form of malpractice insurance. Claims go up = your rates go up. Too many claims and your coverage is declined and you seek employment elsewhere. Self-regulating systems ftw.
-Mcoy
Yes, this is one of many great ideas, and also allows for settlements to come from the Police themselves, rather than lawsuits being at the expense of taxpayers. Every settlement you see right now between Police and those violated are paid out from whichever jurisdictions' treasury. That's something to be angry about.
Mesocyclone
07-09-2021, 06:19 AM
Defund and boycott Yahoo its a Chinese corporation. Get the governments of the world out of Walstreet, or better yet, vice versa.
They think they're gonna enslave all the poor, but they're wrong. I'm coming back just for that. Yeah, im giving up Heaven to come back to this shithole for that.
When I return It wont be with keyboard warstrokes.
starkind
07-09-2021, 10:28 AM
*man shouts*
More insurance companies are not the fucking answer.
*raises fist in the air*
Jimjam
07-09-2021, 10:39 AM
I still believe the best method is to require some form of malpractice insurance. Claims go up = your rates go up. Too many claims and your coverage is declined and you seek employment elsewhere. Self-regulating systems ftw.
-Mcoy
Sounds great, but honestly the one thing worse than having government involved in shit is having insurance companies involved in shit.
Pulgasari
07-09-2021, 10:58 AM
Seattle OPA recommends firing 2 cops for standing on the capitol lawn, the hivemind reacts:
They should be facing capital punishment, or at least a life sentence. Punishments for cops should be double the punishment a civilian would face. We expect them to be held to a higher standard.
starkind
07-09-2021, 11:23 AM
If they were just outside in the crowd. Let em go.
They should only prosecute people that went in, attacked cops, broke things, or endangered lives.
Jibartik
07-09-2021, 11:26 AM
malpractice insurance is why each one of us ot posters haven't gotten like a lobotomy at like 14 years old
its the single greatest thing to happen to every person in the developed world that nobody know about.
Gatordash
07-09-2021, 12:11 PM
malpractice insurance is why each one of us ot posters haven't gotten like a lobotomy at like 14 years old
its the single greatest thing to happen to every person in the developed world that nobody know about.
Depends on the state. Malpractice is kind of weird where health insurance companies require you to carry multi-million dollar policies. But some states like mine put a cap on how much you can actually collect in damages per claim. Nevada is like only $350k.
Pulgasari
07-09-2021, 12:36 PM
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Horza
07-09-2021, 12:48 PM
Irony is dead, Republicans finally killed it.
Jibartik
07-09-2021, 12:52 PM
my fave is when someone is like "police are quitting because the way we're treating them"
lol uh... great?
I'm disappointed nobody threw a shoe at that guy tbh, slackers.
Mblake1981
07-09-2021, 01:47 PM
Irony is dead, Republicans finally killed it.
Your eggroll rations have increased 5%
Topgunben
07-09-2021, 02:28 PM
https://heyjackass.com/
unsunghero
07-09-2021, 02:39 PM
WzlrSWSyJpw
I saw that speech before. Not a bad speech
Have ya seen what liberal anti-cop programming brews? This vid is just a whiny Karen,
and the cop handles her vitriol like a champ. But with other individuals, sometimes the anti-cop narrative inspires them to go out and assassinate some innocent cops. Ya, that shit happens
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_THBjQ-uP9A
starkind
07-09-2021, 02:47 PM
They will only feed u highly processed food devoid of nourishment and high in calories in order to keep you weak and feeble. You will always be hungry and starving and work and beg for more when you can work no more.
Horza
07-09-2021, 03:00 PM
I saw that speech before. Not a bad speech
Have ya seen what liberal anti-cop programming brews? This vid is just a whiny Karen,
and the cop handles her vitriol like a champ. But with other individuals, sometimes the anti-cop narrative inspires them to go out and assassinate some innocent cops. Ya, that shit happens
I'm complaining about your complaining about those other people having the nerve to complain.
unsunghero
07-09-2021, 03:37 PM
I'm complaining about your complaining about those other people having the nerve to complain.
“Complaining”? The lady is basically throwing a tantrum similar to what a 10year old would have. She also makes the comment that the Hispanic cop will “never be white”, implying that white people are somehow something to aspire to be? Not really sure what she is meaning by that, but she sounds like a fake progressive, like most of them are. And she claims to be a teacher. Yikes
Wharfrat
07-09-2021, 06:26 PM
Forming opinions off of film clips is to put it mildly DUMB!
starkind
07-09-2021, 10:02 PM
America as a whole country is suicidally depressed and no amount of Lithium in the water supply will save her.
Wharfrat
07-10-2021, 09:24 PM
LOL, maybe get out and do something other than watch the news ‘cause damn!
Jibartik
07-10-2021, 09:29 PM
America as a whole country is suicidally depressed and no amount of Lithium in the water supply will save her.
I just hope we just get to the fireworks sooner than later seeing as how it's inevitable.
I dont mind being this guy (https://youtu.be/V5HJfLxjcxo?t=3578) tho if we continue to try to drag it out another 20 or 30 years.
Patriam1066
07-10-2021, 09:43 PM
America as a whole country is suicidally depressed and no amount of Lithium in the water supply will save her.
Lol, no it isn’t
Make lemonade, stop sucking on lemons
Horza
07-10-2021, 10:49 PM
LOL, maybe get out and do something other than watch the news ‘cause damn!
What kind of fringe right nut has a Grateful Dead avatar?
Nocht
07-11-2021, 12:56 AM
I just hope we just get to the fireworks sooner than later seeing as how it's inevitable.
I dont mind being this guy (https://youtu.be/V5HJfLxjcxo?t=3578) tho if we continue to try to drag it out another 20 or 30 years.
Dude where do you find these dank revelations videos? Gonna add this to my queue for the weekend.
Jibartik
07-11-2021, 03:06 AM
Dude where do you find these dank revelations videos? Gonna add this to my queue for the weekend.
That one is part of a 5 part (only 4 were made) series called the theif in the night.
It's like the granddaddy of rapture movies and kidn of created the modern american rapture movement. It was played in church basements across the country and got them all hopped up on the end times. Most rapture catchprhases and terms came from it. The Left behind series's name (a popular one with Kirk Kamron) is a reference to the theif in the night movie's theme song "youve been left behind"
The prodigal planet (part 3&4) are the best, with like zombie mutants and a sci fi all terrain transport in the 4th one it's bad fucking ass.
Also the most hilarious part is the action music score is the same as the music from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
It's like, idk if that was a coincidence or if Monty python was directly referencing these movies? No idea. But it's amazing that that movie has the same score as these movies and visa versa.
an awesome 90s one has Negan in it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bsEx_8hEg) and is one of my favorites.
There's another series, from the 90s (https://youtu.be/tPK474AQmD0) thats amazing and has howie mandel and mr t in it's 4th installment. I strong recommend them all lmao
and there is one with david ducovney that is painful to watch but holy shit is it one of a kind.
The history channel made a good 2 part like, blare witch type movie found footage rapture movie (https://youtu.be/Gr8c0EEG7pc) that I really like. Like the theif i the night have amazing modernizations of the terms in revelations, like the 7 headed beast is a coronavirus with 7 spike protines or like interoperating "If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies meaning the military shouting "fire fire fire!" before apaches shoot misses at the Christians (its bad ass).
The best is definitely how it ends though. :o
edit: This is a really really good made for TV all in one one from the 80s (https://youtu.be/LlYC-8Lj1oM)
Jibartik
07-11-2021, 03:47 AM
I want to write the spoilers for the David Duchovny one because I aint ever seen a movie like that before:
It's basically about this woman, who has one night stands and has no direction in her life, a real nihilist, and she is noticing the new world order is taking over (but she is crazy? you never know)
She has a daughter she hardly even takes care of.
Well anyway she finds god and has all these visions of the rapture and so she goes out to the desert to wait for god, like jesus.. and she brings her daughter.
She meets a nice guy (a famous actor but I forget his name, he wasnt famous at the time) and he even kind of falls for her, but she wont leave the like state park she is waiting for jesus to show up at.
She's eating out of garbage cans, basically being a real bad mom, but she's sure jesus will come..
and WELL.....
jesus never comes.. and this bitch gets it in her head that jesus wont come and she has to kill herself and her daughter and well this bitch blows her daughters head off and then shoots her self.
THE END
ok not the end.. what happens next is her daughter gets taken to heaven, but the mom demands to confront god before going into heaven with her. Her daughter is like, "Well if you cant see him then you cant come with us and so goodbye" -- and the mom fades into blackness and lives in eternity of nothingness alone because after all that she still wouldn't accept Jesus.
THE END.
It was the most fucked up movie I ever seen because it wasn't trying to be avant garde or edge lordy or anything it just was.
Here is the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHFR-EhxyQs
Mesocyclone
07-11-2021, 07:32 AM
The sun is going to supernova.
Wharfrat
07-11-2021, 08:13 AM
What kind of fringe right nut has a Grateful Dead avatar?
Lol dude you obviously won't be happy until everyone thinks and acts just like you.
Love how you put people into there own little box's.
starkind
07-11-2021, 09:30 AM
I just hope we just get to the fireworks sooner than later seeing as how it's inevitable.
I dont mind being this guy (https://youtu.be/V5HJfLxjcxo?t=3578) tho if we continue to try to drag it out another 20 or 30 years.
shit i've been telling ppkl this since i was 8 yrs old i didnt need a beerd or suspenders
Horza
07-11-2021, 12:38 PM
Lol dude you obviously won't be happy until everyone thinks and acts just like you.
Love how you put people into there own little box's.
Trump losing badly must have really broken your heart.
Gatordash
07-11-2021, 01:13 PM
Trump losing badly must have really broken your heart.
It’s like you don’t even remember there was a box with a couple million votes for trump that got thrown into a river.
Horza
07-11-2021, 01:20 PM
It’s like you don’t even remember there was a box with a couple million votes for trump that got thrown into a river.
I heard Hugo Chavez actually rigged it for his bro Biden from beyond the grave.
Wharfrat
07-11-2021, 01:40 PM
Trump losing badly must have really broken your heart.
I don’t usually drop a level to idiots like you but you’re a fucking asshole
hobart
07-11-2021, 03:10 PM
It’s like you don’t even remember there was a box with a couple million votes for trump that got thrown into a river.
How big was the box?
I was looking to ship my 3,600 SF home across the country, but I'm having trouble finding a box it will fit in.
Pulgasari
07-11-2021, 03:34 PM
It’s like you don’t even remember there was a box with a couple million votes for trump that got thrown into a river.
No, that's not what happened. What you call fraud is merely an expansion of the franchise.
https://i.imgur.com/gfIMsT5.png
Mblake1981
07-11-2021, 03:43 PM
I don’t usually drop a level to idiots like you but you’re a fucking asshole
He's just mining information for Bytedance.
TheBardo
07-11-2021, 04:39 PM
It’s like you don’t even remember there was a box with a couple million votes for trump that got thrown into a river.
lol this moron doesn't know about the box with 7 million biden votes that was set on fire
Jibartik
07-11-2021, 05:14 PM
shit i've been telling ppkl this since i was 8 yrs old i didnt need a beerd or suspenders
I just mean if we keep pushing the start date back I’m gonna be as old as this guy instead of the main characters lol
Jibartik
07-11-2021, 05:15 PM
I heard Hugo Chavez actually rigged it for his bro Biden from beyond the grave.
I heard Russia hacked it for trump (from you :o)
Gatordash
07-11-2021, 11:18 PM
lol this moron doesn't know about the box with 7 million biden votes that was set on fire
I'm seeing a lot of fake news in these replies. Trump votes getting thrown out came right from the top. Not these, 'twitter journalist' left wing media bias fake news stories. Disgusting. (https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/about-those-ballots-trump-said-were-found-river-n1241851)
hobart
07-11-2021, 11:58 PM
ITrump votes getting thrown out came right from the top.
President Biden is saying Trump votes got thrown out?
TheBardo
07-12-2021, 12:22 AM
I'm seeing a lot of fake news in these replies. Trump votes getting thrown out came right from the top. Not these, 'twitter journalist' left wing media bias fake news stories. Disgusting. (https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/about-those-ballots-trump-said-were-found-river-n1241851)
Haaaaahahahaa
Gatordash
07-12-2021, 01:19 AM
Haaaaahahahaa
(⊙_⊙)
15248
Horza
07-12-2021, 02:02 AM
'twitter journalist' left wing media bias fake news stories.
https://i.imgur.com/MrW5mUX.gif
hobart
07-12-2021, 09:48 AM
(⊙_⊙)
15248
Looks like these seven million ballots were recovered then. I'm sure there was a petition filed with the court to force the secretary of state to count them. All is well, then.
Thanks for reporting the good news.
Toxigen
07-12-2021, 12:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xmqhlD2.jpg
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